# Quantum of Evidence

> A massive Saudi financial threat looms over the JASTA veto while domestic scandals involving Anthony Weiner and Yahoo data breaches reshape the political and corporate landscape.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 863
- **Published:** 2016-09-25
- **Length:** 3h 8m
- **Topics:** JASTA veto, Saudi assets, Yahoo breach, [Global Citizen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-citizen.md), [Gary Johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md), FBI journalists, [Space debris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-debris.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence

## About this episode

President Obama’s veto of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA) has sparked a geopolitical standoff as Saudi Arabia threatens to liquidate $750 billion in U.S. assets. While the bill would allow 9/11 victims' families to sue the kingdom, the administration warns of destabilizing global bond markets and undermining sovereign immunity. This tension escalates as the House considers moving commercial space traffic oversight to the FAA while China’s unmanned space station drifts toward an uncontrolled re-entry.

Domestic controversies intensify with the investigation of former Congressman Anthony Weiner for illicit messaging and the subsequent separation from Huma Abedin. In the intelligence sector, CIA Director John Brennan and global counterparts report that Edward Snowden’s disclosures caused a permanent breakdown in trust between tech firms and security agencies. Meanwhile, the FBI’s legal right to impersonate journalists during undercover operations has been confirmed by the DOJ Inspector General, echoing the controversial tactics of Operation Mockingbird. In the corporate world, Yahoo faces scrutiny for a delayed disclosure of a 500-million account data breach that may jeopardize its acquisition by Verizon.

Medical speculation surrounds Hillary Clinton as Dr. Drew Pinsky and other physicians analyze her recent pneumonia diagnosis for signs of underlying neurological conditions. Libertarian Gary Johnson draws criticism for erratic interview behavior and dismissive comments regarding climate change and the sun’s eventual expansion. This episode features a deep dive into the Global Citizen festival’s financial structure and a knighting ceremony for the show’s executive producers.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/transcript.md.

### 1. Confucius Say Jokes, MSNBC Global Citizen Concert Coverage (0:00–1:47)

The hosts open the program with a discussion about a vintage Confucius joke book purchased in Chinatown and the potential for reprinting public domain jokes. They transition into media observations, noting that while CNN and Fox focused on the Charlotte shooting, MSNBC broadcast the Global Citizen concert from Central Park.

Keywords: [confucius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/confucius.md), [chinatown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chinatown.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [global citizen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-citizen.md), [central park](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-park.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Global Citizen Festival, Non-Profit Financial Analysis (1:48–5:00)

An analysis of the Global Citizen festival in Central Park reveals skepticism regarding the organization's mission and financial structure. Reviewing 990 tax forms, the hosts note the project spends approximately $10.5 million annually against $9 million in revenue, primarily to produce a concert featuring high-paid acts like Rihanna and Metallica.

Keywords: [global citizen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-citizen.md), [rihanna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rihanna.md), [metallica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metallica.md), [990 forms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/990-forms.md), [non-profit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-profit.md), [central park](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-park.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Global Citizen Board, The Pledge of Dependence (5:01–7:15)

The leadership of Global Citizen is identified as a group of New York elites, including representatives from the Gates Foundation, Forbes, and TED. The hosts criticize the organization's "Pledge of Dependence," characterizing it as an anti-American globalist agenda promoting a borderless world.

Keywords: [arianna huffington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arianna-huffington.md), [chris anderson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-anderson.md), [gates foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gates-foundation.md), [gucci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gucci.md), [illuminati](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illuminati.md), pledge of dependence

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Bert Koenders, Dutch Foreign Minister Toilet Initiative (7:16–12:50)

Dutch Foreign Minister Bert Koenders appeared at the Global Citizen festival to promote a $300 million commitment to global sanitation. Koenders challenged the audience to choose between mobile phones and clean toilets, promising that the Netherlands would provide 50 million people with access to clean toilets by 2030.

Keywords: bert koenders, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [toilets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toilets.md), [sanitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanitation.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Global Citizen Success Metrics, Elite Virtue Signaling (12:51–16:44)

The Global Citizen festival utilized a "lives affected" tote board as a success metric, claiming over 132 million people were impacted. The hosts argue the event serves as a way for elites to enjoy private-style concerts by Rihanna while framing the expense as humanitarian work.

Keywords: [neil patrick harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-patrick-harris.md), [rihanna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rihanna.md), [metrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metrics.md), significant digits, [hamptons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamptons.md), [clinton global initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-global-initiative.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Chinese Space Station Debris, FAA Space Traffic Control (16:44–19:06)

China's unmanned space station is reportedly out of control and expected to crash to Earth next year, with debris potentially landing anywhere. This coincides with a U.S. House bill seeking to move commercial space traffic oversight from the Defense Department to the FAA for increased transparency.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [space station](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-station.md), [debris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debris.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [department of defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-defense.md), [satellites](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellites.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/6.md)

### 7. U-2 Spy Plane Crash, Beale Air Force Base (19:08–21:04)

A U-2 military spy plane crashed in Sutter County, California, shortly after takeoff from Beale Air Force Base during a training mission. One pilot was killed and another injured following an ejection; the hosts express surprise that the Cold War-era aircraft is still in active service.

Keywords: u-2, beale air force base, sutter county, spy plane, ejection, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Syria Convoy Bombing, Lindsey Graham and General Dunford (21:05–25:43)

Senator Lindsey Graham and General Dunford discussed the bombing of a UN humanitarian convoy in Syria, attributing the attack to Russia. The conversation highlights the tension between diplomatic efforts led by Secretary John Kerry and the lack of a clear "Plan B" for the Syrian conflict.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [general dunford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-dunford.md), [ashton carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ashton-carter.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Syria Ceasefire, Intelligence Sharing with Russia (25:44–28:11)

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov emphasized the need to separate moderate opposition from Nusra forces to maintain the Syrian ceasefire. Despite public documents requiring intelligence exchange, General Dunford testified that sharing intelligence with Russia remains a bad idea.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [sergey lavrov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sergey-lavrov.md), nusra, [joint chiefs of staff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joint-chiefs-of-staff.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Edward Snowden, International Intelligence Trust Issues (28:11–31:42)

CIA Director John Brennan and international intelligence counterparts discussed the lasting damage caused by Edward Snowden's disclosures. The panel noted a significant breakdown in trust between intelligence agencies and the global technology community, complicating national security efforts.

Keywords: [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md), technology community

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/10.md)

### 11. DCLeaks, Michelle Obama Passport Leak (31:44–33:11)

The website DCLeaks published hacked emails from a Democratic operative, revealing the schedules of Michelle Obama, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton. The leak included a purported image of the First Lady's passport, highlighting the continued use of private Gmail accounts for sensitive political information.

Keywords: [dcleaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dcleaks.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [gmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmail.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Email Encryption, GPG and Government Transparency (33:12–38:01)

The hosts question why high-level government officials do not use standard GPG encryption for their communications. They speculate that the government avoids encryption to prevent the public from adopting tools that the FBI cannot easily bypass via backdoors.

Keywords: [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), gpg, [pgp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pgp.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [backdoors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backdoors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Hillary Clinton Health Speculation, Syphilis Theory (38:03–40:31)

A viral YouTube theory suggests Hillary Clinton may be suffering from late-stage syphilis, citing her collapse at the 9/11 memorial and historical comparisons to Beethoven. The hosts also discuss leaked campaign emails that meticulously count the number of steps Clinton must walk at events.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [syphilis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syphilis.md), [beethoven](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beethoven.md), [9/11 memorial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-memorial.md), [medical records](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-records.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Dr. Drew Pinsky, Hillary Clinton Pneumonia Analysis (40:32–44:30)

Dr. Drew Pinsky discussed Hillary Clinton's medical records with a pulmonologist, suggesting her "right middle lobe" pneumonia could be a sign of aspiration caused by an underlying neurological condition. The doctors hinted at more serious possibilities, such as lung cancer, that they were hesitant to name publicly.

Keywords: [dr. drew pinsky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-drew-pinsky.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [pneumonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pneumonia.md), [aspiration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspiration.md), [neurological](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neurological.md), [lung cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lung-cancer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/14.md)

### 15. JASTA Veto, Saudi Arabia 9/11 Bill (44:31–48:43)

President Obama vetoed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which would have allowed 9/11 victims' families to sue Saudi Arabia. While the bill passed both houses of Congress, Obama argued it undermines U.S. interests, despite the release of the "28 pages" linking Saudi individuals to the hijackers.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [jasta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jasta.md), 9/11 families, [veto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veto.md), [28 pages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/28-pages.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Saudi Asset Dump Threat, Global Bond Market (48:43–51:09)

Saudi Arabia has threatened to sell $750 billion in U.S. assets if the JASTA bill becomes law, potentially destabilizing the global bond market. Simultaneously, the Saudis offered to cut oil production only if Iran agrees to freeze its own output.

Keywords: [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [bond market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bond-market.md), [oil production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-production.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), us assets

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Yahoo Data Breach, Verizon Acquisition (51:12–52:53)

Yahoo disclosed a massive data breach affecting 500 million accounts, blaming a "state-sponsored actor." The hosts suggest the timing of the disclosure, occurring over a year after the hack, may impact Verizon's pending acquisition of the company.

Keywords: [yahoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yahoo.md), [verizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verizon.md), [data breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-breach.md), [marissa mayer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marissa-mayer.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), state-sponsored

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Prison Profiteering, JPAY and Virtual Visitation (52:54–54:33)

California Governor Jerry Brown is considering a bill to prevent prisons from replacing in-person visits with paid video conferencing. The hosts criticize companies like JPAY for charging inmates high fees for emails, music, and virtual visits.

Keywords: [jerry brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-brown.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), jpay, [prisons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prisons.md), video conferencing, [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Anthony Weiner Investigation, Huma Abedin Separation (54:33–55:59)

Authorities are investigating former Congressman Anthony Weiner over allegations of sending sexually explicit messages to an underage girl. This follows the announcement that Huma Abedin is leaving Weiner after his repeated involvement in sexting scandals.

Keywords: [anthony weiner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-weiner.md), [huma abedin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huma-abedin.md), [sexting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexting.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Gary Johnson, Sun Explosion and Climate Change (55:59–1:00:18)

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson made headlines for an unusual interview performance where he stuck his tongue out and later argued that climate change is inconsequential because the sun will eventually encompass the Earth in billions of years.

Keywords: [gary johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [sun](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sun.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [libertarian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libertarian.md), [coal plants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coal-plants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Marijuana Potency, Gary Johnson's Public Persona (1:00:19–1:03:02)

The hosts discuss the increased potency of modern marijuana and speculate that Gary Johnson's erratic behavior may be due to frequent use. One host shares a personal history of daily use while contrasting it with Johnson's "stoned" public demeanor.

Keywords: [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [gary johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [thc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thc.md), [sobriety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sobriety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Kratom DEA Ban, Herbal Medicine Controversy (1:03:07–1:09:38)

The DEA has temporarily halted its plan to classify Kratom as a Schedule I substance following public outcry and a White House petition. Listeners share testimonials about using the herbal leaf to manage chronic pain and successfully detox from pharmaceutical opioids.

Keywords: [kratom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kratom.md), [dea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dea.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [opioids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opioids.md), [chronic pain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chronic-pain.md), [withdrawal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/withdrawal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/22.md)

### 23. No Agenda Artwork, Show Format and Guests (1:09:39–1:14:18)

The hosts review the weekly artwork and address listener suggestions regarding the show's format. They firmly reject the "freemium" model and the idea of having guests, maintaining that the current structure is essential to the show's identity.

Keywords: [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [freemium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freemium.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), guests

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Executive Producer Donations, Donald Trump Resemblance (1:14:19–1:17:01)

A series of high-value donations are read, including one from a producer who noted a physical resemblance between a young Adam Curry and Donald Trump. The hosts grant "karma" to various donors for their financial support during a period of lower contributions.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/24.md)

### 25. No Agenda Facebag, Social Media Migration (1:17:04–1:20:49)

The No Agenda community has migrated to a new "closed" Facebook group, dubbed the "Facebag," after issues with the previous group's administration and privacy settings. The new group gained 700 members within 24 hours.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [facebag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebag.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Listener De-douching, Donation Ceremonies (1:20:50–1:26:24)

The hosts perform "de-douching" ceremonies for long-time listeners who have finally donated. They fulfill various jingle requests, including themes related to jobs, the national anthem, and ridiculing Bono.

Keywords: [d-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/d-douching.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [bono](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bono.md), [jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs.md), [national anthem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-anthem.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Travis T. Hipp Tribute, Birthday Knighting (1:26:24–1:32:51)

A donation is made in honor of the late Travis T. Hipp, a legendary media deconstructor from the 1970s. Additionally, a woman surprises her husband with a donation for his birthday, recalling the time he spent $1,000 to be knighted in person.

Keywords: travis t. hipp, [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Killing Ed Documentary, Fethullah Gulen (1:32:52–1:36:17)

One of the hosts attended a screening of "Killing Ed," a documentary by Mark Hall about the Fethullah Gulen movement and its influence on U.S. charter schools. The film is described as a frightening look at the intersection of education and foreign political movements.

Keywords: [killing ed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/killing-ed.md), [mark hall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-hall.md), [fethullah gulen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fethullah-gulen.md), [charter schools](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charter-schools.md), [documentary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/documentary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/28.md)

### 29. CNN Condescension, Trans-Pacific Pipeline Error (1:36:17–1:39:27)

The hosts mock a CNN analyst who mistakenly referred to the TPP as the "Trans-Pacific Pipeline" while condescendingly discussing John Kasich and Donald Trump's stance on the birther issue.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [john kasich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kasich.md), [tpp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tpp.md), [birtherism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birtherism.md), [pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipeline.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Jeffrey Toobin, Law and Order Code Words (1:39:31–1:41:17)

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin is criticized for claiming that Donald Trump's use of the phrase "law and order" is a racist code word intended to appeal to a base that opposes African American political power.

Keywords: [jeffrey toobin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-toobin.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [law and order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-and-order.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [code words](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/code-words.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Charlotte Shooting Video, Police Body Cam Footage (1:41:18–1:46:59)

The release of police footage from the Keith Lamont Scott shooting in Charlotte is analyzed. The hosts discuss the presence of a handgun and a "marijuana cigarette" (blunt) at the scene, while a former LAPD sergeant questions the officers' escalation of the situation.

Keywords: [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), keith lamont scott, [body cam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-cam.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), blunt, [police shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-shooting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Institutional Racism, Black Police Leadership (1:47:00–1:51:31)

Talk show host Larry Elder argues against the narrative of institutional racism in the Charlotte shooting, pointing out that the police chief, the shooting officer, and the mayor are all Black. The hosts discuss how the media often ignores these facts to maintain a specific racial narrative.

Keywords: [larry elder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-elder.md), [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [institutional racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/institutional-racism.md), [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Presidential Debate Preparation, Scott Adams Endorsement (1:51:31–1:54:17)

Ahead of the first presidential debate, reports surface regarding stage adjustments for Hillary Clinton's height. Meanwhile, Dilbert creator Scott Adams announced his endorsement of Donald Trump, citing Clinton's proposal to raise the estate tax to 65%.

Keywords: [presidential debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-debate.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [estate tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/estate-tax.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Estate Tax, Hearst Family Trust (1:54:18–1:58:20)

The history and purpose of the estate tax are discussed, with the hosts noting how wealthy families like the Hearsts use elaborate trusts to bypass the tax and maintain control over their wealth across generations.

Keywords: [estate tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/estate-tax.md), [death tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-tax.md), patty hearst, [william randolph hearst](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-randolph-hearst.md), family trust

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/34.md)

### 35. EU Army Proposal, France and Germany (1:58:20–2:05:45)

France and Germany are pushing for the creation of a joint European military force, despite opposition from the UK and NATO. Critics argue that an EU army would duplicate NATO's efforts and undermine the national sovereignty of member states.

Keywords: [eu army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eu-army.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/35.md)

### 36. ICANN Transition, Internet Governance (2:05:45–2:07:21)

The impending handover of ICANN oversight from the U.S. Commerce Department to a global multi-stakeholder model is discussed. The hosts warn that European nations are already planning to bypass U.S. influence, potentially leading to a fragmented "worldwide mess" for internet governance.

Keywords: [icann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icann.md), internet governance, [commerce department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commerce-department.md), [europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/europe.md), worldwide mess

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/36.md)

### 37. FBI Impersonation of Journalists, Operation Mockingbird (2:07:21–2:12:39)

A Department of Justice Inspector General report confirmed that FBI agents may legally impersonate journalists during undercover investigations. This practice, reminiscent of Operation Mockingbird, is criticized for blurring the lines between law enforcement and the free press.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [associated press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associated-press.md), [seattle times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle-times.md), [operation mockingbird](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/operation-mockingbird.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Digital Advertising Fraud, Trustworthy Accountability Group (2:12:40–2:17:33)

Facebook recently admitted to inflating video viewing metrics by up to 80%. Dame Francine Hardaway explains the "Trustworthy Accountability Group" (TAG) scam, where companies must pay $20,000 for a certificate to prove they are not distributing malware or committing ad fraud.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [digital advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-advertising.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), [malware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malware.md), tag, [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Ad Agency Kickbacks, Media Buying Corruption (2:17:33–2:20:39)

The Association of National Advertisers discovered that major ad agencies are buying large blocks of media inventory and reselling them to clients at a hidden markup. This practice replaces the traditional 15% commission model with a less transparent and potentially corrupt system.

Keywords: advertising agencies, media buying, [kickbacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kickbacks.md), association of national advertisers, [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Apple Brandy, Small Batch Spirits (2:20:44–2:23:44)

A producer from Canada sent the hosts a bottle of "Cravato," a small-batch apple brandy made in the style of Croatian Calvados. One host describes the high alcohol content and the physical sensation of sampling the potent spirit.

Keywords: apple brandy, cravato, [croatia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/croatia.md), [calvados](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calvados.md), [small batch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-batch.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Boob Donations, Ham Radio Operators (2:23:45–2:29:42)

The hosts read a long list of "boob" donations (amounts ending in .08 or .80) and acknowledge the high number of amateur radio operators (hams) in the audience. They grant various forms of "karma" to donors from across the U.S. and Europe.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [boobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boobs.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), 808, [5555](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/5555.md), [amateur radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amateur-radio.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Final Donor Credits, PC Magazine Italy (2:29:43–2:35:35)

The final list of $50 donors is read, leading to an anecdote about the Italian version of PC Magazine. One host recalls how Microsoft successfully pressured the Italian editors to stop running his column during the Berlusconi era.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md), [berlusconi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berlusconi.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Knighting Ceremony, Hookers and Blow (2:35:37–2:37:31)

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for two producers who donated $1,000 or more. The new knights are granted access to the "No Agenda Roundtable" and its traditional menu of "Hookers and Blow," "White Widow," and "Mutton and Mead."

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knight.md), [dame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dame.md), [white widow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-widow.md), [sake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sake.md), [mutton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mutton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Lieutenant Colonel McGinnis, Demonic Forces in Washington (2:37:32–2:41:46)

Lieutenant Colonel McGinnis appeared on the Jim Bakker Show to claim that the Obama administration is persecuting Christians within the Pentagon. McGinnis further alleged that "demonic forces" and witches advise senior leadership in Washington D.C.

Keywords: jim bakker, [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [christianity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christianity.md), [witches](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/witches.md), demonic forces, [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Over-Socialization, The Unabomber Manifesto (2:41:47–2:48:21)

The hosts read an excerpt on "over-socialization" from the Unabomber Manifesto, written by Ted Kaczynski. The text argues that highly socialized individuals suffer from guilt and low self-esteem because they cannot live up to society's demanding moral codes, a theory the hosts apply to modern social media behavior.

Keywords: [over-socialization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/over-socialization.md), [ted kaczynski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-kaczynski.md), [unabomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unabomber.md), [stanford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stanford.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Rodrigo Duterte, Ferdinand Marcos Hero's Burial (2:48:22–2:50:08)

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte faced protests over his proposal to give former dictator Ferdinand Marcos a hero's burial. Duterte also made headlines for telling the European Union "F you" after they condemned his violent war on drugs.

Keywords: [rodrigo duterte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rodrigo-duterte.md), ferdinand marcos, [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [martial law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martial-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Mexican Border Smuggling, Fast and Furious (2:50:10–2:52:05)

A report from the border suggests that drug cartels like El Chapo's operate on "smuggling seasons" when enforcement is known to be low. The "Fast and Furious" gun-running scandal reportedly disrupted these seasons, causing significant strife among the cartels.

Keywords: [el chapo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/el-chapo.md), [fast and furious](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-and-furious.md), [border](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border.md), [smuggling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smuggling.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [gun running](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-running.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Hillary Clinton Snapchat, Disappearing Messages (2:52:07–2:55:16)

The hosts deconstruct a clip of Hillary Clinton announcing her Snapchat account. They question why the audience cheered for the fact that her messages "disappear all by themselves," suggesting it reflects a desire to avoid the scrutiny seen in her email scandal.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [snapchat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snapchat.md), disappearing messages, [email scandal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/email-scandal.md), [audience](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audience.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Infused Vodka Lesson, Kirkland Grey Goose (2:55:17–3:01:05)

A detailed lesson on infusing vodka is provided, with a recommendation to use Costco's Kirkland French vodka, which is widely believed to be Grey Goose. The host shares experiences infusing spirits with serrano peppers, bison grass, and even cannabis branches.

Keywords: [vodka](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vodka.md), grey goose, [kirkland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kirkland.md), [costco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco.md), infusion, serrano peppers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Bono and U2, Casino Vibe Promotion (3:01:05–3:03:50)

Bono is criticized for calling Donald Trump "dangerous" and warning against turning America into a "casino" while simultaneously using a slot-machine-themed stage show for U2's Las Vegas tour. The hosts label the move as a tasteless promotional stunt.

Keywords: [bono](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bono.md), [u2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/u2.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [casino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/casino.md), [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Outro, End of Show Mix (3:03:51–3:08:32)

The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, promising post-debate analysis for the next episode. The show concludes with a produced audio mix featuring donor shout-outs, the national anthem, and various show catchphrases.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), post-debate, [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md), mix

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/863-quantum-of-evidence/chapter/51.md)

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