# Bernie and the Breach > A suspicious data breach rocks the Sanders campaign as the federal government quietly pushes through CISA and tech giants struggle with autonomous vehicle accidents. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 783 - **Published:** 2015-12-20 - **Length:** 2h 51m - **Topics:** [Bernie Sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [Encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [CISA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisa.md), [LifeLock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lifelock.md), [Self-Driving Cars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-driving-cars.md), IMF Trial, [Flat Earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach ## About this episode Bernie Sanders confronts a major data breach within the Democratic National Committee voter database, alleging that NGP VAN CEO Stu Trevelyan and other former Clinton staffers orchestrated a dirty trick to sabotage his campaign. The controversy erupted during the ABC News Democratic primary debate, where Sanders apologized for his staff's actions while demanding an independent investigation into systemic security failures. Hillary Clinton countered by proposing a Manhattan-like project for encryption, calling for tech leaders to build government backdoors that FBI Director James Comey claims are technically impossible. Secondary stories include a $100 million FTC settlement against LifeLock for deceptive advertising and data insecurity, a story largely ignored by mainstream media due to the company's heavy ad spend. In international news, IMF Chief Christine Lagarde faces trial in France over a 400 million euro payment to Bernard Tapie, a move suspected to be retaliation for her support of the Chinese Yuan entering the SDR basket. Meanwhile, Juniper Networks discovered unauthorized source code in its systems that allowed hackers to monitor government VPN traffic for three years, and the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA) was quietly folded into the federal omnibus bill to grant corporations liability immunity for sharing private customer data with the Department of Homeland Security. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak engage in a heated ten-dollar wager over the ten-year viability of self-driving cars following reports that Google autonomous vehicles are being rear-ended for following traffic laws too strictly. The duo also breaks down the curious visibility of lighthouses in Flat Earth mathematics and the Dutch wartime shibboleth Scheveningen used to catch German spies. Staff member VoidZero celebrates the arrival of a new baby boy named Steven, adding a rare moment of domestic joy to the global chaos. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 783 Introduction, New Staff Family Member (0:00–2:31) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 783 of the No Agenda show on December 20, 2015. They announce that staff member VoidZero and his partner Iris welcomed a new baby boy named Steven on December 17. The hosts clarify the roles of their small management team, including Eric the Shill and VoidZero, who manages the network infrastructure. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [voidzero](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voidzero.md), steven, podcast staff, [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/1.md) ### 2. ABC News Democratic Debate Ratings, Saturday Night Television Traditions (2:32–4:12) ABC News reportedly declined to pay for overnight ratings for the recent Democratic primary debate. The hosts question why Democratic debates are held on network television while Republican debates remain on cable, despite the Saturday night time slot being traditionally poor for viewership. They reminisce about 1950s family television habits compared to modern broadcasting schedules. Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [democratic debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-debate.md), [television ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-ratings.md), saturday night, [cable news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cable-news.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Bernie Sanders Data Breach Controversy, NGP VAN Clinton Connections (4:13–11:46) Bernie Sanders addresses a data breach involving the Democratic National Committee's voter database, claiming his campaign previously reported similar glitches without public outcry. The discussion highlights that NGP VAN CEO Stu Trevelyan is a former Clinton staffer, leading to allegations of a "dirty trick" orchestrated by the DNC. Sanders apologizes for his staff's actions while demanding an independent investigation into all campaign data breaches. Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), ngp van, stu trevelyan, [debbie wasserman schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-wasserman-schultz.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Washington State Democratic Primary, Port Angeles Fluoride Scandal (11:46–13:20) The Democratic Party in Washington State has reportedly opted to ignore primary results in favor of a caucus process to select delegates. In Port Angeles, a local scandal involves the City Council voting to retain water fluoridation despite a public vote against it. Additionally, Austin, Texas, is implementing new regulations and background checks for Uber drivers. Keywords: [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [caucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caucus.md), [port angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-angeles.md), [fluoride](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fluoride.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/4.md) ### 5. National Anthem Absence, Democratic Debate Production Critique (13:21–15:50) The hosts criticize the absence of the National Anthem at the Democratic debate, contrasting it with Republican events and professional sports. While one host finds the anthem's presence in non-governmental settings like basketball games unnecessary, they agree its omission by ABC News felt like a production oversight. A brief update confirms the new baby mentioned earlier was not delivered via C-section. Keywords: [national anthem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-anthem.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md), [sports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sports.md), [military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military.md), [patriotism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriotism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Hillary Clinton Debate Performance, David Muir Production Issues (15:50–22:39) Hillary Clinton is criticized for her debate attire and her perceived lack of respect for moderator David Muir. Production errors are noted, including a moment where the debate resumed while Clinton was still backstage, which the hosts characterize as a "jack move" or power play. The segment explores the unprofessional nature of the broadcast and Clinton's dismissive attitude toward the moderators. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [david muir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-muir.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md), jack move [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Presidential Oath of Office, Public Safety vs Constitution (22:40–26:03) Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are criticized for claiming the President's primary job is to keep the American people safe. The hosts argue that the actual constitutional oath of office requires the President to protect and uphold the Constitution, not prioritize safety over civil liberties. They reference a PBS NewsHour article that clarifies this distinction in the context of modern political rhetoric. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [oath of office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oath-of-office.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [public safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-safety.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/7.md) ### 8. ISIS Recruitment Claims, Donald Trump Social Media Propaganda (26:05–30:01) Hillary Clinton claims during the debate that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump to recruit radical jihadists. Her communications director, Jen Palmieri, later admits there is no specific video evidence, though she maintains Trump is used in social media propaganda. The hosts discuss the role of Rita Katz and the SITE Intelligence Group in discovering and potentially facilitating such narratives. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [rita katz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-katz.md), jen palmieri, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Encryption Manhattan Project, Tech Expert Backdoors (30:02–34:22) Hillary Clinton proposes a "Manhattan-like project" to bring the government and tech community together to solve the encryption debate. She expresses concern over terrorists using encrypted communications that law enforcement cannot break. The hosts discuss the technical impossibility of "backdoors" that don't compromise security for all users, referencing statements by FBI Director James Comey. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [manhattan project](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan-project.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Gun Manufacturer Liability, Charleston Loophole Legislation (34:23–38:08) Hillary Clinton advocates for removing legal immunity for gun manufacturers and sellers, urging Bernie Sanders to support the closure of the "Charleston loophole." The discussion compares this strategy to lawsuits against the tobacco industry. The hosts argue that holding manufacturers liable for the criminal use of their products is a strategic move to bypass Second Amendment protections. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), [tobacco industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tobacco-industry.md), [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/10.md) ### 11. The View Assault Weapon Poll, Joy Behar Commentary (38:10–40:05) A segment from "The View" discusses a new poll showing that a majority of Americans now oppose a ban on assault weapons due to fears regarding government protection. Host Joy Behar is criticized for her cynical response to the poll, where she references Sandy Hook and Timothy McVeigh to argue against the efficacy of civilian gun ownership. Keywords: [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [joy behar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-behar.md), [assault weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assault-weapons.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [polling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polling.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Special Operations in Syria, Hillary Clinton Combat Claims (40:06–42:26) Hillary Clinton is questioned about the deployment of Special Operations forces to Syria and Iraq despite her pledge not to send "combat troops." The hosts discuss the death of a Delta Force member and suggest that the government may be using mercenaries or private contractors to skirt public definitions of ground combat. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [delta force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-force.md), [special operations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-operations.md), [mercenaries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercenaries.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Bernie Sanders Wall Street Critique, Glass-Steagall Act (42:26–46:25) Bernie Sanders attacks corporate greed and the "billionaire class" during the debate, stating that Wall Street will not like his presidency. He calls for the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act to break up large financial institutions. The hosts note that Sanders correctly attributed the dismantling of Glass-Steagall to Bill Clinton's administration. Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md), [glass-steagall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glass-steagall.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [billionaires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/billionaires.md), [401k](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/401k.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Vladimir Putin Trump Praise, Mitt Romney Thug Comments (46:26–50:51) Donald Trump responds positively to praise from Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called him "brilliant." This exchange drew criticism from Mitt Romney, who labeled Putin a "thug," and Jeb Bush, who called Trump a "chaos candidate." The hosts analyze the media's use of the term "strongmen" to describe both leaders. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), [jeb bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeb-bush.md), [ben carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-carson.md), strongmen [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Frank Luntz Muslim Focus Group, CAIR Influence (50:52–54:53) CBS News and pollster Frank Luntz conducted a focus group with Muslim Americans regarding Donald Trump's rhetoric. The hosts criticize the segment for featuring representatives from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), whom they describe as a front group. They argue Luntz is a "paid stooge" who produces desired results for networks. Keywords: [frank luntz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frank-luntz.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [cair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cair.md), muslim focus group, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/15.md) ### 16. New York Times Obama Edit, Cable News Anxiety (54:53–59:15) The New York Times reportedly deleted a paragraph from a story where President Obama admitted he did not watch enough cable news to appreciate public anxiety following the Paris and San Bernardino attacks. The hosts discuss Charles Krauthammer's analysis that Obama's comments were likely sarcastic and condescending toward the general public. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [cable news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cable-news.md), [paris attacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris-attacks.md), [charles krauthammer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charles-krauthammer.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/16.md) ### 17. No Agenda Donation Segment, Dutch Language Wartime Tips (59:15–1:08:59) The hosts review the show's artwork and donation statistics, noting a seasonal dip. They discuss a large donation from Viscount Sir Richard Bagwell and share a wartime anecdote about the Dutch word "Scheveningen" being used to identify German spies. The segment includes various "karma" sound bites and listener-requested jingles. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [jeb bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeb-bush.md), [scheveningen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scheveningen.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Christmas Eve Show Announcement, C-SPAN Prank Calls (1:08:59–1:15:39) Adam and John announce a live Christmas Eve broadcast. They play a clip from C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" where a caller from Salt Lake City uses vulgar language toward a congressman. This leads to a discussion about the technical challenges of managing live call-in shows and the use of digital delay loops to "dump" inappropriate content. Keywords: [christmas eve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas-eve.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [washington journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-journal.md), prank calls, digital delay, technical directing [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Obama on Running Wild with Bear Grylls, Climate Change Science (1:15:41–1:22:33) President Obama appeared on "Running Wild with Bear Grylls" in Alaska to discuss climate change. The hosts mock the show's fawning tone and Obama's claim that the science is "indisputable." They also play a 2008 clip of Obama listing terrorism, nuclear weapons, and climate change as shared goals of all candidates. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), bear grylls, [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [glaciers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glaciers.md), [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Ted Cruz Green Acres Comparison, Media Consulting (1:22:35–1:25:32) A YouTube mashup compares Ted Cruz's voice and persona to the character Mr. Haney from the television show "Green Acres." The hosts debate whether this comparison is too dated for modern audiences, suggesting Cruz more closely resembles Joe McCarthy. They jokingly offer their services as the "Curry Dvorak Consulting Group" to deconstruct political personas. Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), green acres, mr. haney, [joe mccarthy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-mccarthy.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Christine Lagarde IMF Trial, Chinese Yuan SDR Basket (1:25:33–1:29:40) IMF Chief Christine Lagarde faces trial in France over a 400 million euro payment to businessman Bernard Tapie during her time as Finance Minister. The hosts speculate that the legal pressure is a response to her support for including the Chinese Yuan (Renminbi) in the IMF's Special Drawing Rights (SDR) basket. Keywords: [christine lagarde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christine-lagarde.md), [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), bernard tapie, [sdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sdr.md), [chinese yuan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chinese-yuan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/21.md) ### 22. CISA Omnibus Bill, Cybersecurity Liability Protections (1:29:41–1:39:23) The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA) was quietly included in the federal omnibus spending bill. Leaked White House documents reveal the administration's focus on providing liability protections to companies that share threat data with the Department of Homeland Security. The hosts argue this incentivizes oversharing of private customer data and creates a "moral hazard." Keywords: [cisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisa.md), [omnibus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omnibus-bill.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), liability protection, [valerie jarrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/valerie-jarrett.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Google Self-Driving Car Accidents, Bloomberg Tech Report (1:39:24–1:43:53) Bloomberg reports that Google's autonomous vehicles are involved in accidents because they follow traffic laws too strictly, leading human drivers to rear-end them. California regulators have proposed rules requiring a human driver to be ready to take control at all times. The hosts debate whether programmers should teach cars to "behave more human" by occasionally breaking laws. Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [self-driving cars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-driving-cars.md), [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [accidents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accidents.md), [traffic laws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/traffic-laws.md), california regulators [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Self-Driving Car Skepticism, Adam vs John Bet (1:43:54–1:52:23) Adam Curry expresses intense skepticism regarding the future of self-driving cars, calling them a "stupid idea" that will not be fully integrated in their lifetime. John Dvorak disagrees, leading to a $10 bet on whether self-driving cars will be legally and fully integrated into traffic within 10 years. They compare the hype to the failed promise of the "paperless office." Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [autonomous vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autonomous-vehicles.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), paperless office, [bet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bet.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Juniper Networks Source Code Breach, VPN Security (1:52:25–1:57:32) Juniper Networks discovered unauthorized source code in its systems that allowed a backdoor for hackers to monitor encrypted government communications for three years. The FBI and DHS are investigating the breach. The hosts suggest the backdoor may have been an internal intelligence agency tool (NSA) that was discovered by another agency or a competitor like Cisco. Keywords: juniper networks, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [source code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/source-code.md), backdoor, [vpn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vpn.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Turkey Ottoman Hearth Militia, President Erdogan Power (1:57:33–2:03:08) Reports surface regarding the "Ottoman Hearth," a pro-Erdogan militia in Turkey accused of harassing political opponents and journalists. A Turkish MP is under investigation for treason after claiming ISIS produced sarin gas using chemicals transported through Turkey. The hosts discuss Erdogan's efforts to restore Ottoman-style power and his relationship with Fethullah Gulen. Keywords: [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [recep tayyip erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recep-tayyip-erdogan.md), ottoman hearth, [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [sarin gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarin-gas.md), [fethullah gulen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fethullah-gulen.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Miss Universe Predictions, Paris Fashion Model BMI Law (2:03:08–2:07:26) The hosts make lighthearted predictions for the Miss Universe pageant, suggesting Miss Russia or Miss Spain might win due to geopolitical factors. They also discuss a new law in Paris that bans excessively thin fashion models, requiring them to provide medical certificates proving a healthy Body Mass Index (BMI) to work. Keywords: [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [paris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris.md), fashion models, [bmi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bmi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/783-bernie-and-the-breach/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Southwest Airlines Peanuts, Year-End Slideshow Ads (2:07:28–2:16:33) A listener's donation leads to a rant about the etiquette of eating peanuts on airplanes, specifically the "fist-shaking" method of consumption. The hosts also discuss how ad blockers interact with year-end celebrity death slideshows on news websites, often leaving blank pages where advertisements would normally appear. 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