# Wall of Meat > Democratic leaders and street protesters prepare to challenge the inauguration while the intelligence community faces internal fractures over the controversial Steele dossier. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 896 - **Published:** 2017-01-19 - **Length:** 3h 6m - **Topics:** [Inauguration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inauguration.md), [Chelsea Manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-manning.md), Wall of Meat, Sesame Credit, [Steele Dossier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steele-dossier.md), [Davos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/davos.md), [NATO](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat ## About this episode Representative John Lewis and Maxine Waters lead a Democratic charge to delegitimize the incoming Trump administration, citing alleged Russian collusion as grounds for impeachment. While Lewis refuses to attend the inauguration, former Black Panther Mason Weaver and comedian Steve Harvey appear at Trump Tower to discuss urban revitalization. This political rift deepens as CNN contributor Mark Lamont Hill labels black figures meeting with the President-elect as mediocre, sparking a debate over representation and policy expertise. Bikers for Trump spokesperson Chris Cox announces a wall of meat to protect attendees from protesters in Washington D.C., where Al Sharpton and organizers of the Women's March prepare for large-scale resistance. Meanwhile, the White House press corps resists a proposed relocation to the Executive Office Building, a move Keith Olbermann compares to the media environment of Vladimir Putin. Amidst these domestic tensions, President Obama commutes the sentence of Chelsea Manning, drawing sharp rebukes from Paul Ryan and Republican leadership who view the move as a threat to national security. Bob Woodward breaks from the intelligence community to label the Steele dossier a garbage document that warrants an apology to the President-elect. In Davos, Jack Ma of Alibaba critiques American economic strategy, arguing that trillions spent on foreign wars should have been invested in domestic infrastructure. The episode concludes with a look at the death of German journalist Udo Ulf Kotte and the rise of social credit systems like Alibaba’s Sesame Credit. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/transcript.md. ### 1. Inauguration Day Expectations and California Weather Updates (0:00–2:22) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 896 from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak reports that the long-standing California drought appears to be ending due to heavy storms, while Curry notes technical delays for the live stream. They anticipate the upcoming presidential inauguration, noting that major events typically coincide with their show days. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [jerry brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-brown.md), [inauguration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inauguration.md), [drought](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drought.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/1.md) ### 2. John Lewis and Maxine Waters Discuss Trump Impeachment (2:23–6:56) Representative Maxine Waters discusses potential grounds for impeaching Donald Trump on MSNBC, citing alleged collusion with Russia. Representative John Lewis labels Trump an illegitimate president, leading to a discussion about his refusal to attend the inauguration. The hosts analyze the rhetoric used by Democratic leadership to challenge the legitimacy of the 2020 election results. Keywords: [john lewis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-lewis.md), [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [selma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selma.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Mason Weaver Criticizes John Lewis and Democratic Party History (6:57–14:04) Former Black Panther Mason Weaver appears on Tucker Carlson Tonight to criticize Representative John Lewis's legacy. Weaver argues that Lewis joined the "oppressors" by aligning with the Democratic Party, which Weaver associates with historical figures like George Wallace and Bull Connor. The discussion focuses on the perceived failure of the Congressional Black Caucus in urban districts. Keywords: mason weaver, [john lewis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-lewis.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [congressional black caucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-black-caucus.md), [george wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-wallace.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Steve Harvey and Ben Carson Meet at Trump Tower (14:04–16:19) Donald Trump meets with comedian Steve Harvey and HUD Secretary nominee Ben Carson to discuss inner-city initiatives. The hosts highlight Harvey's philanthropic work and his personal history of homelessness as qualifications for his involvement. They contrast Harvey's genuine efforts with the political posturing of other activists. Keywords: [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md), [ben carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-carson.md), [trump tower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-tower.md), [hud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hud.md), [philanthropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philanthropy.md), [inner cities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inner-cities.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Mark Lamont Hill Criticizes "Mediocre Negroes" on CNN (16:20–21:29) Professor Mark Lamont Hill sparks controversy on CNN by referring to black figures meeting with Donald Trump, including Steve Harvey and Jim Brown, as "mediocre Negroes." Hill argues that Trump should engage with policy experts rather than celebrities. The hosts critique Hill's comments as condescending and representative of a deep rift within the black community. Keywords: [mark lamont hill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-lamont-hill.md), [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), jim brown, mediocre negroes, [diversity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diversity.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Al Sharpton Leads Pre-Inauguration Protest in Washington (21:30–24:05) Al Sharpton organizes a march in Washington D.C. focusing on four "non-negotiable" issues: voting rights, criminal justice reform, economic justice, and the Affordable Care Act. Despite low turnout in the rain, Sharpton vows to continue the resistance against the Trump administration. The hosts mock the small crowd size and Sharpton's rhetorical style. Keywords: [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [voting rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-rights.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md), [trayvon martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trayvon-martin.md), [j20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/j20.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Women's March Organizers Discuss Intersectional Social Justice (24:06–26:36) A co-organizer of the Women's March appears on MSNBC to outline the movement's demands, including protections for Planned Parenthood and the undocumented. The segment highlights the "intersectional" nature of the protest scheduled for January 21st. The hosts question the cohesion of a movement attempting to represent every progressive issue simultaneously. Keywords: [women's march](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/women-s-march.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md), [planned parenthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/planned-parenthood.md), [intersectionality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intersectionality.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/7.md) ### 8. The View Hosts and Pussy Hats Trend (26:37–29:18) The hosts of The View wear pink "pussy hats" in solidarity with the upcoming Women's March. This leads to a brief discussion about the symbolism of the headwear and the various parties and protests planned in Washington D.C. for the weekend. Keywords: [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [pussy hats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pussy-hats.md), [women's march](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/women-s-march.md), pink hats, [fashion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Bikers for Trump Form a "Wall of Meat" (29:18–32:35) Bikers for Trump spokesperson Chris Cox describes plans to form a "wall of meat" to protect inauguration attendees from protesters. Speaking on Fox News, Cox emphasizes the group's commitment to veterans and legal immigration. The group intends to hold a rally at John Marshall Park following the official ceremony. Keywords: bikers for trump, [inauguration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inauguration.md), [veterans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans.md), [security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security.md), wall of meat [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Tucker Carlson Debunks Paid Anti-Trump Protester Ads (32:48–34:08) Tucker Carlson interviews a man who posted fraudulent ads offering to pay people to protest against Donald Trump. The hosts note the humor in the segment, specifically Carlson's confusion between Chelsea Manning and Peyton Manning. They credit Carlson's booking team for finding unique guests. Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [chelsea manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-manning.md), [peyton manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peyton-manning.md), [protesters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protesters.md), [ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ads.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/10.md) ### 11. White House Press Corps Relocation Controversy (34:09–39:22) The Trump transition team proposes moving the White House press briefing room to the Executive Office Building to accommodate more journalists. President Obama and Press Secretary Josh Earnest defend the current arrangement as a vital symbol of transparency. The hosts suggest the press corps' resistance to moving may be related to existing surveillance infrastructure in the current room. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [josh earnest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/josh-earnest.md), [white house press corps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-press-corps.md), [reince priebus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reince-priebus.md), [fourth estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-estate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Keith Olbermann and The Resistance Movement (39:22–44:36) Keith Olbermann releases a video for "The Resistance" criticizing the plan to move the press corps, comparing the proposed larger venue to Vladimir Putin's press conferences. Project Veritas released footage of activists planning to disrupt the inauguration with butyric acid. The hosts mock Olbermann's dated cultural references and the "Resistance" meme. Keywords: [keith olbermann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-olbermann.md), [the resistance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-resistance.md), [project veritas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-veritas.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [white house press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-press.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Jake Tapper Recalls Obama Administration's War on Fox News (44:37–46:18) CNN's Jake Tapper appears on Late Night with Seth Meyers to discuss the Obama administration's past attempts to delegitimize Fox News. Tapper recalls defending colleagues like Major Garrett and Bret Baier when the White House tried to exclude the network. The hosts use this to highlight the hypocrisy in current media complaints about Trump's treatment of the press. Keywords: [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [seth meyers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-meyers.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [major garrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/major-garrett.md), [bret baier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bret-baier.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/13.md) ### 14. CNN Explores Presidential Succession Scenarios for Inauguration (46:18–51:05) CNN broadcasts a segment detailing the line of presidential succession in the event of a catastrophic attack during the inauguration. The report notes that because Trump's cabinet will not yet be confirmed, an Obama appointee like Tom Shannon could briefly become president. The hosts criticize the segment as fear-mongering and a "native ad" for the ABC show Designated Survivor. Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), designated survivor, [presidential succession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-succession.md), tom shannon, [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [inauguration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inauguration.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Chelsea Manning Sentence Commutation and WikiLeaks Reaction (51:06–1:01:09) President Obama commutes the 35-year sentence of Chelsea Manning, leading to a debate over whistleblowing and national security. While Republican leaders like Paul Ryan call the move outrageous, others point out that no evidence of deaths resulted from the leaks. The hosts discuss the irony of Democrats celebrating Manning while simultaneously attacking WikiLeaks for the DNC email releases. Keywords: [chelsea manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-manning.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), [paul ryan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-ryan.md), [espionage act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage-act.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Edward Snowden and the Russia Connection (1:01:10–1:07:10) NBC News links the Chelsea Manning commutation to Edward Snowden, suggesting Manning's harsh sentence was intended as a message to Snowden. Vladimir Putin defends Donald Trump against "salacious" intelligence allegations, while CIA Director John Brennan criticizes Trump's comparison of intelligence agencies to Nazi Germany. The hosts analyze the ongoing tension between Trump and the intelligence community. Keywords: [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Bob Woodward Criticizes Intelligence Community's "Garbage" Dossier (1:07:11–1:11:34) Journalist Bob Woodward labels the Steele dossier a "garbage document" and argues the intelligence community should apologize to Donald Trump for including it in a briefing. The hosts discuss Woodward's status as a potential CIA-linked figure and what his defense of Trump signifies about internal shifts within the agency. Keywords: [bob woodward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-woodward.md), [watergate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/watergate.md), [trump dossier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-dossier.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Executive Producer Credits and No Agenda Meetups (1:11:35–1:23:04) The hosts thank executive producers Bruce Wilkie, Johnny of the Swamp, and Ron Nooren for their "value for value" donations. They discuss the pronunciation of Puyallup, Washington, and mention upcoming meetups in Washington D.C. for the inauguration. Curry also notes his upcoming appearance on Alex Jones' show. Keywords: bruce wilkie, johnny of the swamp, ron nooren, [puyallup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puyallup.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/18.md) ### 19. On The Media Hosts Express "Suicidal Despondency" (1:23:04–1:28:04) Bob Garfield of NPR’s On The Media describes feeling "suicidal despondency" over the political climate. The show features author Rebecca Solnit reading from her book Hope in the Dark to provide encouragement to liberal listeners. The hosts contrast this "depressing" outlook with their own excitement for the upcoming news cycle. Keywords: [on the media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/on-the-media.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [brooke gladstone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brooke-gladstone.md), [bob garfield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-garfield.md), rebecca solnit, hope in the dark [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Politico Journalists Discuss Trump's Legitimacy and Twitter (1:28:05–1:30:33) Politico publishes a piece featuring several journalists who claim Donald Trump has a "deep fear" of being an illegitimate president. The hosts argue that the real grievance among these journalists is Trump's use of Twitter to bypass traditional media gatekeepers. Keywords: [politico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/politico.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [legitimacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legitimacy.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [media strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-strategy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Matt Taibbi on Two-Tier Media and Russian Influence (1:30:35–1:34:56) Rolling Stone journalist Matt Taibbi discusses the "two-tier" media system and the lack of concrete evidence linking Donald Trump to Russian hacking. Taibbi notes that while there is evidence of Russian meddling, there is no proof of Trump's direct involvement. The hosts critique Taibbi's perspective while acknowledging his past work on financial crimes. Keywords: [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md), [rolling stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolling-stone.md), mark ames, [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), [dnc hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc-hacking.md), [legacy media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legacy-media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Media's Role in Disqualifying Candidates and Class Divisions (1:35:10–1:41:41) The hosts and Matt Taibbi discuss how the media historically "disqualified" candidates like Howard Dean and Gary Hart for minor gaffes or scandals. Taibbi reflects on the class divisions between "sanctimoniously smug" coastal elites and "flyover America." The hosts note that No Agenda listeners were not surprised by the Trump phenomenon because they track these cultural shifts. Keywords: [howard dean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-dean.md), gary hart, [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md), class division, flyover america, [john oliver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-oliver.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Joe Biden and John Kerry at World Economic Forum in Davos (1:41:42–1:49:08) At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Vice President Joe Biden warns of threats to the "liberal international order" posed by Russia and Vladimir Putin. Secretary of State John Kerry suggests the Trump administration may only last two years. The hosts interpret these comments as part of a broader "regime change" or impeachment plan against Trump. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [davos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/davos.md), [world economic forum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-economic-forum.md), liberal international order, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Donald Trump's Criticism of NATO and the EU (1:49:09–1:53:55) Donald Trump labels NATO "obsolete" and criticizes Angela Merkel's migrant policy, causing concern among European allies. Defense Secretary nominee James Mattis offers a more traditional defense of the alliance. The hosts discuss Trump's view of the EU as a trade competitor and the historical purpose of NATO in managing European internal conflicts. Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [james mattis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-mattis.md), [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [nuclear arms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-arms.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Diplomatic Fallout Over Trump's NATO Comments (1:53:57–2:02:52) Former Ambassador Nicholas Burns criticizes Trump's denigration of NATO, citing the alliance's support after 9/11. The hosts discuss the strategic importance of Kaliningrad and the ongoing conflict in Afghanistan. They suggest that NATO serves as a "wet blanket" to prevent European nations from forming independent militaries. Keywords: [nicholas burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicholas-burns.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [kaliningrad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaliningrad.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/25.md) ### 26. RT Blocked on Facebook During Obama Press Conference (2:02:53–2:05:57) Facebook's algorithms block RT (Russia Today) from posting content after a copyright claim by Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty during a live stream of Obama's final press conference. RT claims they had legitimate rights via the Associated Press. The hosts describe this as a "propaganda war" between state-funded media organizations. Keywords: [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [radio free europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio-free-europe.md), [bbg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbg.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [associated press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associated-press.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Jack Ma of Alibaba Discusses US Economic Strategy at Davos (2:05:58–2:15:51) Alibaba founder Jack Ma recounts his meeting with Donald Trump and offers a critique of American economic strategy. Ma argues that the U.S. wasted $14 trillion on wars instead of investing in domestic infrastructure and its own people. He suggests that globalization's profits were concentrated on Wall Street rather than helping the "middle-west" of the United States. Keywords: [jack ma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-ma.md), [alibaba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alibaba.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [davos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/davos.md), [globalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalization.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Alibaba's Sesame Credit and the Future of Social Ratings (2:15:54–2:20:03) Jack Ma describes Alibaba's "Sesame Credit" system, which uses AI and consumer data to provide instant micro-loans. The system has evolved into a social rating used for dating, renting cars, and housing. The hosts warn that this type of social media-based credit scoring is a dangerous trend likely to expand globally. Keywords: [alibaba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alibaba.md), sesame credit, [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [credit rating](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-rating.md), [social credit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-credit.md), [data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Theresa May's Brexit Speech and Scottish Opposition (2:20:04–2:29:49) British Prime Minister Theresa May announces a "clean break" from the EU single market, prompting a sharp response from EU negotiators in Brussels. Angus Robertson of the Scottish National Party challenges May in Parliament, arguing that Brexit will harm Scotland's economy. The hosts discuss the bureaucratic nature of the EU and the challenges of the two-year negotiation timeline. Keywords: [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [scotland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scotland.md), [angus robertson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angus-robertson.md), [single market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/single-market.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Fox News Misreports Clinton Global Initiative Closure (2:29:49–2:32:37) Fox News reports on the closure of the Clinton Global Initiative, but the hosts clarify that the network is conflating it with the broader Clinton Foundation. They also discuss rumors regarding former Clinton Foundation CEO Eric Braverman potentially moving to a non-profit role at Google under Eric Schmidt. Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [clinton global initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-global-initiative.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [eric braverman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-braverman.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Donor Thank-Yous and "Magical" Mushroom Gift (2:32:38–2:41:16) The hosts read a long list of donations and thank-yous, discussing the transition from Venmo to "Pop Money" for transfers. Adam Curry reveals he received a box from a producer containing "magical" mushrooms and flight calculators. They emphasize the "value for value" model and encourage listeners to continue submitting artwork and clips. 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Keywords: udo ulf kotte, [bnd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bnd.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [heart failure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-failure.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/896-wall-of-meat/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Tech News: Apple Sandboxing and Audio Software Updates (2:48:22–2:58:37) Adam Curry details technical struggles with Apple's undocumented "sandboxing" of the HTTP 0.9 protocol, which broke his Shoutcast streaming setup. He also criticizes automatic updates in Rogue Amoeba's Loopback software. The segment includes a story about valley pioneer George Morrow and a critique of Apple's current direction regarding professional users. 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