# Busted Router

> Systemic technical failures paralyze American infrastructure while the FBI leverages security fears to demand master keys for encrypted messaging apps like Signal and Threema.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 738
- **Published:** 2015-07-12
- **Length:** 3h 9m
- **Topics:** Router Failure, Encryption Debate, Greek Austerity, [Cashless Society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless-society.md), Trump Performance Art, Mini Ice Age
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router

## About this episode

A massive internal hardware failure at United Airlines and a software upgrade error at the New York Stock Exchange triggered a wave of technical outages across the United States this week. While media outlets labeled the events as simple glitches, internal reports suggest a misconfigured router caused a DDoS-like event within United’s network. FBI Director James Comey and Senator Dianne Feinstein are utilizing the chaos to push for mandatory reporting of terrorist activity by tech companies, while Senator Ron Wyden warns that government stockpiles of encryption keys will leave American businesses vulnerable to foreign surveillance.

In Europe, the Greek debt crisis reaches a stalemate as Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis resigns following failed negotiations with the European Stability Mechanism. The Netherlands continues its aggressive push toward a cashless society, prompting concerns from producer Ancilla van de Leest regarding the security of chip-and-signature systems. Meanwhile, UK Chancellor George Osborne announced a new national living wage of £9 by 2020, a move widely viewed as a bid for the Prime Minister’s office. In the United States, EPA Director Gina McCarthy faced scrutiny from Representative Dana Rohrabacher after failing to identify the specific percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere during a congressional hearing.

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign is emerging as a masterclass in reality show performance art, with Mark Burnett rumored to be involved in the production. Dvorak shares a classic noir fighting tip involving a roll of quarters while Adam Curry broadcasts from a connectivity-starved Rotterdam. The show welcomes new Knights to the Roundtable, including Sir Jihadi Jim of Hong Kong and Anthony Seven, as the peerage continues to expand through the 737 Club.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/transcript.md.

### 1. Technical Difficulties, Chat Room Snark in Rotterdam (0:00–2:20)

Adam Curry broadcasts from Rotterdam, Netherlands, while John C. Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley for episode 738. The hosts address live stream issues and criticize the "snarky" behavior of users in the noagenestream.com chat room. Dvorak notes a decline in the quality of online forum comments.

Keywords: [rotterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rotterdam.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md), [chat room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chat-room.md), [technical difficulties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-difficulties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Facebook Phony Culture, Perfect 365 App Skepticism (2:21–5:33)

The discussion shifts to the perceived inauthenticity of Facebook, where users utilize the Perfect 365 app to filter their appearances. A comparison is drawn between modern social media silos and the restrictive AOL model of the 1990s. The hosts argue that political correctness on major platforms drives users toward extreme behavior in anonymous spaces.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), perfect 365, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), [aol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aol.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/2.md)

### 3. French Internet Infrastructure, South of France Connectivity Issues (5:34–10:29)

During a recent trip to the South of France, connectivity issues hindered the uploading of previous podcast episodes. The local ADSL speeds were reported as low as 100 kilobits per second, significantly slower than infrastructure in Germany or Sweden. This lack of reliable internet is cited as a reason for low listenership in the region.

Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [adsl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adsl.md), [internet speed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-speed.md), uploading, [south of france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-of-france.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Greece Debt Crisis, Eurozone Austerity Failure (10:30–14:36)

Finance ministers in Rotterdam failed to reach a deal regarding the Greek debt crisis, leading to discussions of a temporary five-year "timeout" from the Euro. The hosts analyze the resignation of Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis, debating whether his departure was a strategic "game theory" move. A comparison is made between the U.S. stimulus approach and European austerity measures.

Keywords: [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [eurozone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone.md), [austerity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austerity.md), [yanis varoufakis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yanis-varoufakis.md), [stimulus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stimulus.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/4.md)

### 5. European Stability Mechanism, Greek Sovereignty Concerns (14:37–20:13)

The Greek government seeks to tap into the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) rather than the central bank, raising questions about national sovereignty. Nigel Farage is noted for his speeches encouraging a Greek exit from the European project. Observations are made regarding the relative stability of the Euro despite the ongoing political turmoil.

Keywords: [esm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esm.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md), [nigel farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md), [drachma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drachma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Greek Bank Closures, Bitcoin Adoption Potential (20:13–23:49)

As Greek banks remain closed for a third week, citizens face severe commerce restrictions, including the inability to pay for international web hosting. The BBC reports on Greeks turning to Bitcoin as a decentralized alternative to the frozen banking system. The hosts discuss the practical difficulties of using cryptocurrency for standard business transactions.

Keywords: [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [capital controls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capital-controls.md), web hosting

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Dutch Cashless Society, Pin and Chip Systems (23:50–28:05)

The Netherlands is aggressively promoting a cashless society, with campaigns targeting children to use bank cards instead of physical currency. Producer Ancilla van de Leest authored an article regarding the Dutch royal family's promotion of credit over cash. The hosts express skepticism regarding the security of the "chip and signature" cards issued by American banks.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [cashless society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless-society.md), [chip and pin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chip-and-pin.md), ancilla van de leest, [banking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/7.md)

### 8. UK Budget Announcement, George Osborne Living Wage (28:05–31:21)

Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne announced a new national living wage for the United Kingdom, set to reach £9 an hour by 2020. The announcement is viewed as a political maneuver to position Osborne as the next Prime Minister. The policy mandates a starting rate of £7.20 for workers aged 25 and over beginning in April.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [george osborne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-osborne.md), [living wage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/living-wage.md), [budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget.md), chancellor of the exchequer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/8.md)

### 9. UK Two-Child Benefit Limit, Immigration Policy (31:21–34:23)

The British government introduced a policy limiting tax credit support to the first two children in a family, effective April 2017. This measure aims to address explosive population growth and the high cost of welfare subsidies. The hosts note that the policy is particularly popular among citizens concerned about large immigrant families receiving state support.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [tax credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-credits.md), child benefits, [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [welfare reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/welfare-reform.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Universal Basic Income, Robot Automation Economy (34:23–38:15)

A discussion on poverty solutions explores the concept of a guaranteed basic income, a policy once favored by Richard Nixon. The hosts argue that as robots and AI take over assembly line and service jobs, wealth distribution must change to support citizens. Concerns are raised about capital concentration if corporations like Google own the majority of automated labor.

Keywords: guaranteed income, [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [robots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robots.md), [capitalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/10.md)

### 11. July 2015 Tech Outages, United Airlines Router Failure (38:16–42:44)

On a single Wednesday in July 2015, the New York Stock Exchange, United Airlines, and the Wall Street Journal all suffered significant technical failures. While media reports labeled these as "glitches," a producer reveals the United Airlines outage was caused by an internal DDoS situation resulting from poorly configured hardware. Officials ruled out cyberattacks despite the coincidental timing.

Keywords: [nyse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nyse.md), [united airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-airlines.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [computer glitch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-glitch.md), [ddos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ddos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Software Reliability, NYSE Trading Halt (42:45–46:57)

The New York Stock Exchange trading halt is attributed to a failed software upgrade rather than a nefarious actor. The hosts discuss the inherent unreliability of complex software, citing examples from short-URL generators to autonomous vehicle systems. They criticize the media's use of the word "glitch" to mask systemic engineering failures.

Keywords: [software bugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-bugs.md), [nyse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nyse.md), [autonomous vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autonomous-vehicles.md), [flash trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash-trading.md), [technical issues](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-issues.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Schiphol Airport Wi-Fi, Automated Journalism (46:58–51:12)

A catastrophic Wi-Fi upgrade at Schiphol Airport resulted in a system rollback that inadvertently restored the "No Agenda" network. The conversation moves to the rise of automated journalism, noting that robots already write many financial and sports reports. Amy Goodman is jokingly characterized as a robot due to her consistent delivery style.

Keywords: [schiphol airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol-airport.md), [wi-fi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wi-fi.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/13.md)

### 14. July 4th Terror Warnings, FBI Arrests (51:13–54:25)

Despite high-profile warnings of terrorist attacks on July 4th, no major incidents occurred. FBI Director James Comey reported over 10 ISIS-related arrests in the month leading up to the holiday. CNN coverage is criticized for using "cyber" visuals to describe unsophisticated plots involving knives and guns.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), terror plots, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Fighting Tips, Roll of Quarters Anecdote (54:25–58:02)

Dvorak shares a fighting tip involving the use of a roll of quarters to reinforce a closed fist, a technique often seen in old noir films. The discussion touches on the history of brass knuckles and the purpose of boxing gloves in protecting the wearer's hands. This aside follows a report on the "unsophisticated" weapons allegedly planned for use in terror plots.

Keywords: [boxing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boxing.md), [self defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-defense.md), brass knuckles, nunchucks, fighting

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Encryption Debate, Threema and Signal Apps (58:02–1:02:34)

The FBI expresses frustration over "going dark" due to end-to-end encryption in apps like WhatsApp, Threema, and Signal. Director James Comey argues that encryption hinders the ability to track terrorist communications. The hosts discuss the Swiss-based Threema app and the open-source Signal app as tools for maintaining digital privacy.

Keywords: [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), threema, [signal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signal.md), [whatsapp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whatsapp.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Dianne Feinstein vs. James Comey, Mandatory Reporting (1:02:34–1:07:37)

Senator Dianne Feinstein questioned FBI Director James Comey on why tech companies aren't legally required to report terrorist activity, similar to existing child pornography laws. Comey provided a non-committal answer, claiming he had not studied the proposal sufficiently. The exchange highlights the tension between legislative mandates and technical feasibility in surveillance.

Keywords: [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [senate intelligence committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-intelligence-committee.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Ron Wyden, Encryption Key Stockpiles (1:07:38–1:12:21)

Senator Ron Wyden criticized the FBI's push for government access to encrypted data, warning against the creation of a "stockpile of encryption keys." Wyden argued that such a move would make American businesses vulnerable to foreign surveillance and damage the tech economy. The hosts mock the sycophantic behavior of other senators during the hearing.

Keywords: [ron wyden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-wyden.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), encryption keys, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [senate hearing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-hearing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/18.md)

### 19. ISIS Social Media Recruitment, International Jurisdiction (1:12:22–1:16:48)

FBI Director James Comey explains how ISIS recruiters move targets from public platforms like Twitter to encrypted messaging services. The discussion covers the difficulty of enforcing U.S. law on servers located in Western Europe or less-governed regions like Yemen. Comey notes that the UK and France are pursuing even more aggressive surveillance legislation following the Charlie Hebdo attacks.

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [jurisdiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jurisdiction.md), [charlie hebdo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-hebdo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Strong Encryption Definitions, FBI Hiring Challenges (1:16:48–1:21:32)

The FBI director's definition of "strong encryption" is criticized for implying a system where the government holds a master key. The hosts discuss the FBI's difficulty in hiring top cybersecurity talent from Silicon Valley due to strict drug-testing policies regarding marijuana and cocaine. Comey also addresses the "China problem," arguing that U.S. surveillance standards are superior to Chinese practices.

Keywords: [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [drug testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-testing.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Twitter CEO Threats, ISIL Digital Presence (1:21:33–1:24:50)

Twitter has become more aggressive in shutting down ISIL-related accounts, which reportedly led to death threats against former CEO Dick Costolo. James Comey acknowledges that social media companies are cooperating more effectively with law enforcement. The hosts speculate that the pressure of managing these threats contributed to Costolo's resignation.

Keywords: [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), dick costello, [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [death threats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-threats.md), [dmca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dmca.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/21.md)

### 22. See Something Say Something, Troubled Souls (1:24:51–1:28:54)

James Comey describes ISIS targets as "troubled souls" reached through the "buzz in the pocket" of social media. He urges the American public to report any suspicious behavior, invoking the "See Something, Say Something" slogan. The hosts analyze the marketing-heavy language used by the FBI to encourage domestic surveillance.

Keywords: [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Barack Obama, Training ISIL Forces Gaffe (1:28:04–1:31:41)

During a press briefing, President Barack Obama mistakenly stated that the U.S. is "speeding up training of ISIL forces." The hosts analyze the clip, debating whether it was a Freudian slip or a teleprompter error. The statement was intended to refer to training anti-ISIL forces among Sunni tribes in Anbar province.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [gaffe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffe.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), sunni tribes

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Sawab Center, Anti-Extremism Social Media Initiative (1:31:42–1:35:38)

The U.S. State Department and the United Arab Emirates launched the Sawab Center, a joint initiative to counter Daesh (ISIS) propaganda online. The center aims to amplify moderate Muslim voices and use social media tools to provide "the right perspective" on religious values. The hosts view the initiative as an expensive and potentially ineffective counter-messaging campaign.

Keywords: sawab center, [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [daesh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daesh.md), counter-messaging

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Producer Credits, The 737 Club (1:35:39–1:39:33)

The hosts thank the artists and producers for recent episodes, including Sir John Fletcher and Paye. Anthony Seven is inducted into the No Agenda peerage as a Knight after a significant contribution of $737.37. The segment highlights the use of bank electronic check-writing services for show support.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), 737 club, sir anthony seven, electronic checks, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Dame Rosalind Furness, Sir Jihadi Jim of Hong Kong (1:39:35–1:44:12)

Rosalind Furness, a listener in the London publishing industry, donates to the show and requests a knighthood for her friend, Jihadi Jim. Jim is dubbed "Sir Jihadi Jim, The Grand Douchebag of Hong Kong Side" for his 42nd birthday. The summary includes a colorful description of the "mindless hordes" of commuters in London.

Keywords: london publishing, [hong kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Baron of the Central California Coast, Geocities Archives (1:44:13–1:47:35)

A donor achieves the rank of Baron of the Central California Coast, requesting "moving karma" for a relocation to the Pacific Northwest. The hosts discuss the legacy of Geocities, noting that the entire collection of defunct personal websites is archived and available for download online.

Keywords: [geocities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geocities.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [santa cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-cruz.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [archives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archives.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Climate Change Skepticism, Hydrological Cycle (1:47:35–1:50:04)

A letter from a donor in Corvallis, Oregon, prompts a discussion on the Earth's hydrological cycle and grade-school science. The donor expresses support for Donald Trump's "entertaining politicking." The hosts also mention the book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" as a recommended resource for understanding global politics.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), hydrological cycle, water cycle, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/28.md)

### 29. No Agenda Meetups, DEF CON 2015 (1:50:06–1:53:18)

Sir Ramsey Mohon announces a No Agenda meetup at the upcoming DEF CON security conference. The hosts praise the work of listeners who create "clip of the day" accounts on Twitter to archive show highlights. Adam Curry prepares to return to his home base after broadcasting from Rotterdam.

Keywords: [def con](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/def-con.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), ramsey mohan, [clips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clips.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Donald Trump, Reality Show Performance Art (1:53:19–1:57:38)

Adam Curry theorizes that Donald Trump's presidential campaign is a meticulously orchestrated reality show, possibly managed by Mark Burnett. CNN produced a montage of Trump's comments on China, Mexico, and ISIS, which the hosts interpret as "native advertising" that may actually benefit Trump's brand. The campaign is described as high-quality performance art in a free space.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [mark burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-burnett.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [performance art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/performance-art.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Media Deconstruction, Trump's Immigration Comments (1:57:38–2:00:52)

The hosts deconstruct the media's portrayal of Donald Trump's comments regarding Mexican immigrants. By playing the full context of the speech, they show Trump was discussing economic competition and trade disadvantages rather than making a blanket statement about all Mexicans. They argue that the media's "cherry-picking" of quotes has created a false narrative.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), [trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Republican Primary Dynamics, Chris Matthews on Trump (2:00:52–2:06:29)

Donald Trump's entry into the Republican primary has unsettled the party mainstream, though he remains popular with voters. MSNBC's Chris Matthews compared Trump's aggressive style to the sons of Saddam Hussein, suggesting he has "oppo" research on every journalist. The hosts believe Trump is a more serious threat to the establishment than the media admits.

Keywords: [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md), [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), [political strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-strategy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren Backup Theory (2:06:31–2:12:14)

A theory is proposed that Elizabeth Warren is being positioned as a backup candidate should Hillary Clinton's campaign fail. The hosts analyze a clip of Clinton discussing putting a woman on the $10 or $20 bill, interpreting her language as a "Freudian slip" regarding her own political future. Speculation continues regarding the health and public image of Bill Clinton.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md), [currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Mini Ice Age Prediction, Maunder Minimum (2:12:14–2:13:49)

Scientific reports suggest a "mini ice age" could occur by 2030 due to a predicted 60% drop in solar activity, similar to the Maunder Minimum of the 17th century. The hosts suggest that climate change activists may attempt to take credit for the cooling trend as a result of their policies.

Keywords: [ice age](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice-age.md), [solar cycle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solar-cycle.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [maunder minimum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maunder-minimum.md), [2030](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2030.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Gina McCarthy EPA Hearing, CO2 Atmospheric Percentage (2:13:49–2:19:13)

EPA Director Gina McCarthy was questioned by Representative Dana Rohrabacher regarding the specific percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere. McCarthy was unable to provide the exact figure (approximately 0.04%), leading to criticism that the agency's "draconian" policies are not based on a fundamental understanding of atmospheric composition.

Keywords: [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [gina mccarthy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gina-mccarthy.md), [dana rohrabacher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dana-rohrabacher.md), [co2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/co2.md), [climate policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-policy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Michelle Obama, Native American Ancestry Speech (2:19:22–2:22:00)

Michelle Obama delivered a speech to Native American youth, claiming the Iroquois Confederacy served as a model for the U.S. government. She also stated that modern conservation and climate change policies are finally embracing the "wisdom of your ancestors." The hosts question the historical accuracy of these claims.

Keywords: [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [native americans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-americans.md), iroquois confederacy, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [conservation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conservation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Washington State Indian Reservation, Bald Eagle Pests (2:22:01–2:24:49)

Dvorak recounts a trip to the northwestern corner of Washington State, where he observed an Indian reservation being used as a dumping ground for old appliances. He challenges the "noble conservationist" stereotype, noting that bald eagles in the area are often viewed as pests that prey on small pets like kittens and puppies.

Keywords: [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), indian reservation, [bald eagles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bald-eagles.md), [conservation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conservation.md), [environment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Golden Eagle vs. Seagull, Crow Intelligence (2:24:53–2:29:15)

Dvorak describes an encounter with a golden eagle in his backyard that had consumed an entire seagull. He notes the eagle's territorial behavior and contrasts it with the intelligence of crows, who reportedly protect chickens from predators to ensure their own access to chicken feed.

Keywords: golden eagle, seagull, [crows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crows.md), [animal behavior](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-behavior.md), [nature](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nature.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Russia Straight Flag, Anti-Gay Fever Campaign (2:29:17–2:33:58)

Russia's ruling party unveiled a "straight flag" featuring a nuclear family to counter the LGBT rainbow flag. The hosts argue that the Western media's focus on Russian anti-gay sentiment is a retaliatory "smear" campaign triggered by Russia's refusal to extradite Edward Snowden. The flag's design is traced back to a French anti-same-sex marriage group.

Keywords: [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), straight flag

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/39.md)

### 40. General Joseph Dunford, Russia Existential Threat (2:33:58–2:38:12)

General Joseph Dunford, nominee for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified that Russia presents the greatest existential threat to the United States. State Department spokesperson John Kirby refused to explicitly endorse Dunford's assessment, highlighting a rift between military and diplomatic rhetoric. The hosts note how drastically the political stance on Russia has shifted since the 2012 election.

Keywords: [joseph dunford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joseph-dunford.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [joint chiefs of staff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joint-chiefs-of-staff.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/40.md)

### 41. OPM Breach, China Attribution Debate (2:38:12–2:41:41)

During his confirmation hearing, General Dunford avoided attributing the OPM data breach to China, despite leading questions from Senator Kelly Ayotte. Dunford emphasized the difficulty of cyber attribution and focused on providing the President with a range of response options. The hosts interpret his refusal to name China as a sign of professional skepticism toward intelligence "memes."

Keywords: [opm breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opm-breach.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [cyber attack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-attack.md), [joseph dunford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joseph-dunford.md), [kelly ayotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kelly-ayotte.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Iran and Taliban Cooperation Claims (2:41:41–2:45:02)

Reports suggest that Iran is providing support to the Taliban in Afghanistan to counter the spread of ISIL. The hosts express skepticism, noting the historical and religious animosity between the Shia Iranians and the Sunni Taliban. They argue that ISIL is being used as a "control mechanism" to justify various geopolitical interventions.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [geopolitics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geopolitics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Global Donor Roll, Canadian vs. US Support (2:45:03–2:51:20)

The hosts read a extensive list of donors from Calgary, San Francisco, Texas, and the UK. A "competition" between Canadian and American listeners for the highest support levels resulted in a tie. Notable donors include an "Anonymous Lesbian in Toronto" and several listeners contributing $74.15 in honor of the July 4th holiday.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Peerage Inductions, International Support (2:51:21–2:57:03)

New members are inducted into the No Agenda peerage, including donors from Queensland, Australia, and Drenthe, Netherlands. The hosts acknowledge the "737 Club" and provide "jobs karma" to those seeking employment. The segment concludes the formal thank-you process for the three most recent episodes.

Keywords: [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [knights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knights.md), [dames](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dames.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Knighting Ceremony, The Roundtable (2:57:04–2:59:25)

In a formal ceremony, Anthony Seven, Gavin Boyd, Craig Harris, and Jihadi Jim are dubbed Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. The hosts offer a variety of symbolic refreshments, including "Shibari and Fat Rooster Craft Beer." The new knights are promised certificates of authenticity and rings to signify their status.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), jihadi jim, anthony seven, gavin boyd, craig harris

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Peter Schweizer, Complexity as Extortion (2:59:26–3:03:57)

Author Peter Schweizer explains how legislative complexity is used as a tool for "legal extortion" by politicians and bureaucrats. He compares the 35-page Glass-Steagall Act to the 10,000-page Dodd-Frank Act, arguing that complex laws create a lucrative "revolving door" for staffers to become high-paid consultants. This "business model" allows the authors of regulations to profit by interpreting them for corporations.

Keywords: [peter schweizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-schweizer.md), [dodd-frank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dodd-frank.md), [glass-steagall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glass-steagall.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), [consulting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consulting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Iran Nuclear Deadlines, Today Show Fluff (3:03:06–3:09:41)

The Iran nuclear negotiations have missed multiple deadlines, with John Kerry remaining at the table after other foreign ministers departed. The show concludes with a critique of a "Today Show" segment about matching nail polish to shoes, which the hosts cite as evidence of the decline of mainstream media. The episode ends with the standard "No Agenda" sign-off and a montage of Hillary Clinton clips.

Keywords: [iran deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-deal.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [today show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/today-show.md), [media criticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-criticism.md), [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/738-busted-router/chapter/47.md)

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