# Pre-Spousal

> A semantic battle erupts over Syrian troop deployments while the intelligence community maneuvers against isolationist rhetoric and the Dutch celebrate a subdued King's Day.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 820
- **Published:** 2016-04-28
- **Length:** 2h 47m
- **Topics:** [Boots on the Ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md), [Nicholas Burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicholas-burns.md), Fresnel Lenses, [Correct the Record](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/correct-the-record.md), King's Day, Heavy Water, SS Plop
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal

## About this episode

State Department spokesperson Rear Admiral John Kirby flatly denied the administration ever used the phrase "no boots on the ground" as a mantra, despite a massive montage of President Obama and various officials repeating the promise thousands of times. This semantic shift coincides with the deployment of 250 additional Special Forces to Syria, which Kirby attempted to redefine as something other than conventional combat. The administration's purchase of 35 tons of heavy water from Iran further complicates the regional narrative as military involvement continues to escalate under new definitions.

Ambassador Nicholas Burns criticized Donald Trump's foreign policy speech for lacking sophistication, while European outlets like the Dutch socialist Volkskrant labeled the candidate's "America First" platform as a turn toward isolationism. Speculation persists that the CIA and globalist elites favor Hillary Clinton due to her predictable internationalism, even as her "Correct the Record" organization reportedly spent one million dollars to hire internet trolls to attack Bernie Sanders supporters. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton defended his wife's health against rumors of neurological issues, despite reports from the Israeli agency Debka suggesting her 2012 concussion actually resulted from a secret plane crash in Iran.

Technical difficulties on the SS Plop houseboat in Amsterdam didn't stop the broadcast from exploring the cultural politics of eating habits, from John Kasich's unpresidential deli manners to Tina Turner's private dining etiquette. Adam Curry recounts how his 1980s Dutch television career permanently altered the national pronunciation of the name Madonna. The show concludes with a formal knighting ceremony on the Amsterdam canals for Sir Lunch Money of the Boreal Valley.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/transcript.md.

### 1. SS Plop Houseboat Connectivity Issues in Amsterdam (0:00–2:37)

The program originates from the SS Plop, a houseboat in Amsterdam, where technical difficulties with a dedicated internet line and a restrictive firewall are causing packet loss. A MIDI controller is also sending rogue commands, complicating the setup process for the broadcast.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), ss plop, houseboat, [midi controller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midi-controller.md), [firewall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firewall.md), [javascript](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javascript.md), dns misconfiguration

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/1.md)

### 2. King's Day Celebrations and Economic Vibe in Amsterdam (2:38–7:46)

Observations of King's Day in Amsterdam suggest a subdued atmosphere compared to previous years, potentially due to poor weather and a "waiting room depression" state in the country. The traditional flea market featured a shift from vintage goods like radios and vinyl to cheap plastic toys, alongside an increase in offered services like massages and shoe shines.

Keywords: king's day, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [royal family](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/royal-family.md), [flea market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flea-market.md), plastic toys, services, [alcohol consumption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alcohol-consumption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Donald Trump Foreign Policy Speech and European Media Reaction (7:46–11:52)

European newspapers, including the Dutch socialist Volkskrant, characterized Donald Trump's recent foreign policy speech as a move toward isolationism. While Trump emphasized an "America First" foundation and critiqued the Obama administration's record in the Middle East, European analysts expressed concern over a perceived lack of detail in his proposals.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [foreign policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-policy.md), [isolationism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isolationism.md), telegraf, [volkskrant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volkskrant.md), euro news, [america first](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/america-first.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Spot the Spook, Nicholas Burns Background Check (11:53–13:36)

A "Spot the Spook" analysis focuses on Nicholas Burns, a former American diplomat and professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. His educational background at Johns Hopkins and his linguistic skills in French, Arabic, and Greek are identified as red flags for potential intelligence community ties.

Keywords: [nicholas burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicholas-burns.md), spot the spook, [georgetown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgetown.md), [harvard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard.md), diplomat, [johns hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johns-hopkins.md), [intelligence community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence-community.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/4.md)

### 5. CIA Opposition to Donald Trump and Support for Hillary Clinton (13:36–16:52)

Speculation suggests the CIA and globalist elites are aligned against Donald Trump due to his anti-interventionist stance, favoring Hillary Clinton instead. The discussion posits that the intelligence community views Clinton as a reliable internationalist who understands their established systems, unlike Trump who threatens elite structures.

Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [globalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalism.md), [internationalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internationalism.md), [elites](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elites.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Nicholas Burns Critique of Trump Foreign Policy (16:52–21:33)

Ambassador Nicholas Burns criticized Donald Trump's foreign policy speech, claiming it lacked sophistication, nuance, and humility. Burns compared Trump unfavorably to past Republican presidents like Eisenhower and Reagan, notably omitting Richard Nixon, which is interpreted as a sign of Burns' alignment with the CIA.

Keywords: [nicholas burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicholas-burns.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [foreign policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-policy.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md), [dwight eisenhower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dwight-eisenhower.md), [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Crimea Annexation and Trump Putin Relations (21:34–23:45)

Nicholas Burns challenged the narrative surrounding Russia's actions in Crimea, characterizing the event as an invasion rather than a democratic vote. The discussion critiques Burns' framing of the event as a "verbal hit job" intended to portray Donald Trump as incapable of handling Vladimir Putin.

Keywords: [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [nicholas burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicholas-burns.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [annexation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/annexation.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Brexit Tax Rhetoric and OECD Economic Warnings (23:47–27:14)

OECD Chief Angel Gurria delivered a lecture in London describing a potential "Brexit Tax," arguing that leaving the European Union would act as a pure deadweight loss for UK citizens. This rhetoric is identified as a public relations effort designed to scare voters into remaining within the EU.

Keywords: [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [oecd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oecd.md), angel gurria, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [referendum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/referendum.md), [taxation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Deutsche Welle Analysis of Trump Non-Interventionism (27:15–30:25)

Deutsche Welle's Washington Bureau Chief provided a contrasting analysis of Donald Trump's foreign policy, noting a clear plan centered on non-interventionism. The German perspective highlighted Trump's desire to avoid trillions of dollars in wasteful spending on unwinnable foreign wars and his openness to improving relations with Russia.

Keywords: [deutsche welle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-welle.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), non-interventionism, [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [taxpayers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxpayers.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), foreign wars

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Donald Trump Teleprompter Performance and Staged Environments (30:26–32:01)

Donald Trump's use of a teleprompter during his foreign policy speech resulted in a robotic style that lacked his usual energy. The choice of a small, controlled room for the speech was likely a tactical move to prevent disruptions from protesters, though it resulted in a tepid atmosphere.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [campaign](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign.md), [protesters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protesters.md), [public speaking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-speaking.md), robotic style

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/10.md)

### 11. John Kasich Eating Habits and Public Image (32:02–34:44)

Donald Trump criticized John Kasich's public eating habits, describing them as disgusting after Kasich was filmed shoving large bites of food into his mouth at Katz's Deli. The commentary suggests that Kasich's lack of table manners makes him unpresidential.

Keywords: [john kasich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kasich.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), katz's deli, eating habits, [pastrami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pastrami.md), [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md), [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Tina Turner Dinner Anecdote and Table Manners (34:44–37:23)

A personal anecdote describes a dinner with Tina Turner in the Netherlands where the singer reportedly ate chicken with both hands in a manner reminiscent of her upbringing as Anna Mae Bullock. The story highlights the contrast between her public persona and her private eating habits.

Keywords: [tina turner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-turner.md), hans brokhove, veronica television, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md), [chicken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicken.md), [countdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/countdown.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Cultural Differences in Eating Etiquette (37:24–39:32)

Observations from a student tenure at Cal Berkeley detail the distinct eating habits of Chinese national students in the engineering department. The discussion explores how different cultural norms regarding mouth-noises and food handling can cause physical discomfort for those from different backgrounds.

Keywords: [university of california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-california.md), eating habits, [cultural differences](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-differences.md), [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md), chinese nationals, engineering school

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Dutch Culinary Traditions and Raw Herring (39:32–42:46)

The hosts discuss traditional Dutch foods, including poffertjes (small pancakes), bitterballen (deep-fried ragu), and raw herring. The proper technique for eating herring—holding it by the tail and dipping it in onions—is described as a unique cultural experience that can be polarizing for foreigners.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), poffertjes, [bitterballen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitterballen.md), raw herring, matjes, danish herring, onions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Correct the Record and Hillary Clinton Internet Trolls (42:47–45:16)

Hillary Clinton's "Correct the Record" organization reportedly invested one million dollars to hire internet trolls to attack Bernie Sanders supporters online. Nomiki Konst and other activists have highlighted this effort as a propaganda campaign designed to shame Sanders supporters into switching their allegiance to Clinton.

Keywords: [correct the record](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/correct-the-record.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [internet trolls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-trolls.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [daily beast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-beast.md), [yahoo news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yahoo-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Bernie Sanders Response to Republican Smear Allegations (45:17–48:39)

Bernie Sanders rejected claims that his continued criticism of Hillary Clinton aids the Republican party, stating that Republicans will attack her in ways he never would. Meanwhile, the "Correct the Record" team continues to position itself as a rapid response unit defending Clinton from what they term "baseless attacks."

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [smear campaign](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smear-campaign.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Justin Trudeau Gender Parity Cabinet Pledge (48:40–51:09)

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's pledge to maintain a cabinet that is 50% women is criticized as potentially anti-woman by limiting participation to a specific quota. The discussion suggests that Hillary Clinton is likely to adopt a similar "look like America" strategy for her potential cabinet.

Keywords: [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [cabinet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cabinet.md), gender parity, [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [sexism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexism.md), [quotas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quotas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Hillary Clinton Immigration Policy and Path to Citizenship (51:09–53:44)

During an MSNBC town hall with Rachel Maddow, Hillary Clinton called for an end to family detention and private prisons while advocating for comprehensive immigration reform. The discussion questions the "path to citizenship" rhetoric, noting that legal pathways like green cards already exist.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [immigration reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration-reform.md), path to citizenship, [green card](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-card.md), [private prisons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-prisons.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Hillary Clinton Health Speculation and Fresnel Lenses (53:48–56:07)

Speculation regarding Hillary Clinton's health focuses on her occasional use of glasses with Fresnel lenses, which are typically used to treat double vision. While some suggest these are signs of a stroke or neurological issues like MS or Parkinson's, others argue they are simply a result of contact lens fatigue.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md), fresnel lenses, double vision, [concussion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concussion.md), optician, [glasses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glasses.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Bill Clinton Defense of Hillary Health and Stamina (56:08–59:22)

Bill Clinton responded to Karl Rove's questions about Hillary's health by claiming she is in better shape and has more stamina than he does. Critics argue that Bill's own frail appearance makes this a "backhanded compliment" and suggests that Hillary's previous concussion was more serious than publicly admitted.

Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [karl rove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karl-rove.md), [concussion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concussion.md), [stamina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stamina.md), [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md), [walking dead](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walking-dead.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Iranian Secret Mission and Clinton Plane Crash Theory (59:23–1:01:58)

An unverified theory from the Israeli agency Debka suggests Hillary Clinton's 2012 concussion actually resulted from a secret plane crash during a mission to Iran. The report claims the crash killed a military staffer and caused a skull fracture, leading to a six-month recovery period that the State Department allegedly covered up.

Keywords: debka, [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [plane crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plane-crash.md), secret mission, skull fracture, [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Discrepancies in Hillary Clinton Concussion Recovery Timeline (1:02:00–1:05:02)

Bill Clinton's public statement that Hillary required six months of "serious work" to recover from her concussion has raised questions about the severity of the injury. Comparisons are made to NFL players who rarely face such long recovery times for concussions, fueling rumors of potential brain damage.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [concussion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concussion.md), [brain damage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-damage.md), [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/22.md)

### 23. No Agenda Show Production and Donation Trends (1:05:04–1:08:20)

The hosts review the current state of show donations, noting a decline in executive producers. They address listener feedback regarding MSM views and the Obama administration's request for $1.9 billion in Zika funding, which they characterize as a potential "scam."

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [zika](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zika.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Insurance Fraud Anecdotes and Listener Engagement Karma (1:08:23–1:11:07)

A listener shares a story of a car crash in Austin that led to a hospital stay in room 33, requesting "engagement karma" for a planned marriage proposal. This prompts an anecdote about an insurance adjuster who intentionally sought out distracted drivers to stage rear-end collisions for payouts.

Keywords: [insurance fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-fraud.md), [car crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/car-crash.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), ambulance, [hospital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospital.md), [engagement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/engagement.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Associate Executive Producer Credits and Value Proposition (1:11:09–1:14:01)

The hosts acknowledge associate executive producers and discuss the logistics of small donations, noting that PayPal fees significantly reduce the amount received from one-dollar contributions. They reiterate the "value for value" model and the importance of listener support.

Keywords: [associate executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associate-executive-producers.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [anonymous donors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous-donors.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Refugee Encounters and Protests in Europe (1:14:02–1:16:35)

A listener report from a European trip describes being inundated by refugee women in Paris using adoption papers as a ruse to solicit signatures or money. In Munich, refugees were observed selling selfie sticks, while unrecorded protests were noted throughout Paris.

Keywords: [paris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris.md), [munich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/munich.md), [refugees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refugees.md), [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md), [selfie sticks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selfie-sticks.md), adoption scams, euro trip

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Yale University Campus Culture and Political Correctness (1:16:36–1:18:53)

A Yale sophomore describes a campus environment dominated by "climate obsessed" and sensitive peers, where expressing humor or dissenting opinions leads to social shaming. The student provides internal documents from the university president regarding name changes for colleges and apologies for perceived microaggressions.

Keywords: [yale university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yale-university.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), climate obsession, [safe spaces](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safe-spaces.md), [student loans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-loans.md), [ivy league](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivy-league.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Grammar Snobbery and Linguistic Evolution Debate (1:18:53–1:22:39)

Mona Chalabi of The Guardian argues that "grammar snobs" are patronizing and use outdated rules to silence marginalized groups. The discussion explores the evolution of language, the interchangeable use of "less" and "fewer," and the Oxford Dictionary's updated definition of the word "literally."

Keywords: mona chalabi, [grammar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grammar.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [oxford dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxford-dictionary.md), [ageism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ageism.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), usage

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Language Evolution and Social Correction Etiquette (1:22:40–1:26:33)

The hosts discuss the mechanics of how language evolves through usage and the role of major dictionaries in "knighting" new definitions. They also touch on the social etiquette of correcting others and how technology like Alexa influences pronunciation.

Keywords: [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [oxford dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxford-dictionary.md), [merriam-webster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merriam-webster.md), [alexa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexa.md), [siri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siri.md), [tanzania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tanzania.md), [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Adam Curry Influence on Dutch Language Pronunciation (1:26:34–1:29:07)

Adam Curry recounts how his work in Dutch television in the 1980s changed the national pronunciation of the name "Madonna" and the show title "Dynasty." He notes that people still shout "Madonna" at him in the streets of the Netherlands decades later.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [madonna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madonna.md), dynasty, [pronunciation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pronunciation.md), [television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Cultural Appropriation versus Appreciation in Media (1:29:08–1:33:10)

A Huffington Post video on cultural appropriation sparks a debate on the line between appreciation and theft. The discussion covers examples ranging from Native American headdresses to Phil Spector's appropriation of classical riffs from Rimsky-Korsakov and Beethoven for his "Wall of Sound."

Keywords: [cultural appropriation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-appropriation.md), [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md), [beyonce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beyonce.md), [phil spector](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phil-spector.md), [classical music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classical-music.md), headdress, [minstrel shows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minstrel-shows.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Minstrel Shows and Reverse Cultural Appropriation (1:33:10–1:37:26)

The history of minstrel shows is identified as a clear example of cultural appropriation where white performers stole black entertainment forms. The conversation also explores "reverse appropriation," such as Prince being influenced by the band Journey, and the complexities of racial dynamics in music.

Keywords: [minstrel shows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minstrel-shows.md), [blackface](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackface.md), al jolson, benny Goodman, [prince](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince.md), journey, reverse appropriation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Privilege and the Politics of Hairstyles (1:37:26–1:41:10)

The Huffington Post argues that cultural appropriation occurs when a privileged culture "borrows" from a marginalized one, specifically citing white celebrities wearing cornrows. The hosts critique this stance, pointing out perceived inconsistencies, such as Beyonce wearing blonde wigs.

Keywords: [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md), cornrows, [beyonce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beyonce.md), [eminem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eminem.md), [privilege](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privilege.md), marginalized cultures, black hair

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Tattoos and Appropriation Cuisine (1:41:12–1:43:57)

The discussion extends to tribal tattoos and "appropriation cuisine," where chefs incorporate techniques from other cultures. The hosts argue that all living cuisines evolve by "stealing" good ideas and mock the extreme political correctness that labels Halloween costumes as inherently racist.

Keywords: maori, [tattoos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tattoos.md), fusion cuisine, appropriation cuisine, [halloween](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/halloween.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Milo Yiannopoulos and Steve Crowder Campus Rants (1:43:58–1:48:18)

At the University of Massachusetts, Milo Yiannopoulos and Steve Crowder confronted student protesters during a talk on political correctness. Crowder's aggressive response to students shouting about "trigger warnings" and "safe spaces" is analyzed as a rehearsed but effective method of handling hecklers.

Keywords: [milo yiannopoulos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milo-yiannopoulos.md), steve crowder, umass, [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), [hecklers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hecklers.md), [gender studies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-studies.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Salah Abdeslam and the Video Game Generation (1:48:18–1:51:00)

The lawyer for Paris attack suspect Salah Abdeslam described his client as having the "intelligence of an empty ashtray," claiming Abdeslam viewed his actions through the lens of a video game. The lawyer noted that Abdeslam's understanding of Islam came from "bits and bobs" found on the internet rather than the Quran.

Keywords: salah abdeslam, [paris attacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris-attacks.md), [quran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quran.md), [video games](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-games.md), liberation, [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/36.md)

### 37. US Purchase of Heavy Water from Iran (1:51:00–1:53:14)

The United States announced the purchase of 35 tons of heavy water from Iran as part of the nuclear deal to reduce Iran's stockpile. This news is juxtaposed with a tangent about being hypnotized by a QVC segment for a Ninja Super Blender.

Keywords: heavy water, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [nuclear deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-deal.md), [plutonium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plutonium.md), [qvc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qvc.md), ninja blender, [rod adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rod-adams.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/37.md)

### 38. No Boots on the Ground Rhetoric Montage (1:53:15–1:56:27)

A montage of clips features President Obama and various administration officials repeatedly promising "no boots on the ground" in Syria and Iraq. The discussion highlights how this phrase has been used thousands of times to reassure the public while military involvement continued to escalate.

Keywords: [boots on the ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military.md), [rhetoric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhetoric.md), [montage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Rear Admiral John Kirby Denies Boots on the Ground Mantra (1:56:29–1:58:37)

State Department spokesperson Rear Admiral John Kirby flatly denied that the administration ever used "no boots on the ground" as a mantra, despite overwhelming video evidence. Kirby's rejection of the premise during a press briefing regarding 250 additional troops for Syria is characterized as a blatant lie.

Keywords: [john kirby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kirby.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [boots on the ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [special forces](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-forces.md), [lying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lying.md), [rhetoric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhetoric.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Defining Boots on the Ground as Large Scale Combat (1:58:38–2:02:36)

Rear Admiral John Kirby attempted to redefine "boots on the ground" as specifically meaning "conventional large-scale ground troops" engaged in coordinated combat. This semantic shift allows the administration to claim they are not breaking their promise while still deploying hundreds of Special Forces to Syria.

Keywords: [john kirby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kirby.md), [boots on the ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md), [special forces](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-forces.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [navy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy.md), [arrogance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arrogance.md), definitions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Colloquial Meanings and Navy Officer Arrogance (2:02:38–2:07:06)

The discussion critiques Kirby's use of the term "colloquial" to dismiss the common understanding of military deployment. An anecdote about the arrogance of Navy officers regarding local pollution laws is used to illustrate the perceived personality traits of high-ranking military spokespeople.

Keywords: [john kirby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kirby.md), colloquial, [navy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy.md), [arrogance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arrogance.md), pollution laws, [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [new speak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-speak.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Listener Meetups and Pre-Spousal Terminology (2:07:08–2:11:21)

Producers recount meeting at Sparks and discuss the "pre-spousal" terminology found in Urban Dictionary. A listener also notes that they replaced the Howard Stern show with No Agenda after Adam Curry's appearance on Stern several years ago.

Keywords: [sparks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sparks.md), [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md), stern, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), pre-spousal, [urban dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-dictionary.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Global Donor Roll Call and Mayday Contributions (2:11:23–2:15:52)

The hosts read a list of donors from various locations including Alberta, Tel Aviv, and London. They encourage listeners to consider monthly subscriptions to support the show's longevity and anonymity.

Keywords: [donors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donors.md), [alberta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alberta.md), [maryland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maryland.md), [tel aviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tel-aviv.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [mayday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayday.md), [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Cheapskate Knighthood of Sir Lunch Money (2:15:54–2:18:53)

Paul Graham is knighted as "Sir Lunch Money of the Boreal Valley" after accumulating over $1,000 in donations through a consistent four-dollar-per-week plan since 2011. This "cheapskate knighthood" serves as proof that long-term small contributions can lead to the highest level of show recognition.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), paul graham, boreal valley, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), ring size

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan Workplace Conflict (2:18:54–2:23:44)

Kelly Ripa's public reaction to Michael Strahan's departure from their morning show is analyzed as a scripted corporate performance regarding "respect in the workplace." The hosts compare the corporate constraints of mainstream media to their own independent "value for value" model.

Keywords: [kelly ripa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kelly-ripa.md), [michael strahan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-strahan.md), live with kelly and michael, workplace respect, [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [show business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-business.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Birthday Wishes and Knighting Ceremony (2:23:45–2:26:04)

The hosts perform a birthday shout-out for a loyal supporter and conduct a formal knighting ceremony on the Amsterdam canals. The ceremony includes the traditional "hookers and blow" and "fembots" litany associated with the show's lore.

Keywords: [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md), astral travel, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/46.md)

### 47. International Data Roaming and LGBT Travel Warnings (2:26:05–2:29:23)

The high cost of international data roaming is discussed alongside a UK travel warning issued for LGBT travelers visiting Mississippi and North Carolina. The hosts reflect on their 2008 theory that political debates would increasingly center on gay rights issues.

Keywords: [mifi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mifi.md), [verizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verizon.md), [data roaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-roaming.md), [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), [mississippi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mississippi.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), [travel warning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-warning.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/47.md)

### 48. German Airline Strikes and Union Demands (2:29:24–2:31:23)

A "warning strike" by the German union Verdi caused the cancellation of nearly 900 Lufthansa flights, affecting 87,000 passengers. The union is demanding a 6% pay increase, rejecting a 3% offer, amid broader concerns about the "Energiewende" and economic austerity in Germany.

Keywords: [lufthansa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lufthansa.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strikes.md), verdi, [munich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/munich.md), [frankfurt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frankfurt.md), [unions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Austrian Asylum Restrictions and Brenner Pass Border (2:31:23–2:35:27)

The Austrian parliament passed legislation allowing for a state of emergency to clamp down on asylum claims, potentially leading to a fence at the Brenner Pass border with Italy. Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi criticized the move as being against European logic and trade interests.

Keywords: [austria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austria.md), [asylum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asylum.md), brenner pass, [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [migrants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migrants.md), [matteo renzi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matteo-renzi.md), [state of emergency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-of-emergency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Tom Hartmann Theory on Conservative Rule and Suicides (2:35:27–2:38:47)

Radio host Tom Hartmann cited a study suggesting that suicide rates increase under conservative rule, blaming Republicans for a surge in US suicides. The hosts mock Hartmann's analysis and his frequent promotion of "Super Beets" supplements on his program.

Keywords: [tom hartmann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-hartmann.md), [suicide rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-rates.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [conservatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conservatives.md), super beets

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Military Draft and Social Comfort Zones (2:38:47–2:41:31)

A continuation of the Tom Hartmann segment explores his views on the military draft as a way to move people out of their comfort zones. Hartmann reiterates his claim that 35,000 people would still be alive if conservatives had not been in power in the 20th century.

Keywords: [military draft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-draft.md), comfort zones, [tom hartmann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-hartmann.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [labor party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-party.md), [suicide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Upton Sinclair Quote Correction and Show Outro (2:41:31–2:47:25)

The show concludes with a correction of a misquoted Upton Sinclair line regarding salary and understanding. Final clips touch on climate change, carbon fees, and the use of two-dollar bills before the hosts sign off from Amsterdam.

Keywords: [upton sinclair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/upton-sinclair.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [carbon fee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-fee.md), [techno experts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/techno-experts.md), two dollar bill, [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/820-pre-spousal/chapter/52.md)

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