# Fusion Cell > Federal agencies consolidate surveillance power under a new hostage task force while the Senate clears the path for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 733 - **Published:** 2015-06-25 - **Length:** 2h 44m - **Topics:** Fusion Cell, [OPM Breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opm-breach.md), TPP Trade, [Bill Nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), Greek Debt, [Suboxone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suboxone.md), Dryer Balls - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell ## About this episode The FBI and Department of Justice have established a Hostage Recovery Fusion Cell under Executive Order 12333, a move that critics argue expands federal surveillance of U.S. persons under the guise of humanitarian assistance. President Obama announced the inter-agency task force following public pressure from families of Americans held abroad, such as the mother of slain journalist James Foley. While the administration frames the cell as a communication bridge, the underlying legal authorities permit the collection of domestic intelligence on targets and victims. In Washington, the Senate secured a 60-37 vote to grant President Obama fast-track trade negotiating authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership after a complex legislative decoupling of worker assistance programs. Simultaneously, House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz confronted OPM Director Katherine Archuleta over a massive data breach involving millions of federal background checks. The hearing revealed a critical lack of security logging and the fact that USIS, the contractor responsible for the checks, allegedly bypassed quality reviews to maximize executive bonuses before filing for bankruptcy. Cultural shifts took center stage as the hosts analyzed the sudden viral explosion of New Zealand wool dryer balls and the marketing-driven rise of kale from a deli garnish to a superfood. Bill Nye the Science Guy faced scrutiny for his GE-sponsored climate content, while the Queen of England’s visit to Germany was overshadowed by a diplomatic row over a Belgian coin commemorating the Battle of Waterloo. The episode concludes with a look at President Obama’s appearance on Marc Maron’s podcast and the suspicious timing of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s sentencing apology. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/transcript.md. ### 1. New Zealand Wool Dryer Balls, Amazon Viral Trend (0:00–2:27) The hosts discuss the sudden viral popularity of wool dryer balls, comparing their influence to the Oprah Book Club effect. One host describes purchasing a set of six 100% New Zealand wool balls from Etsy, while the other ordered a mixed pack of small and large balls. The conversation highlights a shift away from traditional dryer sheets toward these reusable alternatives. Keywords: dryer balls, new zealand wool, [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [etsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etsy.md), [laundry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laundry.md), oprah book club [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Toxic Chemicals in Dryer Sheets, Smart Sheep Alternatives (2:29–6:29) A discussion regarding the environmental and health risks of fabric softener sheets reveals they contain chemicals listed as dangerous by the EPA. The hosts examine "Smart Sheep" dryer balls, which are handmade in Nepal and claim to reduce drying time by increasing airflow. A comparison is made between imported wool balls and domestically sourced American wool products. Keywords: [dryer sheets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dryer-sheets.md), [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [toxic chemicals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toxic-chemicals.md), smart sheep, [nepal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nepal.md), [wool](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wool.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Skype Interface Changes, Bill Nye Emoji Science (6:30–8:25) The hosts critique recent updates to the Skype interface, specifically the confusing replacement of "accept" buttons with ambiguous download arrows. The segment transitions into a critique of "Emoji Science," a digital content series featuring Bill Nye. The program is identified as native advertising funded by General Electric to promote green initiatives. Keywords: [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [user interface](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/user-interface.md), [bill nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), emoji science, [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Bill Nye Climate Indoctrination, GE Green Energy Marketing (8:27–11:40) Bill Nye's educational content on climate change is characterized as indoctrination aimed at children. The hosts analyze his narrative regarding population growth since 1750 and the rise of carbon dioxide levels. The segment concludes by revealing General Electric, a major manufacturer of gas turbines, as the corporate sponsor behind the renewable energy messaging. Keywords: [bill nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [renewable energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/renewable-energy.md), [carbon dioxide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-dioxide.md), james watt [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Netherlands Climate Ruling, Dutch Sea Level Defense (11:41–14:58) A Dutch court in The Hague ruled that the Netherlands must reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 25% below 1990 levels by 2020. The hosts discuss the history of Dutch water management, including the 1952 disaster and the subsequent Delta Works project. They question the narrative of immediate peril regarding rising sea levels in a country where half the land is already below sea level. Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [the hague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-hague.md), dikes, [sea level rise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level-rise.md), delta works, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/5.md) ### 6. EPA Climate Strategy, Gina McCarthy CNN Appearance (14:58–19:52) EPA Director Gina McCarthy promoted a new climate change strategy document during a CNN interview and a public health summit. McCarthy asserted that climate change is a scientific fact rather than a belief system, claiming immediate action could save thousands of lives annually. The hosts mock her claims regarding the destruction of acreage by wildfires and the "non-political" nature of the science. Keywords: [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [gina mccarthy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gina-mccarthy.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [wildfires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wildfires.md), [public health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/6.md) ### 7. CNN Two Degrees Digital Studio, Global Warming Catastrophe (19:53–22:28) CNN's digital studios produced a native advertising feature titled "Two Degrees," which explores the potential catastrophic effects of a 2-degree Celsius rise in global temperature. The hosts claim the project is funded by the EPA to propagate fears of mass extinction and extreme sea-level rise. They note the absence of natural gas discussions in the narrative regarding carbon emissions. Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [mass extinction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-extinction.md), [carbon emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-emissions.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/7.md) ### 8. White House Climate Summit, Gina McCarthy Normal People (22:29–29:21) During a three-hour White House summit on public health and climate change, EPA Director Gina McCarthy claimed 57,000 people would die prematurely by 2100 without action. She dismissed climate deniers, stating that "normal human beings" support government intervention. The hosts criticize her use of specific statistics, such as saving acreage the size of Maryland from wildfires. Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [gina mccarthy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gina-mccarthy.md), climate deniers, [computer models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-models.md), [public health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health.md), [maryland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maryland.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Ted Cruz, Wind Production Tax Credits (29:22–32:12) Senator Ted Cruz criticized federal energy mandates and tax credits, specifically targeting the wind production tax credit. Cruz claimed that a two-year extension of these credits costs taxpayers $13 billion, which he argued could instead pay the monthly electricity bills for 124 million Americans. The hosts express surprise at agreeing with Cruz's economic breakdown of energy subsidies. Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [wind energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wind-energy.md), [tax credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-credits.md), [ethanol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethanol.md), [electricity bills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electricity-bills.md), [subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subsidies.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/9.md) ### 10. OPM Data Breach, Congressional Hearing Lying (32:13–40:11) A House Oversight Committee hearing led by Representative Jason Chaffetz investigated the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) data breach. Director Katherine Archuleta and the CIO were caught in contradictions regarding whether personal identifying information (PII) or security manuals were stolen. The breach exposed sensitive background check data, including financial history and mental health records of millions of federal employees. Keywords: [opm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opm.md), katherine archuleta, [jason chaffetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-chaffetz.md), [data breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-breach.md), pii, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Cyber Pearl Harbor, DHS Severity Scale (40:12–42:01) Anne Barron-DeCamille of DHS/CERT discussed the OPM breach using a severity scale, labeling the impact as "significant." While Representative Walberg used the term "Cyber Pearl Harbor," the DHS official preferred technical terms like "exfilled" data. The discussion focuses on how the stolen data could be correlated with other sources to impact the security environment. Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [cyber pearl harbor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-pearl-harbor.md), anne barron-decamille, [data exfiltration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-exfiltration.md), cert, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/11.md) ### 12. USIS Fraud Investigation, Altegrity Executive Bonuses (42:02–44:10) Representative Ted Lieu highlighted allegations of fraud against USIS, the contractor responsible for OPM background checks. The Department of Justice joined a lawsuit alleging USIS circumvented quality reviews to increase profits between 2008 and 2012. Despite the failures, parent company Altegrity reportedly paid $30 million in bonuses to executives before the company went bankrupt. Keywords: usis, altegrity, [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), [background checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/background-checks.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Chinese Hackers, Classified Attribution Claims (44:10–45:38) The hosts discuss the public attribution of the OPM hack to Chinese actors. During the hearing, officials refused to confirm the source of the attack on the record, citing classified information. The hosts suggest that while the "normal person" believes China is responsible, the official lack of transparency indicates a more complex or deceptive narrative. Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [hackers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hackers.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md), [classified information](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classified-information.md), [attribution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/attribution.md), [cyber warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-warfare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Lack of Logging, OPM Security Infrastructure (45:39–50:48) DHS officials revealed that the OPM breach could not be fully traced due to a "lack of logging" within the system. The decision to limit log retention was described as a "risk and cost decision" based on the high volume of NetFlow records and storage requirements. The hosts mock the idea that a government agency would forgo basic security logging to save money on hard drives. Keywords: [logging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logging.md), netflow, storage costs, cost decision, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), forensic team [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/14.md) ### 15. OPM Notification Letter, Cybersecurity Funding Requests (50:48–53:05) The hosts review a four-page notification letter sent by OPM to affected individuals, which contradicts earlier testimony that no personal information was lost. In the wake of the breach, OPM requested an additional $50 million for system upgrades. The segment notes that the CIA previously received $600 million for similar infrastructure, raising questions about the efficiency of federal IT spending. Keywords: [opm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opm.md), notification letter, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funding.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [database](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/database.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/15.md) ### 16. US Navy Windows XP, Microsoft Support Contracts (53:06–54:43) The entire U.S. Navy continues to run on the obsolete Windows XP operating system, necessitating a multi-million dollar support contract with Microsoft for custom security patches. Microsoft ended general support for XP, but the Navy's refusal to upgrade has created a lucrative revenue stream for the software giant. The hosts criticize the lack of technical oversight in military IT procurement. Keywords: [us navy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-navy.md), [windows xp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-xp.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [legacy systems](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legacy-systems.md), security patches, [tech support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-support.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Benghazi Operative Killed, Michael Wolff Net Neutrality (54:44–56:48) The Pentagon announced that a drone strike in Mosul killed Ali Awni Alharzi, a person of interest in the 2012 Benghazi attack. Transitioning to media criticism, the hosts play a clip of Michael Wolff on Charlie Rose discussing net neutrality. Wolff argues that the digital industry will be surprised by the heavy regulation and lobbying games that follow the new FCC rules. Keywords: [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [drone strike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone-strike.md), ali awni alharzi, [michael wolff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-wolff.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Podcast Regulation, General Michael Hayden Interview (56:49–58:53) The hosts speculate on future government regulation of podcasts under net neutrality, including potential licensing requirements. They then introduce clips of former NSA and CIA Director Michael Hayden speaking at a Wall Street Journal conference. Hayden discusses cybersecurity, Edward Snowden, and the transition of surveillance authorities. Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regulation.md), [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Michael Hayden on Snowden, USA Freedom Act (58:54–1:01:29) General Michael Hayden discusses the impact of Edward Snowden's revelations on intelligence operations. He expresses a "cool" attitude toward the USA Freedom Act, noting that while the government no longer holds telephony metadata directly, they can still access it from private companies via court orders. The hosts characterize Hayden's demeanor as dismissive of civil liberties concerns. Keywords: [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [usa freedom act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usa-freedom-act.md), [section 215](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-215.md), [patriot act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-act.md), [metadata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metadata.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Yemen Drone Strike, Explosive Implants Claim (1:01:30–1:02:59) New Snowden documents published by The New York Times reveal a joint U.S., British, and Australian program called "Overhead" that supported a 2012 drone strike in Yemen. The strike targeted a doctor believed to be surgically implanting explosives into al-Qaida operatives. The hosts compare the "explosive implant" narrative to the plot of the movie Kingsman. Keywords: [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), [drone strike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone-strike.md), al-qaida, [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), overhead, [explosives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/explosives.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/20.md) ### 21. US Spying on France, WikiLeaks Revelations (1:02:59–1:05:31) WikiLeaks released documents showing the NSA spied on three consecutive French presidents between 2006 and 2012. French President François Hollande and Prime Minister Emmanuel Valls condemned the actions as a violation of trust. The hosts suggest the timing of the leak, which did not come from the Snowden cache, may be a Russian intelligence operation to needle the U.S. Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [francois hollande](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francois-hollande.md), emmanuel valls, [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/21.md) ### 22. US Tank Deployment, Eastern Europe Cold War (1:05:32–1:07:12) Defense Secretary Ash Carter announced the temporary deployment of tanks and armored vehicles across seven Eastern European countries, including Estonia, Lithuania, and Poland. The equipment is intended for training and exercises to reassure NATO allies. The hosts describe this as a "subtle Cold War" escalation following the revelations of U.S. spying on European allies. Keywords: [ash carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ash-carter.md), [estonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/estonia.md), [tanks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tanks.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [eastern europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eastern-europe.md), [cold war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cold-war.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Executive Producer Credits, No Agenda Formula (1:07:12–1:16:27) The hosts read credits for executive and associate executive producers, including Ben Todman and Colter Padgett. They discuss technical issues with PayPal truncating donor messages and mention a Podcast Hall of Fame award in Fort Worth. A promotion for La Verdad Cigar Company is included, offering a discount to listeners who support the show. Keywords: ben todman, colter padgett, [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [podcast awards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-awards.md), [cigars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cigars.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Hostage Recovery Executive Order, Task Force Creation (1:16:32–1:19:06) President Obama issued an executive order regarding hostage recovery activities, creating a new inter-agency task force to assist families of Americans held abroad. While right-wing media interpreted this as a move to negotiate with terrorists, the official narrative focuses on better communication with families. The President cited the rescue of Captain Richard Phillips as a primary example of successful intervention. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), [hostages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hostages.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [task force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/task-force.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/24.md) ### 25. PBS Hostage Report, Government Bureaucracy Expansion (1:19:07–1:22:21) A PBS report features Diane Foley, mother of slain journalist James Foley, criticizing the U.S. government's initial response to her son's kidnapping. In response, the administration is creating new positions, including a State Department envoy and an intelligence issue manager. The hosts argue this is an unnecessary expansion of government bureaucracy rather than a fix for existing leadership failures. Keywords: [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), diane foley, [james foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-foley.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [intelligence community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence-community.md), [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Hostage Recovery Fusion Cell, FBI Spying Expansion (1:22:21–1:27:46) The hosts analyze the creation of the Hostage Recovery Fusion Cell (HRFC), an FBI-led operation involving multiple intelligence agencies. They link the authority of this new cell to Executive Order 12333, which allows for the collection of information on U.S. persons to protect "targets, victims, or hostages." The hosts suggest the HRFC is a "central spying cell" disguised as a humanitarian effort. Keywords: fusion cell, hrfc, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [executive order 12333](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order-12333.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Fast Track Trade Authority, TPP Senate Vote (1:27:48–1:30:18) The Senate voted 60-37 to grant President Obama fast-track trade negotiating authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The hosts list the 13 Democrats who sided with Republicans to pass the measure and note that Republican presidential candidates Ted Cruz and Rand Paul voted against it. The TPP involves 12 countries and approximately 40% of the global economy. Keywords: [tpp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tpp.md), [fast track](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-track.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Trade Bill Strategy, Worker Assistance Decoupling (1:30:21–1:33:43) The hosts deconstruct the legislative strategy used to pass fast-track authority after it initially failed in the House. By decoupling worker assistance from the trade bill and attaching it to a popular African trade deal, leadership secured the support of the Black Caucus. The hosts argue that Democrats used the assistance bill as a political excuse while ultimately favoring the trade deal. Keywords: [fast track](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-track.md), worker assistance, [black caucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-caucus.md), african trade deal, [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md), [labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Confederate Flag Controversy, South Carolina History (1:33:45–1:38:16) Following a church shooting, pressure mounted to remove the Confederate flag from the South Carolina Statehouse. The hosts discuss the historical context of the Civil War, arguing it was primarily about states' rights and the 10th Amendment rather than solely about slavery. They reference Karl Marx's analysis of the conflict and criticize the sudden corporate ban on Confederate merchandise. Keywords: [confederate flag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/confederate-flag.md), [south carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-carolina.md), [civil war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-war.md), [states rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/states-rights.md), [karl marx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karl-marx.md), [fort sumter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-sumter.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Cultural Marxism, Jefferson Davis Bust Removal (1:38:17–1:43:03) The hosts label the movement to remove Confederate symbols as "cultural Marxism." They critique CNN's Don Lemon for suggesting a rethink of the Thomas Jefferson Memorial because Jefferson owned slaves. The discussion extends to the removal of Jefferson Davis's bust in Kentucky and mocks the idea that removing symbols will solve racial addiction or societal issues. Keywords: [cultural marxism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-marxism.md), [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [thomas jefferson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-jefferson.md), [jefferson davis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jefferson-davis.md), [slavery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slavery.md), [oreos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oreos.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/30.md) ### 31. White Supremacist Terrorism Statistics, Alabama Flag Removal (1:43:03–1:45:38) Governor Robert Bentley ordered the removal of Confederate flags from the Alabama State Capitol, calling them a "distraction." The hosts then critique a Democracy Now! report claiming white supremacists have killed more people in the U.S. since 9/11 than Muslim extremists. They argue these statistics are used to frame "Whitey" as the primary terrorist threat. Keywords: [alabama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alabama.md), robert bentley, [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [white supremacists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-supremacists.md), muslim extremists, [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Dylann Roof Photos, Suboxone and Big Pharma (1:45:39–1:48:58) The hosts question the authenticity of photos showing Charleston shooter Dylann Roof with Confederate patches, suggesting they look photoshopped. They transition to a discussion on Suboxone, a drug used to treat opioid addiction. While some producers claim it saved their lives, the hosts highlight the dangers of withdrawal and the influence of Big Pharma and insurance companies on addiction treatment. Keywords: [dylann roof](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dylann-roof.md), [suboxone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suboxone.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [opioids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opioids.md), [narcan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcan.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/32.md) ### 33. ACA Premium Hikes, 2016 Health Insurance Data (1:48:58–1:52:28) Representative Peter Roskam presented data showing massive proposed health insurance premium increases for 2016. Insurers, now using a full year of Affordable Care Act claims data, are requesting hikes of up to 51% in some states like South Dakota. The hosts argue this contradicts the "false narrative" that the ACA would lower healthcare costs for the average American. Keywords: [aca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aca.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md), [insurance premiums](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-premiums.md), [blue cross blue shield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-cross-blue-shield.md), [missouri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missouri.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Pharmaceutical Pricing Scams, Social Security Impact (1:52:29–1:55:08) The hosts explain a perceived scam where pharmaceutical companies drastically inflate the price of generic pills, which insurance companies pay while keeping patient co-pays low. They predict this model will eventually be used to drain the Social Security system through high Medicare Part D premiums. They advise listeners to check the actual cost of their medications on pharmacy receipts. Keywords: [pharmaceuticals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceuticals.md), [generic drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generic-drugs.md), [insurance fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-fraud.md), [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [humana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humana.md), [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Greek Debt Crisis, European Bank Repayments (1:55:08–1:59:45) As Greece faces a debt default deadline, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers commented on the situation on Charlie Rose. Summers noted that most of the hundreds of billions of dollars "poured into Greece" actually flowed back out to repay European banks for imprudent loans. The hosts agree that the Greek people are being squeezed to protect the financial interests of loan-shark-like institutions. Keywords: [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [eurozone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone.md), [larry summers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-summers.md), [european commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-commission.md), [debt default](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-default.md), [banks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banks.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Grexit Consequences, Lehman Brothers Comparison (1:59:46–2:02:50) Larry Summers compares the potential of a Greek exit from the Eurozone to the collapse of Lehman Brothers, warning of unforeseen "catastrophic" consequences. He argues that while it might not be a grand financial disaster, it would be a serious security event. The hosts discuss the role of game theory in the negotiations and predict the "can will be kicked down the road" indefinitely. Keywords: [grexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grexit.md), [larry summers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-summers.md), [lehman brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lehman-brothers.md), [game theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/game-theory.md), financial disaster, [eurozone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Queen Elizabeth Germany Visit, Waterloo Coin Controversy (2:02:51–2:05:56) Queen Elizabeth II visited Germany and met with Chancellor Angela Merkel, stressing the need for European unity. The hosts mock the ceremonial nature of the monarchy and the "baubles" worn by the Queen. 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Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [bordeaux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bordeaux.md), renaissance wine, [costco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/733-fusion-cell/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Gus Raya (2:18:16–2:19:08) Gus Raya is knighted as "Sir Gus Raya, Knight of the Graphic Designers" for contributing $1,000 or more to the program. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony, listing the various humorous perks associated with the Round Table. They encourage other producers to visit the No Agenda Nation site for branded merchandise. 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