# Barama

> The White House installs a political operative to manage the Ebola crisis as federal agencies move to bypass consumer encryption and expand bulk data collection.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 662
- **Published:** 2014-10-20
- **Length:** 2h 59m
- **Topics:** Ebola Czar, [Encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [Hunter Biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md), [Travel Ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-ban.md), [Boko Haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [Native Advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2

## About this episode

President Barack Obama appointed Ron Klain as the White House Ebola Response Coordinator, sparking immediate backlash from Republican leaders like Senator Ted Cruz who criticized Klain’s lack of medical expertise. While the administration defends Klain as an implementation expert, the move coincides with a heated debate over travel bans for West African nations. The White House maintains that such restrictions would be counterproductive, despite rising public anxiety fueled by incidents like the quarantine of a tour bus on Capitol Hill.

Media outlets including ABC, MSNBC, and CBS have been observed echoing specific administration talking points to frame the Ebola crisis as a humanitarian issue rather than a border security threat. Meanwhile, Michael Osterholm of CIDRAP is calling for massive vaccine investment, and FBI Director James Comey has publicly challenged Apple and Google over default encryption, claiming it creates a dark space for law enforcement. In the UK, Home Secretary Theresa May defended GCHQ bulk data collection, famously asserting that such practices do not constitute mass surveillance. Further political shifts emerge as Hunter Biden faces a Navy discharge for cocaine use, potentially impacting Joe Biden’s 2016 prospects, while Governor Andrew Cuomo is positioned as a primary alternative.

The seventh anniversary of the program approaches with a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Terry the Cheap Bastard and Dame Bang Bang. Technical segments cover the failure of Seiki 4K upscaler cables and the decline of Sirius XM debt-fueled broadcasting. The show concludes with a look back at Mark Zuckerberg’s early Harvard messages and a critique of the direct-to-consumer marketing strategies used in modern British pharmaceutical advertisements.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/transcript.md.

### 1. Dr. Kiki Sanford Flu Shot Controversy and Herd Immunity (0:00–4:21)

A clip of Dr. Kiki Sanford discussing her sore arm after a flu shot prompts a critique of her claim that the experience was "worth it" without further context. The discussion transitions into the concept of herd immunity, questioning the 70% effectiveness rate of seasonal vaccines and the necessity of annual shots.

Keywords: [dr. kiki sanford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-kiki-sanford.md), [flu shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md), vaccine effectiveness, [influenza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/influenza.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Ebola Jingle Submissions and Enola Gay Reference (4:21–7:16)

Listener-submitted jingles regarding the Ebola virus are showcased, including contributions from donor Robert Roberto Suarez. One jingle parodies "Enola Gay" by Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark, leading to a brief reflection on the song's historical reference to the Hiroshima bombing.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), robert roberto suarez, orchestral maneuvers in the dark, [enola gay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/enola-gay.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Ron Klain Appointment as White House Ebola Response Coordinator (7:18–15:08)

President Barack Obama appointed Ron Klain as the Ebola Response Coordinator, a move criticized by Republicans who labeled him an "Ebola Czar." White House spokesperson Josh Earnest defended the choice, describing Klain as an "implementation expert" rather than a medical professional, highlighting his political background with Al Gore and Joe Biden.

Keywords: [ron klain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-klain.md), ebola czar, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [josh earnest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/josh-earnest.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), implementation expert

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Travel Ban Debate and Political Strategy for Midterm Elections (15:08–19:48)

Republican leaders, including Senator Ted Cruz, called for a travel ban on West African countries to prevent the spread of Ebola. President Obama expressed "philosophical" objections to the ban, arguing it would be less effective than current protocols and could lead to "broken travel" where individuals hide their origins.

Keywords: [travel ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-ban.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [west africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-africa.md), [midterm elections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midterm-elections.md), [political strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-strategy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Media Indoctrination and Special Effects in Scanners (19:49–23:17)

The psychological impact of Ebola coverage is compared to horror films like "Outbreak" and "Contagion." A detailed tangent explores the low-tech special effects used in the 1981 film "Scanners," specifically the practical method of using a shotgun to achieve the famous head-explosion scene.

Keywords: [scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scanners.md), david cronenberg, [special effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-effects.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [media fear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-fear.md), horror movies

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Media Echo Chamber and Ebola Talking Points (23:18–30:42)

Mainstream media outlets including ABC, MSNBC, and CBS are analyzed for echoing White House talking points against Ebola travel bans. Pundits used analogies involving leaking bathtubs to argue that the virus must be contained at the source in Africa rather than through border restrictions.

Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [talking points](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/talking-points.md), ebola response

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Sam Stein and the Holistic Argument for Africa (30:42–35:50)

Huffington Post reporter Sam Stein argued for a "holistic" view of the Ebola crisis, suggesting that a U.S. travel ban would exacerbate panic and social instability in West Africa. The analysis suggests this rhetoric is a strategy to shift the focus from American safety to international humanitarian concerns.

Keywords: sam stein, [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md), [west africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-africa.md), holistic approach, [travel ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-ban.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Capitol Hill Bus Quarantine Incident and Media Sensationalism (35:51–38:45)

A tour bus on Capitol Hill was detained and passengers quarantined after a person became ill and vomited in a parking lot. The incident was reported as national news despite CDC guidelines stating Ebola is not spread through casual contact or air, illustrating heightened public anxiety.

Keywords: [capitol hill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitol-hill.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), bus quarantine, ebola scare, [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Michael Osterholm and Ebola Vaccine Funding Requests (38:46–44:24)

Michael Osterholm of CIDRAP made a public plea for massive investment in Ebola vaccines, describing the situation in Africa as a "tanker truck waiting for a match." The NIH Director claimed a vaccine might already exist if not for prior budget cuts, a narrative characterized as a political maneuver for increased research spending.

Keywords: [michael osterholm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-osterholm.md), [cidrap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cidrap.md), [ebola vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola-vaccine.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [budget cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget-cuts.md), [funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/9.md)

### 10. David Klain Twitter Activity and Media Ratings (44:25–48:59)

The Twitter account of Ron Klain's brother, David Klain, is highlighted for its aggressive partisan posts. Additionally, the discussion notes that CNN's ratings doubled during Ebola hearings, suggesting the media has a financial incentive to maintain high levels of public concern.

Keywords: david klain, [ron klain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-klain.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), [lz granderson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lz-granderson.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/10.md)

### 11. No Agenda Newsletter and Listener Artwork (49:00–53:50)

The hosts discuss the latest No Agenda newsletter and the selection of episode artwork by 33 Timbers featuring an Ebola survival kit. A listener, Sir Ramsey Cain, is mentioned for framing podcast artwork in his office, and the identity of commentator LZ Granderson is clarified.

Keywords: [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), 33 timbers, [ramsey cain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ramsey-cain.md), [lz granderson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lz-granderson.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Sir Terry the Cheap Bastard Donation and Challenge (53:51–57:12)

Terry Stelly from Mobile, Alabama, donated $1,000 to become an "Instant Knight" under the name Sir Terry the Cheap Bastard. He issued a "No Agenda Challenge" to his friend John P from Lafayette, promising to match his future donations dollar-for-dollar.

Keywords: terry stelly, [mobile alabama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mobile-alabama.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knight.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Dame Bang Bang and the Rain Stick Request (57:13–1:01:33)

Christina Gilo, a roller derby athlete known as "Chrissy Bang Bang," is inducted as a Dame. She requested a "rain stick jam session" to bring relief to Santa Barbara, leading to a brief performance with a rain stick on air.

Keywords: christina gilo, [roller derby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roller-derby.md), mission city brawlin' bettys, [rain stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rain-stick.md), [santa barbara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-barbara.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Technical Issues with 4K TV Cables and Ham Radio Forums (1:01:35–1:06:31)

A discussion on technical failures involving a Seiki 4K upscaler cable leads to a broader conversation about the "death of broadcasting." The hosts react to criticism from ham radio enthusiasts on Reddit regarding their views on the obsolescence of traditional airwaves.

Keywords: seiki, [4k tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/4k-tv.md), [hdmi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hdmi.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [reddit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reddit.md), [broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Sirius XM Debt and the Decline of Terrestrial Radio (1:06:32–1:10:58)

The financial viability of Sirius XM and Clear Channel is questioned, noting their significant debt loads. The hosts argue that the high cost of replacing satellites and the centralization of programming have degraded the quality of terrestrial and satellite radio compared to the internet model.

Keywords: [sirius xm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sirius-xm.md), [clear channel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clear-channel.md), [satellite radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellite-radio.md), [terrestrial radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrestrial-radio.md), [broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Tom Kilbride Book and Kindle Unlimited (1:10:58–1:14:49)

Author Tom Kilbride released a fictional book titled "No Agenda: Saving America, Shut Up Slaves," which depicts the podcast hosts being recruited by the CIA. The segment touches on the pricing and availability of the title through Amazon's Kindle Unlimited service.

Keywords: [tom kilbride](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-kilbride.md), [amazon kindle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon-kindle.md), no agenda book, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [fiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiction.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Boko Haram and the Chibok Schoolgirls Burden (1:14:50–1:18:02)

A representative from the Atlantic Council suggested that the 200 kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls had become a "burden" to Boko Haram, potentially leading to their release. The analysis questions the authenticity of the kidnapping narrative, suggesting it serves as a pretext for foreign military intervention in oil-rich regions.

Keywords: [boko haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [chibok girls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chibok-girls.md), [atlantic council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlantic-council.md), [oil theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-theft.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Gamergate Controversy and Media Standing (1:18:03–1:20:25)

The hosts decline to cover the Gamergate controversy in detail, stating they lack "standing" in the gaming community. They characterize the conflict as a distraction involving Twitter bullying and suggest that those feeling threatened should simply leave the social media platform.

Keywords: [gamergate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gamergate.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [misogyny](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misogyny.md), [gaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaming.md), [harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harassment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Executive Order 13681 and the Bank Bailout (1:20:26–1:26:59)

President Obama signed Executive Order 13681, ostensibly to improve the security of consumer financial transactions. The analysis argues this is a hidden bailout for banks, as it mandates the government-funded upgrade of payment terminals to "chip and pin" technology, specifically for the EBT and Social Security systems.

Keywords: executive order 13681, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [credit card fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-card-fraud.md), [chip and pin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chip-and-pin.md), [ebt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebt.md), [jpmorgan chase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jpmorgan-chase.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Identity Theft Remediation and Citibank Promotion (1:27:00–1:34:13)

The "Buy Secure" initiative is criticized for promoting Citibank and FICO scores through official White House channels. The executive order also expands information sharing between federal law enforcement and private companies, which is viewed as an infringement on privacy under the guise of security.

Keywords: [identity theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-theft.md), [citibank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citibank.md), [fico score](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fico-score.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [information sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/information-sharing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Viagra Commercial Critique and Honest Advertising (1:34:16–1:36:38)

A British Viagra commercial is critiqued for its direct and potentially offensive approach to discussing erectile dysfunction. The hosts debate the effectiveness of the ad's "milfy" spokesperson and the cultural shift toward bluntness in pharmaceutical marketing.

Keywords: [viagra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viagra.md), [erectile dysfunction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erectile-dysfunction.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [pharmaceutical](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical.md), [commercial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commercial.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Hamburger Helper and the Rise of Poverty Staples (1:36:42–1:39:15)

A partnership between Hamburger Helper and Feeding America is highlighted as a sign of the "Great Depression" returning. The discussion notes the proliferation of restaurants serving only macaroni and cheese as a cultural indicator of economic hardship.

Keywords: [hamburger helper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamburger-helper.md), [food banks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-banks.md), [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md), [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md), [poverty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poverty.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Student Loan Forgiveness for Public Servants (1:39:16–1:43:42)

Senate Bill 2826, the Strengthening Forgiveness for Public Servants Act, is identified as a political tool to attract Millennial voters. The bill offers incremental student loan forgiveness for those employed by the federal government, which the hosts characterize as a form of "debt slavery."

Keywords: [student loans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-loans.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), higher education act, [public service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-service.md), [debt slavery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-slavery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Libyan Civil War and General Khalifa Haftar (1:43:43–1:45:23)

General Khalifa Haftar launched an assault against Islamist groups in Benghazi, including Ansar al-Sharia. The ongoing instability in Libya is framed as the failed legacy of the 2011 intervention that led to the death of Muammar Gaddafi.

Keywords: [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), khalifa haftar, [ansar al-sharia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ansar-al-sharia.md), [tripoli](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tripoli.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Matt Lee vs. Rear Admiral John Kirby on NATO Expansion (1:45:24–1:55:23)

AP reporter Matt Lee challenged Rear Admiral John Kirby during a State Department briefing regarding the definition of "revisionist Russia." Lee argued that NATO's eastward expansion is the primary reason Russian troops are on NATO's doorstep, leading to a visible "meltdown" by Kirby.

Keywords: [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [john kirby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kirby.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Chernobyl Sarcophagus Funding and Nuclear Fear (1:55:27–1:58:34)

A 600 million euro shortfall for a new protective cover over the Chernobyl reactor is reported. Expert Rod Adams suggests the project is a "make-work" initiative with little impact on public safety, serving instead as "fear porn" to discourage nuclear power investment in Europe.

Keywords: [chernobyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chernobyl.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), sarcophagus, [nuclear energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-energy.md), [rod adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rod-adams.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Nuclear Energy Safety and Hospital Tube Systems (1:58:35–2:02:55)

The hosts advocate for nuclear energy as the safest and cleanest power source, despite public fear. This transitions into a listener email from a nurse explaining that hospital pneumatic tube systems are not a risk for Ebola contamination due to strict vacuum-sealed protocols.

Keywords: [nuclear energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-energy.md), [breeder reactors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breeder-reactors.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), hospital tubes, [medical safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-safety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Ebola Conspiracy Theories and Media Discrediting (2:02:57–2:08:37)

The New York Times published an analysis debunking Ebola conspiracy theories, grouping political figures like Rush Limbaugh with celebrities like Chris Brown. The hosts argue this is a tactic to discredit any skepticism regarding the government's handling of the outbreak.

Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [rush limbaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rush-limbaugh.md), chris brown, [conspiracy theories](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theories.md), [bioweapon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bioweapon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Native Advertising and the End of Journalism (2:08:38–2:17:04)

The rise of "native advertising" in major publications like The New York Times and The Guardian is examined. These paid placements are designed to mimic editorial content, leading to a loss of journalistic credibility as corporate interests like Dell and Unilever fund news-like stories.

Keywords: [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md), [neiman lab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neiman-lab.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [unilever](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unilever.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Listener Donations and Seventh Anniversary Preparation (2:17:04–2:25:16)

A list of donors is read, including contributions from Raleigh, Seattle, and the UK. The hosts remind listeners of the upcoming seventh anniversary of the show on October 26th and encourage "sacks of sevens" in donations to support the program.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anniversary.md), [raleigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raleigh.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Knighting Ceremony and MDMA Warning (2:25:22–2:29:54)

Roberto Suarez, Terry Stelly, and Christina Gilo are officially knighted. The segment includes a warning against the use of "Molly" (MDMA), citing recent deaths at the Amsterdam Dance Event due to contaminated pills.

Keywords: roberto suarez, terry stelly, christina gilo, [mdma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mdma.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Hunter Biden Navy Discharge and Joe Biden's Political Future (2:29:54–2:34:13)

Hunter Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden, was administratively discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine. The timing of the report is viewed as a "low blow" intended to discredit Joe Biden's potential 2016 presidential ambitions.

Keywords: [hunter biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), navy reserve, [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Andrew Cuomo and the 2016 Democratic Primary (2:34:14–2:37:57)

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is being positioned as a potential 2016 candidate, possibly as an alternative to Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton. The hosts discuss the political history of the Cuomo family and the Democratic Party's perceived need for a female candidate.

Keywords: [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [mario cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mario-cuomo.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Theresa May and Bulk Data Collection Defense (2:37:58–2:44:22)

UK Home Secretary Theresa May defended GCHQ's bulk data collection before Parliament, famously claiming that "bulk data is not mass surveillance." She used a "haystack and needle" analogy to justify the storage of vast amounts of citizen metadata for national security purposes.

Keywords: [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [gchq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gchq.md), bulk data, [mass surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-surveillance.md), [mi5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi5.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Russell Brand and James Comey Observations (2:44:24–2:45:52)

Russell Brand is characterized as a "distraction" following his attempt to confront Sean Hannity at Fox News. Meanwhile, FBI Director James Comey is identified as a key figure to watch regarding his stance on surveillance and law enforcement.

Keywords: [russell brand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russell-brand.md), [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [distraction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/distraction.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/35.md)

### 36. James Comey on Encryption and the "Front Door" (2:45:53–2:59:39)

FBI Director James Comey delivered a speech at the Brookings Institution criticizing Apple and Google for implementing default encryption. Comey argued that encryption leads to a "very dark place" for law enforcement and called for a "front door" approach to accessing consumer data through legal mandates.

Keywords: [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [calea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calea.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Mark Zuckerberg IMs and Show Sign-off (2:59:39–3:03:23)

Leaked instant messages from Mark Zuckerberg's early days at Harvard are revisited, in which he mocked users for trusting him with their data. The show concludes with a reminder of the value-for-value model and a sign-off from FEMA Region 6 and Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [harvard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/662-barama-2/chapter/37.md)

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