# Clean Food

> Tensions escalate at a nuclear-armed Turkish air base while the Democratic National Convention deploys coordinated counter-chants and celebrity appearances to manage a fractured party base.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 847
- **Published:** 2016-07-31
- **Length:** 2h 57m
- **Topics:** Incirlik Base, DemExit, [Zika Virus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zika-virus.md), Clean Food, Lockhart Crash, [Stephen Cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-cohen.md), [Thomas Frank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-frank.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food

## About this episode

Turkish troops and civilians have surrounded the Incirlik Air Base as President Erdogan alleges NATO and U.S. involvement in the recent coup attempt. The standoff at the nuclear-armed facility coincides with the dismissal of U.S. Generals Joseph Votel and David Haight, fueling claims of CIA interference in Turkish domestic affairs. Meanwhile, in Texas, a fatal hot air balloon crash in Lockhart prompts a review of aviation safety and the inherent risks of controlled crashing.

Democratic National Convention speakers including General John Allen and Jennifer Granholm utilized high-energy, wrestling-style promos to drown out Bernie Sanders supporters and the DemExit movement. Congressman Emanuel Cleaver praised Hillary Clinton’s resilience while media analysts Joy Reid and Chris Matthews debated the party's shift toward a professional managerial class. Reports from the floor indicate the DNC utilized paid seat fillers and coordinated counter-chants to maintain optics, while RT correspondent Gaia Chichakyan challenged State Department spokesperson John Kirby over civilian casualties in Syria. In Florida, the first local transmissions of the Zika virus in Miami-Dade County have triggered a massive $1.9 billion federal funding push.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from an Airstream trailer in the Texas Hill Country, offering a de-douching of German podcast producers and a critique of Panera Bread’s clean food rebranding. The duo analyzes the phonetic power of the name Trump and examines viral footage of Hillary Clinton’s balloon reaction and robotic speech cadence. Sir John of Murfreesboro receives a knighthood as the show concludes with a deep dive into Thomas Jefferson’s history with mac and cheese.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, Texas Hill Country Broadcast (0:00–2:23)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 847 of No Agenda from an Airstream trailer in the Texas Hill Country. Curry explains he is staying in the trailer near Lockhart, Texas, while his daughter visits from Holland. The hosts discuss the improved acoustics of the mobile studio and note their proximity to a recent hot air balloon crash site.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), airstream of consciousness, [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), [lockhart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockhart.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Hot Air Balloon Safety, Controlled Crashing, Lockhart Accident (2:24–5:28)

The hosts discuss the inherent dangers of hot air ballooning following a fatal crash in Lockhart, Texas. Personal anecdotes are shared regarding balloon rides in Napa Valley and the Swiss Alps, describing landings as "controlled crashing." Preliminary theories regarding the Lockhart incident suggest a propane explosion may have been the cause.

Keywords: hot air balloon, [lockhart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockhart.md), [napa valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/napa-valley.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), propane explosion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Cirrus Aircraft Parachutes, Austin Sixth Street Shooting (5:30–7:22)

A discussion of aviation safety focuses on Cirrus aircraft equipped with ballistic parachutes, with claims that they may breed pilot complacency. The conversation shifts to a recent active shooter event on Sixth Street in Austin, Texas. One person was killed and four wounded, leading to international concern from friends and family of the hosts.

Keywords: cirrus aircraft, ballistic parachute, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [sixth street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sixth-street.md), [active shooter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/active-shooter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Incirlik Air Base, Turkey Coup Allegations, NATO Tensions (7:24–10:53)

Turkish troops and civilians have reportedly surrounded the Incirlik Air Base, which houses U.S. forces and nuclear weapons. President Erdogan has alleged that NATO and the U.S. were involved in the recent coup attempt. The hosts examine claims of CIA and FBI involvement and the dismissal of U.S. Generals Joseph Votel and David Haight.

Keywords: [incirlik air base](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/incirlik-air-base.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [recep tayyip erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recep-tayyip-erdogan.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Gaia Chichakyan, State Department Journalism, Matt Lee (10:54–12:24)

The hosts discuss RT correspondent Gaia Chichakyan and her persistent questioning of State Department officials. A social media interaction involving journalist Matt Lee and former spokesperson Marie Harf is mentioned. Plans for a meeting between the hosts and Lee in Austin are proposed.

Keywords: gaia chichakyan, [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [marie harf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marie-harf.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Civilian Casualty Calculus, US Airstrikes, Michael Maloof (12:25–14:41)

Reports indicate the U.S. military uses a specific "calculus" to determine acceptable civilian casualties during airstrikes, with one official citing a limit of 50 lives to destroy an ISIL cash vault. Former Pentagon official Michael Maloof claims these policies persist because they lack mainstream media coverage. The hosts criticize the transparency of the State Department regarding these deaths.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [civilian casualties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civilian-casualties.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), michael maloof, [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Emanuel Cleaver, DNC Preaching, Hillary Clinton Resilience (14:41–16:51)

Congressman Emanuel Cleaver delivered a rhythmic, sermon-style speech at the Democratic National Convention. He used the refrain "she won't stay throwed" to describe Hillary Clinton's political resilience throughout her career. The hosts analyze the performance style and its reception by the convention audience.

Keywords: emanuel cleaver, [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [democratic national convention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-national-convention.md), preacher

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Syria Airstrikes, John Kirby, State Department Press Relations (17:00–21:59)

Syria's foreign ministry has urged the United Nations to condemn U.S.-led airstrikes that reportedly killed 45 civilians. State Department spokesperson John Kirby expressed irritation when questioned about these casualties by Gaia Chichakyan. The hosts characterize Kirby's management style as condescending and dismissive of press inquiries.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [john kirby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kirby.md), [barbara starr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-starr.md), civilian deaths

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Donald Trump, Blue Collar Builder, Elite Social Circles (21:59–30:41)

The hosts analyze Donald Trump's public persona as a "builder" from Queens rather than a member of the traditional wealthy elite. They argue that his gruff demeanor and communication style resonate with blue-collar workers and contractors. Michael Bloomberg's criticism of Trump is framed as the rejection of a "rich" person by the "wealthy" establishment.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [queens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queens.md), [construction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/construction.md), [blue collar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-collar.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Thomas Frank, Democratic Party Leadership, Class Shift (30:41–32:48)

Author Thomas Frank's analysis of the Democratic Party suggests a shift away from the working class toward a professional managerial class. The hosts discuss how the party leadership now identifies with affluent, highly educated suburbanites rather than traditional union workers. This transition is cited as a reason for the party's disconnect from its historical base.

Keywords: [thomas frank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-frank.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [blue collar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-collar.md), white collar, managerial class

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton Cadence, Robotic Speeches (32:48–36:59)

The hosts critique Chelsea Clinton's DNC speech, describing it as robotic and potentially influenced by anti-anxiety medication. An audio mix is played to demonstrate that Hillary Clinton uses an identical, rehearsed cadence across different interviews and speeches. They argue this consistency suggests a lack of authenticity.

Keywords: [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), paxil, speech cadence

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Hillary Clinton, No Sweat Claim, Balloon Reaction (37:00–38:42)

A clip from 2015 features Hillary Clinton claiming that she does not sweat, which the hosts use to joke about her being a robot. They also discuss her exaggerated reaction to the balloon drop at the DNC, labeling it a calculated performance for cameras and memes.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [robot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robot.md), balloons, [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [memes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/12.md)

### 13. DNC Media Coverage, Lisa Desjardins, Bernie Supporters (38:44–42:08)

Media analysts from NPR and PBS discuss the issue of trust regarding Hillary Clinton's candidacy. The hosts report on the suppression of Bernie Sanders supporters at the convention, alleging that delegates were locked out or silenced. They clarify that rumored "white noise machines" were actually Wi-Fi repeaters.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [lisa desjardins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisa-desjardins.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Don Lemon, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, CNN Overnight (42:09–46:19)

CNN's Don Lemon criticized Bernie Sanders supporters for being "rude" in Hillary Clinton's "house." During an late-night broadcast, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog appeared behind Lemon, mocking the "political dream team" panel. The hosts ridicule Lemon's self-importance and his position as an "overnight legend" at the network.

Keywords: [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), triumph the insult comic dog, [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/14.md)

### 15. DemExit Movement, Credential Issues, DNC Seat Fillers (46:21–48:00)

The "DemExit" movement, inspired by Brexit, involves Bernie Sanders supporters vowing to leave the Democratic Party. Democracy Now! reported on delegates who were denied credentials or had them revoked during the convention. Claims are made that seats were blocked off for paid actors to ensure a supportive-looking crowd for Hillary Clinton.

Keywords: demexit, [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [delegates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delegates.md), [credentials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credentials.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/15.md)

### 16. General John Allen, DNC Counter-Chants, Petraeus Scandal (48:00–53:03)

General John Allen delivered a high-energy speech at the DNC that the hosts compare to a professional wrestling promo. To drown out "no more war" chants from Bernie supporters, the convention organizers utilized "USA" counter-chants coordinated via cheat sheets. Allen's past involvement in the David Petraeus scandal is also noted.

Keywords: [john allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-allen.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [david petraeus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-petraeus.md), counter-chants

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/16.md)

### 17. MSNBC Analysis, Joy Reid, Chris Matthews vs. Chris Hayes (53:03–58:37)

MSNBC's Joy Reid praised the DNC as a "brilliant piece of television" comparable to the Oscars. Tensions between Chris Matthews and Chris Hayes are discussed, with Matthews expressing skepticism about the "America is great" theme. Matthews cited a Wall Street Journal poll showing two-thirds of the country is unhappy with its current direction.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [joy reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-reid.md), [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [chris hayes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hayes.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Citizens United, Constitutional Amendment, Hillary Clinton Grudge (58:38–1:01:57)

Hillary Clinton has proposed a constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizens United ruling. The hosts argue this is a personal grudge stemming from a 2008 documentary critical of her. They contend that limiting campaign spending is a violation of the First Amendment and that the proposal is politically unfeasible.

Keywords: [citizens united](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizens-united.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Hillary Clinton, Creation Story, Children's Defense Fund (1:01:59–1:03:43)

The hosts deconstruct Hillary Clinton's "creation story" presented at the DNC, narrated by Morgan Freeman. The narrative claims she chose the Children's Defense Fund over a lucrative corporate law career. The hosts question the lack of evidence for these corporate offers and criticize the DNC's heavy focus on children as a political tool.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), rose law firm, children's defense fund, [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [morgan freeman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morgan-freeman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Linguistics of Trump, Name Analysis, George Lakoff (1:03:44–1:05:17)

Linguistics professor George Lakoff analyzed the phonetic power of the name "Trump," noting the strength of the "TR" and "UMP" sounds. The hosts discuss how names impact political viability, referencing a past column by Dvorak regarding Newt Gingrich's name.

Keywords: george lakoff, [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [branding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/branding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Joe Biden, Vladimir Putin, Dictator Designation (1:05:19–1:08:24)

Vice President Joe Biden referred to Vladimir Putin as a "dictator" during a campaign speech. White House press briefings struggled to reconcile this label with official State Department language describing Russia as a "highly centralized authoritarian political system." The hosts debate whether Putin can be considered a dictator given his electoral history.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan Joke, Letterman Rip-off (1:08:24–1:10:32)

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar opened his DNC speech with a joke pretending to be Michael Jordan to insult Donald Trump. The hosts also point out that a DNC video segment featuring "great quotes in history" was a blatant imitation of a classic David Letterman comedy bit.

Keywords: [kareem abdul-jabbar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kareem-abdul-jabbar.md), [michael jordan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-jordan.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [david letterman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-letterman.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Eric Holder, Gray Matter, Trump Intelligence Debate (1:10:34–1:13:26)

Former Attorney General Eric Holder questioned Donald Trump's "gray matter" and intellectual depth during an interview with Charlie Rose. The hosts defend Trump's intelligence, arguing that building a billion-dollar empire is impossible for a "dummy." They suggest the media is shifting from calling Trump a "racist" to calling him "stupid."

Keywords: [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Amy Walter, Down-Ballot Strategy, Republican Voters (1:13:27–1:17:07)

Analyst Amy Walter discusses the Democratic strategy of appealing to Republicans to vote for Hillary Clinton. She notes this may inadvertently hurt down-ballot Democratic Senate candidates by encouraging Republican turnout. Walter observes a disconnect where voters do not necessarily link Trump to other Republican candidates on the ballot.

Keywords: amy walter, [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Barack Obama, Homegrown Demagogues, DNC Speech (1:17:08–1:18:50)

President Obama's DNC speech included a warning against "homegrown demagogues," which was widely interpreted as a jab at Donald Trump. The hosts argue that Bernie Sanders fits the definition of a demagogue more closely than Trump. They critique Obama's "preachy" delivery style during the address.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [demagogue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demagogue.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Jennifer Granholm, DNC Screaming, West Virginia Jobs (1:18:51–1:23:10)

Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm delivered a high-energy, shouting speech at the DNC that the hosts compare to Howard Dean's infamous "scream." They mock her claims that West Virginia coal miners will easily transition into high-tech steel jobs. The hosts argue that such economic promises are unrealistic and ignore the reality of regional labor markets.

Keywords: [jennifer granholm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jennifer-granholm.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [west virginia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-virginia.md), [howard dean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-dean.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/26.md)

### 27. No Agenda, Executive Producers, Donation Segment (1:23:13–1:31:08)

The hosts thank the producers and artists of the show, specifically mentioning Mark G for the album artwork. Sir David Fugazotto is named Executive Producer for episode 847. The hosts discuss the logistics of reading donation notes and defend the length of the "thank you" segments against listener complaints.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [mark g](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-g.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Hillary Clinton, Indian Country, Political Correctness (1:31:08–1:34:28)

During her DNC acceptance speech, Hillary Clinton used the phrase "from Indian country to coal country." The hosts highlight the irony of a high-profile Democrat using a term often considered politically incorrect. They link the phrasing to Elizabeth Warren's controversial claims regarding her own heritage.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), indian country, [native american](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-american.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Stephen Cohen, New Cold War, CNN Interview (1:34:29–1:41:24)

Professor Stephen Cohen appeared on CNN to warn of a "new and more dangerous Cold War" with Russia. He criticized the media for labeling Donald Trump a "Russian agent" instead of debating his proposed policy of detente. Cohen argued that the U.S. is approaching a nuclear confrontation similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Keywords: [stephen cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-cohen.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [cold war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cold-war.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/29.md)

### 30. CNN Russia Narrative, NATO Debate, Stephen Cohen Cutoff (1:41:24–1:45:39)

A CNN anchor challenged Stephen Cohen's defense of Trump's NATO comments and cited allegations of Russian hacking. Cohen responded that there is no evidence for claims that Putin wants to end Baltic independence and noted that "everybody hacks everybody." The interview ended abruptly, which the hosts interpret as the network silencing a dissenting view.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [stephen cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-cohen.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Russian Hackers, Voting Machines, Paper Ballots (1:45:39–1:47:13)

The Washington Post has warned that Russian hackers could target U.S. voting machines by November. The hosts express skepticism, noting that concerns about Diebold machines have existed for years without significant action. They advocate for a return to paper ballots and simple ink-based verification to ensure election integrity.

Keywords: [russian hackers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-hackers.md), [voting machines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-machines.md), [diebold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diebold.md), [paper ballots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paper-ballots.md), [voter id](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-id.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Hillary Clinton, Tongue Hole, Health Speculation (1:47:14–1:49:41)

The hosts discuss viral images from the DNC appearing to show a hole or lesion on Hillary Clinton's tongue. Speculation ranges from a biopsy for HPV to a dental anomaly. They also comment on Bill Clinton appearing to fall asleep during his wife's keynote speech.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), tongue, [biopsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biopsy.md), [hpv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv.md), [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Bill O'Reilly, Motherhood vs Fatherhood, Political Psychology (1:49:42–1:51:21)

A guest on Bill O'Reilly's program suggested that the Democratic Party represents "motherhood" while the Republican Party represents "fatherhood." The hosts find the observation astute, noting the DNC's heavy emphasis on nurturing and children. O'Reilly is criticized for dismissively cutting off the guest after the comment.

Keywords: [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), motherhood, [fatherhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fatherhood.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Bill Maher, Clinton Marriage, European Affairs (1:51:23–1:54:30)

Bill Maher analyzed the Clintons' marriage, suggesting that "fucking around" can coexist with real love. He claimed that Europeans are more accepting of such arrangements, citing French politicians. The hosts mock Maher's romanticized view of European infidelity and his defense of the Clintons' relationship.

Keywords: [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [marriage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marriage.md), [infidelity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infidelity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Cornel West, Bill Maher, Neoliberalism vs Fascism (1:54:31–1:59:31)

Cornel West appeared on Bill Maher's show to criticize Hillary Clinton's record on poverty and foreign policy, labeling her a "neoliberal." Maher used a train analogy to argue that while Clinton's "train" may be slow, Trump's "train" is heading to "hell." West maintained that voters should consider third-party candidates like Jill Stein.

Keywords: [cornel west](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cornel-west.md), [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [neoliberalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neoliberalism.md), [jill stein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jill-stein.md), [gary johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Jill Stein, Foreign Policy, Weapons Marketing (1:59:32–2:01:43)

Green Party candidate Jill Stein has criticized Hillary Clinton's use of private emails and her ties to "war profiteers." Stein described U.S. foreign policy as essentially a "marketing strategy for selling weapons." The hosts express appreciation for Stein's directness and her "troublemaker" style.

Keywords: [jill stein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jill-stein.md), [green party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-party.md), [foreign policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-policy.md), [weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weapons.md), [emails](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emails.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/36.md)

### 37. DNC Bullying Video, Hillary Clinton, Kindness Campaign (2:01:45–2:03:58)

The DNC featured a video of a young girl with asthma asking Hillary Clinton about bullying. Clinton responded by calling for more "love and kindness" in the country. The hosts criticize the segment as scripted and emotionally manipulative, designed to frame political opposition as "bullying."

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bullying.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), kindness, campaign video

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Women's Rights, 1995 Radicalism, Windows 95 (2:03:59–2:07:10)

Bill Clinton claimed at the DNC that Hillary's 1995 statement "women's rights are human rights" was radical at the time. The hosts dispute this, arguing that the sentiment was already mainstream in the mid-90s. They reminisce about the actual "radical" event of 1995: the difficult installation of Windows 95 via floppy disks.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [women's rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/women-s-rights.md), 1995, windows 95, [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Historical Election Vitriol, Jefferson vs Adams, USSR (2:07:10–2:09:20)

The hosts discuss the history of nasty political campaigns, noting that the Jefferson-Adams race was far more vitriolic than the current cycle. They mention past allegations of Democrats seeking help from the USSR. They also recall the harsh criticisms Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton leveled at each other during the 2008 primary.

Keywords: [thomas jefferson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-jefferson.md), [john adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-adams.md), [election history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-history.md), [ussr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ussr.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Thomas Jefferson, Mac and Cheese, Champagne History (2:09:20–2:10:52)

A segment from an Audible channel claims Thomas Jefferson introduced mac and cheese, French fries, and champagne to the White House. The hosts question the accuracy of the mac and cheese claim but acknowledge Jefferson's role as a Francophile who brought many European customs to America.

Keywords: [thomas jefferson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-jefferson.md), [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md), [champagne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/champagne.md), [french fries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/french-fries.md), [history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/history.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Republican Platform, Conversion Therapy, Media Misinformation (2:10:53–2:13:16)

The hosts fact-check claims by Chris Matthews and Gavin Newsom that the 2016 Republican platform supports "conversion therapy." Upon reviewing the document, they find the word "therapy" appears only once regarding general medical choice. They conclude the media is extrapolating and spreading misinformation about the platform's contents.

Keywords: [republican platform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-platform.md), [conversion therapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conversion-therapy.md), [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [fact check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fact-check.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Roger Ailes, Fox News, Sexual Harassment Allegations (2:13:16–2:17:07)

Following Roger Ailes' departure from Fox News, the hosts discuss the sexual harassment allegations against him. They examine a report by Gabriel Sherman claiming Ailes made female job applicants "twirl" to inspect their legs. The hosts argue that while crude, selecting talent based on appearance is a standard function of the television industry.

Keywords: [roger ailes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roger-ailes.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), gabriel sherman, [kimberly guilfoyle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kimberly-guilfoyle.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony, Birthday Wishes (2:17:08–2:27:00)

The hosts conclude the show by thanking numerous individual donors and reading their notes. They discuss a project to digitize the Redd Foxx comedy collection and the importance of preserving physical media. Sir John Knowles is knighted as Sir John of Murfreesboro, and several listeners receive "karma" for birthdays and job searches.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous.md), redd foxx, [murfreesboro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/murfreesboro.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/43.md)

### 44. DNC Optics, Khizr Khan, Katy Perry Performance (2:27:02–2:33:10)

The hosts review the final optics of the DNC, including Khizr Khan's speech and the presence of his "subservient" wife. They critique Katy Perry's performance, noting technical issues with her monitors. Additional observations include Chelsea Clinton's "robotic" delivery and the use of celebrity appearances like Elizabeth Banks.

Keywords: khizr khan, [katy perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/katy-perry.md), [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [optics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/optics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Off-Walking Podcast, German Producers, De-douching (2:33:12–2:34:34)

The hosts "de-douche" the producers of the German "Off-Walking" podcast after they were unfairly criticized. They acknowledge the support of German listeners and mention the "Merkel muss weg" (Merkel must go) protest movement currently active in Germany.

Keywords: off-walking podcast, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producers.md), [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/45.md)

### 46. CNN Europe on the Edge, Munich Shooting, Terrorism Definition (2:34:38–2:38:26)

CNN produced a segment titled "Europe on the Edge" that attempts to redefine terrorism for a millennial audience. The piece claimed the Munich shooting was not terrorism because the perpetrator was a "bullied teenager" without a political agenda. The hosts denounce the segment as blatant propaganda designed to downplay security concerns in Europe.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [munich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/munich.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Stolen US Weapons, Stuttgart Base, German Security (2:38:27–2:40:29)

RT reported that firearms and military equipment were stolen from a U.S. military base in Stuttgart, Germany, which houses elite units like Green Berets and Navy SEALs. The theft occurred over a month ago but was only recently disclosed. The hosts link this security breach to the heightened tensions and recent attacks in Germany.

Keywords: [stuttgart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stuttgart.md), green berets, [navy seals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy-seals.md), stolen weapons, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Zika Virus, Florida Transmission, Funding Push (2:40:29–2:43:44)

Florida has reported the first local transmission of the Zika virus via mosquito bites in Miami-Dade County. The hosts analyze the sudden, coordinated media "push" on this story, suggesting it is a tactic to pressure Congress for $1.9 billion in funding. They question where the money will actually go, citing past issues with Ebola funds.

Keywords: [zika virus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zika-virus.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [miami-dade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-dade.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Stolen Gun Meme, Confiscation Strategy, Stockton Mayor (2:43:46–2:46:03)

A news story about a gun stolen from the Stockton Mayor's home being used in a murder is identified as a new media meme. The hosts predict a "long game" strategy where gun owners are held responsible for thefts to justify future weapon confiscations. They argue that reporting a stolen gun does not inherently prevent its criminal use.

Keywords: [stockton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stockton.md), anthony silva, [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), confiscation, responsible ownership

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Panera Clean Food, Rebranding Organic, Bread and Water (2:46:03–2:50:31)

Panera Bread has launched a marketing campaign for "clean food," which the hosts believe is a rebranding effort to replace the legally problematic "organic" label. They mock the term as meaningless corporate jargon. The hosts jokingly propose a "clean" bread and water restaurant concept as a high-end trend.

Keywords: panera, clean food, [organic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/organic.md), [rebranding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rebranding.md), [gmo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Show Outro, Final Mixes, Gitmo Nation (2:50:32–2:57:02)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from the Airstream trailer outside Lockhart, Texas. They promote the upcoming Thursday show and thank their production team. The episode concludes with a series of satirical audio mixes featuring political figures and show themes.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [lockhart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockhart.md), [airstream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airstream.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/847-clean-food/chapter/51.md)

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