# Fat Chicks from Toronto > Global leaders signal a massive shift in financial sovereignty as new legislation threatens internet privacy and private military contractors rebrand their presence in Iraq. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 86 - **Published:** 2009-04-05 - **Length:** 1h 29m - **Topics:** [G20 Summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20-summit.md), IMF SDRs, [Cybersecurity Act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity-act.md), [Triple Canopy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/triple-canopy.md), Wine Terrorism, [Nuclear Fusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-fusion.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto ## About this episode British Prime Minister Gordon Brown declared the emergence of a new world order at the G20 summit, signaling a massive shift in global governance. The summit resulted in an $850 billion commitment to the International Monetary Fund and the potential elevation of Special Drawing Rights as a global reserve currency. This financial restructuring coincides with the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which grants the President an internet kill switch and allows the Secretary of Commerce to bypass existing privacy laws. Financial expert Bill Black details how elite fraud and Ponzi-like schemes within corporate boardrooms triggered the current economic meltdown. While the Obama administration faces scrutiny over Larry Summers receiving $2.7 million in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs, private security firm Triple Canopy prepares to replace Blackwater in Iraq. Meanwhile, the FBI conducted an unwarranted raid on a Dallas data center, seizing equipment from Core IP Networks and disrupting dozens of businesses. In the technology sector, Research In Motion stock gains are linked to corporate layoffs as fired employees purchase personal BlackBerrys to replace company-issued devices. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate Dvorak’s birthday while debunking social media age statistics that suggest he is over 100 years old. The duo explores the rise of wine terrorism in France and the curious case of Japanese Patriot missiles allegedly being non-functional props. The episode concludes with a look at the National Ignition Facility's attempt to trigger nuclear fusion using 192 giant lasers. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/transcript.md. ### 1. John C. Dvorak Birthday, Social Media Age Statistics (0:02–3:52) Adam Curry celebrates John C. Dvorak's birthday, noting that Skype and Plaxo report his age as 102 or 107. Dvorak explains that users often select the earliest possible birth year on social media platforms like Facebook and MySpace to protect privacy or bypass age restrictions. This behavior leads to skewed statistical analysis where the average user age appears much older than reality. Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), plaxo, [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [livejournal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/livejournal.md), age demographics [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Anti-Aging Secrets, Healthy Diet and Exercise (3:52–6:18) A discussion regarding youthful appearances focuses on a specific diet involving high consumption of salmon and home-cooked meals. The conversation highlights the psychological impact of milestone birthdays, such as turning 60, and the preference for avoiding large celebrations. Regular exercise and maintaining a partnership with a younger person are cited as contributing factors to staying fit. Keywords: [salmon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salmon.md), [exercise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exercise.md), healthy eating, [aging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aging.md), [skincare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skincare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Amsterdam Travel, General Aviation and Private Flying (6:19–8:00) A flight to Amsterdam is described, emphasizing the benefits of flying during foggy conditions when commercial traffic is grounded. The narrative covers interactions with helpful air traffic controllers who provide direct vectors and high-altitude crossings. The trip included business meetings and social gatherings on a roof terrace in the heart of the city. Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [general aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-aviation.md), [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), flight vectors [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/3.md) ### 4. No Agenda Drop Website, Internet Trolls and Viral Content (8:01–11:17) The hosts discuss the increasing popularity of the No Agenda Drop website, which has recently attracted active trolls. Unlike traditional forums, the site functions as a chronological repository for links, videos, and images, where trolls contribute humorous Photoshopped content. This activity is viewed as a sign of the show's growing cultural influence and self-propagating viral nature. Keywords: noagendadrop.com, [internet trolls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-trolls.md), [viral content](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-content.md), photoshopping, community engagement [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/4.md) ### 5. B-52s Love Shack, San Diego Strip Club Anecdote (11:18–14:02) A memory triggered by the B-52s song "Love Shack" involves a visit to a San Diego strip club called Dirty Dance. The anecdote describes a specific performance synchronized to the music, illustrating how certain songs become the "soundtrack of your life." This leads to a discussion about the Dvorak Interlude music stream and the importance of sharing backstories for selected tracks. Keywords: b-52s, love shack, [san diego](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-diego.md), dirty dance, music history [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/5.md) ### 6. No Agenda Stream, Twitter Request App Development (14:02–16:20) Technical updates on the No Agenda music stream include the development of a Twitter-based request application. The developer discusses the challenges of rewriting ID3 tags, managing request files, and the potential scalability issues of running the service on a local Macintosh. Concerns are raised about the system's reliability during upcoming travel to San Francisco. Keywords: twitter app, id3 tags, scalability, [macintosh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/macintosh.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Podcast Schedule, Upcoming Vacation Plans (16:21–17:15) The hosts coordinate their recording schedule for the upcoming week due to conflicting travel plans. One host is departing for Washington on Wednesday, while the other begins a vacation on Thursday. They weigh the options of recording early versus managing equipment while traveling. Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel.md), [scheduling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scheduling.md), [washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington.md), [vacation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vacation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/7.md) ### 8. G20 Summit, Gordon Brown New World Order Speech (17:16–19:49) British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's closing remarks at the G20 summit are analyzed, specifically his declaration that a "new world order is emerging." The summit resulted in agreements for global fiscal stimulus, interest rate cuts, and increased resources for international institutions. The hosts highlight the use of the phrase "green recovery" as a significant rhetorical shift. Keywords: [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [gordon brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gordon-brown.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md), [fiscal stimulus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiscal-stimulus.md), global recovery [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/8.md) ### 9. International Monetary Fund, Special Drawing Rights and Global Banking (19:50–23:18) The G20's commitment to provide $850 billion through the IMF and multilateral development banks is examined via an official PDF declaration. The discussion focuses on the creation of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) and the potential for a new global reserve currency favored by China. The hosts characterize these international financial institutions as a complex "shell game" managed by a global elite. Keywords: [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [special drawing rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-drawing-rights.md), asian development bank, [reserve currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reserve-currency.md), group of 20 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Bill Black, The Best Way to Rob a Bank (23:20–26:46) Financial expert Bill Black appears on the Bill Moyers Journal to discuss his book, "The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One." Black argues that the current economic meltdown is driven by elite fraud, deceit, and the betrayal of trust. He describes a "Ponzi-like" system where CEOs make bad loans to generate short-term bonuses, inevitably leading to long-term disaster. Keywords: bill black, [bill moyers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-moyers.md), [bank fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-fraud.md), savings and loan crisis, [ponzi scheme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ponzi-scheme.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Corporate Boardroom Culture, Executive Bonuses and Incentives (26:46–29:22) A debate ensues regarding whether corporate fraud is a calculated scheme or a result of an insular culture. One host argues that executives are often divorced from reality due to their high-status environments, leading them to believe massive bonuses are justified despite public outcry. The behavior is described as a "fractal" of a larger systemic game played by those in power. Keywords: [corporate culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corporate-culture.md), [executive compensation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-compensation.md), boardrooms, [incentives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/incentives.md), [social isolation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-isolation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Audio Engineering, Skype Connection and Sound Quality (29:22–30:21) The hosts discuss the technical audio quality of the podcast, specifically the equalization and the impact of the Skype connection. One host suggests adding more low-end frequencies to the mix to improve the vocal presence. They compare the sound quality of different microphones, including the Heil PR40, and the use of headphones during recording. Keywords: [audio quality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-quality.md), equalization, [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), reverb, [heil pr40](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heil-pr40.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Triple Canopy, Blackwater Replacement in Iraq (30:23–32:09) Triple Canopy, a Chicago-based security firm, is set to take over the State Department's security contract in Iraq from Xe Services (formerly Blackwater). The company's website lists services including homeland defense, crisis management, and security analysis. The hosts mock the corporate branding and the transition of private military contractors into "consultant" roles. Keywords: [triple canopy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/triple-canopy.md), [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [xe services](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xe-services.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [private security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-security.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Cybersecurity Act of 2009, Internet Kill Switch Legislation (32:09–35:45) Senators Jay Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe have introduced the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which critics claim grants the President an "internet kill switch." The bill would allow the Secretary of Commerce access to critical network data regardless of existing privacy laws. The hosts call for voters in Maine to remove Senator Snowe from office in response to the legislation. Keywords: [jay rockefeller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-rockefeller.md), [olympia snowe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympia-snowe.md), [cybersecurity act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity-act.md), [internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet.md), [commerce department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commerce-department.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Reusable Grocery Bags, Polypropylene and Eco-Guilt (35:46–38:10) A listener email from a grocery store accountant at Harris Teeter describes the "eco-guilt" associated with reusable polypropylene bags. The writer notes that customers often refuse plastic bags even for raw meat, leading to contamination risks. The email highlights that these 99-cent bags have high profit margins for stores but degrade quickly, potentially creating more waste than disposable alternatives. Keywords: harris teeter, reusable bags, polypropylene, [plastic waste](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plastic-waste.md), [grocery stores](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grocery-stores.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/15.md) ### 16. TSA Cash Profiling, Canola Oil and Canadian Health (38:10–41:06) A discussion on TSA profiling mentions a woman denied entry to the U.S. for a lack of cash, with agents suspecting she might be a "mail-order bride." This transitions into a theory regarding physical health trends in Canada. One host posits that the widespread use of canola oil in the Canadian diet has led to visible changes in body composition compared to previous decades. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [canola oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canola-oil.md), [profiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profiling.md), health trends [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/16.md) ### 17. UK Obesity Epidemic, Jamie Oliver and Fast Food (41:07–43:37) The United Kingdom is facing an obesity epidemic attributed to the rise of fast-food chains like McDonald's and Burger King. The hosts discuss the decline of traditional fish and chip shops and the popularity of low-quality frozen foods from budget supermarkets like Iceland. They reference chef Jamie Oliver's failed attempts to reform school lunches due to parental resistance. Keywords: [obesity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obesity.md), [jamie oliver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamie-oliver.md), [fast food](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-food.md), iceland supermarket, [nutrition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nutrition.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/17.md) ### 18. FBI Data Center Raid, Core IP Networks (43:37–47:09) The FBI conducted an unwarranted raid on a Core IP Networks data center in Dallas, Texas, seizing equipment and cutting off service for nearly 50 businesses. The CEO reported that the investigation targeted a former customer, yet all clients lost access to their data. The hosts advise listeners to maintain off-site backups and use external hard drives to protect against government seizures. Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [data center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-center.md), core ip networks, [search warrants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-warrants.md), [data backup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-backup.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/18.md) ### 19. RIM BlackBerry Stock, Corporate Layoffs and Service Contracts (47:09–50:06) Financial analyst Andrew Horowitz suggests that Research In Motion (RIM) stock gains may be artificially inflated by corporate layoffs. When employees are fired, they lose their company-issued BlackBerrys but often purchase new ones to maintain their mobile habits, while the original corporate service contracts remain active. This creates a temporary surge in hardware sales and subscriber numbers. Keywords: research in motion, [blackberry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackberry.md), [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md), [layoffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layoffs.md), service contracts [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Demi Moore Twitter Suicide Intervention, Hollywood Career Trends (50:07–52:51) Actress Demi Moore reportedly used Twitter to intervene in a follower's suicide attempt, drawing significant media attention. The hosts discuss Moore's public persona and her relationship with Ashton Kutcher, questioning if her social media activity and "childish" vibe are damaging her professional reputation in Hollywood. Keywords: [demi moore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demi-moore.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [ashton kutcher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ashton-kutcher.md), [suicide prevention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-prevention.md), [celebrity culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-culture.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/20.md) ### 21. No Agenda iPhone App, Mobile Features and Pricing (52:53–54:22) The upcoming No Agenda iPhone and iPod Touch application is announced, featuring a live stream player, direct Twitter integration, and podcast download capabilities. The app is expected to retail for 99 cents in the Apple App Store. The hosts view this as a way to centralize the "No Agenda universe" for mobile users. Keywords: [iphone app](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-app.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), mobile application, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/21.md) ### 22. No Agenda Donations, The National Armory Project (54:24–1:00:11) The hosts read a list of donors, noting several contributions of $66.66 and $88.88, reflecting listener interest in numerology. They announce the expansion of the "No Agenda Library" into the "No Agenda Armory," suggesting they may accept hardware and ammunition donations. Plans to add Amazon and other payment services are discussed to provide alternatives to PayPal. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [666](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/666.md), 888, [armory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/armory.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Obama Administration Financial Disclosures, Larry Summers Speaking Fees (1:00:12–1:03:00) Bloomberg reports on the financial disclosures of top Obama administration officials, revealing that Larry Summers earned $2.7 million in speaking fees from major banks like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. Other disclosures include Rahm Emanuel's AIG stock holdings and David Axelrod's multi-million dollar buyouts from public affairs firms. The hosts highlight the perceived conflict of interest between these officials and the industries they regulate. Keywords: [larry summers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-summers.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [valerie jarrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/valerie-jarrett.md), [david axelrod](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-axelrod.md), [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/23.md) ### 24. British Telecom I-Plate, ADSL Speed Optimization (1:03:00–1:04:49) The "I-Plate" is a device recommended by British Telecom to boost ADSL broadband speeds by isolating the "bell wire" in telephone jacks. The device aims to reduce interference and prevent auto-throttling on copper lines. One host expresses skepticism but plans to test the device to improve his home internet connection. Keywords: [adsl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adsl.md), [british telecom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-telecom.md), i-plate, [broadband](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadband.md), bell wire [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Nancy Pelosi Saint Joke, Political Satire (1:04:50–1:07:21) A long-form joke submitted by a listener depicts House Speaker Nancy Pelosi attempting to be declared a "saint" by a Catholic Cardinal. The punchline suggests that while she has many flaws, she appears saintly only when compared to other prominent Democratic senators like Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [catholic church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catholic-church.md), [political humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-humor.md), [ted kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-kennedy.md), [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Marijuana Cancer Research, Industrial Hemp Legalization (1:07:21–1:10:09) New research from Spain indicates that THC may prompt the death of brain cancer cells in mice without affecting healthy cells. Simultaneously, Representatives Ron Paul and Barney Frank have introduced a bill to legalize industrial hemp. The hosts discuss the historical reasons for hemp's prohibition, citing competition with the paper industry and William Randolph Hearst's media campaigns. Keywords: [thc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thc.md), [brain cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-cancer.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [barney frank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barney-frank.md), [industrial hemp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/industrial-hemp.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Carlos Santana Marijuana Support, Spandau Ballet Reunion (1:10:10–1:13:33) Musician Carlos Santana has publicly voiced support for marijuana legalization, which the hosts find unsurprising given his 1960s roots. The conversation shifts to the reunion of the 80s band Spandau Ballet. They reflect on the longevity of certain rock and roll tracks and the "uncool" transition of New Wave bands over the decades. Keywords: carlos santana, [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), spandau ballet, 80s music, [music industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-industry.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Italian Bus Segregation, Queen's Day Party in Amsterdam (1:13:34–1:16:21) Reports from Italy suggest the implementation of separate bus services for residents and immigrants under Silvio Berlusconi's administration. The hosts also discuss an upcoming "Queen's Day" trip to Amsterdam, where one host has secured access to an exclusive party titled "No Sex in the Champagne Room." Keywords: [silvio berlusconi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silvio-berlusconi.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [queens day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queens-day.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/28.md) ### 29. French G20 Protests, Wine Terrorism in France (1:16:22–1:18:49) Violent protests in Strasbourg, France, during the G20 summit resulted in buildings being burned, though the events received limited media coverage compared to London. Additionally, a phenomenon known as "wine terrorism" has emerged, where French growers hijack tankers of cheap Spanish wine and drain them into sewers to protest market competition. Keywords: [strasbourg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strasbourg.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), g20 protests, wine terrorism, trade disputes [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/29.md) ### 30. North Korea Satellite Launch, Japanese Patriot Missiles (1:18:50–1:21:42) Disputes arise over North Korea's claim of a successful satellite launch, with the U.S. Defense Department stating the payload crashed into the ocean. Reports also suggest that some Patriot missiles deployed by Japan were actually non-functional "props" used for display. The hosts plan to investigate the validity of the "prop" missile claims. Keywords: [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [satellite](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellite.md), [patriot missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-missiles.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), [defense department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-department.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/30.md) ### 31. National Ignition Facility, Nuclear Fusion Research (1:21:43–1:24:30) The U.S. National Ignition Facility is using 192 giant lasers to attempt to trigger a nuclear fusion reaction in a hydrogen fuel pellet. Unlike fission, fusion does not produce long-lived radioactive waste but requires extreme heat that is difficult to contain. The hosts criticize the facility's name but acknowledge the potential of fusion as a revolutionary energy source. Keywords: national ignition facility, [nuclear fusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-fusion.md), [lasers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lasers.md), [clean energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clean-energy.md), [physics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/physics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/86-fat-chicks-from-toronto/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Madame Tussauds Wax Museum, Obama and Celebrity Figures (1:24:31–1:27:55) A visit to Madame Tussauds in London reveals changes in how wax figures are constructed and interacted with by the public. Modern figures, such as Barack Obama and Will Smith, feature flexible latex parts like "flappable ears" and are designed for photo opportunities. The hosts discuss the difficulty of creating accurate likenesses in an era of high-definition digital imagery. 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