# Fifth Column

> Nationalist rhetoric from Nigel Farage and the revival of aggressive surveillance bills like CISPA signal a tightening grip on civil liberties across the West.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 686
- **Published:** 2015-01-12
- **Length:** 2h 53m
- **Topics:** [Fifth Column](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fifth-column.md), [Schengen Agreement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schengen-agreement.md), [CISPA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cispa.md), Stingrays, [Keystone XL](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keystone-xl.md), [Nigel Farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md), Uber Crackdown
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column

## About this episode

Nigel Farage and the UK Independence Party face mounting accusations of racism following Farage’s use of the term fifth column to describe specific groups within European nations. The controversy erupts as Spain proposes reintroducing border controls between Schengen countries, signaling a potential retreat from the free movement of people. This shift toward increased state security is being framed by media outlets as France’s 9/11, following the terror attacks in Paris and the subsequent global search for Hayat Boumediene.

European authorities are currently tracking organized crime rings from Romania and Bulgaria that utilize low-cost flights to conduct rapid robbery weekends in London. Meanwhile, former House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers has transitioned to CNN to warn of activated sleeper cells, while UK Home Secretary Theresa May advocates for expansive new surveillance legislation. In the United States, Representative Dutch Ruppersberger is reintroducing the CISPA bill, citing the Sony Pictures hack as justification for increased government access to corporate data. Simultaneously, reports reveal the FBI is deploying Stingrays and Dirtboxes on light aircraft to intercept mobile data across entire cities, a move scrutinized alongside Director James Comey’s past ties to HSBC.

American cartoonist Robert Crumb offers a perspective on moral self-licensing from his home in France, refusing to succumb to public pressure regarding his illustrations. The atmosphere lightens with a look at the 1987 James Bond film The Living Daylights and the bizarre Dutch tradition of the birthday circle. The program concludes with the formal knighthood of Sir Brian and Dame Patricia, featuring a reading of the legendary Hookers and Blow menu.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/transcript.md.

### 1. Health Updates, CES Aftermath and Bittersweet Chocolate Reactions (0:00–2:13)

The hosts open the program discussing lingering flu symptoms and a persistent cough following the Consumer Electronics Show (CES). One host describes a physical relapse triggered by eating bittersweet chocolate, speculating on potential allergens or drug interactions. The conversation touches on the difficulty of resting while caring for children and the general health risks of large industry conventions.

Keywords: [flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu.md), [ces](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ces.md), bittersweet chocolate, allergens, [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md), [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Nigel Farage, Fifth Column Controversy and European Immigration (2:14–7:33)

Nigel Farage and the UK Independence Party (UKIP) face accusations of racism following Farage's use of the term "fifth column" to describe certain groups within European nations. The discussion explores the historical definition of a fifth column, referencing Madeline Albright's past usage regarding World War II. The narrative shifts to how nationalism and concerns over the free movement of people within the EU are often conflated with xenophobia by political opponents.

Keywords: [nigel farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md), [ukip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukip.md), [fifth column](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fifth-column.md), [multiculturalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/multiculturalism.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [marine le pen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marine-le-pen.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/2.md)

### 3. European Traveling Crime Rings, Low-Cost Flight Exploitation (7:33–10:03)

Organized crime gangs from Eastern Europe, specifically Romania and Bulgaria, are reportedly utilizing low-cost flights and visa-free travel to conduct "robbery weekends" in London. Europol officials highlight a trend where criminals fly into Heathrow, commit high-end burglaries or jewelry heists, and exit the country before police can intervene. The report suggests gangs are block-booking budget airline seats to facilitate these rapid criminal rotations.

Keywords: [europol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/europol.md), [romania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/romania.md), [bulgaria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bulgaria.md), [heathrow airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow-airport.md), [organized crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/organized-crime.md), [burglary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burglary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/3.md)

### 4. MSNBC Analysis, Far-Right Political Exploitation of Terror Attacks (10:03–11:25)

Christopher Dickey of Newsweek, appearing on MSNBC, argues that far-right politicians in France, Germany, and the Netherlands will cynically exploit recent terror incidents to fuel anti-immigrant sentiment. The analysis suggests that messages from groups in Dresden and elsewhere are essentially racist and xenophobic. The hosts question whether the incidents themselves are intended to provoke this specific political shift toward the right.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [dresden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dresden.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [far-right](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/far-right.md), [xenophobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xenophobia.md), christopher dickey

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Schengen Agreement, EU Police Force and 9/11 Parallel (11:27–15:06)

Spain proposes reintroducing border controls between Schengen countries as the European Union considers moving toward a more formal political and banking union. The discussion compares the potential rise of a centralized EU police force, such as an empowered Europol, to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security in the United States. Media outlets begin labeling recent French terror attacks as "France's 9/11," signaling a shift toward increased state security measures.

Keywords: [schengen agreement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schengen-agreement.md), treaty of lisbon, eupol, [interpol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/interpol.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Hayat Boumediene, Crossbow Graphics and Terrorist Recordings (15:08–17:58)

French authorities conduct a global search for Hayat Boumediene, who is suspected of involvement in the murder of a policewoman before potentially fleeing to Syria. Media coverage focuses on striking still graphics of Boumediene posing with a crossbow. Meanwhile, a recording of her common-law husband, Amedy Coulibaly, is released, in which he justifies his attack on a kosher supermarket as a response to Western military campaigns against Muslims.

Keywords: hayat boumediene, amedy coulibaly, [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), kosher supermarket, crossbow, [paris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Paris Unity Rally, Muslim Identity and Slain Terrorist Photos (17:59–20:16)

World leaders including Angela Merkel and David Cameron prepare for a massive unity rally in Paris expected to draw one million people. The brother of a slain Muslim police officer gives a public statement distinguishing the actions of terrorists from the religion of Islam, calling for calm. Controversy arises as French officials refuse to release photos of the deceased terrorists, leading to public frustration regarding transparency and potential self-censorship.

Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md), [islam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islam.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [charlie hebdo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-hebdo.md), unity rally

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Benjamin Netanyahu, Jewish Future in France and Modernity Meme (20:16–24:00)

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu invites European Jews to immigrate to Israel, asserting that the state is their true home following attacks in France. Neoconservative commentator James Kirchick publishes an article in The Daily Beast questioning the future of Jews in France and linking the attacks to a "rejection of modernity." The hosts analyze the resurgence of the "modernity" meme, which they claim was a prominent narrative immediately following the 9/11 attacks.

Keywords: [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [james kirchick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-kirchick.md), [daily beast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-beast.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), modernity, fpi

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Pim Fortuyn, Dutch Integration and Backwards Cultures (24:01–26:25)

The discussion turns to the late Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn and his critiques of multiculturalism and the failure of immigrant integration in the Netherlands. The hosts contrast the successful integration of Turkish "guest workers" with the ongoing social tensions involving Moroccan communities. They explore the linguistic shift from labeling cultures as "backwards" to the more modern academic framing of "rejecting modernity."

Keywords: [pim fortuyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pim-fortuyn.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [moroccans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moroccans.md), [integration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/integration.md), [multiculturalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/multiculturalism.md), guest workers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Mike Rogers, CNN Terrorism Correspondent and Sleeper Cells (26:26–29:47)

Former House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers transitions to a role as a terrorism correspondent for CNN, warning of activated sleeper cells and the threat of Westerners returning from fighting with ISIS in Syria. Rogers emphasizes that terrorists are "just one plane ticket away" from the United States. The segment critiques the theatrical nature of Rogers' broadcast delivery and the use of fear-based programming to justify security policies.

Keywords: [mike rogers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rogers.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [sleeper cells](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sleeper-cells.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [no-fly list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-fly-list.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Ed Schultz, Police Militarization and Domestic Massacres (29:54–33:06)

MSNBC host Ed Schultz discusses the necessity of a tightened security grip and the militarization of police to prevent terror attacks. The segment compares the professional nature of the Paris attacks to domestic massacres in the United States, such as Newtown and Virginia Tech. The hosts express skepticism regarding the claim that the Paris attackers were on U.S. no-fly lists, suggesting such reports are used to validate global surveillance tentacles.

Keywords: [ed schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ed-schultz.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [swat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swat.md), [militarization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/militarization.md), [newtown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newtown.md), [no-fly list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-fly-list.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/11.md)

### 12. French General Strikes, Lozenge Etiquette and Professionalism (33:07–34:50)

A brief discussion on the cultural difference between French general strikes and U.S. labor laws leads into a meta-commentary on podcast production. One host is called out for the sound of a lozenge clinking against his teeth and the ruffling of a bag. The exchange highlights the struggle of maintaining professional audio quality while recovering from illness.

Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [general strike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-strike.md), lozenge, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [professionalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/professionalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Modernity and Measured Humor (34:50–38:24)

Zbigniew Brzezinski appears on MSNBC to advise a measured response to Islamic extremism, warning against the West becoming "enemy number one" of Islam. Brzezinski suggests that while freedom of expression is vital, provocative humor directed at religious figures can be unnecessarily nasty to those "confronting modernity." The hosts link his comments to his historical role in arming the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as described in his book, The Grand Chessboard.

Keywords: [zbigniew brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zbigniew-brzezinski.md), [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md), [mujahideen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mujahideen.md), grand chessboard, [islam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islam.md), [humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Timothy Dalton, The Living Daylights and 1987 Geopolitics (38:25–40:37)

A host recounts watching the 1987 James Bond film, The Living Daylights, noting its portrayal of the Mujahideen and British MI6 operations in Afghanistan. The film is described as a revealing look at the geopolitical structures of the late Cold War era before the fall of the Berlin Wall. The segment recommends the movie for its grounded, less fantastical approach to the Bond franchise during the Timothy Dalton era.

Keywords: timothy dalton, [james bond](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-bond.md), [mujahideen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mujahideen.md), [m16](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m16.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [1987](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1987.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/14.md)

### 15. The Arabs: A Short History, Philip Hitti and Middle East Pipelines (40:39–46:21)

A chance discovery of the 1937 book "The Arabs: A Short History" by Philip K. Hitti leads to a discussion on the historical context of the Middle East. The book's omission of the 400-year Ottoman Empire period is noted as a significant editorial choice. The hosts conclude that modern U.S. strategy to "defeat ISIS" is actually a move toward a three-state solution involving Kurdistan and Iraq, primarily driven by regional pipeline interests.

Keywords: philip hitti, the arabs, [ottoman empire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ottoman-empire.md), [kurdistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurdistan.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Helric Fredou, Alleged Suicide and Mossad Conspiracy Theories (46:21–49:46)

Reports circulate regarding the alleged suicide of Helric Fredou, a high-ranking French police investigator involved in the Charlie Hebdo case. The hosts search for mainstream verification of the event, noting that much of the current coverage is limited to alternative sites suggesting Mossad involvement. They discuss the potential for such stories to be used to stir tensions between Muslim and Jewish populations in France.

Keywords: helric fredou, [suicide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide.md), [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md), [charlie hebdo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-hebdo.md), google.fr, [investigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investigation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Michael Flynn, Theresa May and New Surveillance Legislation (49:46–52:30)

Former DIA Director Michael Flynn tells the German publication Bild that terror cells are active across Europe, including the Netherlands. Simultaneously, UK Home Secretary Theresa May advocates for new surveillance legislation, describing it as a "properly considered" response to significant danger. The hosts frame these developments as a coordinated effort to expand state powers across the continent.

Keywords: [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), bild

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Robert Crumb, Political Correctness and Moral Self-Licensing (52:31–57:27)

American cartoonist Robert Crumb, currently living in France, is discussed regarding his refusal to draw a conventional caricature of Muhammad despite public pressure. The conversation explores "moral self-licensing," where individuals feel they have fulfilled a civic duty simply by changing a social media icon or posting a comment. The hosts reflect on the role of their own show in confirming listeners' suspicions about mainstream narratives.

Keywords: robert crumb, fritz the cat, [muhammad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muhammad.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/18.md)

### 19. 20WattBulb Artwork, Chicken Shit Bingo and Episode 686 (57:28–1:00:07)

The hosts credit artist 20WattBulb for the episode's self-censored graphic and discuss a local Austin event called "Chicken Shit Bingo." The segment explains the mechanics of the gambling game involving a chicken and a numbered board. They also acknowledge the "palindrome" nature of episode 686 and its similarity to Intel processor naming conventions.

Keywords: 20wattbulb, chicken shit bingo, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md), [golden globes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/golden-globes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Executive Producer Donations, Trucking Competitions and Karma (1:00:07–1:05:07)

A significant donation from an anonymous producer in Orange County leads to a discussion on a national trucking competition in Washington D.C. The hosts address the concept of "selling karma," comparing it to the Catholic Church's historical sale of indulgences, while clarifying that the practice was listener-driven. Dame Patricia of Biscayne Bay is knighted following a donation that pushed her over the $1,000 threshold.

Keywords: [mailchimp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mailchimp.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [trucking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trucking.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), indulgences, [biscayne bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biscayne-bay.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Sir Davey, Oklahoma Sooners and Posthumous Knighthoods (1:05:09–1:08:15)

Sir Davey of the Sooner State is knighted, prompting an explanation of the term "Sooner" originating from the 1889 Oklahoma land rush. The segment also covers a request for a "posthumous night" or "white night" designation, which the hosts reject in favor of standard peerage titles. Relationship karma is granted to several producers seeking success in their personal lives.

Keywords: [oklahoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma.md), sooners, land rush, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [relationship karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relationship-karma.md), sir sheets

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Newsletter Growth, MailChimp Merges and Donor Behavior (1:08:15–1:12:01)

The hosts analyze the growth of their mailing list, noting a recurring pattern where donors do not always subscribe to the newsletter themselves. One host describes the process of manually scraping PayPal records to merge new donors into the MailChimp system. They express bafflement at why supporters would donate without seeking the "work of art" that is the official newsletter.

Keywords: [mailchimp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mailchimp.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [subscribers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscribers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/22.md)

### 23. No Agenda Player, Crowdsourced Annotations and SoundCloud Parallel (1:12:13–1:13:48)

The "No Agenda Player" is praised as a premier resource for the show, offering SoundCloud-style annotations and topic-based navigation. The hosts highlight that the tool allows users to tweet specific timestamps and is maintained entirely by the producer community. This crowdsourced effort is contrasted with previous transcript projects that often failed due to the high volume of work required.

Keywords: [no agenda player](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-player.md), [soundcloud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soundcloud.md), [annotations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/annotations.md), [transcripts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transcripts.md), [crowdsourcing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdsourcing.md), [metadata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metadata.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Bicyclist Arrogance, Rules of the Road and Dutch Biking Culture (1:13:48–1:18:15)

A host recounts near-misses with bicyclists who ignore traffic laws and crosswalks, sparking a debate on biking culture in America versus the Netherlands. While acknowledging the efficiency of city bikes in Manhattan, the hosts argue that the U.S. lacks the decades of cultural integration necessary for safe urban cycling. They criticize the "liberal idealism" of installing bike paths without a corresponding shift in the "car culture" psyche.

Keywords: [bicycles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bicycles.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [lance armstrong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lance-armstrong.md), schwinn

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Electric Vehicles, Critical Mass and Grocery Store Harassment (1:18:16–1:21:31)

The discussion on biking extends to electric vehicles, with the hosts arguing that the vast geography of the United States makes them impractical compared to smaller European nations. An anecdote describes a "Critical Mass" event in Berkeley where hundreds of bicyclists allegedly rode through an Andronico's grocery store to harass shoppers. The segment critiques the perceived arrogance of activists who demand others abandon their cars.

Keywords: [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), critical mass, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), [andronico's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andronico-s.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Barack Obama, State of the Union and Audio Imbalance (1:21:32–1:24:09)

President Barack Obama releases a podcast-style message touting a "resurgence" in the American economy ahead of his State of the Union address. The hosts critique the technical quality of the White House audio, noting a persistent 50% volume imbalance between the left and right channels. They mock the repetitive use of the phrase "It's real" in the President's messaging.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [state of the union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-of-the-union.md), [podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast.md), [audio engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md), resurgence, [economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Angela Merkel, UN Secretary General Ambitions and Russian Sanctions (1:24:10–1:28:10)

An RT report suggests that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's support for Russian sanctions, despite economic damage to Germany, is driven by her ambition to become the next UN Secretary General. The theory posits that Merkel must appease Washington to secure the position. The hosts express skepticism about the actual power of the Secretary General role, characterizing it as a job for a "big bureaucrat."

Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [secretary general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-general.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Russian Driving Laws, WHO Mental Disorder Definitions and Media Bias (1:28:11–1:36:12)

Mainstream media reports claim Russia is banning transgender and gay individuals from obtaining driving licenses. However, a deep dive into Russian Federation Law 16440 reveals the legislation actually refers to the World Health Organization's ICD-10 list of mental and behavioral disorders. The hosts clarify that the law targets clinical mental disorders rather than sexual orientation, accusing the BBC and other outlets of misrepresenting the facts to fuel anti-Putin sentiment.

Keywords: [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [dmitry medvedev](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dmitry-medvedev.md), [who](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/who.md), [icd-10](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icd-10.md), [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), driving license

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/28.md)

### 29. German Energy Crisis, Nuclear Phase-Out and Industrial Flight (1:36:13–1:39:10)

Germany's "green" energy policy, which includes phasing out nuclear power by 2022 and reducing coal dependency, has resulted in some of the highest energy bills in Europe. The segment reports that major industrial firms like BASF are shifting investments to North America to take advantage of cheaper energy prices. Critics warn that the lack of a fossil fuel or nuclear base load threatens Germany's status as an industrial powerhouse.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [nuclear power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-power.md), [coal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coal.md), [renewables](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/renewables.md), [basf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/basf.md), [energy bills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-bills.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Bernie Sanders, Nuclear Technology and Political Hypocrisy (1:39:11–1:42:49)

Senator Bernie Sanders expresses opposition to nuclear power, citing costs and waste concerns, which the hosts dismiss as "bullcrap" given modern reactor capabilities. The segment also highlights the hypocrisy of politicians like Sheldon Whitehouse, who advocate for renewables while maintaining personal investments in traditional fossil fuels. The hosts argue that the U.S. frequently signs international climate agreements like the Kyoto Protocol without any intention of ratifying them.

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [nuclear energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-energy.md), [kyoto protocol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kyoto-protocol.md), [sheldon whitehouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheldon-whitehouse.md), [renewables](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/renewables.md), tech

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Windmill Subsidies, European Corruption and Energy Exports (1:42:49–1:45:31)

The hosts discuss the corrupt nature of renewable energy subsidies in Europe, claiming that windmill LLCs are often owned by current and former politicians. They argue that high taxes on gasoline and electricity in Europe are designed to discourage use, leading to a "chain reaction" of companies moving to the U.S. and Canada. The segment emphasizes that North American energy remains a competitive advantage due to conventional gas and oil sands.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [windmills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windmills.md), [subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subsidies.md), [llc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/llc.md), [energy prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-prices.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Iran Gas Sector, Azerbaijan Pipelines and Hillary Clinton (1:45:31–1:48:47)

Iran is reportedly entering the European gas market, competing with the U.S.-backed Southern Gas Corridor. The hosts suggest that the West's recent diplomatic overtures to Iran are motivated by a desire to control the flow of gas from Azerbaijan and the Persian region. They reference Hillary Clinton's past involvement in Baku and the strategic importance of the Eurovision Song Contest as a soft-power tool in the region.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [azerbaijan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/azerbaijan.md), [baku](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baku.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md), southern gas corridor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Elizabeth Warren, Keystone XL and Warren Buffett's Trains (1:48:48–1:53:39)

Senator Elizabeth Warren's opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline is analyzed as a potential favor to major Democratic donors Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. The hosts argue that blocking the pipeline forces Canadian oil onto Buffett's Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) railway, creating a financial bonanza for the rail industry. They characterize Warren's "jobs and environment" rhetoric as a distraction from the underlying "money and power" dynamics.

Keywords: [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [keystone xl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keystone-xl.md), [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [bnsf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bnsf.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Politico as Reference, TransCanada Lobbying and Private Railcars (1:53:40–1:57:35)

The segment critiques the media's reliance on Politico as a primary source, noting its funding by wealthy interests. Elizabeth Warren's claim that TransCanada spent $7 million on lobbying is dismissed as a "spit in the bucket" compared to highway and transportation lobbying. The hosts also discuss Warren Buffett's ownership of NetJets and his "toy train set," expressing envy for the luxury of private railcars.

Keywords: [politico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/politico.md), transcanada, [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md), [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [netjets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netjets.md), railcars

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/34.md)

### 35. CISPA Revival, Sony Hack and Data Sharing (1:57:36–2:00:08)

Representative Dutch Ruppersberger reintroduces the CISPA bill, using the Sony Pictures hack as a primary justification for increased "cyber sharing." The hosts argue that the bill is a move to allow the government access to corporate back-ends under the guise of protection. They remain skeptical of the FBI and NSA's technical expertise in attributing the Sony attack to North Korea.

Keywords: [cispa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cispa.md), [sopa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sopa.md), [sony hack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sony-hack.md), [dutch ruppersberger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dutch-ruppersberger.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/35.md)

### 36. FBI Stingrays, Dirtboxes and Aerial Surveillance (2:00:09–2:03:42)

The FBI is reportedly using "Stingrays" and "Dirtboxes" attached to light aircraft to mimic cell towers and intercept mobile phone data across entire cities. A Wall Street Journal report indicates these devices can scoop up data from thousands of innocent citizens while searching for a single suspect. The hosts announce that a producer with field experience will be providing technical details on how these "electronic dragnets" operate.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [stingray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stingray.md), dirtbox, [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [cell towers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cell-towers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/36.md)

### 37. FBI Blackmail History, James Comey and HSBC Scandals (2:03:43–2:06:29)

The discussion explores the historical use of blackmail by the FBI, dating back to J. Edgar Hoover's secret records. Current FBI Director James Comey's background is scrutinized, including his past roles at Lockheed Martin and the scandal-plagued HSBC bank. The hosts suggest that the ability to intercept communications without a warrant provides the agency with immense leverage over politicians and the Supreme Court.

Keywords: [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [j. edgar hoover](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/j-edgar-hoover.md), [hsbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hsbc.md), [lockheed martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockheed-martin.md), [blackmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackmail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Insider Trading, Silicon Valley Idiots and Hookers (2:06:30–2:09:49)

The hosts speculate on how government surveillance data could be used for insider trading, specifically targeting firms like Kleiner Perkins or individuals like Carl Icahn. They pivot to a discussion on the "dumb douchebags" of Silicon Valley who became billionaires through luck. The segment concludes with a commentary on how "hookers and blow" are now counted toward GDP in the EU, framing sex work as a patriotic economic stimulus.

Keywords: [kleiner perkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kleiner-perkins.md), [carl icahn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carl-icahn.md), [mark cuban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-cuban.md), [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [hookers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/38.md)

### 39. ISIS Geolocation Blunders, Mark Taylor and Hillary's Techno-Experts (2:09:52–2:13:05)

A New Zealander fighting for ISIS, Mark Taylor, unwittingly reveals his location in Syria by failing to turn off geolocation on his tweets. The hosts mock the perceived "social media expertise" of ISIS, suggesting they are encouraged to use these platforms specifically because they are easy to track. They reference Hillary Clinton's description of such individuals as "techno-experts" in her book, contrasting it with their actual operational security failures.

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), mark taylor, [geolocation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geolocation.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Tristan Sochon, Viral Parodies and Jingle Glitches (2:13:06–2:15:50)

A listener email describes a 12-year-old's obsession with a specific song played on the show, leading to a discussion on viral humor and YouTube parodies. The hosts reflect on the "ISIS song" and other recurring jingles that get stuck in listeners' heads. A minor technical glitch occurs during the playback of a James Brown-themed ditty, which the hosts laugh off as a "glitch."

Keywords: tristan sochon, [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [viral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral.md), [parody](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parody.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [james brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-brown.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Audio Filter Secrets, Neve Software and Donor Shout-outs (2:15:55–2:20:15)

In response to a donor's question from Boise, the hosts discuss the specific software audio filters and "stacked" plugins used to achieve the show's professional sound. They mention plans to release the configuration files so others can replicate the system. The segment includes a rapid-fire list of $111.15 donations, a specific amount promoted in the recent newsletter.

Keywords: audio filters, neve, [software](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software.md), [boise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boise.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Voicemail Scripts, Dutch Birthday Circles and Karma Bookkeeping (2:20:15–2:24:14)

The hosts agree to record a voicemail greeting script for a donor on the upcoming Thursday show. They also discuss a "creepy" Dutch tradition called the "birthday circle," where guests sit in a large circle, as seen in recent Facebook photos from Amsterdam. The segment concludes with "karma bookkeeping" for several producers, ensuring their requests are honored after being missed in previous episodes.

Keywords: [voicemail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voicemail.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), birthday circle, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Croatian Real Estate, Split vs. Dubrovnik and Show 700 (2:24:15–2:27:32)

A donation from Split, Croatia, sparks a conversation about the country's "hot" real estate market. The hosts compare the investment potential of Split to the tourist appeal of Dubrovnik. They look forward to reaching episode 700 and encourage listeners to connect with a specific producer if they are traveling to Las Vegas.

Keywords: [croatia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/croatia.md), split, [dubrovnik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dubrovnik.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vegas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Knighthood Ceremony, Library of Congress and Twitter Metadata (2:27:35–2:32:13)

The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for Sir Brian, Dame Patricia, and Sir Davy, complete with the reading of the "Hookers & Blow" menu. They encourage the new knights to tweet photos of their rings and certificates, claiming the images will be preserved in the Library of Congress. A debate ensues regarding whether the Library of Congress stores actual Twitter photos or just the text of tweets.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [library of congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/library-of-congress.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), xif data, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [sealing wax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sealing-wax.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Olympic Bid Losers, Boston 2024 and Abandoned Stadiums (2:32:14–2:35:51)

Boston is selected as the U.S. bid city for the 2024 Summer Olympics, beating out San Francisco and Los Angeles. The hosts characterize the Olympics as a "known loser" for city budgets, citing the abandoned stadiums and economic ruin in Greece and China. They predict that the upcoming games in Rio and Tokyo will similarly strain those nations' economies.

Keywords: [olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympics.md), [boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [rio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rio.md), [tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Uber Crackdown, Single Mothers and Driver Ratings (2:35:52–2:38:36)

Research from a producer in Santa Barbara highlights the increasing pressure on Uber and Lyft drivers, including the requirement to maintain a 4.8-star rating to avoid being fired. While the services were initially a boon for single mothers seeking flexible hours, the "crackdown" on driver statistics and negative reactions to surge pricing are creating a hostile environment. The hosts predict the competition between services will "get very ugly" soon.

Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [lyft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyft.md), [santa barbara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-barbara.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), flexible hours

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Leviathan Gas Field, Israeli Antitrust and Fracking Bankruptcies (2:38:37–2:41:59)

Israel's antitrust commissioner recommends breaking up the partnership managing the Leviathan gas field, a move that could discourage future joint ventures. Meanwhile, the first U.S. fracking enterprise goes bankrupt as oil prices fall below $50 a barrel. The hosts discuss how Saudi Arabia's ability to produce oil at $10 to $25 a barrel puts high-cost projects like Arctic drilling and Canadian tar sands at risk.

Keywords: [leviathan gas field](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leviathan-gas-field.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [noble energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noble-energy.md), [fracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fracking.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Marijuana Legalization, General Petraeus Charges and Benghazi (2:42:00–2:45:35)

A report from the Drug Policy Alliance claims Colorado's first year of legal marijuana has resulted in decreased crime and increased tax revenue. The discussion shifts to the Justice Department seeking felony charges against General David Petraeus for allegedly mishandling classified information. The hosts speculate that the charges are intended to prevent Petraeus from running for president or revealing the "true story" of Benghazi in a potential book.

Keywords: [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [david petraeus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-petraeus.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [felony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/felony.md), [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Puffin Burgers, Foie Gras Ban Overturned and Iceland Delicacies (2:45:39–2:49:59)

A BBC chef faces criticism for eating puffin in Iceland, where the bird is a common food source similar to pigeons. The hosts defend the practice, noting that puffin is a traditional delicacy. They also celebrate a California judge's decision to overturn the state's ban on foie gras, calling the previous restriction unconstitutional and expressing their love for the dish.

Keywords: [puffin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puffin.md), [iceland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iceland.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [foie gras](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foie-gras.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), judge wilson

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Al Sharpton's Viagra, Value for Value and Sign-off (2:49:59–2:53:27)

The show concludes with a humorous story about police finding a Viagra prescription belonging to Al Sharpton during a search of a lawyer's apartment. The hosts remind listeners of the "value for value" model and encourage continued support. They sign off from FEMA Region 6 and Northern Silicon Valley, promising to return on Thursday.

Keywords: [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [viagra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viagra.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/686-fifth-column/chapter/50.md)

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