# Evidence Free Zone

> Establishment Republicans launch a last-ditch effort to derail the Trump campaign as the FBI warns of a digital dark age in the battle over iPhone encryption.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 804
- **Published:** 2016-03-03
- **Length:** 2h 47m
- **Topics:** Trump fraud, iPhone encryption, [Super predators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-predators.md), Warrant-proof, [Southern Strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-strategy.md), Airstream flaw
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone

## About this episode

Mitt Romney and the Republican establishment launched a desperate offensive against Donald Trump this week, with the former nominee branding the frontrunner a phony and a fraud. The high-stakes speech in Utah coincided with Marco Rubio adopting a crude comedic persona to attack Trump's physical appearance, while rumors circulate regarding Rubio's reliance on performance-enhancing substances during debates. This coordinated effort by the GOP elite highlights a party in crisis as voter turnout surges for Republicans while Democratic participation continues to crater.

FBI Director James Comey testified before Congress regarding the San Bernardino iPhone, warning of warrant-proof places that hinder law enforcement. Representative Darrell Issa challenged Comey on the technical feasibility of cloning non-volatile memory, while John McAfee claimed a hardware engineer could bypass the Secure Enclave in thirty minutes. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton faced backlash from Black Lives Matter activists over her 1996 super predator remarks, and CNN commentator Van Jones engaged in a viral debate with Jeffrey Lord over the historical ties between the KKK and the Democratic Party.

Sir Edward of Bridgewater shares a surreal Xanax-induced dream involving Jerry Hall, while the hosts identify a critical design flaw in Airstream trailers that complicates bathroom hygiene. The show explores the grayness of modern socialist aesthetics compared to the vibrant car colors of the 1950s, and a trademark dispute at Yosemite National Park forces the renaming of the historic Ahwahnee Hotel. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the media scripting behind the latest racial narratives from the Crackpot Condo.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/transcript.md.

### 1. Fayetteville and Van Buren Trip, Arkansas Cannabis Research (0:00–2:05)

The hosts recount a recent trip to Fayetteville, Arkansas, and a stop in Van Buren on the drive back to Austin. They discuss the local culture, the quality of regional cannabis which they jokingly refer to as "research," and the history of hemp growing in the area.

Keywords: [fayetteville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fayetteville.md), van buren, [arkansas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arkansas.md), [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md), [hemp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hemp.md), [road trip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/road-trip.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Van Buren Victorian Architecture, RV Park Cable Issues (2:06–4:44)

A visit to the historic town center of Van Buren is described as bittersweet due to the conversion of 1880s Victorian buildings into modern shops. One host details staying at an Austin RV park famously used by Matthew McConaughey, noting a dispute where Time Warner Cable refused to provide cable boxes to the facility.

Keywords: van buren, [victorian architecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victorian-architecture.md), rv park, [time warner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-warner.md), [matthew mcconaughey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matthew-mcconaughey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Airstream Trailer Design Flaw, HVAC Vent Placement (4:45–6:27)

A specific design flaw in American-made Airstream trailers is identified regarding the placement of the heating and cooling vents in the bathroom. The vent grate is positioned higher than the toilet seat, creating a crosswind that complicates hygiene for male users.

Keywords: [airstream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airstream.md), design flaw, [hvac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hvac.md), [plumbing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plumbing.md), trailer life

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Crisis Management Theory, Toyota vs General Motors (6:28–8:05)

A crisis management expert's article in the Huffington Post suggests that Donald Trump's success stems from low public expectations. The theory compares this to the automotive industry, where Toyota suffered more from safety scandals than General Motors because consumers held higher expectations for Toyota's brand quality.

Keywords: [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md), [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), [general motors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-motors.md), [crisis management](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crisis-management.md), brand expectation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Gary Johnson Campaign, Political Consultants and Authenticity (8:06–10:51)

The Gary Johnson camp is reportedly eyeing a third-party play similar to the rise of the Republican Party in 1856. The discussion highlights how political consultants often strip candidates of their natural charisma, citing Walter Mondale's post-defeat personality shift as a primary example.

Keywords: [gary johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gary-johnson.md), [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md), whig party, [walter mondale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walter-mondale.md), [political consultants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-consultants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/5.md)

### 6. John Kasich Reputation, Elon Musk and John McCain (10:51–13:35)

A Washington insider claims that Governor John Kasich is difficult to work with in private despite his pleasant television persona. Additionally, Senator John McCain is accused of being overly influenced by Elon Musk and SpaceX in an effort to end U.S. reliance on Russian rocket engines.

Keywords: [john kasich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kasich.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [spacex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spacex.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/6.md)

### 7. 88th Academy Awards, Chris Rock and Credit Crawl (13:40–17:47)

The 88th Academy Awards are criticized for low ratings and a repetitive opening monologue by Chris Rock regarding diversity. A technical change is noted where the show implemented a scrolling "thank you" crawl for winners to ensure the broadcast ended on time with a full credit roll.

Keywords: [academy awards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/academy-awards.md), [oscars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oscars.md), [chris rock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-rock.md), [television ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-ratings.md), [credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credits.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Mitt Romney Anti-Trump Speech, Republican Strategy (17:48–24:11)

Mitt Romney delivered a high-profile speech denouncing Donald Trump as a "phony" and a "fraud" while urging voters to support Marco Rubio or John Kasich to block Trump's nomination. The hosts analyze this as a "too little, too late" effort by the GOP establishment to reclaim control of the party.

Keywords: [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [john kasich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kasich.md), gop strategy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Marco Rubio Performance, Medication Rumors and Comedy (24:12–29:44)

Senator Marco Rubio's recent shift toward aggressive stand-up comedy and insults regarding Donald Trump's physical appearance is examined. Speculation is raised regarding Rubio's frequent use of what appear to be breath mints or pills, with the hosts jokingly suggesting he may be using performance-enhancing substances for his debate sets.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [adderall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adderall.md), [stand-up comedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stand-up-comedy.md), [trump university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-university.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Voter Turnout Trends, Sally Kohn Nazi Germany Comparison (29:45–35:12)

CNN pundit Sally Kohn is criticized for comparing the potential election of Donald Trump to the rise of Nazi Germany. The discussion also notes a significant disparity in voter turnout, with Republican participation surging while Democratic turnout has decreased compared to 2008 levels.

Keywords: [sally kohn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sally-kohn.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [voter turnout](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-turnout.md), [nazi germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nazi-germany.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Melania Trump Interview, Anderson Cooper and Campaign Language (35:13–37:21)

Melania Trump's interview with Anderson Cooper is reviewed, highlighting her description of her independent relationship with Donald Trump. She addresses her husband's use of controversial language on the campaign trail, specifically mentioning the "pussy" comment incident in New Hampshire.

Keywords: [melania trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melania-trump.md), [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [campaign trail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-trail.md), pussy comment

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Caitlyn Jenner Republican Politics, Transgender Issues (37:23–38:52)

Caitlyn Jenner's continued support for the Republican Party is discussed in the context of her reality show. The segment notes the friction this causes within the transgender community, as Jenner acknowledges that Democrats generally have a better record on trans-specific issues.

Keywords: [caitlyn jenner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caitlyn-jenner.md), [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md), [transgender rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transgender-rights.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/12.md)

### 13. New York Times Off-the-Record Meeting, Trump Leak (38:53–42:17)

A controversy involving an off-the-record meeting between Donald Trump and the New York Times editorial board is analyzed. Reports suggest Trump may have indicated his immigration stances are negotiable, leading Joe Scarborough to call for the removal of Times reporters from the campaign plane due to the breach of confidentiality.

Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [journalism ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism-ethics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/13.md)

### 14. MSNBC Diversity Coverage, Trump Supporter Interview (42:18–46:10)

MSNBC's coverage of race and Donald Trump is mocked after a live segment backfired. A reporter attempting to find racist sentiment at a Trump rally instead interviewed an African American supporter who called for an end to racial division, forcing the anchor to pivot back to the studio.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [race relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/race-relations.md), [kkk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kkk.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Hillary Clinton Super Predator Comments, Black Lives Matter (46:12–49:25)

Hillary Clinton faced confrontations from Black Lives Matter activists regarding her 1996 "super predator" comments and the impact of the 1994 crime bill. The discussion explores the undercurrent of dissatisfaction within the black community regarding the Clinton legacy of incarceration.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [super predators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-predators.md), 1996 crime bill, [south carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-carolina.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Van Jones vs Jeffrey Lord, CNN Racial Debate (49:25–54:12)

A heated on-air argument between Van Jones and Jeffrey Lord on CNN is deconstructed. Jones accused Donald Trump of "playing funny" with the KKK, while Lord argued that the Klan was historically a terrorist arm of the Democratic Party, leading to a viral debate on historical revisionism.

Keywords: [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [jeffrey lord](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-lord.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [ku klux klan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ku-klux-klan.md), [david duke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-duke.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Southern Strategy History, Political Party Realignment (54:13–57:52)

The hosts discuss the historical shift of the American South from Democratic to Republican control. They examine the "Southern Strategy" used by Richard Nixon to flip former Dixiecrat strongholds and the long-term impact of this realignment on modern racial politics in the United States.

Keywords: [southern strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-strategy.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md), dixiecrats, [voting rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-rights.md), [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Central Park Five, Van Jones and Colorblind Society (57:53–1:01:50)

Van Jones' criticism of Donald Trump's history with the Central Park Five case is reviewed. The discussion moves to the concept of a "colorblind society," with Jones arguing that Martin Luther King Jr. wanted people to be judged by their character while still acknowledging their cultural and physical differences.

Keywords: [central park five](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-park-five.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [martin luther king jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-luther-king-jr.md), [civics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Trump Foreign Policy, Ben Carson Withdrawal (1:01:51–1:06:47)

Donald Trump's interest in a "detente" with Vladimir Putin is contrasted with the traditional Republican stance on Russia. Meanwhile, Dr. Ben Carson signaled his withdrawal from the race, and Chris Christie faced intense criticism from New Jersey newspapers for his endorsement of Trump.

Keywords: [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [ben carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-carson.md), [meyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meyn-kelly.md), [chris christie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-christie.md), detente

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Don Lemon and Van Jones, Mainstream Media Scripting (1:06:47–1:10:07)

Van Jones and Don Lemon discuss the "cathartic" nature of the recent on-air racial debate. The hosts argue that such moments are rare because mainstream media is typically over-scripted and controlled, preventing genuine human interaction between commentators.

Keywords: [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), green room, [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Fascism Origins, National Socialism and Colorblindness (1:10:07–1:14:42)

The origins of fascism and its relationship to National Socialism are debated, with the hosts questioning whether the movement was inherently leftist or rightist. The segment concludes with a critique of the term "colorblind," suggesting it is often used disingenuously in modern political discourse.

Keywords: [fascism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fascism.md), national socialism, [adolf hitler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adolf-hitler.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [identity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-politics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Executive Producer Credits, Sir Edward's Xanax Story (1:14:43–1:19:42)

The hosts read a surreal donation note from Sir Edward of Bridgewater involving a Xanax-induced dream about Jerry Hall and Uma Thurman. They also discuss show artwork featuring George Washington in a "Make America Great Again" hat and the irony of Trump merchandise being made in China.

Keywords: [george washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-washington.md), [made in china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/made-in-china.md), [xanax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xanax.md), uma thurman, [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Producer Donations, Kultura Winery Correction (1:19:42–1:22:55)

A correction is issued regarding a previous segment about Kultura Winery; the owner is a lifelong farmer, not a retired NSA employee. The hosts acknowledge various high-tier donations and discuss the logistics of receiving wine shipments from listeners.

Keywords: [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), kultura winery, [red wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-wine.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/23.md)

### 24. No Agenda Jingle, Energy Chime and Gong (1:22:55–1:25:04)

The hosts experiment with a new "energy solo chime" and discuss the audio properties of their signature gong. They address listener complaints about the gong's volume, explaining how its specific frequency interacts with their audio processing equipment.

Keywords: [jingle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingle.md), energy chime, [audio processing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-processing.md), [frequency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frequency.md), donation formula

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Yosemite National Park Landmark Renaming, Aramark Contract (1:25:05–1:28:34)

A major trademark dispute at Yosemite National Park has resulted in the renaming of iconic landmarks like Curry Village and the Ahwahnee Hotel. The outgoing concessionaire, Delaware North, claimed ownership of the names, forcing the National Park Service and new contractor Aramark to implement temporary name changes.

Keywords: [yosemite](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yosemite.md), [curry village](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/curry-village.md), aramark, delaware north, trademark dispute

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/25.md)

### 26. FBI vs Apple, San Bernardino iPhone Case (1:28:35–1:32:05)

A federal judge rejected an FBI request to unlock an iPhone in a Brooklyn drug case, providing a victory for Apple amidst the larger San Bernardino encryption battle. The hosts discuss the "Kabuki theater" of the government's arguments and the FBI's admission that they reset the iCloud password, complicating their own investigation.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [san bernardino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-bernardino.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/26.md)

### 27. John McAfee on iPhone Encryption, Hardware Hacking (1:32:05–1:37:05)

John McAfee appeared on RT with Ed Schultz to explain how the FBI could bypass iPhone security without Apple's help. McAfee claims that a hardware engineer could de-cap the chip, copy the memory, and use a disassembler to find the passcode in approximately half an hour.

Keywords: [john mcafee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mcafee.md), [ed schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ed-schultz.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), hardware engineering, disassembler

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Secure Enclave, Error 53 and Proof of Concept (1:37:06–1:40:14)

The technical limitations of bypassing Apple's "Secure Enclave" are discussed, including the "Error 53" issue that bricks phones if hardware components are tampered with. The hosts suggest that the FBI should demand a proof-of-concept on a non-evidence phone before attempting to crack the San Bernardino device.

Keywords: secure enclave, [error 53](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/error-53.md), [ios 9](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ios-9.md), checksum, [brute force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brute-force.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/28.md)

### 29. James Comey Congressional Testimony, Data at Rest (1:40:15–1:44:03)

FBI Director James Comey testified before Congress regarding the "shadow going dark" due to default encryption. Congressman Jerrold Nadler questioned whether forcing U.S. companies to build backdoors would actually stop bad actors, who could simply use open-source or foreign encryption tools.

Keywords: [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [jerrold nadler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerrold-nadler.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), data at rest, [snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snowden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Darrell Issa Encryption Theory, Non-Volatile Memory (1:44:03–1:48:24)

Congressman Darrell Issa, drawing on his background with Viper car alarms, questioned Director Comey on why the FBI cannot simply clone the iPhone's non-volatile memory to perform infinite brute-force attacks. Comey appeared unprepared for the technical specifics of the inquiry.

Keywords: [darrell issa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darrell-issa.md), viper car alarm, non-volatile memory, [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Government Hacker Recruitment, Security Clearances (1:48:24–1:50:40)

The difficulty of the U.S. government recruiting top-tier hackers is discussed. Many highly competent individuals in the cybersecurity community are disqualified from government service due to past drug use, asocial behavior, or failure to meet rigid security clearance standards.

Keywords: [hackers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hackers.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [security clearance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-clearance.md), asocial, [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Evidence-Free Zones, Trey Gowdy and Public Safety (1:50:42–1:54:54)

Congressman Trey Gowdy introduced the term "evidence-free zones" to describe devices that are completely inaccessible to law enforcement. He argued that while privacy is important, the government has a compelling interest in accessing data to solve crimes like homicides or child abductions.

Keywords: [trey gowdy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trey-gowdy.md), evidence-free zones, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [public safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-safety.md), [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Apple Software Risk, Kidnapping Scenarios (1:54:55–1:57:10)

Congressman Ted Deutch and Director Comey discussed the "slippery slope" of creating specialized software to bypass security. They explored extreme scenarios, such as Apple engineers being kidnapped to force them to write malicious code, as part of the legal debate over "reasonable" security risks.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [ted deutch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-deutch.md), [software updates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-updates.md), [litigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/litigation.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Warrant-Proof Places, Constitutional Search and Seizure (1:57:11–2:00:30)

Director Comey argued that the U.S. is moving toward a society with "warrant-proof places," which he claims is a departure from historical norms. The hosts counter that encrypted hard drives have existed for years and that the current focus on iPhones is a marketing and PR battle.

Keywords: [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [search warrant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-warrant.md), [probable cause](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/probable-cause.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Apple Arms Race Defense, Export Laws (2:00:30–2:02:34)

Apple's legal counsel, Bruce Sewell, described the company as being in an "arms race" with cybercriminals. This framing suggests a potential Second Amendment defense, categorizing encryption as a "weapon" for self-defense, reminiscent of the 1990s legal battles involving Phil Zimmerman and PGP.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md), [arms race](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-race.md), phil zimmerman, encryption export

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Telegram vs Telegraph, Apple App Store Control (2:02:36–2:06:30)

Apple lawyer Bruce Sewell mistakenly referred to the "Telegram" app as "Telegraph" during his testimony while discussing uncrackable communications used by terrorists. The hosts point out that Apple maintains total control over its App Store and could ban such apps if they were truly a threat.

Keywords: [telegram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telegram.md), [telegraph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telegraph.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [app store](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/app-store.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Jim Sensenbrenner Critique, Apple Lobbying Tactics (2:06:31–2:12:26)

Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner criticized Apple for demanding a legislative solution while failing to propose a specific bill for Congress to consider. The hosts interpret Apple's refusal to provide a positive solution as a delay tactic intended to protect their upcoming product launches.

Keywords: [jim sensenbrenner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jim-sensenbrenner.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/37.md)

### 38. iPhone 7 Marketing, Warrant-Proof Phone Strategy (2:12:27–2:16:21)

The hosts speculate that Apple's legal battle is a marketing setup for the iPhone 7 or 8, which may be marketed as the first truly "warrant-proof" device. They suggest Apple could "cooperate" by cracking the older iPhone 5 to prove its obsolescence and drive upgrades to newer, more secure models.

Keywords: [iphone 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-7.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), warrant-proof, [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [public opinion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-opinion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/38.md)

### 39. First and Fifth Amendment Defenses, Compelled Speech (2:16:22–2:20:48)

Apple's primary legal defenses against the FBI involve the First Amendment (arguing that computer code is protected speech) and the Fifth Amendment (arguing against "conscription" or forced labor). The hosts also discuss the history of software patents and their impact on the tech industry.

Keywords: [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [fifth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fifth-amendment.md), compelled speech, software patents, [forced labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forced-labor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Birthday Shoutouts, Baroness Francine Title Change (2:20:50–2:26:09)

The hosts read a series of birthday wishes and donation notes from the "No Agenda" community. Long-time supporter Francine is elevated to the rank of Baroness, and the hosts mock the term "facebaggers" for users of Facebook who do not understand the show's internal terminology.

Keywords: [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), saudi daisy, [facebag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebag.md), [baroness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baroness.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Samantha Power on ISIS, Donald Tusk Migrant Warning (2:26:10–2:29:35)

U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power discusses the risk of ISIS infiltration among European refugees. Simultaneously, EU Council President Donald Tusk issued a blunt warning to potential economic migrants, telling them "do not come to Europe" as the continent struggles with the ongoing crisis.

Keywords: [samantha power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samantha-power.md), [donald tusk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-tusk.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [refugees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refugees.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Brexit Migrant Threats, German View of Trump (2:29:35–2:33:55)

France has warned the UK that a "Brexit" could lead to thousands of migrants being allowed to cross the English Channel. In Germany, Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier criticized Donald Trump's "politics of fear," while reports surfaced of refugees being housed in outbuildings at the former Dachau concentration camp.

Keywords: [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [calais](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calais.md), [dachau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dachau.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), frank-walter steinmeier

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Socialist Grayness, Colorful Cars of the 1950s (2:33:56–2:37:10)

A discussion on the "grayness" of modern society and socialist aesthetics is sparked by a Twitter thread about forgotten cars. The hosts contrast the vibrant, multi-tone color schemes of 1950s American automobiles with the monochromatic white, black, and gray palette of contemporary vehicles.

Keywords: [socialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialism.md), 1950s cars, dodge, [aesthetics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aesthetics.md), color schemes

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Bill O'Reilly Custody Battle, NASA Supersonic Jet (2:37:12–2:39:26)

Fox News host Bill O'Reilly lost residential custody of his children following allegations of domestic violence. In aviation news, NASA awarded Lockheed Martin a $20 million contract to develop a new, "green" supersonic passenger jet intended to succeed the Concorde by 2020.

Keywords: [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [lockheed martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockheed-martin.md), [concorde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concorde.md), supersonic travel

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Google Car Accident, Mosul Dam Risk, Prison Gladiator Fights (2:39:26–2:42:55)

A "clip blitz" covers a Google self-driving car hitting a bus in Mountain View and warnings of a catastrophic failure at Iraq's Mosul Dam. Additionally, three San Francisco Sheriff's deputies were charged with forcing jail inmates into "gladiator-style" fights for entertainment.

Keywords: [google car](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-car.md), [mosul dam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mosul-dam.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), gladiator fights, [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/45.md)

### 46. MH370 and MH17 Updates, Show Outro (2:42:56–2:47:30)

The hosts tease an upcoming report on the connection between new MH370 debris and Dutch Parliament discussions regarding MH17. The show concludes with a mention of meeting the Mayor of Austin and a sign-off from the "Crackpot Condo" as rain returns to Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [mh370](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh370.md), [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [el nino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/el-nino.md), [podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/804-evidence-free-zone/chapter/46.md)

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