# Terrorist Narrative > Global leaders pivot toward a war on narratives as technical anomalies in ISIS propaganda and UN intervention in Dutch traditions signal a new era of managed perception. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 670 - **Published:** 2014-11-19 - **Length:** 2h 44m - **Topics:** Extremist Narrative, [G20 Summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20-summit.md), Site Intelligence, [Zwarte Piet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zwarte-piet.md), [MH17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), Cyber Sharing Act, Philae Lander - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative ## About this episode UK Prime Minister David Cameron and Western leaders at the G20 summit in Brisbane have shifted the global security focus toward the extremist narrative as the primary threat to stability. This rhetorical pivot coincides with the release of a 16-minute ISIS video featuring the beheading of Peter Kassig, which technical analysis suggests utilizes green screens and Adobe After Effects post-production. The timing of these events, alongside the confrontation of Vladimir Putin over the MH17 investigation, points to a coordinated effort to justify increased military spending and domestic surveillance. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced a new Pentagon initiative for next-generation weaponry while the Site Intelligence Group, led by Rita Katz, continues to serve as the primary conduit for terrorist media. Katz’s recent study on the radicalization of Colorado teenagers via Twitter is being leveraged to promote intelligence services to the government. Meanwhile, the UN Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent, led by Vereen Shepherd, has intervened in the Dutch Zwarte Piet controversy, signaling a broader international agenda to influence local cultural traditions and legal standards. Technical failures in Manhattan forced a broadcast restart, leading to a breakdown of the best lubricants for microphone boom arms and the importance of equipment checklists. The hosts also explore the psychological triggers of Glenn Beck’s crying on demand and the European Space Agency’s attempt to distract from the Philae lander’s failure by focusing on a scientist’s controversial shirt. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude with a look at the commercialization of tragedy at the 9/11 Memorial Museum. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/transcript.md. ### 1. Manhattan Connectivity Issues, Podcast Technical Difficulties (0:00–2:32) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show by addressing technical failures that forced a restart of the broadcast. They discuss the poor residential internet connectivity in Manhattan and the use of mobile hotspots and routers to maintain a stable connection. Keywords: [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md), [connectivity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/connectivity.md), hotspot, [freedom pop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-pop.md), [podcast production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-production.md), [technical difficulties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-difficulties.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Ranch Hand Lubricant, Professional Tripod Performance (2:34–5:04) A discussion regarding Ranch Hand spray lubricant, a product powered by Thermo Lube, highlights its effectiveness in silencing microphone boom arms. The conversation explores how high-end professional tripods use hydraulic damping and how specialized lubricants can improve the feel of cheap consumer gear. Keywords: [ranch hand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ranch-hand.md), [lubricant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lubricant.md), thermo lube, tripod, hydraulic damping, [microphone stand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microphone-stand.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/2.md) ### 3. TSA Pre-Check Discrepancies, Trusted Traveler Status (5:05–6:57) A travel anecdote describes a discrepancy in TSA Pre-Check status during a flight from Austin to New York. Despite being a law-abiding citizen and trusted traveler, one host was denied Pre-Check while his companion, who had previously faced immigration hurdles, was granted expedited screening. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [pre-check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-check.md), [austin airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-airport.md), [trusted traveler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trusted-traveler.md), [boarding pass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boarding-pass.md), [security screening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-screening.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Ranch Hand Lubricant Branding, Industrial Applications (6:57–8:40) The hosts examine the marketing and availability of Ranch Hand Spray Lubricant, noting its silhouette-based branding and its classification as a penetrating lubricant. The product is marketed for farm, ranch, industrial, and marine applications, though it is noted as being difficult to find at reasonable prices on Amazon. Keywords: [ranch hand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ranch-hand.md), penetrating lubricant, [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), farm industry, marine needs, [branding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/branding.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Uber Experience in New York City, Surge Pricing (8:41–11:20) The hosts recount their first experience using Uber in New York City after arriving at JFK Airport. They discuss the lack of price transparency, the 1.3x surge pricing encountered, and the contrast between the app's convenience and the traditional yellow cab industry. Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [jfk airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-airport.md), [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md), [surge pricing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surge-pricing.md), [taxi industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxi-industry.md), [mobile apps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mobile-apps.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Portable Podcast Studio Setup, Equipment Redundancy (11:20–13:44) A logistical challenge involving a missing microphone mount for a Rode Procaster leads to a visit to Sam Ash Music in New York. The discussion emphasizes the importance of equipment checklists when traveling with a portable podcasting setup to avoid improvised solutions like gaffer tape. Keywords: [rode procaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rode-procaster.md), sam ash music, shock mount, equipment checklist, [podcasting gear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-gear.md), [gaffer tape](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffer-tape.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Carole King Musical, Broadway Theater Etiquette (13:45–16:09) The hosts describe attending the Carole King musical "Beautiful" on Broadway, noting the strict "no photography" policy enforced by theater staff. They reflect on the production's storytelling style, which mirrors the "Jersey Boys" format by exploring the origins of famous songs like "The Locomotion." Keywords: [carole king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carole-king.md), beautiful musical, [broadway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadway.md), [stubhub](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stubhub.md), [theater etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater-etiquette.md), photography ban [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Broadway Audience Demographics, 1964 Theme Party (16:10–18:24) A critique of Broadway marketing suggests that younger audiences are being missed despite the popularity of the music. This transitions into a description of a 1964-themed high school dance party in New York, where attendees dressed in styles ranging from beatniks to early 1960s greasers. Keywords: [broadway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadway.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), 1964, high school dance, beatniks [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Good Morning America, Teen Social Media Anxiety (18:24–22:22) A segment from Good Morning America is analyzed regarding the "100 Likes Club," a social media trend where teenagers feel anxiety or embarrassment if their posts do not reach a specific engagement threshold. The hosts criticize the psychological impact of using digital validation as a metric for popularity. Keywords: [good morning america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/good-morning-america.md), 100 likes club, [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), teen anxiety [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Black Pete Controversy, Dutch Racial Protests (22:23–24:45) Protests in Gouda, Netherlands, regarding the character of Black Pete (Zwarte Piet) resulted in 90 arrests. The controversy centers on whether the black-faced companion of Saint Nicholas is a harmless tradition or a harmful racial stereotype rooted in the history of Dutch slavery. Keywords: [black pete](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-pete.md), [zwarte piet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zwarte-piet.md), [gouda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gouda.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [saint nicholas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saint-nicholas.md), racial stereotyping [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/10.md) ### 11. UN Involvement in Dutch Traditions, Vereen Shepherd (24:46–28:05) The discussion explores the role of the UN Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent, specifically Vereen Shepherd, in challenging the Sinterklaas tradition. The hosts argue that outside influence and a focus on reparations have fueled the domestic conflict in the Netherlands. Keywords: [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), ohchr, vereen shepherd, [sinterklaas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sinterklaas.md), [slavery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slavery.md), [reparations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reparations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Zwarte Piet Niet Organization, UN Racial Agendas (28:07–31:26) The hosts investigate the organizations behind the Black Pete protests, linking them to various migrant and human rights platforms with ties to the United Nations. They compare this to the parents of Michael Brown being invited to testify before the UN Committee Against Torture in Geneva, suggesting a broader UN agenda to highlight racial division. Keywords: zwarte piet niet, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [michael brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-brown.md), [ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ferguson.md), committee against torture, [geneva](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geneva.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Ferguson Investigation, UN Extortion Allegations (31:27–35:25) Suspicion is cast on the UN's involvement in the Ferguson, Missouri investigation, with the hosts characterizing it as a potential "money grab" or extortion scheme. They also mention claims by the group Anonymous regarding the Ferguson police force and the presence of figures like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Keywords: [ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ferguson.md), [michael brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-brown.md), [anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous.md), [ku klux klan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ku-klux-klan.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/13.md) ### 14. MH17 Investigation, Russian Media Propaganda (35:25–38:52) Russian state television aired photos allegedly showing a fighter jet firing on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, which Ukrainian officials quickly dismissed as forgeries. The timing of the release is linked to the G20 summit and the ongoing international pressure on Vladimir Putin regarding the conflict in Ukraine. Keywords: [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), russian state tv, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [g20 summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20-summit.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/14.md) ### 15. G20 Summit in Brisbane, Western Pressure on Putin (38:53–41:20) At the G20 summit in Brisbane, Western leaders including Barack Obama and Stephen Harper confronted Vladimir Putin over Russia's actions in Ukraine. Obama explicitly linked Russia to the downing of MH17, while other leaders threatened further economic sanctions. Keywords: [g20 summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20-summit.md), [brisbane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brisbane.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [stephen harper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-harper.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Angela Merkel's G20 Stance, Putin's Early Departure (41:21–44:28) The hosts analyze Angela Merkel's comments at the G20, suggesting she was more concerned with the economic impact of tensions than with criticizing Putin. They also discuss media reports of Putin leaving the summit early, contrasting the "snub" narrative with scheduled flight plans and ongoing business deals like Goldman Sachs' involvement with Gazprom. Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [brisbane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brisbane.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Military Spending Increases, Next-Generation Weaponry (44:28–46:58) Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced a new Pentagon initiative to develop cutting-edge weapon systems to maintain U.S. military dominance. The hosts link this to increased military spending in Sweden following a suspected Russian submarine sighting and the U.S. selling defense equipment to South Korea. Keywords: [chuck hagel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-hagel.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [military spending](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-spending.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), high-tech weapons [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/17.md) ### 18. David Cameron on Terrorism, Extremist Narratives (46:59–51:55) UK Prime Minister David Cameron addressed the G20, dismissing poverty and foreign policy as root causes of terrorism. Instead, he identified the "extremist narrative" as the primary threat, which the hosts interpret as a justification for a broader crackdown on free speech, including blogging and podcasting. Keywords: [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), extremist narrative, [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [radicalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radicalization.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/18.md) ### 19. No Agenda Producer Donations, Executive Producer Credits (51:58–56:12) The hosts acknowledge the financial support of the "No Agenda" producers, including a posthumous knighthood for Tom Kumbhara. They thank specific donors from Australia, Denmark, and the United States, while noting a recent "doldrums" in overall donation levels. Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), sir snorkel, martin anderson, [copenhagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copenhagen.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Show Financial Doldrums, Value of Cynicism (56:12–58:59) A discussion on the current decline in show donations explores whether the audience is experiencing financial hardship or "truth fatigue." The hosts argue that their brand of cynicism provides listeners with the mental tools and "punchlines" necessary to navigate a depressing news cycle. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [cynicism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cynicism.md), [truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truth.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), dog days [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/20.md) ### 21. ISIS Beheading Video Analysis, Peter Kassig (58:59–1:03:42) The hosts deconstruct a 16-minute ISIS video purportedly showing the beheading of American citizen Peter Kassig. They point out technical anomalies suggesting the use of green screens and Adobe After Effects, questioning the authenticity of the production and the identity of "Jihadi John." Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [peter kassig](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-kassig.md), [jihadi john](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jihadi-john.md), [green screen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-screen.md), adobe after effects, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Site Intelligence Group, Rita Katz Background (1:03:43–1:07:46) The Site Intelligence Group, founded by Rita Katz, is identified as the primary source for ISIS media. The hosts detail Katz's personal history in Iraq and her history of undercover work in the U.S., questioning if her background creates a conflict of interest in her role as an intelligence provider to the government. Keywords: [site intelligence group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/site-intelligence-group.md), [rita katz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-katz.md), jihadist monitoring, [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), undercover investigator, [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Radicalization of Colorado Teenagers, Social Media Footprints (1:07:48–1:12:14) Rita Katz's analysis of the radicalization of four Colorado girls is discussed, focusing on how they were recruited via Twitter and "password-protected message boards." The hosts remain skeptical of the narrative, comparing the girls' behavior to typical teenage rebellion rather than a sophisticated terrorist plot. Keywords: [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [recruitment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recruitment.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [rita katz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-katz.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Female Jihadist Recruitment, White Paper Marketing (1:12:15–1:16:17) The hosts critique Rita Katz's "study" on female jihadists, which uses the online transformation of a girl named "Grape" as a case study. They suggest the report serves as a sales pitch for Katz's intelligence services, linking high social media usage to the risk of radicalization. Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [recruitment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recruitment.md), [white paper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-paper.md), ask.fm, paradise, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Video Production Skepticism, Domains by Proxy (1:16:18–1:18:59) The hosts express skepticism regarding the origin of ISIS videos, noting that the Site Intelligence Group uses "Domains by Proxy" to hide ownership details. They imply that the high-end production quality suggests the videos may be manufactured propaganda rather than authentic battlefield recordings. Keywords: [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [video production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-production.md), domains by proxy, wild west domains, [rita katz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-katz.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/25.md) ### 26. General Martin Dempsey, ISIS Midgets Comment (1:18:59–1:21:33) General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Baghdad and characterized ISIS fighters as "midgets running around with a radical ideology." The hosts mock the comment, leading to a humorous investigation into Dempsey's actual height compared to President Obama. Keywords: [martin dempsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-dempsey.md), [baghdad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baghdad.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), midgets, [ideology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ideology.md), [height](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/height.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Height in Media, Michael Jackson Anecdote (1:21:33–1:24:50) An anecdote about Michael Jackson using an "apple crate" to appear taller during an MTV award ceremony illustrates how height is manipulated in media. The hosts apply this to political figures, discussing the heights of General Dempsey and incoming Attorney General Loretta Lynch. Keywords: [michael jackson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-jackson.md), apple crate, [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [martin dempsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-dempsey.md), [loretta lynch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/loretta-lynch.md), [height](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/height.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Wag the Dog Footage, Saudi Arabia Deconstruction (1:24:51–1:28:46) The "brave Syrian boy" rescue video was revealed to be a staged production by Norwegian filmmakers, which the hosts use to question the authenticity of other Middle Eastern conflict footage. They also discuss General Wesley Clark's comments on Saudi Arabia and the potential for ISIS to destabilize the Saudi royal family. Keywords: syrian boy video, norwegian filmmakers, [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [wahhabism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wahhabism.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [wesley clark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wesley-clark.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/28.md) ### 29. US Assistance to Burma, NGO Funding (1:28:48–1:33:21) President Obama's visit to Burma (Myanmar) is analyzed through a White House fact sheet detailing $225 million in U.S. assistance. The hosts characterize this funding as support for NGOs and "economic hitmen" designed to counter Chinese influence and secure regional pipelines. Keywords: [burma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burma.md), [myanmar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/myanmar.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [aung san suu kyi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aung-san-suu-kyi.md), [nGO](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ngo.md), [economic hitmen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-hitmen.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Producer Credits, Global Donation Sources (1:33:22–1:37:37) The hosts read credits for producers who donated specific amounts, including "palindrome" donations. They note contributions from Mexico, Croatia, and Switzerland, while briefly discussing the lack of mainstream media coverage regarding the current political unrest in Mexico. Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), palidrome, [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [croatia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/croatia.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/30.md) ### 31. No Agenda Financing Model, Value for Value (1:37:38–1:40:59) Adam Curry reiterates the "Value for Value" funding model, explaining that the show relies entirely on voluntary producer donations rather than advertising. He warns that current support levels may prevent future projects, such as a planned "Hot Pockets" tour of Australia. Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), australia tour, [producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producers.md), [financial support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-support.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Knighting Ceremony, Posthumous Induction (1:41:00–1:46:07) A formal knighthood ceremony is held for Francis Lambert (Sir Crovatos) and Tom Kumbhara. The latter is inducted posthumously, with the hosts and the chat room community sending "karma" to his family and arranging for his commemorative ring to be sent to his widow, Angela. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), tom kumbhara, francis lambert, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Robert O'Neill, Osama Bin Laden Account (1:46:09–1:49:07) The hosts critique Navy SEAL Robert O'Neill's public account of killing Osama bin Laden, which was featured on Fox News with Bill O'Reilly. They express skepticism about the conflicting narratives of the raid and remind listeners of earlier reports that Bin Laden died of kidney failure in 2001. Keywords: robert o'neill, [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [navy seals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy-seals.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [dialysis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dialysis.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/33.md) ### 34. 9/11 Museum Exhibits, Bin Laden Artifacts (1:49:08–1:53:24) The 9/11 Memorial Museum's new exhibit featuring a uniform from a SEAL Team 6 member and a brick from the Abbottabad compound is discussed. The hosts criticize the "postmodern" nature of displaying these artifacts and the lack of photographic evidence of Bin Laden's death. Keywords: 9/11 museum, [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [navy seals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy-seals.md), [artifacts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artifacts.md), brick, museum exhibit [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Commercialization of Tragedy, Public Grieving (1:53:24–1:56:50) The hosts compare the sale of Berlin Wall fragments to the potential commercialization of artifacts from the Bin Laden raid. They argue that the public is being pacified with "trivial tokens" and "militarized opening ceremonies" instead of receiving transparent answers about events like the MH17 crash. Keywords: [berlin wall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berlin-wall.md), [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), grieving, [tokens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokens.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [education system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education-system.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Robert O'Neill Interview, SEAL Protocol (1:56:50–1:59:07) Further analysis of the Robert O'Neill interview focuses on his description of the "methods of entry" used during the Bin Laden raid. The hosts compare the lack of actual mission footage to the high-action commercials for video games like "Call of Duty." Keywords: robert o'neill, [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [navy seals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy-seals.md), methods of entry, helmet cam, [call of duty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/call-of-duty.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Rosetta Mission, Philae Comet Lander Failure (1:59:08–2:02:08) The European Space Agency's Philae lander mission to Comet 67P is characterized as a "fail" after its anchoring harpoons failed to fire, causing it to bounce into a dark crevice. The hosts discuss the limitations of the 10-year-old battery and transmitter technology used in the spacecraft. Keywords: rosetta mission, philae lander, comet 67p, esa, harpoons, [space exploration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-exploration.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Rosetta Scientist Shirt Controversy, Media Distraction (2:02:09–2:04:04) The media controversy surrounding Rosetta scientist Matt Taylor's "misogynistic" shirt is highlighted as a distraction from the technical failures of the comet landing. The hosts mock the "human interest" focus of the reporting while the lander remains sideways in the dark. Keywords: matt taylor, shirtgate, [misogyny](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misogyny.md), [media distraction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-distraction.md), comet lander, [science](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Glenn Beck, Neuro-Linguistic Programming (2:04:04–2:07:31) The hosts analyze a clip of Glenn Beck, suggesting he uses neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and "crying on demand" to manipulate his audience. They specifically point out a strange "disco ball" reference in a pitch for a privacy product as a potential psychological trigger. Keywords: [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [nLP](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nlp.md), [crying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crying.md), disco ball, [goldline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldline.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Stop Sign Trigger, No Agenda Donations (2:07:33–2:10:18) In a humorous attempt to use NLP on their own audience, the hosts suggest that listeners should think about donating to the "No Agenda" show every time they see a stop sign. A brief debate ensues regarding whether a stop sign is a hexagon or an octagon. Keywords: stop sign, [nLP](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nlp.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), octagon, trigger word, [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/40.md) ### 41. Cyber Information Sharing Act, Richard Clark (2:10:18–2:12:17) The Feinstein-Chambliss cyber sharing bill is discussed, with Richard Clark providing "fear, uncertainty, and doubt" regarding the vulnerability of the U.S. electric grid. The bill would indemnify corporations for sharing user data with the government in the name of cybersecurity. Keywords: [cISA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisa.md), [richard clark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-clark.md), [cyber security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-security.md), [electric grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-grid.md), [scada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scada.md), [information sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/information-sharing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/41.md) ### 42. SCADA Security, Generator Vulnerability Myths (2:12:17–2:15:32) The hosts debunk claims that software attacks can cause power grid generators to physically explode, arguing that hardware breakers would prevent such outcomes. They cite emails from industrial experts suggesting that most control systems are air-gapped or run on outdated, unpatched Windows machines that are rarely touched by IT. Keywords: [scada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scada.md), [generators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generators.md), [stuxnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stuxnet.md), [cyber attack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-attack.md), us-cert, [industrial control systems](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/industrial-control-systems.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/42.md) ### 43. Cyber Threat Narrative, Information Sharing Legislation (2:15:33–2:19:23) Richard Clark and Congressman Jim Langevin argue for the passage of information-sharing legislation to close the "aperture of vulnerability" against non-state actors like ISIS. The hosts remain skeptical, viewing the bipartisan push as a way for the government to strong-arm the private sector into providing data. Keywords: [richard clark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-clark.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [lone wolves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-wolves.md), aperture of vulnerability, [cISA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisa.md), bipartisan support [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/43.md) ### 44. Ebola Indemnification, Public Law 85-804 (2:19:23–2:22:40) A presidential memorandum is examined that authorizes USAID to use Public Law 85-804 to indemnify contractors working on the Ebola response in Africa. The hosts link this to the broader trend of government indemnification for corporations, similar to the protections given to telecommunications companies for warrantless wiretapping. Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [indemnification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indemnification.md), public law 85-804, [contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contractors.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/44.md) ### 45. Band-Aid 30, Ebola Awareness Campaign (2:22:41–2:26:36) The 30th anniversary of Band-Aid features a new recording of "Do They Know It's Christmas?" to raise funds for the Ebola crisis. The hosts characterize the celebrity-driven campaign as a "trinket" for public awareness that masks a larger geopolitical takeover of Western Africa. Keywords: band-aid 30, [bono](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bono.md), [bob geldof](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-geldof.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Police Procedurals, Search Warrant Rights (2:26:36–2:29:50) The hosts criticize television police procedurals like "Blue Bloods" for portraying the bypass of search warrants as heroic. They share a producer's story about resisting a warrantless neighborhood search during a kidnapping investigation, emphasizing the erosion of Fourth Amendment rights. Keywords: [blue bloods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-bloods.md), [police procedurals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-procedurals.md), [search warrants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-warrants.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), [civil rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-rights.md), [brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/46.md) ### 47. Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg Tax Leaks (2:29:52–2:34:06) EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker defended himself against revelations of "sweetheart" tax deals made while he was Prime Minister of Luxembourg. The hosts discuss the lack of accountability in the unelected EU leadership and the impact of tax avoidance on other member states. Keywords: [jean-claude juncker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jean-claude-juncker.md), [luxembourg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/luxembourg.md), [tax avoidance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-avoidance.md), [eu commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eu-commission.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/47.md) ### 48. Obamacare Enrollment Windows, Insurance Industry Logic (2:34:06–2:38:38) The hosts debate the logic behind the three-month enrollment window for the Affordable Care Act. While one host finds the restriction annoying, the other explains that the window exists to prevent people from only purchasing insurance after they become ill, which would collapse the insurance pool. Keywords: [obamacare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obamacare.md), [healthcare.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare-gov.md), enrollment window, [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md), [pre-existing conditions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-existing-conditions.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/670-terrorist-narrative/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Pharmaceutical Supply Limits, Insurance Scams (2:38:38–2:41:26) A discussion on the frustrations of the healthcare system covers 30-day limits on thyroid medication and the rising costs of veterinary care. The hosts argue that the introduction of insurance into any market, including pet care, inevitably leads to price inflation and "scam" behavior. 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