# Perchlorate and Cut Fiber

> A vacation in Portugal reveals a crumbling real estate market while rocket fuel contaminants and sabotaged fiber optic lines signal a deepening domestic infrastructure crisis.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 88
- **Published:** 2009-04-12
- **Length:** 1h 30m
- **Topics:** Perchlorate, Fiber Sabotage, Billy Bob Thornton, [Smart Grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [Goldman Sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), SDR Currency
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber

## About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from a temporary studio in the Algarve region of Portugal, where a collapsing British tourism market and a failed real estate Ponzi scheme have left luxury villas vacant. The hosts analyze the technical hurdles of international streaming while investigating the economic fallout of the pound's weakness against the euro. Local high-end restaurants like L'Orangerie are adapting to shifting demographics as the traditional UK-driven rental market faces a massive correction.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has issued a startling alert regarding perchlorate, a rocket fuel component found in every brand of bovine-based baby formula tested across 35 states. Meanwhile, coordinated sabotage of fiber optic cables in California and South Carolina suggests a calculated test of the national telecommunications grid. The hosts connect these infrastructure vulnerabilities to the push for a government-mandated smart grid and the digital television transition. Additional reports cover Goldman Sachs pursuing domain name litigation, the TSA detecting glycerin on traveler laptops, and the Associated Press threatening legal action against bloggers as the newspaper industry faces total insolvency.

Billy Bob Thornton causes a media firestorm in Canada after a hostile CBC interview with Gian Gomeshi leads to his band, The Boxmasters, being booed off stage in Toronto. John C. Dvorak reminisces about the lost work ethic of the American paper route while Adam Curry explores the occult rumors of a Black Mass at the Strasbourg Cathedral following the G20 summit. The episode features a breakdown of Chinese lucky numbers from listener donations and a proposal for a ten-million-dollar exit strategy to end the program permanently.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, Portugal Vacation Broadcast (0:00–3:16)

Adam Curry broadcasts from a temporary studio in the Algarve region of Portugal while on vacation, noting the technical limitations of his mobile setup. John C. Dvorak joins from the Pacific Northwest, and the two exchange Easter greetings. Curry describes the geography of the southern Portuguese coast near Spain and the challenges of maintaining a wireless connection in a large rented house.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [algarve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algarve.md), [portugal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portugal.md), [easter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/easter.md), [crackpot command center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crackpot-command-center.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Easter Traditions, Leg of Lamb, Egg Symbolism (3:17–5:09)

The hosts discuss their respective Easter dinner plans, including leg of lamb and baby back ribs. A brief inquiry into the origins of Easter eggs and the Easter bunny reveals a lack of specific historical knowledge between the two. They conclude that the holiday is primarily celebrated through traditional family meals.

Keywords: [easter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/easter.md), leg of lamb, baby back ribs, [easter bunny](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/easter-bunny.md), religious traditions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/2.md)

### 3. L'Orangerie Restaurant, Vegetarianism, British Tourism in Portugal (5:10–7:00)

Adam Curry recounts dining at L'Orangerie, a high-end restaurant in Portugal, and expresses surprise at their dedicated vegetarian menu for his daughter's boyfriend. The discussion shifts to the impact of the economic downturn on local tourism, noting that British occupancy is down 30-40% due to the pound's weakness against the euro.

Keywords: l'orangerie, [portugal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portugal.md), [vegetarianism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vegetarianism.md), [british tourists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-tourists.md), [euro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euro.md), [currency exchange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency-exchange.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/3.md)

### 4. UK Real Estate Ponzi Scheme, Portuguese Rental Market (7:00–11:07)

A discussion of the British property boom reveals how television programs encouraged UK citizens to invest in overseas real estate, which Curry characterizes as a Ponzi scheme. Following the market crash, many owners are forced to rent out their luxury villas through professional agencies to cover mortgage demands. Curry details the amenities of his six-bedroom rental, which costs 1,500 pounds per week.

Keywords: [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [ponzi scheme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ponzi-scheme.md), mortgage contracts, [portugal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portugal.md), villa rentals

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/4.md)

### 5. CDC Perchlorate Alert, Baby Formula Contamination (11:08–13:36)

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) issued a report finding perchlorate, a component of rocket fuel and fireworks, in every brand of bovine-based baby formula tested. The chemical is also prevalent in the drinking water of at least 35 U.S. states. The hosts question how such a contaminant enters the food supply and whether it is being used as a protein additive.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), perchlorate, [baby formula](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baby-formula.md), rocket fuel, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/5.md)

### 6. NoAgenda.mobi Mobile Web App Launch (13:36–14:22)

A new mobile-optimized website, noagenda.mobi, has launched to provide users with easy access to podcast episodes, show notes, and social media feeds. The site is described as an "iPhone app for the rest of us" and serves as a precursor to a larger planned web presence.

Keywords: noagenda.mobi, [iphone app](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-app.md), mobile web, [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md), twitter integration

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Listener Feedback, Mimi Dvorak, Producer Etiquette (14:22–16:41)

Listeners sent critical feedback regarding the hosts' treatment of John Dvorak's wife, Mimi, in a previous episode, with some accusing Adam Curry of being disrespectful. Dvorak defends his lack of reaction by explaining he could not hear Curry's comments through his headphones at the time. The segment also addresses complaints about the length of donation requests, comparing them to a PBS fund drive.

Keywords: [mimi dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi-dvorak.md), [listener mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-mail.md), pbs fund drive, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [podcast production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Billy Bob Thornton, Canadian Interview Controversy (16:42–22:21)

Actor Billy Bob Thornton sparked a media firestorm in Canada after a hostile interview with CBC host Gian Gomeshi, where he took offense at being identified as an actor rather than a musician. Thornton compared Canadian audiences to "mashed potatoes with no gravy," leading to boos at his subsequent concert in Toronto. His band, The Boxmasters, subsequently canceled the remainder of their Canadian tour, officially citing the flu.

Keywords: billy bob thornton, [cbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbc.md), gian gomeshi, the boxmasters, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), mashed potatoes

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/8.md)

### 9. David Hasselhoff, Living with the Hoff Reality Show (22:23–28:54)

The hosts discuss the UK reality show "Living with the Hoff," which follows a British DJ staying with David Hasselhoff in Bel Air. They analyze Hasselhoff's eccentric lifestyle, his obsession with his past musical success in Europe, and his role as a judge on "America's Got Talent." The conversation explores the phenomenon of successful actors desperately seeking validation as rock stars.

Keywords: [david hasselhoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-hasselhoff.md), the hoff, living with the hoff, [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), music career

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Actor-Musician Transitions, Decline of Traditional Media (28:55–31:49)

The discussion moves from Billy Bob Thornton to other actors who pursue music, such as Keanu Reeves and Bruce Willis, and singers like Madonna who struggle in film. This leads to a broader critique of the entertainment industry, with claims that the traditional film, newspaper, and television models are collapsing due to unwatchable commercial loads and financial insolvency.

Keywords: [madonna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madonna.md), [keanu reeves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keanu-reeves.md), [bruce willis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bruce-willis.md), [film industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/film-industry.md), [television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Newspaper Industry Insolvency, Associated Press vs. Bloggers (31:49–35:21)

Major newspapers like the Boston Globe and San Francisco Chronicle are reportedly losing a million dollars per week. The head of the Associated Press has threatened legal action against bloggers who republish content, while the hosts argue that the old top-heavy media model is obsolete. They discuss the lack of a clear future revenue model for investigative journalism.

Keywords: [boston globe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston-globe.md), [san francisco chronicle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco-chronicle.md), [associated press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associated-press.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [bloggers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloggers.md), [revenue models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/revenue-models.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Disintermediation, Napster Legacy, Internet Traffic (35:21–37:16)

Reflecting on the term "disintermediation" from the early web era, the hosts discuss how digital distribution has permanently altered media industries. They recall early experiments with streaming audio on 28.8k modems and note that file sharing continues to dominate global internet traffic despite years of industry opposition.

Keywords: disintermediation, web 1.0, [napster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/napster.md), [file sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/file-sharing.md), streaming audio

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Future of Journalism, Foundation Funding, Labor Efficiency (37:16–40:49)

The hosts speculate that investigative reporting may move toward a foundation-funded model, though they warn this could lead to conflicts of interest. They compare the inefficiency of unionized newspaper reporters to the high output of modern bloggers. Adam Curry highlights how Twitter is being used as a new form of RSS for real-time headline distribution.

Keywords: [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [foundations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foundations.md), [investigative reporting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investigative-reporting.md), [labor unions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-unions.md), [rss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Canadian Airspace Intrusion, Automated News Transcoding (40:49–43:11)

A Canadian man stole a Cessna 172 and flew it into U.S. airspace, reportedly hoping to be shot down by fighter jets. Adam Curry explains his technical process for scraping headlines from Twitter news accounts and using an API to automatically transcode them into MP3 audio for his stream.

Keywords: cessna 172, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), twitter api, [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), kosher coke

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Goldman Sachs, Domain Name Litigation (43:14–44:09)

Goldman Sachs is reportedly pursuing legal action against the owner of the "GoldmanSucks.com" domain. The hosts discuss the Lanham Act and the concept of consumer confusion in trademark law, drawing parallels to Adam Curry's past legal battle with MTV and Viacom over domain rights.

Keywords: [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), goldman sucks, [lanham act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lanham-act.md), trademark law, [viacom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viacom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/15.md)

### 16. TSA Checkpoints, Glycerin Detection, Laptop Hygiene (44:10–46:54)

A traveler at a TSA checkpoint triggered explosives detectors because of glycerin residue on his laptop. The hosts joke about the potential origins of the glycerin, suggesting it could come from excessive use of hand lotion. The incident highlights the sensitivity of the swabs used by airport security to detect bomb components.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), glycerin, [explosives detection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/explosives-detection.md), hand lotion, [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/16.md)

### 17. WWII Bicycle Restitution, Nijkerk Germany (46:55–47:41)

A German soldier who stole a bicycle in the Dutch city of Nijkerk during the closing days of World War II has reportedly returned to pay for the crime 64 years later. The hosts jokingly remark that this act of restitution means the war is finally over.

Keywords: [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), nijkerk, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), bicycle theft, restitution

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Fiber Optic Cable Sabotage, Cyber 9/11 Testing (47:43–52:32)

Coordinated cuts to fiber optic cables in California's South Bay and South Carolina have disrupted telecommunications for thousands of people. John Dvorak posits that these incidents are not random vandalism but a "test of the grid" by unknown actors preparing for a major cyber-terror event. They note the extreme vulnerability of the physical internet backbone, which is often clearly marked with flags and paint.

Keywords: [fiber optic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiber-optic.md), [sabotage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sabotage.md), south bay, [south carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-carolina.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Smart Grid, Digital TV Transition, Cyber Terror (52:33–53:58)

The hosts suggest that the threat of cyber-terrorism will be used as a pretext to funnel money into a "smart grid" and mandate specialized routers for home users. They compare this potential move to the recent digital television transition, viewing it as a way for the government to increase control over private communications.

Keywords: [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [digital tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-tv.md), [routers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/routers.md), cyber terror, [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Fascism Definitions, Michelle Bachmann, Mandatory Youth Camps (53:58–58:07)

The discussion touches on the definition of fascism as the merger of state and corporate power, citing the government's intervention in General Motors. Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann has raised alarms about legislation proposing mandatory service camps for youth. The hosts argue that Bachmann is facing unfair media characterization and sexual discrimination for her stance.

Keywords: [fascism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fascism.md), [corporatism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corporatism.md), [michelle bachmann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-bachmann.md), youth camps, sexual discrimination, [national debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-debt.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Paper Route Nostalgia, Youth Work Ethic (58:07–1:03:42)

John Dvorak reminisces about his childhood paper route, describing the challenges of rural delivery and the high-pressure sales tactics used by professional supervisors to increase subscriptions. He laments the loss of such entry-level vocational experiences for modern children, who he claims lack basic work skills and financial literacy.

Keywords: paper route, door-to-door sales, work experience, rural routes, collection books

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/21.md)

### 22. G20 Protests, Strasbourg Black Mass Rumors (1:03:43–1:06:52)

Following the G20 summit, rumors circulated in Russian news sources regarding a "Black Mass" attended by world leaders at the Strasbourg Cathedral. The hosts discuss the occult symbolism associated with the global elite and the trend of wealthy individuals building underground bunkers in places like Paraguay to prepare for a global "reset."

Keywords: [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [strasbourg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strasbourg.md), black mass, [pope benedict xvi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pope-benedict-xvi.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [bunkers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bunkers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Webcam Stripper Taxes, CCTV Surveillance Art (1:06:52–1:10:11)

Swedish tax authorities are targeting webcam strippers to recover millions in lost revenue. Meanwhile, in the UK, artists and activists are using Freedom of Information requests to obtain government CCTV footage of themselves performing plays and music videos in public spaces. This serves as a form of protest against the pervasive surveillance network in the British Isles.

Keywords: webcam stripping, [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), [cctv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cctv.md), [freedom of information](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-of-information.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Facial Recognition, Forensic Science Myths, Public Conditioning (1:10:13–1:13:27)

The hosts critique the portrayal of forensic technology on television shows like CSI, noting that real-world facial recognition and DNA testing are far less efficient than depicted. They argue that these "eye-roller" tropes, such as instant DNA results and magical photo enhancement, are designed to condition the public into believing the state's surveillance capabilities are infallible.

Keywords: [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), [csi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csi.md), [dna testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-testing.md), photo enhancement, surveillance conditioning

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Chinese Lucky Numbers, Donation Symbolism (1:13:28–1:16:52)

A listener named Che sent a series of donations using the numbers 88.88 and 1.68. John Dvorak explains the significance of these numbers in Chinese culture, where "8" represents wealth and "168" translates to "I want to get money." They discuss the high value placed on these numbers in Hong Kong, including million-dollar license plates.

Keywords: chinese lucky numbers, [8888](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/8888.md), 168, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [hong kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md), [money](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Exit Strategy, Ten Million Dollar Goal (1:16:52–1:18:44)

The hosts propose a new "reverse" funding model where they set a goal of 10 million dollars, at which point they will permanently end the show. They suggest creating a specific donation category for listeners who want to pay to get them off the air, arguing that this provides a clear destiny for the program.

Keywords: [donation model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-model.md), [exit strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exit-strategy.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md), [no agenda library](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-library.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Moody's Bond Downgrade, George Soros, Open Society Institute (1:18:45–1:23:32)

Moody's has placed a negative outlook on all U.S. municipal bonds, signaling a broad economic downgrade. The hosts discuss George Soros's history, including his childhood in Hungary and his influence through the Open Society Institute. They compare Soros's currency speculation to Bill Gates's past decision to move assets out of the U.S. dollar.

Keywords: [moody's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moody-s.md), [municipal bonds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/municipal-bonds.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [open society institute](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-society-institute.md), [hungary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hungary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Esperanto, Metric System, International Standardization (1:23:32–1:27:38)

The conversation shifts to failed attempts at global standardization, such as the constructed language Esperanto and the U.S. resistance to the metric system. They discuss the "perils" of A4 paper dimensions and the legal battles in the UK over shopkeepers refusing to abandon imperial measurements for metric ones.

Keywords: esperanto, klingon, [metric system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metric-system.md), [a4 paper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/a4-paper.md), imperial measurements

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Special Drawing Rights, Universal Currency, Outro (1:27:38–1:29:47)

The hosts conclude with a discussion on the "Special Drawing Rights" (SDR) as a potential global spreadsheet currency that could replace the dollar and pound. They warn that the Lisbon Treaty provides the legal framework for a surveillance-heavy "police state" to enforce such changes. The show ends with a reminder of the next broadcast on Thursday.

Keywords: [sdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sdr.md), [special drawing rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-drawing-rights.md), [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), universal currency, [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/88-perchlorate-and-cut-fiber/chapter/29.md)

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