# Naked Vegans in Cages

> Taxpayer billions flow to AIG counterparties while global leaders prepare a new IMF currency and naked PETA activists target celebrity chefs in the streets of London.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 81
- **Published:** 2009-03-19
- **Length:** 1h 35m
- **Topics:** AIG Scandal, IMF Currency, Fed Audit, [Bird Flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), PETA Protest, ACTA Treaty
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages

## About this episode

The $170 million AIG bonus scandal serves as a calculated distraction from billions in taxpayer funds flowing to counterparties like Goldman Sachs and Elliot Spitzer's former targets. Senator Chris Dodd and President Barack Obama emerge as top recipients of AIG-linked political contributions, raising questions about the Democratic National Committee's role in bypassing donation limits. Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve begins a massive purchase of U.S. Treasuries to stabilize a deflationary market, a move critics argue will trigger long-term economic instability.

Global financial shifts accelerate as the G20 summit in London prepares to formalize Special Drawing Rights through the IMF, effectively creating a $750 billion global currency. In the domestic market, Bethany Holdings Group abandoned a 320-unit apartment complex in Arizona, signaling a collapse in commercial real estate. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and President Obama launched a coordinated media blitz on 60 Minutes and The Tonight Show to calm public anxiety. Simultaneously, Baxter International faces scrutiny for contaminating seasonal flu vaccines with live H5N1 bird flu virus, while Congressman Ron Paul gains 28 co-sponsors for HR 1207 to audit the Federal Reserve.

Cultural oddities punctuate the broadcast as PETA activists place naked women in cages to protest celebrity chef Jamie Oliver. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak detail the technical automation of the No Agenda Stream using TTYtter scripts and Mac system voices. The duo also recounts the awkward St. Patrick's Day teleprompter glitch where Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen accidentally read President Obama's speech to the White House press pool.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Introduction, Audio vs Video Podcasting (0:02–2:20)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the March 19, 2009, broadcast from London and Silicon Valley. They discuss the merits of audio-only broadcasting versus video streaming, concluding that video ruins the intimate feel of the medium. Despite listener requests for a video feed, they agree to remain audio-only to maintain the "beauty of radio."

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), audio streaming

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/1.md)

### 2. NoAgendaStream.com Automation, TTYtter and Twitter Integration (2:20–10:41)

Adam Curry describes his recent work using the TTYtter script and command line tools to automate the NoAgendaStream.com 24-7 audio feed. The system follows specific Twitter accounts, converts headlines to speech using Mac built-in voices, and inserts them into a music rotation. Curry references KPOP, an early automated radio station in Santa Monica, as inspiration for this community-of-interest project.

Keywords: ttytter, [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [command line](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/command-line.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), kpop santa monica

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/2.md)

### 3. AIG Bonus Scandal, Goldman Sachs and Elliot Spitzer (10:42–15:26)

The discussion shifts to the $170 million AIG bonus scandal, which is characterized as a distraction from billions in taxpayer funds flowing through AIG to counterparties like Goldman Sachs. Former New York Governor Elliot Spitzer is cited for his analysis of how AIG functioned as an insurance conduit for bad money deals. Questions are raised regarding why the U.S. government only owns 80% of the company rather than full nationalization.

Keywords: [aig](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aig.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [elliot spitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elliot-spitzer.md), [bonuses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bonuses.md), [credit default swaps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-default-swaps.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Political Contributions, Chris Dodd and Barack Obama (15:26–19:36)

A list of political contributions from AIG reveals that Senator Chris Dodd and President Barack Obama were top recipients of company funds. The hosts examine how organizations like the Democratic National Committee act as middlemen to bypass individual donation limits. Chris Dodd is specifically criticized for his role in approving executive bonuses while receiving over $100,000 from the firm.

Keywords: [chris dodd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-dodd.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [campaign finance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-finance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Jon Stewart, Larry Leibowitz and The Daily Show (19:37–23:14)

Jon Stewart's recent criticism of Jim Cramer is linked to his brother, Larry Leibowitz, who serves as an executive at the New York Stock Exchange. The hosts suggest Stewart's aggressive stance on the financial crisis may be personal due to his brother's position in the industry. They also discuss the post-production techniques used by The Daily Show to make interview subjects appear foolish.

Keywords: [jon stewart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jon-stewart.md), larry leibowitz, [jim kramer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jim-kramer.md), [samantha bee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samantha-bee.md), [nyse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nyse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Commercial Real Estate Bubble, Arizona Apartment Abandonment (23:16–25:32)

The commercial real estate market shows signs of collapse as Bethany Holdings Group reportedly abandoned a 320-unit apartment complex in Arizona. Residents are left with "green pools" and unpaid utility bills as the management company ceased operations. This event is highlighted as the beginning of a broader trend in the popping of the real estate bubble.

Keywords: [commercial real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commercial-real-estate.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), bethany holdings group, green pooling, [foreclosure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreclosure.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Federal Reserve Treasury Purchases, Deflation vs Inflation (25:34–27:21)

The Federal Reserve's decision to buy U.S. Treasuries is analyzed as a move to stabilize the market by printing money during a deflationary period. While one host views this as a necessary stabilization effort, the other argues that creating trillions in new currency is unsustainable and will lead to long-term economic instability.

Keywords: [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [treasuries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasuries.md), [deflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deflation.md), printing money, [s&p 500](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/s-p-500.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/7.md)

### 8. G20 Summit, IMF Special Drawing Rights (27:21–28:50)

The upcoming G20 summit in London is expected to formalize the use of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) through the IMF. This move is described as the creation of a new global currency totaling $750 billion. The hosts argue this system allows the IMF to exert control over sovereign nations that borrow under these terms.

Keywords: [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [sdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sdr.md), [tim geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-geithner.md), [global currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-currency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Ben Bernanke 60 Minutes Interview, Public Relations Push (28:51–30:23)

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's appearance on 60 Minutes is critiqued for its visual presentation and perceived nervousness. The hosts view this, along with President Obama's scheduled appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, as a coordinated public relations campaign to calm the public regarding the economy.

Keywords: [ben bernanke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-bernanke.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [jay leno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-leno.md), [tonight show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tonight-show.md), [public relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-relations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Barney Frank, Pink Ladies and Congressional Hearings (30:23–33:38)

During a banking committee hearing, protesters known as the "Pink Ladies" were ordered to remove signs calling for the firing of Tim Geithner. Representative Barney Frank is criticized for his handling of the hearing and his past personal scandals. The hosts argue that figures like Frank and Chris Dodd are using public anger toward AIG to deflect from their own legislative failures.

Keywords: [barney frank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barney-frank.md), pink ladies, [code pink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/code-pink.md), [tim geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-geithner.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Celebrity Chefs, Marco Pierre White and Food Poisoning (33:39–36:54)

The hosts discuss the new NBC show "Chopping Block" featuring chef Marco Pierre White, comparing him unfavorably to Gordon Ramsay. They also mention a massive food poisoning incident at Heston Blumenthal's Michelin-starred restaurant, The Fat Duck, where 400 people fell ill. The segment concludes with a critique of "hoity-toity" 18-course menus in favor of simpler dining.

Keywords: marco pierre white, [gordon ramsay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gordon-ramsay.md), heston blumenthal, fat duck, [food poisoning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-poisoning.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Brian Cowen Teleprompter Error, St. Patrick's Day (36:55–38:57)

Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen accidentally read President Obama's speech from a teleprompter during a St. Patrick's Day event at the White House. When Obama took the podium, he ended up reading a script that thanked himself. The hosts note that video of the incident has been difficult to find due to restrictions by news pool organizations.

Keywords: brian cowen, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [st. patrick's day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-patrick-s-day.md), pool reporter

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/12.md)

### 13. PETA Protests, Jamie Oliver and Naked Activism (39:57–42:06)

Animal rights activists from PETA targeted celebrity chef Jamie Oliver with a protest involving naked women in cages. The hosts comment on the unusual nature of the protest and the specific imagery used by the activists to draw attention to their cause.

Keywords: [peta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peta.md), [jamie oliver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamie-oliver.md), [animal rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-rights.md), [activism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/activism.md), [veganism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veganism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/13.md)

### 14. No Agenda Producer Donations, $420.09 Contribution (42:06–48:17)

The hosts read a list of "producers" who contributed $50 or $100 to support the show's move to a twice-weekly schedule. A notable donation of $420.09 from a listener at VegasUndressed.com is discussed, with the hosts explaining the cultural significance of the number 420 to those unfamiliar with it.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), vegasundressed, [mimi dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi-dvorak.md), marijuana culture

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Iridium Satellite Collision, Space Debris Discrepancies (48:18–50:47)

A listener email suggests that the reported collision between an Iridium satellite and a Russian satellite was misreported by the media. While news outlets claimed the event created massive amounts of dangerous space debris, the source claims it was a "glancing blow" with minimal impact. The hosts question why the story was sensationalized if no major explosion occurred.

Keywords: [iridium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iridium.md), [satellite collision](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellite-collision.md), [space debris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-debris.md), [darth vader](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darth-vader.md), [space war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-war.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Afghanistan Opium Production, Hamid Karzai (50:48–53:44)

Global opium production is reported at an all-time high, with a significant influx of heroin reaching Australia from Afghanistan. The hosts discuss claims that the military mission in Afghanistan is partly intended to protect poppy fields. They also reference local sources identifying President Hamid Karzai as a major figure in the drug trade.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [opium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opium.md), [heroin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heroin.md), [hamid karzai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamid-karzai.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Patriot Missile Efficacy, Gulf War Reporting (53:45–55:20)

Reflecting on the first Iraq War, the hosts discuss the discrepancy between official reports of Patriot missile success and the reality on the ground in Israel. While the U.S. government claimed the missiles were effective at intercepting Scuds, local accounts and later investigations revealed they rarely hit their targets.

Keywords: [patriot missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-missiles.md), scud stud, [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [gulf war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gulf-war.md), [military technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-technology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Newspaper Industry Decline, Joint Operating Agreements (55:21–57:55)

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer's move to end its print edition prompts a discussion on the long-term decline of the newspaper industry. The hosts trace the struggle back to the Nixon era and the implementation of Joint Operating Agreements (JOAs). They argue that while the internet hurt classified ad revenue, the decline began decades ago due to competition from television and poor editorial choices.

Keywords: [seattle post-intelligencer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle-post-intelligencer.md), [nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nixon.md), joint operating agreements, [classified ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classified-ads.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/18.md)

### 19. US-Israel Relations, Rahm Emanuel and Geopolitics (57:56–1:02:43)

The hosts explore the "special relationship" between the United States and Israel, questioning its historical origins and current influence. They discuss the presence of individuals with ties to Israel within the U.S. government and financial sectors. The conversation touches on whether Israel serves as a buffer state for U.S. oil interests or if the relationship has become inverted.

Keywords: [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [larry silverstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-silverstein.md), [middle east](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-east.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Climate Change, Copenhagen Summit and Carbon Taxes (1:02:44–1:08:16)

The upcoming climate summit in Copenhagen is framed as a push for a global carbon tax and cap-and-trade system. The hosts criticize the UN IPCC and environmental writers like George Monbiot for using "propaganda" and alarmist predictions regarding sea levels and ice caps. They highlight a lack of media coverage for dissenting voices, such as the President of the Czech Republic.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [copenhagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copenhagen.md), [carbon tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-tax.md), [ipcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipcc.md), [george monbiot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-monbiot.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Baxter International, Bird Flu Vaccine Controversy (1:08:16–1:09:35)

Baxter International is under scrutiny for accidentally mixing live bird flu virus (H5N1) with seasonal flu vaccines. The hosts suggest that such incidents are underreported and question the motives of a company that holds significant contracts for the very vaccines needed to treat the virus they allegedly distributed.

Keywords: [baxter international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baxter-international.md), [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [h5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/21.md)

### 22. HPV Vaccines, Hay Fever Injections and Medicalization (1:09:36–1:12:27)

A report by Katie Couric on HPV vaccine side effects is discussed alongside news of a new "vaccine" for hay fever. The hosts argue that the term "vaccine" is being misapplied to therapies that trigger immune responses rather than curing viral diseases. They express skepticism about the increasing number of mandatory injections for common ailments.

Keywords: [hpv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md), [katie couric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/katie-couric.md), hay fever, [immune response](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immune-response.md), [mercury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercury.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Ron Paul, Federal Reserve Audit and Missouri Terrorist Memo (1:12:27–1:16:54)

Congressman Ron Paul's bill to audit the Federal Reserve (HR 1207) has gained 28 co-sponsors. Simultaneously, a Missouri law enforcement memo is criticized for labeling supporters of third-party candidates like Ron Paul as potential domestic terrorists. The hosts also discuss the illegal deployment of troops in Alabama following a shooting incident.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [missouri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missouri.md), [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md), [militia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/militia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Australian Internet Censorship, Wikileaks Blacklist (1:16:55–1:19:31)

Wikileaks published a secret Australian government blacklist of banned websites, which includes poker sites, Wikipedia pages, and even a local dentist's website. The hosts discuss the futility of internet filtering and the potential for citizens to create mesh networks or use proxies to bypass government controls.

Keywords: [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [blacklist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blacklist.md), [internet filtering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-filtering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/24.md)

### 25. ACTA Treaty, Intellectual Property and Monsanto (1:20:31–1:23:58)

The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) is described as a secret global intellectual property treaty involving major corporations like Monsanto, Time Warner, and Cisco. The hosts warn that the agreement could lead to the patenting of food supplies and life-saving medicines, effectively creating a "subscription service" for basic necessities.

Keywords: [acta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/acta.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [intellectual property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [time warner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-warner.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Anne-Sophie Pic, Fresh Fish and The Simpsons (1:24:04–1:27:57)

The hosts discuss French chef Anne-Sophie Pic winning three Michelin stars and share an anecdote about buying fresh fish door-to-door in London. This leads to a story about "Blinky," the three-eyed fish from The Simpsons, which was reportedly removed from the show after pressure from nuclear regulatory agencies.

Keywords: anne-sophie pic, [michelin stars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelin-stars.md), dover sole, [the simpsons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-simpsons.md), blinky the fish

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/26.md)

### 27. London Police Raid Fail, Amsterdam Queens Day (1:27:58–1:30:16)

A massive police raid in London involving 80 officers and a helicopter failed because the suspect was already in custody on a minor charge. The hosts also discuss their plans to meet in Amsterdam for Queens Day at the end of April, despite potential scheduling conflicts with board meetings.

Keywords: [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [police raid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-raid.md), [keystone cops](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keystone-cops.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [queens day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queens-day.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Bill Gates Quote, Twitter as Command Line, Outro (1:30:28–1:35:11)

The show concludes with a discussion of the famous "640k" quote attributed to Bill Gates and a humorous conspiracy theory linking him to Marilyn Monroe. Adam Curry reiterates his belief that Twitter is the "new command line" for controlling the world in 140 characters. The hosts encourage listeners to tell a friend about the show and support the "value-for-value" model.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), 640k, [marilyn monroe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marilyn-monroe.md), [bobby kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bobby-kennedy.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/81-naked-vegans-in-cages/chapter/28.md)

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