# 200.8 Re-Redux > A deep dive into the technical architecture and historical origins of the media deconstruction movement reveals why independent funding is the only shield against corporate bias. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 850 - **Published:** 2016-08-12 - **Length:** 3h 33m - **Topics:** [Value for Value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [Media Deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [Freedom Controller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-controller.md), [CNET](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnet.md), FEMA Region 3, [Theater of the Mind](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater-of-the-mind.md), Podcast Engineering - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux ## About this episode Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the 2016 political convention cycle, contrasting the high-volume media output of the Republican event against the Democratic gathering. Broadcasting from a New Jersey motel in FEMA Region 3 and Northern Silicon Valley, the duo analyzes the partisan comedic bias of Samantha Bee and the evolution of media sourcing from television DVRs to YouTube. This special retrospective also traces the show's origins back to a 1993 CNET pilot and the eventual formation of the No Agenda brand. The production workflow relies on the Freedom Controller, an open-source system built by producer Dave Jones to manage real-time IRC chat integration and audio sculpting. Technical details include the use of Heil PR40 and Rode Procaster microphones, M-Audio hardware, and fast-acting noise gates to create a specific theater of the mind. The hosts explain the Value for Value funding model as a superior alternative to the NPR underwriter system, citing financial independence from corporate advertisers as a primary defense against government censorship and the Alex Jones canary. Adam Curry reflects on his departure from MTV and mainstream radio following his coverage of the Michael Jackson death investigation. John C. Dvorak details his constant audio collection using H2 recorders and his preference for the CAD 3000 microphone. The episode features the influential Family Guy Weenie and the Butt parody and the origins of the Deducing jingle, concluding with a promise of a boots-on-the-ground report from Nice, France. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 850, Jersey Motel and Silicon Valley (0:00–4:16) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 850 of the No Agenda podcast on August 11, 2016. Curry broadcasts from a motel in New Jersey within FEMA Region 3, while Dvorak remains in Northern Silicon Valley. They explain that this specific program is "almost live" because both hosts are currently on brief vacations. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), episode 850, fema region 3, [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Media Industry Terminology, Lede and ISO Definitions (4:17–7:53) The hosts define industry-specific terms to help new listeners understand their jargon, such as "evergreen" content. They explain that "lede" is spelled L-E-D-E in journalism to prevent the word from accidentally being printed in the final copy. Additionally, they define "ISO" as an isolated recording or standalone clip used during the show's production. Keywords: lede, [iso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iso.md), isolated recording, newspaper terminology, [media production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-production.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Podcast Production Workflow, Chat Room Integration and Signal-to-Noise (7:53–13:10) Adam Curry describes the technical complexity of producing the show as a "one-man band," managing clips, audio levels, and a real-time IRC chat room. He compares his ability to filter information from the scrolling chat to "neural network recognition," a concept he learned from a CIA associate. Curry emphasizes that the chat room is integrated into his workflow, though he occasionally has to step away when the "signal-to-noise" ratio becomes distracting or negative. Keywords: [chat room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chat-room.md), irc client, neural network recognition, production workflow, signal-to-noise [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Media Deconstruction, Donald Trump and Government Agency Allegations (13:10–17:45) The hosts discuss their role in deconstructing mainstream media coverage of Donald Trump, noting the irony that they are often accused of being Trump defenders. They read a satirical letter from contributor Professor Dave King, who jokingly claims the show is a government-sanctioned propaganda operation. The letter suggests the show's clips and jingles are pre-prepared by a three-letter agency to keep the public confused. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), professor dave king, [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Political Convention Coverage, Samantha Bee and Comedic Bias (17:45–21:16) The hosts reflect on the high volume of media clips generated during the 2016 political conventions, noting that the Republican event provided more "gold mine" material than the Democratic one. They criticize comedian Samantha Bee of the show Full Frontal for her perceived partisan bias, arguing that her "hate" for Republicans hinders her comedic timing. They also briefly mention Bill Maher's persona and his views on religion. Keywords: [republican national convention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-national-convention.md), [democratic national convention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-national-convention.md), [samantha bee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samantha-bee.md), full frontal, [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Evolution of Media Sourcing, YouTube and Producer Contributions (21:17–24:04) The process of gathering clips has evolved from recording directly off a television DVR to sourcing high-quality segments from YouTube and other online platforms. This shift allows the hosts to provide direct links in the show notes for their audience. They credit their "producers" (listeners) for finding and sharing relevant clips via Twitter, which helps them stay current on global news events. Keywords: [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [dvr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvr.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), media sourcing, [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/6.md) ### 7. The Onion Format, Episode 200.5 and Show History (24:04–28:20) The hosts introduce a special "onion" format episode that stacks previous introductory shows (200.5 and 200.7) to provide a historical overview for new listeners. They acknowledge that while the show has elements of performance art, its primary goal is to explain the various memes and the "In the Morning" catchphrase. They reflect on how their understanding of the show's own history is often as vague as the listeners'. Keywords: episode 200.5, episode 200.7, [show history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-history.md), [performance art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/performance-art.md), [evergreen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evergreen.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Linguistic Habits, Audio Quality Improvements and Skype Latency (28:21–32:54) Reviewing older episodes, the hosts cringe at their past linguistic habits, such as the frequent use of "fact of the matter" and "at the end of the day." They also discuss the significant improvement in audio quality since 2010, moving from high-latency Skype calls with frequent dropouts to a sophisticated real-time digital plugin system. Curry notes his transition from portable digital setups to high-end outboard gear to achieve a professional sound. Keywords: [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [audio quality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-quality.md), noise gating, [universal audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/universal-audio.md), linguistic crutches [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Headphone Usage, M-Audio Hardware and Microphone Preferences (32:55–36:13) Dvorak explains his unconventional preference for not using headphones during broadcasts, which previously caused audio feedback issues. The hosts discuss their current hardware, including M-Audio breakout boxes and specific microphones like the Heil PR40 and the Rode Procaster. They detail the technical requirements of their setups, such as the need for 48-volt phantom power for certain units. Keywords: [m-audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m-audio.md), [heil pr40](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heil-pr40.md), [rode procaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rode-procaster.md), phantom power, [headphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/headphones.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Post-Mortem Rituals, Listening Skills and Retired Clips (36:13–41:03) The hosts describe their "post-mortem" ritual of gossiping and critiquing the show immediately after recording. Curry admits that his listening skills have improved over time, though he still occasionally misses Dvorak's points while managing technical tasks. They also mention retiring certain sound effects, like a submarine dive sound, and the occasional error of playing the same clip in consecutive shows. Keywords: [post-mortem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/post-mortem.md), listening skills, [white house correspondents dinner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-correspondents-dinner.md), [sound effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sound-effects.md), [archives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archives.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Backstage Tour, Early Career and MTV Departure (41:04–45:05) In a segment from the original episode 200.5, the hosts provide a "backstage tour" of their history in mainstream media. Adam Curry discusses his time at MTV and his eventual departure from mainstream radio after being fired for discussing the Michael Jackson death investigation. They recall the early days of the podcast in 2007, when Curry was living in London and the show had a significantly different, less structured flavor. Keywords: [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [meveo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meveo.md), [michael jackson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-jackson.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [podcasting origins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-origins.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/11.md) ### 12. CNET Pilots, Halsey Minor and Early Tech Media (45:05–48:43) The hosts recount their first meeting in 1993 during the filming of pilots for CNET. Curry recalls registering CNET.com and being paid $200,000 for the pilot, while Dvorak remembers the involvement of Hollywood producer Kevin Wendell. They discuss the early competition for hosting roles, noting that Leo Laporte was originally considered for the "McLaughlin Group" style roundtable. Keywords: [cnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnet.md), [halsey minor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/halsey-minor.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), kevin wendell, [vhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vhs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Meveo Meetings, Show Naming and Conversation Dynamics (48:44–52:43) The hosts detail their re-connection at Meveo through Ron Blum, which led to the creation of the Tech 5 news show and eventually No Agenda. They credit the name "No Agenda" to a casual realization that they had no specific goals for the program other than honest conversation. Curry expresses his belief that a natural, unscripted conversation between two well-traveled individuals is inherently interesting to an audience. Keywords: [meveo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meveo.md), ron blum, [tech 5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-5.md), [cranky geeks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cranky-geeks.md), no agenda name [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Career Guidance Tests, Natural Cynicism and Audience Feedback (52:43–55:48) Dvorak shares an anecdote about a career guidance test that identified his ideal profession as a "critic," which aligns with his natural cynicism. The hosts discuss how their different fan bases initially reacted to the partnership, with some listeners suggesting they should perform solo. They conclude that their complementary perspectives are what eventually built a loyal, unified audience. Keywords: mmpi test, career guidance, [cynicism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cynicism.md), [audience growth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audience-growth.md), solo shows [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Radio Philosophy, Theater of the Mind and MIT Sound Studies (55:48–59:03) Both hosts express a deep-seated love for radio as a "theater of the mind" that requires no visual preparation. They discuss the importance of high-quality audio, citing an MIT Media Lab study which found that viewers perceive a television picture as being higher quality if the accompanying sound is superior. Dvorak recalls his time as a "hero" to sound engineers at TechTV for advocating for better microphones and audio processing. Keywords: [theater of the mind](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater-of-the-mind.md), [fcc license](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc-license.md), [mit media lab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mit-media-lab.md), dolby, [sound engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sound-engineering.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Audio Sculpting, Noise Gates and the Star of the Show (59:03–1:01:06) Adam Curry explains his technical process for "sculpting" the show's sound using noise gates and compression to eliminate ambient room noise and create a sense of intimacy. They discuss how the silence created by noise gates can actually grab a listener's attention. The hosts joke about who the "star" of the show is, comparing their dynamic to the Smothers Brothers. Keywords: [noise gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noise-gates.md), [compression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/compression.md), ambient noise, [skype delay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype-delay.md), [smothers brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smothers-brothers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Family Guy Influence, Weenie and the Butt, Morning Zoo Parody (1:01:06–1:06:07) The hosts credit a specific episode of the animated series Family Guy, featuring the "Weenie and the Butt" radio parody, as a major influence on the show's aesthetic. They play a clip of the parody, which mocks the content-free "Morning Zoo" radio format of the 1980s and 90s. This satire led to the adoption of the "In the Morning" catchphrase and the use of various sound effects to pace the show. Keywords: [family guy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/family-guy.md), [weenie and the butt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weenie-and-the-butt.md), [morning zoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-zoo.md), [seth macfarlane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-macfarlane.md), [radio parody](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio-parody.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Show Evolution, Pacing and the Goldman Sachs Lifestyle (1:06:08–1:10:48) The show's format evolved from a casual conversation to a structured mockery of mainstream media, aided by jingles produced by Jeff Smith. The hosts argue that their show provides a service for busy professionals, such as those at Goldman Sachs, who do not have the time to dig through news stories to find hidden connections or media deceptions. They emphasize that they are entertaining themselves while providing valuable analysis. Keywords: [jeff smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-smith.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [media mockery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-mockery.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), current events [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/18.md) ### 19. C-SPAN Addiction, Show Prep and the Freedom Controller (1:10:48–1:15:23) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss their heavy reliance on C-SPAN for show material, praising its unedited coverage and searchable video archives. Curry describes his "Freedom Controller" system for organizing show notes and links using Gmail labels and specialized software. They often send each other real-time alerts to watch specific C-SPAN segments, comparing themselves to the Muppets' Statler and Waldorf. Keywords: [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [book tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/book-tv.md), [freedom controller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-controller.md), gmail labels, [show prep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-prep.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Value for Value Model, NPR Underwriters and Financial Independence (1:15:23–1:19:36) The hosts explain the "Value for Value" funding model, which relies on direct listener donations rather than traditional advertising. They criticize the NPR and PBS model of using "underwriters," which they argue is just a euphemism for corporate advertising that compromises objective reporting. They recount how listeners began sending them money they would have otherwise given to public broadcasting, leading to the show's financial independence. Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [underwriters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwriters.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Open Source Content, Novelist Business Model and Commercial Breaks (1:19:37–1:24:16) Adam Curry advocates for an "open source" approach to the podcast, allowing anyone to redistribute the content. They compare their donation model to that of a novelist or a church, where the audience provides direct support for the work they value. Both hosts express a long-standing hatred for commercial breaks, which they feel interrupt the creative flow and ruin the quality of media products. Keywords: [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), novelist model, [commercial breaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commercial-breaks.md), creative freedom, [direct support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/direct-support.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Live Streaming, Chat Room Feedback and Professional Podcasting (1:24:16–1:27:33) The decision to stream the show live provided an instant feedback loop through the chat room, which Curry uses for punchlines and real-time links. They distinguish their "Value for Value" system from a simple "tip jar," asserting that they are running a professional-level operation. Dvorak notes that while some listeners suggest getting advertisers, they prefer the honesty and closeness to the audience that direct support provides. Keywords: [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md), [chat room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chat-room.md), instant feedback, religious programming, [tip jar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tip-jar.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Public Service, Competitive Edge and Getting Laid (1:27:33–1:32:01) The hosts believe the show serves as a public service by providing listeners with a "competitive edge" in their daily lives and careers. Dvorak compares this to his old PC Magazine columns, which were designed to make readers smarter than their colleagues. Curry jokes that the ultimate goal is to help the audience "get laid" by making them sound more intelligent and informed in social situations. Keywords: [public service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-service.md), [entertainment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entertainment.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md), competitive edge, social enrichment [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Personal Fulfillment, Hookers and Blow, The Crackpot Shield (1:32:01–1:36:18) Adam Curry expresses deep personal fulfillment in producing the show, stating he feels he was "born to do this." They address listener questions about their "hookers and blow" jokes, with Curry clarifying his views on the sex industry based on his upbringing in Amsterdam. They also discuss the "crackpot" moniker, which they embrace as a "shield" that allows them to speak the truth while being dismissed by authorities as harmless conspiracy theorists. Keywords: personal fulfillment, [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [crackpot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crackpot.md), [conspiracy theorist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theorist.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Producer Community, No Agenda Art and Trademark Philosophy (1:36:18–1:39:51) The show relies on a community of volunteer artists, such as Randy Asher and Paul T, who create custom artwork for every episode. The hosts discuss their "post-mortem" process for selecting show titles for SEO and choosing the best art from submissions. They reiterate their anti-trademark philosophy, encouraging fans to create and sell their own No Agenda merchandise without fear of legal action. Keywords: [randy asher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/randy-asher.md), [paul t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-t.md), [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [seo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seo.md), [trademark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trademark.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Freedom Controller, Structured Data and Automated Show Notes (1:39:54–1:45:01) Adam Curry details the "Freedom Controller," an open-source system built by producer Dave Jones to manage show preparation and notes. The system allows Curry to clip articles, save offline abstracts, and drag-and-drop sound files into a structured outline. This automation turns the preparation process directly into the final show notes, saving hours of production time and enabling searchable archives. Keywords: [freedom controller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-controller.md), [dave jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-jones.md), [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [structured data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/structured-data.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Show Day Routine, Improv Performance and Misspelled Clips (1:45:02–1:49:11) The hosts describe their intense show-day routines, with Curry often working until 2:00 AM on analysis and legislation. They emphasize that the show is a "performance art" piece based on improv, with no rehearsals or pre-interviews to maintain natural tension. Curry admits to frequently misspelling clip filenames in his haste, which Dvorak has learned to navigate during their real-time interactions. Keywords: show day, [improv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/improv.md), [performance art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/performance-art.md), radio cues, file naming [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Resurgence of Podcasting, Linear Media Constraints and The Intercept (1:49:12–1:53:49) The hosts discuss the mainstream media's "resurgence" in podcasting, noting that traditional broadcasters often struggle with the format's lack of linear constraints. They contrast their own flexible show lengths with the rigid 59-minute slots of NPR or the "eyes-glazing" long-form posts of The Intercept. They argue that while they have no hard breaks, they still "edit in real time" by moving between topics naturally. Keywords: [linear media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linear-media.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [the intercept](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-intercept.md), word count, [editing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/editing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Episodic Memory, Benghazi Thesis and Conceptual Art (1:53:50–1:57:47) As the show has matured, the hosts have moved toward "deeper digs" into complex subjects like the Benghazi kidnapping thesis. They acknowledge that the show's artwork has evolved from simple photos of the hosts to sophisticated conceptual art by contributors like Martin JJ and Nick Durant. They also reflect on how their show length has naturally increased as the availability of online material has grown. Keywords: episodic memory, [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), hilda knowlton, [martin jj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-jj.md), nick durant [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Studio Atmosphere, Moving Blankets and Microphone Mods (1:57:47–2:01:53) Adam Curry describes his preference for a "dark, dingy cave" studio atmosphere, using heavy moving blankets to deaden room echo. Dvorak discusses his use of a CAD 3000 microphone from China, which was recommended by a professional microphone "modder." They compare their different recording environments, with Curry seeking a "night disc jockey" vibe and Dvorak allowing for more natural room ambience. Keywords: [studio setup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/studio-setup.md), [moving blankets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moving-blankets.md), cad 3000, microphone mods, michael joly [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Noise Gate Philosophy, Digital Silence and The Abyss Look (2:01:54–2:05:16) The hosts discuss the technical philosophy of using fast-acting noise gates to create "digital silence" when neither host is speaking. Curry explains how he helped fellow podcaster Andrew Horowitz set up a similar system for the DH Unplugged show. Dvorak compares the "dead" audio sound to the "Abyss" visual style used by Charlie Rose, which utilizes black velvet to create a void-like background. Keywords: [noise gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noise-gates.md), digital silence, [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), the abyss, [dh unplugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dh-unplugged.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Infrastructure Support, Soundbyte Software and The Wiki Page (2:05:17–2:09:03) The show's technical infrastructure is maintained by volunteer "CISOPs" like Void Zero (Ben), who manage bandwidth and streaming. Adam Curry reveals he uses "Soundbyte" software by Black Cat Software on an original iPad to trigger his soundboard and jingles. They also briefly discuss the No Agenda Wiki, which serves as a repository for the show's various memes, jingles, and host biographies. Keywords: [void zero](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/void-zero.md), [soundbyte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soundbyte.md), black cat software, no agenda wiki, [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Soundboard Tour, Jingle Origins and The Deducing Song (2:09:03–2:13:05) Adam Curry provides a tour of his digital soundboard, playing various "beds" and "rim shots" used to pace the show, including the birthday song and the "New World Order" clips. They discuss the origins of popular jingles like "Karma" and "Deducing," noting that many were created by anonymous listeners. Dvorak highlights his favorite clips, such as "Two to the Head" and the various "Science" stings. Keywords: [soundboard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soundboard.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [douchebag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/douchebag.md), two to the head [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Knighthoods, The Night Network and Global Recognition (2:13:06–2:16:35) The hosts discuss the "No Agenda Knighthoods," a merit-based system for high-level donors that parodies the British honors system. Dvorak argues that their knighthoods are just as valid as those granted by the Queen of England and suggests creating a "Night Network" iPhone app for exclusive communication among knights. They note the diversity of their knights, which includes doctors, dentists, and lawyers. Keywords: [knighthoods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthoods.md), [queen of england](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queen-of-england.md), night network, [iphone app](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-app.md), [meritocracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meritocracy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Marketing Strategy, Church Models and Motivation (2:16:35–2:20:49) John C. Dvorak, drawing on his background in direct marketing and public radio, explains how he uses "church" and "PBS" models to drive show promotions. They discuss how they monitor listener numbers and donor reports to gauge the show's health. Curry admits that while low donations don't make him less excited, they do motivate him to "deconstruct" the product and improve the next episode. Keywords: [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [church model](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/church-model.md), [direct marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/direct-marketing.md), motivation, donor reports [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Teammate Dynamics, Scoring Goals and Sincere Praise (2:20:50–2:24:30) The hosts analyze their on-air relationship, describing it as a "teammate" dynamic rather than a "father-son" one. They admit to a healthy level of competition, where each host tries to "score a goal" by bringing a superior story or analysis. Dvorak notes that he only gives Curry "kudos" when he knows he cannot top the information Curry has presented. Keywords: teammate dynamics, [competition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/competition.md), praise, father-son relationship, dominance [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Global Listenership, Australian Support and The Danish Anomaly (2:24:30–2:28:11) A breakdown of global listenership reveals that while the United States is the primary source of support, Australia ranks surprisingly high as the second-largest donor base. The hosts speculate that this is due to the high level of media suppression in Australia. They also note anomalies, such as high listenership in Denmark with low financial support, and a lack of engagement from Poland despite frequent show coverage. Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Subscriber Numbers, PayPal Issues and Financial Stability (2:28:12–2:30:47) The hosts admit that determining exact "subscriber" numbers is impossible due to the nature of podcasting, proxies, and BitTorrent distribution. They estimate their audience is between 50,000 and 400,000, though only about 1,500 people are active $5 monthly subscribers. They discuss technical issues with PayPal that often cause subscriptions to lapse, affecting the show's financial stability. Keywords: [subscribers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscribers.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), bit torrent, [proxies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/proxies.md), [financial stability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-stability.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Clip Collection, H2 Recorders and Spousal Feedback (2:30:48–2:33:32) Dvorak describes his constant state of clip collection, using an H2 recorder to capture audio even while watching movies with his family. Curry admits to testing his "raps" on his wife, Mickey, though she often "shoots him down." They emphasize that while the show notes are extensive, the actual on-air discussion is driven by finding one or two "zingers" that will resonate with the audience. Keywords: [h2 recorder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h2-recorder.md), clip collection, [show prep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-prep.md), [mickey curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-curry.md), [zingers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zingers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Dead Ends, Nokia Apps and BlackBerry Podcasting (2:33:33–2:38:25) The hosts address "dead ends" in their research, such as a rumored global fund from the Reagan era that Curry could not verify. They provide technical advice for listeners using older devices like the Nokia E71 and BlackBerry, explaining how to use RSS feeds to access the show. They also joke about the "glut of talent" on the show despite it being the same two hosts for years. Keywords: dead ends, [nokia e71](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nokia-e71.md), [blackberry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackberry.md), [rss feed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss-feed.md), investigative work [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/40.md) ### 41. Future Outlook, Independent Control and The Alex Jones Canary (2:38:25–2:42:58) Looking to the future, the hosts assert that their independent model protects them from the "attack mechanism" of advertisers. They compare their situation to Alex Jones, whom they view as a "canary in the coal mine" for government censorship of independent media. They express confidence that as long as they maintain their "crackpot" status and direct listener support, they will remain below the radar of major regulatory interference. Keywords: [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [independent media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent-media.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), arbitron, [conspiracy theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theory.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/41.md) ### 42. Listener Interaction, Encryption and Foreign Media Sources (2:42:59–2:48:29) The hosts provide guidelines for listener interaction, requesting short, descriptive subject lines and the use of encryption for sensitive government leaks. They discourage sending the same idea to both hosts and emphasize the importance of timestamps for long video links. Dvorak notes his increased use of foreign media sources to find stories that are ignored by the American mainstream press, such as events in Cambodia. Keywords: [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [pgp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pgp.md), foreign media, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), listener interaction [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/42.md) ### 43. Email Management, FIFO Problems and Show Night Deadlines (2:48:29–2:52:33) Dvorak and Curry discuss the "FIFO" (First In, First Out) problem of managing hundreds of daily emails, where the most recent messages often get the most attention. Dvorak uses "Squirrel Mail" and prints out important emails, while Curry relies on his digital system. They set strict deadlines for donations and clips, with Dvorak "closing the books" at midnight Pacific Time on the night before a show. Keywords: email management, fifo, [squirrel mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squirrel-mail.md), show night, [deadlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deadlines.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/43.md) ### 44. Morning Production, File Naming and Memory Retention (2:52:34–2:56:28) To ensure memory retention, Dvorak produces his final clips on the morning of the show, as filenames are often too short to contain full descriptions. He organizes these into folders to keep track of the "nut" of each segment. Curry follows a similar process, organizing both his and Dvorak's clips into folders just before the broadcast begins to ensure a smooth, real-time flow. Keywords: morning production, memory retention, file naming, [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), clip organization [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/44.md) ### 45. Staff Appreciation, Demographic Diversity and Newsletter Importance (2:56:28–3:00:37) The hosts thank their small support staff, including "Eric the Shill" for customer support and Mimi for organizational oversight. They marvel at the diversity of their audience, which spans from intelligence officers to steelworkers, making it impossible to sell to traditional advertisers. Curry emphasizes the importance of the show's newsletter and warns listeners to check their "Promotions" tab in Gmail to ensure they receive it. Keywords: [eric the shill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-the-shill.md), [mimi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), gmail promotions [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Community Meetups, Amtrak Train Museum and Sign-off (3:00:38–3:04:13) The hosts discuss the "No Agenda community" and the long-lasting friendships formed at local meetups around the world. Dvorak reiterates his plan for a meetup at the Sacramento Train Museum via Amtrak, promoting the idea that "trains are good, planes are bad." They sign off with their traditional "Adios Mofos" and a promise to return for the next regular Sunday show. Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [amtrak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amtrak.md), sacramento train museum, [moscow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moscow.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/46.md) ### 47. Post-Show Reflection, Donkey Punch and Long-Distance Dynamics (3:04:14–3:08:45) In a final reflection, the hosts discuss the "Donkey Punch" joke from the Family Guy clip and the benefits of their long-distance working relationship. They argue that being in the same studio would likely lead to the "Martin and Lewis" effect of personal friction. Curry credits radio mentor Scott Shannon for teaching him the value of silence in broadcasting. Keywords: donkey punch, [seth macfarlane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-macfarlane.md), long-distance, martin and lewis, [scott shannon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-shannon.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/47.md) ### 48. Non-Visual Queuing, Harmonica Practice and Listening Skills (3:08:46–3:13:05) The hosts explain how they have developed non-visual queuing techniques to compensate for not being in the same room. Dvorak mentions his ongoing practice with the harmonica, hoping to eventually use it for on-air "hits." They conclude that the "theater of the mind" created by their audio-only format is a unique skill that requires intense listening from both the hosts and the audience. Keywords: queuing, [harmonica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harmonica.md), listening skills, [theater of the mind](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater-of-the-mind.md), [bluetooth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bluetooth.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Hookers and Blow Misunderstandings, Guest Policy and PR Pestering (3:13:06–3:17:06) The hosts clarify a misunderstanding regarding the phrase "hookers and blow," noting that some older listeners misinterpreted "blow" as a sexual act rather than cocaine. They reiterate their strict "no guest" policy, which protects them from being pestered by PR firms and avoids the "dud" guest problem. Dvorak recounts an instance where tech figure Michael Arrington failed to show up for a scheduled appearance, reinforcing his dislike for guest-dependent formats. Keywords: [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md), [pr firms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pr-firms.md), guest policy, michael arrington, [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/49.md) ### 50. Media Deconstruction vs. Interviews, Podcast Awards and Lo-Fi Streams (3:17:07–3:21:29) The hosts argue that pulling a one-minute "nut" from someone else's interview is more effective than conducting a 30-minute interview themselves. They mention winning a Podcast Award and discuss the "lo-fi" streams created by fans to help listeners with data caps. Curry explains why he stopped publishing his raw jingles, citing a lack of attribution from other podcasters who used them without permission. Keywords: [podcast awards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-awards.md), lo-fi, [bandwidth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bandwidth.md), [phone boy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phone-boy.md), jingle attribution [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/50.md) ### 51. Cognitive Dissonance, Chris Hedges and The Evil Corp Media (3:21:30–3:25:54) The hosts discuss the "cognitive dissonance" and physical illness caused by mainstream media consumption, contrasting it with the relaxed demeanor of analyst Chris Hedges. They argue that the media acts as an "Evil Corp" that confuses the public. They contrast their "Value for Value" model with the "NPR tote bag" model, asserting that their listeners are true producers rather than just donors. Keywords: [cognitive dissonance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cognitive-dissonance.md), [chris hedges](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hedges.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), evil corp, npr tote bags [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/850-200-8-re-redux/chapter/51.md) ### 52. Art Generator, Martin JJ Streak and The Douchebag Jingle (3:25:54–3:29:52) The hosts praise the "No Agenda Art Generator" and the competitive spirit among their volunteer artists, noting Martin JJ's long streak of accepted covers. They revisit the origin of the "Douchebag" jingle, explaining that it was a listener-driven invention that they initially hesitated to use. They compare their use of audience-insulting humor to that of sports radio host Jim Rome. 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