# Hispandering > A viral campaign misfire and a suspicious fire in Arkansas frame a week of political maneuvering, pharmaceutical price gouging, and the return of the EMP Commission. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 785 - **Published:** 2015-12-27 - **Length:** 3h 10m - **Topics:** Hispandering, CISA surveillance, NGP VAN, EMP Commission, Star Wars spoilers, OxyContin guidelines - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering ## About this episode The Hillary Clinton campaign faces a sharp backlash following the release of a listicle comparing the candidate to a grandmother, sparking the viral NotMyAbuela hashtag and accusations of blatant hispandering. Critics point to Clinton's history with private prison corporations and the deportation of Central American children as evidence of a disconnect with the voters she aims to court. Meanwhile, an arson investigation is underway at the Bill Clinton Birthplace National Historic Site in Hope, Arkansas, where accelerants and mysterious graffiti featuring the number 55 were discovered. In the wake of a massive data breach, Bernie Sanders fired consultant Josh Uretsky for accessing proprietary Clinton donor data, though questions remain regarding Uretsky's ties to the DNC and NGP VAN. Across the Atlantic, UK Home Secretary Theresa May is pushing new cyber laws that link surveillance powers to the prevention of online trolling, while the BBC reports on police training for Mumbai-style attacks in London. In the United States, President Obama signed a $1.8 trillion omnibus bill that quietly includes the CISA surveillance measure and reinstates the EMP Commission, which warns of a power grid collapse that could claim 90% of the population. Additionally, the CDC faces legal challenges from pharmaceutical-funded groups over proposed OxyContin guidelines, and the failure of Colorado’s healthcare co-op highlights the collapse of public options under the Affordable Care Act. John Dvorak provides a spoiler-heavy review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, questioning the physics of Starkiller Base and the decision to kill off Han Solo. The segment features a reading of an irate listener's chat room message regarding the spoilers, alongside a deconstruction of Irving Berlin's White Christmas as a Beverly Hills parody. Sir Jerry of Saugus is officially knighted during the Value for Value donor segment as the show explores the luxury of private Pullman railroad cars. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/transcript.md. ### 1. North Dakota State Merchandise, Texas Tornadoes, Climate Change Skepticism (0:00–4:59) John Dvorak discusses wearing an officially licensed North Dakota State hoodie, leading to a conversation about the necessity of licensing for collegiate products. Severe weather in Texas is reported, specifically deadly tornadoes in Garland and the greater Dallas area that killed at least eight people. A CBS News report is analyzed where scientists suggest that record warm December temperatures and specific weather events cannot be solely blamed on climate change. Keywords: north dakota state, [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), garland, [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [el nino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/el-nino.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Christmas Gifts, Silver Toothpicks, Hunting Calls (4:59–8:52) The hosts share details of their Christmas celebrations and gifts received during the holiday. One host received martini-making equipment including silver toothpicks for olives, while the other received various sound effect devices. These devices include a buck call for hunting excursions and a mouse chirp, leading to a demonstration of the different pitches and grunts these tools produce. Keywords: [christmas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas.md), [david hasselhoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-hasselhoff.md), [martini](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martini.md), silver toothpick, deer call, affleck [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Clinton Chronicles, Larry Nichols, United Nations Ambitions (8:59–11:29) A discussion of the 1994 documentary The Clinton Chronicles features Larry Nichols, a former associate of the Clintons. Nichols claims that if Hillary Clinton becomes President, the plan involves appointing Bill Clinton as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. This position would allegedly serve as a stepping stone for Bill Clinton to eventually become the Secretary General of the United Nations. Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), larry nichols, clinton chronicles, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [secretary general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-general.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Bill Clinton Birthplace Arson, Angel Number 55 Graffiti (11:30–13:54) Investigators in Hope, Arkansas, are treating a fire at the birthplace of former President Bill Clinton as arson after finding accelerants at the scene. The home, a National Historic Site, was also defaced with graffiti featuring the number 55. Analysis of the number 55 suggests various meanings, ranging from "angel numbers" signifying adventure to a millennial text abbreviation for laughter. Keywords: [hope arkansas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hope-arkansas.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [arson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arson.md), [graffiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/graffiti.md), [angel numbers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angel-numbers.md), 55 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Boys Town Documentary, Private Railroad Car Charters (13:55–19:21) The conversation shifts to vintage documentaries, specifically the "Conspiracy of Silence" regarding Boys Town and similar allegations in Kern County. This transitions into a detailed look at the American Association of Private Railroad Car Owners (APRCO). The hosts explore the luxury of chartering private Pullman cars, which can be attached to passenger trains and feature executive chefs and mahogany interiors. Keywords: [boys town](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boys-town.md), [conspiracy of silence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-of-silence.md), [kern county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kern-county.md), [private rail cars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-rail-cars.md), aprco, pullman [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Hillary Clinton Campaign, Abuela Hashtag, Hispandering (19:23–23:20) The Hillary Clinton campaign faces backlash after posting a listicle titled "Seven ways Hillary Clinton is just like your abuela." Critics on social media used the hashtags NotMeAbuela and NotMyAbuela to denounce what they termed "hispandering." The report highlights Clinton's ties to private prison corporations and her past statements regarding the deportation of Central American children. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), abuela, hispandering, [latinos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/latinos.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Bernie Sanders Data Breach, NGP VAN, Josh Uretsky (23:23–26:14) A data breach involving the Bernie Sanders campaign and the NGP VAN database is examined. Sanders fired a consultant, Josh Uretsky, who allegedly accessed proprietary Clinton campaign donor data when a firewall failed. The discussion notes that Uretsky was recommended by the DNC and NGP VAN, raising suspicions about the connections between the database company and the Clinton campaign. Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), ngp van, josh uretsky, [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [data breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-breach.md), [hacker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacker.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Star Wars The Force Awakens, Movie Review, Spoilers (26:17–32:57) John Dvorak provides a critical review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, noting the excessive amount of running in the film. He praises the performance of Daisy Ridley but criticizes the plot holes and the use of practical effects versus CGI. Despite warnings, Dvorak reveals major spoilers, including the fate of Han Solo and the parentage of the new villain, Kylo Ren. Keywords: [star wars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/star-wars.md), the force awakens, [daisy ridley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daisy-ridley.md), [harrison ford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harrison-ford.md), [jj abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jj-abrams.md), [spoilers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spoilers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Star Wars Plot Details, Character Deaths, Audience Reaction (32:58–40:14) The Star Wars discussion continues with specific plot points regarding Han Solo being killed by his son. Dvorak describes the final lightsaber battle between Rey and Kylo Ren, questioning the logic of the "Starkiller Base" planet-sized weapon. A humorous reading of an angry chat room message follows, where a listener berates the hosts for ruining the movie experience. Keywords: han solo, kylo ren, [princess leia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/princess-leia.md), [daisy ridley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daisy-ridley.md), [lightsaber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lightsaber.md), death star [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Flu Shot Propaganda, NBC News, Gemma Botello Story (40:15–42:59) An NBC News report featuring a Florida family is deconstructed for its use of fear-based messaging to promote flu vaccinations. The story focuses on Gemma Botello, a four-year-old who suffered heart failure due to the flu. The hosts criticize the segment for using the child's illness to shame parents who have not vaccinated their children, calling the reporting "shameless terrorizing." Keywords: [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [flu shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), [vaccination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccination.md), gemma botello, [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Pharmaceutical Price Gouging, Jacobus Pharmaceuticals, FDA Regulations (42:59–47:00) The New York Times and PBS NewsHour report on a pharmaceutical "scam" where companies seek FDA approval for old, public-domain drugs to gain market monopolies. Specifically, a drug for Lambert-Eaton myasthenic syndrome, previously provided for free by Jacobus Pharmaceuticals, is being targeted for a massive price hike. The hosts argue that insurance companies and a lack of government price controls facilitate this exploitation. Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), jacobus, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), lambert-eaton, [drug pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-pricing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Healthcare Co-ops, Affordable Care Act, Obama Administration (47:01–50:52) The failure of healthcare co-ops established under the Affordable Care Act is discussed, with a focus on the Colorado co-op's closure. A clip features a woman expressing anger at President Obama for "abandoning" the co-op program. The hosts suggest that the administration prioritized large insurance companies over the public options, leading to the collapse of more than half of the nationwide co-ops. Keywords: [obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md), healthcare co-ops, [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [insurance companies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-companies.md), [single payer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/single-payer.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/12.md) ### 13. CDC OxyContin Guidelines, Pharmaceutical Lobbying, Wall Street Scams (50:53–54:43) Corruption within the medical industry is highlighted through the CDC's attempt to change guidelines for OxyContin. Four pharmaceutical-funded groups in Washington have filed lawsuits to block these changes. Additionally, the hosts discuss how media reports often protect large pharmaceutical companies by focusing on smaller "scroungers" or minor Wall Street scammers to appear tough on crime. Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [oxycontin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxycontin.md), [pharmaceutical industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md), washington legal foundation, [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/13.md) ### 14. UK Cyber Law, Theresa May, Anti-Trolling Legislation (54:43–1:00:29) UK Home Secretary Theresa May is finalizing a new cyber law that links surveillance powers to the prevention of cyberbullying and trolling. The BBC reports on police training exercises in London designed to respond to Mumbai-style terrorist attacks. The hosts argue that the government is using the pretext of protecting youth from online bullying to justify expanded spying on all citizens' internet connection records. Keywords: [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [cyberbullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyberbullying.md), [trolling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trolling.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Black Lives Matter, Minneapolis Airport Protest, Islamophobia (1:00:30–1:06:01) Black Lives Matter activists in Minnesota shut down sections of the Minneapolis airport and the Mall of America to protest police brutality. The hosts question why "rising Islamophobia" was included in the protest's stated goals. They speculate on a potential merger between the Black Lives Matter movement and Islamic advocacy groups, possibly involving the Nation of Islam. Keywords: [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [minneapolis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minneapolis.md), [mall of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mall-of-america.md), [islamophobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islamophobia.md), [nation of islam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nation-of-islam.md), [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Jalil ibn Amir Aziz Arrest, ISIS Twitter Propaganda (1:06:04–1:12:34) A 19-year-old Pennsylvania man, Jalil ibn Amir Aziz, was arrested by the FBI for allegedly using 57 different Twitter accounts to spread ISIS propaganda. The criminal complaint details his tweets about wanting to travel to the "Islamic State" and his efforts to facilitate travel for others. The hosts debate whether these actions constitute a crime or are protected under the First Amendment as free speech. Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), jalil ibn amir aziz, [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/16.md) ### 17. The Walk Movie, 1970s Customs, Philippe Petit (1:12:34–1:14:59) A discussion of the movie "The Walk" leads to an anecdote about Philippe Petit's 1974 high-wire walk between the Twin Towers. The hosts contrast the relaxed security of the 1970s, where a customs agent allegedly encouraged Petit despite his suspicious gear, with the modern era of immediate arrest and terrorism charges for similar behavior. Keywords: the walk, philippe petit, twin towers, [customs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customs.md), [1970s](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1970s.md), wire walking [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony, Sir Jerry of Saugus (1:15:00–1:21:49) The hosts acknowledge high-value donations from the "No Agenda" community, starting with a significant contribution from Christopher Tremling in Australia. A knighting ceremony is conducted for Gerald Wingenroth, who is dubbed "Sir Jerry of Saugus." The segment includes the reading of donor notes and the selection of honorary titles for new members of the show's "Round Table." Keywords: christopher tremling, [melbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melbourne.md), saugus, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Podcast Production Standards, Live Stream Exclusives, Video Rant (1:21:52–1:26:06) In response to a listener request, the hosts explain why they do not include "pre-stream" banter or outtakes in the final podcast edit, calling such practices "pretentious." They also reiterate their refusal to produce a video version of the show. They criticize the aesthetic of video podcasts, specifically the appearance of hosts wearing large headphones and looking at monitors rather than each other. Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [video](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video.md), pre-stream, [production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Associate Executive Producers, New York Life Advice, The Economist (1:26:10–1:33:23) Donations from Associate Executive Producers are read, including a contribution from a 25-year-old listener who recently moved from Dallas to New York City. The hosts offer brief life advice for living in New York and discuss the declining quality of "The Economist" magazine. Multiple "karma" requests and custom jingles are played for donors from various locations including Georgia and London. Keywords: [san marcos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-marcos.md), [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [the economist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-economist.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Ham Radio, TV Licensing, Jesse Ventura Candidacy (1:33:24–1:38:26) A donor from Maui, Hawaii, prompts a discussion about ham radio and the PSK 31 digital mode. Another donor from the UK mentions the high cost of the annual TV license, which the hosts find exorbitant. The segment also addresses a listener's suggestion regarding a potential 2016 presidential run by Jesse Ventura via the Libertarian Party. Keywords: [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [maui](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maui.md), psk 31, [tv license](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tv-license.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md), [jesse ventura](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jesse-ventura.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Electoral College Theory, TSA Travel Tips, Back Braces (1:38:27–1:43:31) The hosts discuss a theory from the "No Agenda" subreddit regarding Black Lives Matter and the Electoral College. A travel tip is shared suggesting that wearing a back brace can allow a passenger to opt out of the TSA "slave scanner." This leads to a discussion on the changing TSA rules that may now force passengers through scanners regardless of their preference. Keywords: [electoral college](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electoral-college.md), [reddit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reddit.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), back brace, [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), dallas oregon [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Year-End Donations, Ham Radio QSL Cards, PSK 31 (1:43:32–1:52:56) The final round of major year-end donations is processed, featuring listeners from Rochester, San Jose, and Virginia. One host discusses his ham radio setup using FL Digi software and his QSL cards. The segment concludes with a "jobs karma" ritual for a donor in Richmond, Virginia, and a celebration of the "Value for Value" funding model. Keywords: [rochester](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rochester.md), [san jose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-jose.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), qsl card, psk 31, fl digi [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Star Wars Diversity, Gift Giving Strategies, Dennis Goad (1:52:56–1:57:35) The hosts address a listener's comment about the lack of diversity in Star Wars, specifically the role of the black stormtrooper as a "sanitation engineer." John Dvorak shares a personal strategy for holiday gift-giving, suggesting that husbands should sit down with their wives to create a list. A donation from Shilah Brown for her husband Dennis is acknowledged with a "boom shakalaka" jingle. Keywords: [star wars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/star-wars.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), sanitation engineer, [christmas gifts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas-gifts.md), [mimi dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi-dvorak.md), school [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/24.md) ### 25. CAIR Political Strategy, 501c3 Lobbying, Muslim Voting Bloc (1:57:36–2:01:33) A coalition of Muslim organizations, including CAIR, held a press conference regarding their political strategy for the 2016 election. The speakers warned candidates like Donald Trump that "Islamophobia" would carry a political price. The hosts highlight a moment where a representative admits that while their 501c3 organizations cannot endorse candidates, other community organizations will be formed to do so. Keywords: [cair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cair.md), uscmo, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [islamophobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islamophobia.md), [501c3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/501c3.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Obama on Media Ratings, ISIL Savvy, Sloth Comparison (2:01:34–2:06:10) In an interview with NPR's Steve Inskeep, President Obama suggests that ISIL has a "very savvy media operation" that exploits cable news for ratings. The hosts mock the President's slow delivery, comparing him to a sloth from the movie "Zootopia." They criticize his assertion that the media is being "played" by terrorists to amplify their power and recruit young people. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [steve inskeep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-inskeep.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [cable news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cable-news.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/26.md) ### 27. ISIS Organ Harvesting, Reuters Report, Camel Urine Scam (2:06:13–2:11:17) A Reuters report claims that ISIS religious scholars have sanctioned the harvesting of human organs from living captives to save Muslim lives. While the report admits the document cannot be independently verified, it raises fears of organ trafficking. This transitions into a bizarre story from Saudi Arabia where a man was caught selling his own urine as "camel urine" for medicinal and cosmetic use. Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [organ harvesting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/organ-harvesting.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [fatwa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fatwa.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), camel urine [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/27.md) ### 28. European Terror Warnings, Seymour Hersh, Joint Chiefs of Staff (2:11:20–2:15:40) Police in Vienna and other European cities have issued warnings of potential terror attacks based on "friendly intelligence." Meanwhile, a new article by Seymour Hersh in the London Review of Books alleges that the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff under General Dempsey bypassed the White House to provide intelligence to the Syrian government. The goal was reportedly to prevent an ISIS takeover of Syria. Keywords: [vienna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vienna.md), [seymour hersh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seymour-hersh.md), [joint chiefs of staff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joint-chiefs-of-staff.md), [general dempsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-dempsey.md), [assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assad.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Seymour Hersh on Amy Goodman, General Dunford, Saudi Farce (2:15:41–2:20:52) Seymour Hersh appears on "Democracy Now!" to discuss his latest reporting on the Pentagon's internal dissent regarding Syria. He criticizes the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dunford, and Secretary of Defense Ash Carter for following the "party line." Hersh also labels the U.S. alliance with Saudi Arabia and Qatar a "farce" given their roles in funding extremist groups. Keywords: [seymour hersh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seymour-hersh.md), amy gman, [general dunford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-dunford.md), [ash carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ash-carter.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Turkey Cyber Attacks, Erdogan Heroics, Cyprus Peace Talks (2:20:52–2:26:28) Turkey has been hit by a wave of massive cyber attacks targeting banks and government offices, with the group Anonymous claiming responsibility. In a separate event, President Erdogan was filmed "talking down" a suicidal man on the Bosphorus Bridge. Additionally, the leaders of the Greek and Turkish communities in Cyprus have delivered a joint Christmas message, signaling progress in reunification talks. Keywords: [recep tayyip erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recep-tayyip-erdogan.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous.md), [ddos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ddos.md), bosphorus bridge, [cyprus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyprus.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Obama Religious Identity, Daniel Pipes, State Department Human Rights (2:26:29–2:30:02) The hosts discuss long-standing theories regarding President Obama's religious identity, referencing the work of Daniel Pipes. This leads to a report on the State Department inflating the human rights rankings of Oman and Malaysia. These upgrades were allegedly made to facilitate the Iran nuclear deal and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact, despite evidence of forced labor and human trafficking. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [daniel pipes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-pipes.md), [oman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oman.md), [malaysia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaysia.md), [human trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-trafficking.md), [tpp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tpp.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/31.md) ### 32. ISIS Threatens Israel, Zaharan Alloush Death, Chemical Weapons (2:30:02–2:33:40) A new audio message purportedly from ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi threatens Israel for the first time, claiming Palestine will be a "graveyard" for Israelis. In Syria, an airstrike killed Zaharan Alloush, the leader of the Saudi-backed Jaish al-Islam group. While some reports attribute the strike to Russia, local producers claim it was a Syrian Air Force operation. Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), zaharan alloush, jaish al-islam, [damascus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damascus.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Colonel Wilkerson on Syria, Chemical Attacks, EU Visa-Free Travel (2:33:41–2:36:30) Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, expresses skepticism regarding claims that Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons. He suggests the evidence points toward other parties in Syria. Meanwhile, the EU Commission has recommended visa-free travel for citizens of Georgia and Ukraine, a move the hosts suspect is intended to pressure Russia. Keywords: [lawrence wilkerson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lawrence-wilkerson.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md), [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [eu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eu.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Matt Lee vs John Kirby, State Department Briefing, Assad Policy (2:36:30–2:40:36) Associated Press reporter Matt Lee confronts State Department spokesperson John Kirby over the U.S. policy on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Lee points out that the latest UN resolution does not explicitly require Assad to leave power. Kirby struggles to explain the "transition process," leading to a heated exchange about whether the U.S. policy has effectively shifted from "Assad must go" to "Assad stays" for the time being. Keywords: [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [john kirby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kirby.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assad.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Final Donor Credits, Birthday Shoutouts, Global Listenership (2:40:38–2:46:47) The final segment of the show features a rapid-fire reading of donors from around the world, including Stockholm, Zurich, Israel, and Calgary. The hosts provide birthday shoutouts for several listeners and their spouses. They thank the "No Agenda" community for their continued support through the "Value for Value" model, which allows the show to remain independent and ad-free. Keywords: [stockholm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stockholm.md), [zurich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zurich.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [calgary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calgary.md), [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Technical Difficulties, Pilot Licenses, Knighting Ceremony (2:46:48–2:50:26) The hosts deal with minor technical issues regarding microphone levels and "dog biscuits." They discuss the Willamette Valley in Oregon, noting its reputation for Pinot Noir and its history as a location for flight training. A final knighting ceremony is held for the day's top donors, officially welcoming them to the "No Agenda Round Table." Keywords: [sound engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sound-engineering.md), [willamette valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/willamette-valley.md), [pinot noir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pinot-noir.md), [pilot license](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot-license.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/36.md) ### 37. EMP Commission Reinstated, National Security Threats, Cyber Command (2:50:26–2:56:08) The Congressional EMP Commission has been reinstated following the signing of the National Defense Authorization Act. Dr. Vincent Pry warns that a single high-altitude nuclear detonation could collapse the U.S. power grid for a year, potentially killing 90% of the population. The hosts suggest that the commission and the U.S. Cyber Command are fronts for the NSA to secure more government funding through fear-mongering. Keywords: emp commission, vincent pry, [national defense authorization act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-defense-authorization-act.md), [cyber command](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-command.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [blackout](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackout.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Omnibus Spending Bill, CISA Surveillance, Visa Waiver Restrictions (2:56:08–2:57:54) President Obama signed a $1.8 trillion spending bill that includes the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA), a measure critics say expands mass surveillance. The bill also lifts the 40-year ban on exporting U.S. crude oil and introduces new restrictions on the visa waiver program. These restrictions target individuals who have visited Iran, Iraq, Syria, or Sudan since 2011. Keywords: [omnibus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omnibus-bill.md), [cisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisa.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [visa waiver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/visa-waiver.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [crude oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crude-oil.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Techno-Skeptics, Washington Post, Republican Christmas Gifts (2:57:55–3:01:09) A movement of "techno-skeptics" led by Jaron Lanier is gaining attention for protesting planned obsolescence and advocating for a reinvented internet. On the "PBS NewsHour," the "Shields and Brooks" segment is criticized for its lack of genuine conservative representation. The hosts mock a guest from "The Washington Post" who suggested giving Republicans a "lump of coal" for Christmas. Keywords: techno-skeptics, [jaron lanier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jaron-lanier.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), shields and brooks, [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/785-hispandering/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Medical Marijuana Ban, Industrial Hemp, Robert Downey Jr Pardon (3:01:11–3:04:52) Section 538 of the new omnibus bill effectively prevents the Department of Justice from using funds to interfere with state medical marijuana laws. The bill also protects industrial hemp research. In California, Governor Jerry Brown granted a pardon to actor Robert Downey Jr. for past drug and weapon convictions, a move the hosts suspect was influenced by Disney. 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