# Hot Rhetoric

> Political rhetoric reaches a fever pitch as world leaders and tech giants clash over recruitment videos, pageant blunders, and the future of digital encryption.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 784
- **Published:** 2015-12-31
- **Length:** 2h 49m
- **Topics:** [Miss Universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), [Palantir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palantir.md), ISIS rhetoric, [Encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), Schlonged, Vitality Air, Smith-Mundt
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric

## About this episode

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton trade sharp barbs over national security as the 2015 holiday season concludes. Clinton alleges that ISIS is utilizing Trump's rhetoric in recruitment videos, a claim the SITE Intelligence Group and ABC News reporter John Karl find no evidence for. Trump counters by mocking Clinton's primary losses and her debate performance while criticizing the Obama administration's nuclear deal with Iran.

Steve Harvey faces intense scrutiny following the Miss Universe 2015 broadcast error where he mistakenly crowned Miss Colombia instead of Miss Philippines. The production, now owned by William Morris Entertainment, featured contestants answering political questions on U.S. military bases and gun control. Meanwhile, Apple CEO Tim Cook defends the company's encryption policies on 60 Minutes, rejecting government backdoors and dismissing accusations of overseas tax avoidance as political theater.

Carly Fiorina suggests the government utilize Palantir Technologies for data analytics, narrowly avoiding a controversial historical analogy regarding IBM. The episode features a heated art war between producers NickTheRat and PewDiePie, while Sir Fudge Fountain is elevated to the Baron of Ann Arbor during the Christmas Eve knighting ceremony. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the media's selective reporting on East Coast record warmth versus historical 1955 weather data.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/transcript.md.

### 1. Christmas Eve Broadcast, Trump and Putin Promotion (0:00–1:58)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 784 of the No Agenda Show on December 24, 2015. The hosts exchange holiday greetings from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley while addressing chat room comments regarding their coverage of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [christmas eve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas-eve.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Miss Universe 2015, Donald Trump Co-Winner Suggestion (1:59–4:55)

Donald Trump suggests that Miss Universe 2015 should have named co-winners following the live broadcast error where the wrong contestant was crowned. Trump, who recently sold the pageant franchise to William Morris Entertainment, criticizes the handling of the event after host Steve Harvey mistakenly announced Miss Colombia as the winner instead of Miss Philippines.

Keywords: miss universe 2015, [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [colombia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colombia.md), [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), william morris entertainment

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Perez Hilton, Miss Universe Ownership Insult (4:56–7:18)

Perez Hilton, serving as a judge for Miss Universe 2015, delivers a televised insult directed at former owner Donald Trump. The hosts analyze the reaction of the production staff and host Steve Harvey to the comment, suggesting a "curse" began on the production immediately following the slight against the former owner.

Keywords: [perez hilton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perez-hilton.md), [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md), pageant judging

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Pageant Aesthetics, Trump Era vs New Ownership (7:19–9:41)

A comparison of pageant standards under Donald Trump's ownership versus the current management highlights changes in contestant selection and stage behavior. Observations include a shift toward mixed-race contestants, such as Miss France, and a perceived lack of discipline regarding "duckface" expressions and mugging for the camera during the broadcast.

Keywords: [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), miss france, duckface, pageant standards, martinique

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Steve Harvey, Miss Universe Broadcast Errors (9:42–11:18)

Steve Harvey's performance as host of Miss Universe is scrutinized, specifically his failure to read the winner's cue card correctly and his awkward interactions with contestants. An anecdote regarding celebrity pageant judging in Secaucus, New Jersey, featuring Boy George is shared to provide context on the industry.

Keywords: [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md), [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), cue cards, [live television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-television.md), secaucus

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Miss Philippines, US Military Base Question (11:19–12:32)

Miss Philippines, Pia Wurtzbach, answers a political question during the Miss Universe pageant regarding the reopening of United States military bases in her country. She expresses support for the American presence, citing the historical relationship and shared culture resulting from past colonization.

Keywords: miss philippines, pia wurtzbach, us military bases, [colonization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colonization.md), pageant questions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Miss Universe, National Stereotype Questions (12:34–14:05)

The Miss Universe pageant is criticized for tailoring questions to national stereotypes, such as asking Miss Colombia about drug society and Miss Australia about marijuana legalization. The hosts argue that these specific inquiries are reductive and poorly handled by the host.

Keywords: miss colombia, miss australia, [marijuana legalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana-legalization.md), [drug policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-policy.md), pageant questions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Miss USA, Gun Control Response (14:05–17:35)

Miss USA addresses the polarizing issue of gun ownership during the pageant, advocating for stronger regulations and collective safety over individual rights. Host Steve Harvey's enthusiastic endorsement of her answer is compared to past media discussions regarding the Second Amendment and African American perspectives.

Keywords: [miss usa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-usa.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [san bernardino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-bernardino.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md), [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Miss Universe, Final Word Headset Gimmick (17:35–20:41)

The "final word" segment of Miss Universe features contestants wearing headsets while others answer the same question regarding their qualifications for the title. The production quality is criticized from a professional perspective, noting the awkwardness of the segment and the performance of the finalists.

Keywords: [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), [miss usa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-usa.md), [equality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equality.md), [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md), final word

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Steve Harvey, Miss Universe Winner Announcement Blunder (20:42–25:57)

Steve Harvey mistakenly crowns Miss Colombia as Miss Universe 2015 before returning to the stage to apologize and announce Miss Philippines as the actual winner. The segment captures the confusion on stage, the lack of a translator for the contestants, and Harvey's public admission of responsibility for misreading the results card.

Keywords: [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md), [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), miss colombia, miss philippines, live television error

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Fox Broadcast, Miss Universe Ratings and Rehearsals (25:57–29:23)

The Miss Universe broadcast on Fox drew 5.6 million viewers, a figure considered low compared to NFL programming. Speculation arises regarding Steve Harvey's absence from final rehearsals and the missed opportunity for the network to capitalize on the backstage drama following the crowning error.

Keywords: [fox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox.md), [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), nfl overrun, [steve harvey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-harvey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Hillary Clinton, ISIS Recruitment Video Claim (29:23–31:39)

Hillary Clinton claims during a Democratic debate that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump's rhetoric to recruit jihadists. ABC News reporter John Karl notes that the Clinton campaign has provided no direct evidence of such a video existing, despite Clinton doubling down on the assertion.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [john karl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-karl.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), recruitment videos

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Jennifer Palmieri, Hot Rhetoric and Site Intelligence (31:39–35:42)

Hillary Clinton's communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, struggles to defend the "ISIS video" claim, eventually pivoting to say Trump is being used in "social media" propaganda. The discussion involves the role of Rita Katz and the SITE Intelligence Group in monitoring jihadist activity and the lack of a specific video matching Clinton's description.

Keywords: [jennifer palmieri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jennifer-palmieri.md), [rita katz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-katz.md), [site intelligence group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/site-intelligence-group.md), hot rhetoric, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/13.md)

### 14. SITE Intelligence Group, Jihadist Video Authenticity (35:42–38:40)

The authenticity and sourcing of jihadist videos provided by the SITE Intelligence Group are questioned. A specific recruitment video found on a Japanese site is described, which labels Bill Clinton a "fornicator" rather than featuring Donald Trump, contradicting recent political claims.

Keywords: [rita katz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-katz.md), [site intelligence group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/site-intelligence-group.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), jihadist videos, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Hillary Clinton, Bathroom Break and Schlonged Comment (38:40–40:26)

Donald Trump uses the term "schlonged" to describe Hillary Clinton's 2008 primary loss and mocks her late return to a debate stage following a bathroom break. Reports suggest Clinton's delay was caused by the presence of Huma Abedin or another individual in the facility, leading to Trump's "disgusting" characterization of the event.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), bathroom break, schlonged, [elliot spitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elliot-spitzer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/15.md)

### 16. David Brock, Racism Allegations and Trump Rhetoric (40:26–43:46)

David Brock's analysis of Donald Trump's "schlonged" comment is criticized as being inherently racist for its subtextual assumptions. Furthermore, the media narrative that Trump's rhetoric will incite Muslim Americans to violence is characterized as an insult to the intelligence of the Muslim community.

Keywords: [david brock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brock.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [muslim americans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muslim-americans.md), schlonged

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Democracy Now, Trump Hate Speech Coverage (44:41–48:03)

Democracy Now! covers Donald Trump's comments regarding journalists and Vladimir Putin, framing his language as "hate speech." The segment also reviews the Clinton campaign's refusal to respond directly to Trump's "degrading language" while calling for public condemnation of his rhetoric.

Keywords: [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), [jennifer palmieri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jennifer-palmieri.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/17.md)

### 18. George Stephanopoulos, Putin and US Killing Comparison (48:03–51:02)

Donald Trump challenges George Stephanopoulos on ABC regarding allegations that Vladimir Putin kills journalists, noting a lack of proof. Trump further asserts that the United States government is responsible for significant "killing" globally, specifically citing decisions made by Hillary Clinton during her tenure as Secretary of State.

Keywords: [george stephanopoulos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-stephanopoulos.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), ann polanskaya

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Donald Trump, Iran Nuclear Deal and Russia Armaments (51:03–55:30)

Donald Trump criticizes the Iran nuclear deal, claiming the United States effectively handed $150 billion to a "terror nation." He argues that Russia supported the deal because it allowed Iran to purchase "beautiful new" Russian missiles and armaments, enriching Russia at the expense of American interests.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [iran nuclear deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-nuclear-deal.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missiles.md), [george stephanopoulos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-stephanopoulos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Art Wars, NickTheRat vs PewDiePie (55:31–1:00:02)

A conflict emerges within the No Agenda artist community between NickTheRat and a producer using the name PewDiePie. After NickTheRat's "Bernie in the Breach" artwork is featured, PewDiePie submits several "artist tips" and satirical pieces, including a rat in a meat grinder, sparking a discussion on "art wars."

Keywords: [nicktherat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicktherat.md), [pewdiepie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pewdiepie.md), [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), meat grinder

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Donation Segment, Sir Fudge Fountain and NPR (1:00:04–1:03:51)

The hosts acknowledge major donations from Brian Lawson and Sir Fudge Fountain of Ann Arbor. Sir Fudge Fountain's note critiques the current state of NPR, describing it as a "nostalgia machine" that has become unreasonably politicized and unlistenable, specifically mentioning "A Prairie Home Companion" and "Radio Lab."

Keywords: brian lawson, sir fudge fountain, [ann arbor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ann-arbor.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Serial Podcast, NPR Media Strategy (1:03:56–1:06:32)

The success of the "Serial" podcast is analyzed in the context of NPR's broader media strategy. While the show is highly produced and scripted, the hosts argue its popularity stems from a public desire for "calm" long-form content, though they dispute whether it fits the traditional definition of a podcast.

Keywords: [serial podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/serial-podcast.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [jarl mohn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jarl-mohn.md), reliable sources, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Donor Jingle Requests, Knighting Ceremony (1:06:32–1:09:43)

The show features custom jingles from Fletcher and processes knighting requests for producers including Sir Alan Hawes, Knight of the Elongated G-String. The hosts distribute "karma" and play requested sound effects for various donors contributing to the Christmas Eve episode.

Keywords: [fletcher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fletcher.md), sir alan hawes, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [boom shakalaka](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boom-shakalaka.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Birthday Announcements, Associate Executive Producers (1:09:44–1:14:04)

The hosts read birthday announcements for Kristen Kitterman and Sir Ted Hausmann while acknowledging donations from Sir David Ross and others. The segment includes discussion on the "best podcast in the universe" branding and the loyalty of the listener base during the holiday season.

Keywords: kristen kitterman, sir ted hausmann, david ross, [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Trucker Perspectives, Climate Change Sarcasm (1:14:07–1:18:11)

Associate Executive Producers Nick Raimondi and Joel Blazek are thanked for their support. Blazek, a truck driver operating between Reno and Sacramento, shares observations on winter weather and uses a "sarcastic tone" when discussing climate change during his mountain routes.

Keywords: nick raimondi, [joel blazek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joel-blazek.md), [reno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reno.md), [sacramento](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sacramento.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Firefighter Anecdote, Ebola Calypso Song (1:18:19–1:21:02)

Sir Jason, a firefighter and paramedic, shares a graphic anecdote about assisting an elderly patient with incontinence. He notes that singing the "Ebola Calypso" song from the show helped brighten his mood during the difficult call, leading to a request for the original "We Need to Kill Them" and "Ebola" tracks.

Keywords: [sir jason](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-jason.md), [firefighter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefighter.md), paramedic, ebola song, diarrhea

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Smith-Mundt Act, Trevor Merkin Donation (1:21:03–1:22:54)

Trevor Merkin (now Trevor Mundt) sends a donation from France, commenting on the overturning of the Smith-Mundt Act, which previously prohibited domestic propaganda. The hosts also address administrative issues regarding the birthday list for Trevor's son, Oscar.

Keywords: [smith-mundt act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smith-mundt-act.md), trevor merkin, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), oscar, [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Post Office Sloths, UK Producer Meetups (1:22:54–1:25:43)

Armando Guerra, a mail carrier, criticizes Disney's portrayal of post office workers as sloths in recent media. Additionally, a producer from the UK Peak District suggests a potential No Agenda meetup for British listeners and requests "karma" for several international producers.

Keywords: armando guerra, [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), sloths, uk meetup, little girl yay

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Holiday Schedule, No Agenda Formula (1:25:44–1:27:33)

The hosts outline their upcoming broadcast schedule for the Christmas and New Year's weekends. They emphasize that their executive producer credits are legitimate professional credentials and reiterate the show's "formula" of media deconstruction.

Keywords: christmas weekend, [new year's eve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-year-s-eve.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [formula](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formula.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Carly Fiorina, Algorithms and Big Data (1:27:33–1:30:16)

Carly Fiorina, positioned as the "technology candidate," is criticized for her comments regarding the use of algorithms to track terrorists. The hosts mock her understanding of big data, noting that private sector algorithms often fail at simple tasks like targeted advertising despite massive server infrastructure.

Keywords: [carly fiorina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carly-fiorina.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md), [big data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Vivek Kundra, Healthcare.gov Technology Issues (1:30:17–1:31:44)

A review of past comments by former Federal CTO Vivek Kundra highlights the procurement and technology failures of Healthcare.gov. The discussion centers on the government's reliance on "1960s era technology" and "skip logic" in modern administrative systems.

Keywords: [vivek kundra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vivek-kundra.md), [healthcare.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare-gov.md), [skip logic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skip-logic.md), [cobol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cobol.md), [procurement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/procurement.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Carly Fiorina, Palantir and WWII Analogy (1:31:44–1:34:01)

Carly Fiorina mentions the data analytics firm Palantir as a tool the government should utilize more effectively. The hosts suggest Fiorina nearly made a controversial analogy to IBM's role in World War II data processing before stopping herself mid-sentence.

Keywords: [carly fiorina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carly-fiorina.md), [palantir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palantir.md), [ibm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ibm.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [big data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Palantir Technologies, Funding and CIA Ties (1:34:01–1:35:37)

Palantir Technologies reportedly raised $880 million, bringing its valuation to $20 billion. The company's origins with the CIA's venture capital arm, In-Q-Tel, and its rumored role in the mission to locate Osama bin Laden are discussed in light of Carly Fiorina's recent endorsements.

Keywords: [palantir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palantir.md), [in-q-tel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/in-q-tel.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [venture capital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venture-capital.md), [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Tim Cook, 60 Minutes Encryption Interview (1:35:38–1:40:05)

Apple CEO Tim Cook appears on "60 Minutes" with Charlie Rose to discuss the company's stance on encryption. Cook argues against "backdoors" for law enforcement, stating that any vulnerability created for "good guys" would inevitably be exploited by "bad guys," and emphasizes the need to protect personal data on iPhones.

Keywords: [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [backdoors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backdoors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Apple Tax Strategy, Overseas Revenue (1:40:06–1:41:44)

Tim Cook defends Apple's tax practices, calling the accusation that the company avoids taxes on $74 billion in overseas revenue "total political crap." He argues that the current U.S. tax code is an "industrial age" relic that is "backwards" and "awful for America," preventing the repatriation of digital-age profits.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [tax code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-code.md), corporate taxes, [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/35.md)

### 36. China Manufacturing, Vocational Skills Gap (1:41:57–1:44:10)

Tim Cook explains that Apple manufactures in China not because of low wages, but because of a superior "vocational skill" base. He claims that while the U.S. has focused on traditional college education, China has prioritized tool and die making and other manufacturing skills in its educational system.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), vocational skills, [foxconn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foxconn.md), [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Reuters, Millennial Climate Change Poll (1:44:11–1:46:47)

A Reuters report by "millennial" journalists claims that Republicans are changing their minds about climate change following the Paris Deal. The hosts criticize the report's methodology, noting it only accounts for Republicans who were already aware of the specific agreement, and mock the "indoctrination" of the young reporters.

Keywords: [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), paris deal, [james inhofe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-inhofe.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Record Warmth, Historical Weather Comparisons (1:46:47–1:48:37)

The media's focus on record warm temperatures on the East Coast is countered by historical data from Christmas Eve 1955, when temperatures reached 86 degrees in Orlando. The hosts argue that current weather patterns are being selectively reported to support global warming narratives while ignoring cold and rainy conditions in the West.

Keywords: [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [orlando](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/orlando.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [weather history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-history.md), 1955

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/38.md)

### 39. ISIS Christmas Message, Buckingham Palace Threat (1:48:38–1:50:26)

A video purportedly from ISIS delivers a Christmas message threatening the United States, Britain, and Australia. The speakers claim they will not stop fighting until the "black flag" flies over Buckingham Palace and the White House, attributing their military persistence to divine support.

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), christmas message, [obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama.md), [buckingham palace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buckingham-palace.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Millennial Slang, Jack Move Definition (1:50:32–1:52:36)

A discussion on millennial slang reveals that several young acquaintances of the hosts have never heard the term "jack move." This leads to a debate about the origins of the phrase and the disconnect between different generations of "millennials."

Keywords: [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), jack move, [slang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slang.md), [social observation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-observation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/40.md)

### 41. The Real, Mirror Kissing Segment (1:52:37–1:55:10)

The daytime talk show "The Real" is criticized for a segment where a hostess was challenged to "passionately" kiss a handheld mirror. The hosts mock the absurdity of the competition and the high-energy reactions of the show's cast to the "dopey" task.

Keywords: [the real](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-real.md), [talk shows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/talk-shows.md), mirror kissing, [competition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/competition.md), [daytime tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daytime-tv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Alanis Morissette, The Talk Performance (1:55:11–1:57:58)

Alanis Morissette appears on "The Talk" to promote the 20th anniversary of her album "Jagged Little Pill." The hosts review a clip of her performance, suggesting she went "off the rails" and "off key" while still receiving enthusiastic applause from the middle-aged female audience.

Keywords: [alanis morissette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alanis-morissette.md), [the talk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-talk.md), jagged little pill, [sharon osbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sharon-osbourne.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Autonomous Cars, 2015 Industry Review (1:57:59–1:59:34)

A review of the autonomous car industry in 2015 highlights Tesla's "Autopilot" system and testing by Google in Austin and Mountain View. Looking toward 2016, the report mentions potential Apple car rumors and the upcoming unveiling of a prototype by the mysterious company Faraday Future.

Keywords: autonomous cars, [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [autopilot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autopilot.md), faraday future, [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Roko's Basilisk, AI Thought Experiment (1:59:34–2:03:45)

The concept of "Roko's Basilisk" is explored, a thought experiment suggesting that a future super-intelligent AI might retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence. The discussion links the theory to the incentives of capitalism and the potential for AI to be an "alien mental illness" from outer space.

Keywords: roko's basilisk, [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [capitalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitalism.md), thought experiment, [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Hello Barbie, Smart Toy Privacy Risks (2:03:46–2:05:17)

"Hello Barbie" and other "smart toys" are identified as significant privacy risks due to their reliance on cloud servers to process children's conversations. Security experts warn that these devices can be hacked, potentially exposing family data and allowing unauthorized access to the home environment.

Keywords: hello barbie, smart toys, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), cloud servers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Washington State, Inmate Release Glitch (2:05:18–2:07:39)

A computer coding error in Washington State's Department of Corrections led to the early release of over 3,000 inmates since 2002. Governor Jay Inslee described the 13-year-old glitch as "unforgivable," noting that the problem was only addressed after a victim's family performed their own sentencing calculations.

Keywords: [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), department of corrections, inmate release, [computer glitch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-glitch.md), [jay inslee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-inslee.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Yale University, First Amendment Repeal Petition (2:08:23–2:10:53)

Prankster Ami Horowitz successfully gathers over 50 signatures from Yale University students on a petition to repeal the First Amendment. The stunt highlights the "safe space" culture on elite campuses, where students appeared willing to sign away fundamental constitutional rights to avoid "hurt feelings."

Keywords: [yale university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yale-university.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [ami horowitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ami-horowitz.md), [safe spaces](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safe-spaces.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Retail Line Karma, Racial Speed Observations (2:10:54–2:15:02)

A personal anecdote regarding "line karma" at Target leads to a controversial observation about the speed of retail checkers. The speaker claims that, in their experience, African American checkers are consistently faster and more efficient than their white counterparts, leading to a strategy of specifically choosing those lines.

Keywords: [target](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/target.md), line karma, racial observations, [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), [customer service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customer-service.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Christmas Eve Donations, Blue Ridge Baronet (2:16:06–2:20:06)

The final donation segment features a large contribution from Sir Atomic Rod Adams, Baronet of the Blue Ridge. Other notable donors include Don Borosky, who sent a note on "United Federation of Planets" stationery, and several international producers from Canada, France, and New Zealand.

Keywords: [atomic rod adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atomic-rod-adams.md), don borosky, federation of planets, vicky costec, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Howard Stern, SiriusXM vs Podcasting (2:20:07–2:23:10)

A donor mentions canceling their SiriusXM subscription in favor of supporting the No Agenda podcast. This prompts a discussion on Howard Stern's dismissive comments about podcasting, which the hosts interpret as a reaction to the growing competition from independent digital media.

Keywords: [howard stern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-stern.md), [siriusxm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siriusxm.md), rob leggett, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), radio competition

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Final Donor Roll, Dame Bang-Bang (2:23:10–2:28:05)

The hosts complete the donor roll, acknowledging Dame Bang-Bang for her contribution and a book regarding a ground report from Syria. Dozens of other producers are thanked for their "value for value" support as the show nears its conclusion.

Keywords: [dame bang-bang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dame-bang-bang.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Peerage Appointments, Baron of Ann Arbor (2:28:08–2:30:35)

The knighting ceremony concludes with Sir Fudge Fountain being elevated to the Baron of Ann Arbor. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony with their "Christmas blades" and offer holiday wishes to the newly appointed members of the No Agenda peerage.

Keywords: sir fudge fountain, [ann arbor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ann-arbor.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [christmas eve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas-eve.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Executive Order, APEC Tariff Changes (2:30:35–2:33:54)

A year-end executive order regarding the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) schedule is analyzed. The order lowers import duties to 5% or less on 54 categories of goods, specifically benefiting Japanese gas turbines and auxiliary plant parts, raising questions about the timing and intent of the tariff changes.

Keywords: [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), [apec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apec.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), [gas turbines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-turbines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/53.md)

### 54. Native Advertising, Coffee Health Studies (2:33:54–2:36:27)

The hosts criticize a wave of "native advertising" disguised as news reports claiming that drinking coffee increases survival rates for heart disease and diabetes. They suggest these studies are funded by major coffee corporations like Starbucks or Keurig to drive consumption through health-based marketing.

Keywords: [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md), [coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coffee.md), [heart disease](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-disease.md), [starbucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/starbucks.md), [keurig](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keurig.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/54.md)

### 55. Vitality Air, Bottled Canadian Air (2:36:28–2:38:00)

A Canadian company, Vitality Air, is capitalizing on poor air quality in China by selling bottled air from the Rocky Mountains in aerosol cans. The product features a mouthpiece that users, including parents for their children, use to inhale "fresh" air as a countermeasure to urban smog.

Keywords: vitality air, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [air pollution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-pollution.md), [aerosol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerosol.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/55.md)

### 56. See Something Say Something, Public Altercations (2:38:00–2:39:53)

A "see something, say something" report involves a woman whose physical ailments may have affected her perception of a public altercation. The incident, which involved shouting and insults, was investigated by police due to the country's heightened state of alert regarding potential threats.

Keywords: [see something say something](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/see-something-say-something.md), [police](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police.md), heightened alert, [public safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-safety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/56.md)

### 57. Hawaii Gun Permits, Medical Clearance Dispute (2:39:54–2:42:41)

The Honolulu Police Department (HPD) is requiring gun permit applicants to provide a doctor's note clearing them of mental health issues or addiction. Major healthcare providers like Kaiser Permanente are refusing to sign the specific letters, arguing that the law does not require doctors to make "medical clearance determinations" for firearm ownership.

Keywords: [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), [gun permits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-permits.md), [kaiser permanente](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiser-permanente.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), hpd

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/57.md)

### 58. Los Angeles Sheriff, Noel Aguilar Shooting Video (2:42:42–2:44:18)

Newly released cell phone footage contradicts initial police reports regarding the shooting of Noel Aguilar in Los Angeles. The video appears to show deputies shooting Aguilar in the back while he was pinned to the ground, after a deputy's own gun accidentally discharged during the struggle.

Keywords: [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [sheriff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheriff.md), noel aguilar, [police shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-shooting.md), [cell phone video](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cell-phone-video.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/58.md)

### 59. Seattle Pot Shops, Show Outro (2:44:19–2:49:54)

The show concludes with a report on record holiday sales at Seattle pot shops and a mention of the "Santa Net" on 80-meter ham radio. The hosts sign off with final holiday greetings and a reminder of their upcoming New Year's Eve broadcast.

Keywords: [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), santa net, 80 meters, [new year's eve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-year-s-eve.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/784-hot-rhetoric/chapter/59.md)

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