# Clog the Pipes

> Federal regulators prepare for a simulated bank collapse while the White House uses the metaphor of clogged pipes to sell a new era of internet regulation.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 660
- **Published:** 2014-10-12
- **Length:** 3h 16m
- **Topics:** [Net Neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [Ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [Gulen Movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gulen-movement.md), [Haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [Satya Nadella](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satya-nadella.md), Citizenfour, AAUW
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes

## About this episode

President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry are pushing for expanded federal oversight of the internet under the guise of net neutrality, using metaphors of clogged pipes to justify FCC intervention. This regulatory shift coincides with a massive PR campaign by the Fight for the Future organization, which critics argue is misleading the public into supporting policies that will ultimately enable the censorship of peer-to-peer traffic and hate speech. Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation faces renewed scrutiny over its influence in Haiti as Prime Minister Laurent Lamothe visits Washington to tout recovery efforts that many locals claim have left thousands still living in tents.

Global health officials at the World Health Organization are promoting the Bluetooth handshake as a non-contact alternative to traditional greetings to curb the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Despite the alarm, the virus appears to stop abruptly at the Ivory Coast border, raising questions about the accuracy of CDC mapping and the narrative of bushmeat origins. In the corporate world, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella is walking back comments suggesting women should rely on good karma rather than asking for raises, while the American Association of University Women faces criticism for spending more on telemarketing consultants than they raise in actual donations.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak dissect the branding of Edward Snowden in the documentary Citizenfour, noting the involvement of eBay billionaire Jeff Skoll and Participant Media. The hosts also explore the curious case of Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish scholar living in a Pennsylvania compound under alleged CIA protection, whose movement is currently being promoted through the crowdfunded film Love Is a Verb. Between knighting ceremonies for the No Agenda Round Table, the duo examines the legal push for chimpanzee personhood and the suspicious timing of a joint US-UK bank failure simulation.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak on Hipster Beard Trends (0:00–4:17)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 660 of the No Agenda show from FEMA Region 6 and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry discusses his decision to grow a beard at the request of his wife, Mickey, noting a current trend among hipsters. The hosts reference a Twitter post by Mickey regarding marital dynamics and the wisdom of following a wife's instructions.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [beards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beards.md), [hipsters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipsters.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [mickey curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-curry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Fethullah Gulen and the Love Is a Verb Documentary (4:18–14:59)

Adam Curry discusses the Fethullah Gulen movement following a dinner with producer Mark Workman, who is working on a documentary about the tuna trade. The conversation shifts to a crowdfunded documentary titled Love Is a Verb, directed by Terry Spencer Hesser, which Curry characterizes as a puff piece for the Gulen movement. Gulen is described as a Turkish scholar living in a Pennsylvania compound under CIA protection while allegedly undermining the government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Keywords: [fethullah gulen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fethullah-gulen.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [indiegogo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiegogo.md), terry spencer hesser, [erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erdogan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Niagara Foundation and Terry Spencer Hesser's Industrial Film Background (15:00–23:03)

The hosts analyze the background of director Terry Spencer Hesser and her ties to the Gulen-funded Niagara Foundation. Curry notes that Hesser's career is rooted in corporate industrial films for companies like McDonald's and Waste Management, suggesting her documentary is a paid promotional tool. They critique the film's portrayal of Gulen as a monkish, spiritual figure compared to Rumi, despite his movement's political influence and controversial charter schools.

Keywords: niagara foundation, hakan berberoglu, [emmy awards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmy-awards.md), industrial films, [fethullah gulen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fethullah-gulen.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Sarah Silverman and the Gender Wage Gap Narrative (23:08–27:09)

Adam Curry introduces a clip from comedian Sarah Silverman regarding the gender wage gap, where she uses the term "vagina tax" to describe the 78-cent-on-the-dollar statistic. The hosts argue that this figure is a debunked political meme used to influence female voters. Curry expresses disappointment in the modern feminist movement for focusing on slogans rather than global women's rights issues.

Keywords: [sarah silverman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-silverman.md), gender wage gap, [feminism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/feminism.md), vagina tax, [equal pay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equal-pay.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on Women Asking for Raises (27:09–31:00)

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella faces criticism after suggesting at a conference that women should not ask for raises and instead rely on "good karma" and the system. The hosts play a CBS report featuring Molly Wood, which details Nadella's subsequent apology and backpedaling. The segment highlights the internal diversity report at Microsoft showing a predominantly male workforce.

Keywords: [satya nadella](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satya-nadella.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [molly wood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/molly-wood.md), [gender pay gap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-pay-gap.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Naomi Klein and the Lack of Feminist Outrage Against the NFL (31:01–35:08)

Adam Curry questions why feminist activists and media figures like Naomi Klein are not more vocal against the National Football League following the Ray Rice domestic violence incident. He argues that NGOs and media outlets selectively choose which outrages to promote based on political agendas. The hosts reference the Edelman Trust Barometer, noting that NGOs are often the most trusted but least scrutinized organizations.

Keywords: [naomi klein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/naomi-klein.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), [ray rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-rice.md), [domestic violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-violence.md), edelman trust barometer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Milton Friedman on the Economic Impact of Equal Pay Laws (35:10–44:45)

The hosts play archival clips of economist Milton Friedman discussing why "equal pay for equal work" laws can inadvertently harm women and minorities. Friedman argues that if an employer is sexist, the ability to work for a lower wage is a competitive tool for the discriminated group to impose a cost on the employer's prejudice. He suggests that mandated equality removes the financial penalty for discrimination, potentially leading to segregated workforces.

Keywords: [milton friedman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milton-friedman.md), equal pay act, lilly ledbetter act, [economics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economics.md), [apartheid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apartheid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Swiss Basic Income Initiative and Guaranteed Minimum Income (44:46–48:17)

A news clip details a Swiss proposal to provide a basic income of 2,000 euros per month to every citizen. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the concept of a guaranteed minimum income, noting that both Milton Friedman and Charles Murray have proposed similar systems to replace traditional welfare. They debate whether such a system would lead to waste or provide a necessary safety net in an increasingly automated economy.

Keywords: [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md), [basic income](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/basic-income.md), [milton friedman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milton-friedman.md), charles murray, negative income tax

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/8.md)

### 9. AAUW and the Independent Women's Forum Debate the Wage Gap (48:17–58:01)

The hosts play a debate between Erin Prangley of the AAUW and Sabrina Schaefer of the Independent Women's Forum regarding the Paycheck Fairness Act. Schaefer argues that when controlling for college majors and time spent in the workforce, the wage gap nearly disappears, leaving only a 5-7% unexplained difference. Curry asserts that the 77-cent statistic is a political tool used by the Democratic Party to manipulate female voters.

Keywords: aauw, independent women's forum, erin prangley, sabrina schaefer, paycheck fairness act

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/9.md)

### 10. AAUW Financial Analysis and Inefficient Fundraising Practices (58:02–1:03:00)

Adam Curry examines the IRS Form 990 for the American Association of University Women (AAUW), revealing nearly $120 million in net assets. He points out inefficient fundraising efforts where the organization spent more on telemarketing consultants than they raised in gross receipts. Curry also notes the irony of the AAUW investing millions in the Lighthouse Diversified Fund, founded by Ayn Rand admirer Monroe Trout Jr.

Keywords: aauw, [form 990](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/form-990.md), lighthouse diversified fund, monroe trout jr, [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Republican Naivety and the Ray Rice Video Fallout (1:03:01–1:08:06)

The hosts discuss the perceived inability of the Republican Party to counter Democratic cultural messaging. Curry revisits the Ray Rice video, expressing shock that the brutal footage did not spark a larger, sustained movement against the NFL's tax-exempt status. He concludes that women are being "duped" into supporting specific legislative solutions that may not actually benefit them.

Keywords: [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [ray rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-rice.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), [sarah silverman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-silverman.md), political manipulation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Panama Sailing Trip and Indigenous Islands (1:08:06–1:10:38)

Adam Curry describes an upcoming trip to Panama with his wife Mickey and producer Mark Workman. They plan to travel by sailboat to visit indigenous islands that are inaccessible by the Pan-American Highway. Dvorak expresses humorous concern about the logistics of the trip and the group dynamic on the boat.

Keywords: [panama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panama.md), [sailing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sailing.md), [mark workman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-workman.md), [mickey curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-curry.md), [indigenous people](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indigenous-people.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Executive Producer Donations and the Viscountess of Tokyo (1:10:39–1:18:16)

The hosts acknowledge major donations from Mark Workman, David Foley, and the Viscountess of Tokyo, Dame Astrid. Workman is granted the title of Baronet of Galt's Gulch, while David Foley is recognized as a Grand Duke. Dame Astrid's note about the "sawing" sound clip in the show leads to a humorous discussion about the show's recurring audio memes.

Keywords: [mark workman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-workman.md), [david foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-foley.md), [dame astrid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dame-astrid.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Knighting Ceremony and Value for Value Model (1:18:17–1:24:44)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conduct a knighting ceremony for several high-value donors, including Sir Thomas Nussbaum, who becomes the Baron of Hampton Roads. They discuss the "Value for Value" funding model, thanking listeners for their financial support which allows the show to remain independent of traditional advertising.

Keywords: stephen agarhuti, [thomas nussbaum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-nussbaum.md), [norman mcdonough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norman-mcdonough.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Ebola Outbreak Distribution and the Ivory Coast Border (1:24:46–1:29:05)

Adam Curry questions the validity of Ebola outbreak maps provided by the CDC, noting that the virus appears to stop abruptly at the border of the Ivory Coast. He points out that the Ivory Coast has resumed flights to affected neighboring countries despite the supposed danger. The hosts express skepticism about the narrative of the virus "creeping" across borders.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [ivory coast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivory-coast.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [sierra leone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sierra-leone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/15.md)

### 16. World Health Organization and the Bluetooth Handshake (1:29:06–1:32:58)

The hosts play a clip of Dr. Eileen Marty from the World Health Organization discussing the "Bluetooth handshake"—a non-contact fist bump used in Africa to prevent the spread of disease. Marty explains that touching forearms or elbows is a safer alternative to traditional handshakes. Curry and Dvorak mock the idea of the "Bluetooth" greeting becoming a trend in the United States.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), eileen marty, bluetooth handshake, [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Ebola Origins and the Bushmeat Narrative (1:32:58–1:37:13)

The discussion turns to the origins of the Ebola outbreak in Guinea, with the hosts questioning the official explanation involving "bushmeat" and bats. They suggest the narrative is being used to distract from other potential sources. Curry also mentions reports from France 24 that Russia has developed three Ebola vaccines ready for deployment.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), bushmeat, [bats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bats.md), [guinea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guinea.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/17.md)

### 18. State Department Briefing on Ebola Travel Policies (1:37:14–1:40:54)

A reporter at a State Department briefing questions Jen Psaki about the lack of quarantine for travelers arriving from Ebola-stricken countries. The reporter highlights the case of Thomas Eric Duncan, who entered the U.S. while asymptomatic. Psaki defends the policy, citing CDC Director Thomas Frieden's stance that isolating these countries would hinder the international response.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), thomas frieden

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Amazon Hazmat Suits and the USAID Grand Challenge (1:40:55–1:46:49)

Adam Curry looks up hazmat suits on Amazon, finding DuPont Tyvek coveralls for $19.99. He discusses the USAID "Grand Challenge for Development," which offers a $1 million prize for designing better personal protective equipment (PPE) for healthcare workers. The hosts question why the government of Sweden is partnering with the U.S. on this specific initiative.

Keywords: [hazmat suits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hazmat-suits.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [dupont](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dupont.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/19.md)

### 20. ISIS Border Threats and Saudi Arms Sales (1:46:50–1:52:24)

The hosts discuss reports from Judicial Watch claiming that four ISIS terrorists were arrested near the Texas-Mexico border. They also analyze recent U.S. arms sales to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates totaling nearly $3 billion. Curry suggests the focus on the "Khorasan Group" is a rebranding effort to justify continued military intervention in Syria.

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [judicial watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judicial-watch.md), [arms sales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-sales.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [khorasan group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/khorasan-group.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Kurdish Unrest in Kobani and the Gulen Connection (1:52:25–1:56:29)

Adam Curry examines the conflict in Kobani and the resulting Kurdish anger toward the Turkish government. He notes a connection between Fethullah Gulen and Kurdish interests, suggesting the unrest is being used to draw Turkey into a larger NATO-led conflict. The hosts argue that the strategic importance of Kobani is being exaggerated by mainstream media.

Keywords: [kobani](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kobani.md), [kurds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurds.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [fethullah gulen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fethullah-gulen.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Citizenfour Documentary and the Branding of Edward Snowden (1:56:30–2:06:38)

The hosts critique the Edward Snowden documentary Citizenfour, directed by Laura Poitras and executive produced by Steven Soderbergh. Curry highlights the involvement of Participant Media and Jeff Skoll, an eBay billionaire and associate of Pierre Omidyar. They argue that "Brand Snowden" has become a curated PR campaign, noting Snowden's appearances at tech conferences via Google Hangouts.

Keywords: [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), citizenfour, [laura poitras](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-poitras.md), jeff skoll, steven soderbergh, [pierre omidyar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-omidyar.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/22.md)

### 23. John Kerry on Climate Change and the Cost of Being Wrong (2:06:39–2:12:06)

Secretary of State John Kerry is featured in a clip arguing that even if climate change science is wrong, the transition to clean energy will still create jobs and improve health. He warns that if "climate deniers" are wrong, the result will be a global catastrophe. The hosts mock Kerry's rhetoric, with Dvorak questioning the lack of visible sea-level rise in California.

Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [carbon dioxide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-dioxide.md), [stagflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stagflation.md), [environment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Donor Acknowledgments and Job Karma Requests (2:12:09–2:23:16)

The hosts read a long list of donations and "job karma" requests from listeners. They discuss the case of Chris Perry, a systems administrator who was terminated from his job and requested support. Dvorak makes a joke about being more concerned with Fukushima radiation than Ebola.

Keywords: samuel butterick, elizabeth visser, rick olson, chris perry, [fukushima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fukushima.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Black Knighting of Sir HMFIC (2:23:17–2:26:45)

In a rare "Black Knighting" ceremony, the hosts induct Sir HMFIC (Head Mofo In Charge) into the No Agenda Round Table. The title is granted after a delay in his initial recognition. The ceremony includes a humorous list of requested amenities for the new knight, such as "whiskey and wet wipes."

Keywords: [black knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-knight.md), hmfic, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Tesla Executive Interview and Scottish Poll Tax Retribution (2:26:46–2:30:18)

The hosts play a clip of Tesla VP Jerome Guillen and then pivot to a report on the aftermath of the Scottish independence referendum. They discuss reports that Westminster is pursuing £450 million in unpaid poll taxes from the Margaret Thatcher era as retribution against Scottish voters who supported independence.

Keywords: [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), jerome guillen, [scotland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scotland.md), poll tax, [margaret thatcher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/margaret-thatcher.md), [westminster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/westminster.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Catalan Independence Referendum and FC Barcelona (2:30:18–2:33:00)

The hosts discuss the upcoming Catalan independence referendum in Spain, noting that the soccer team FC Barcelona has publicly supported the movement. They compare the situation to the annexation of Crimea and joke about Vladimir Putin potentially taking an interest in the Balearic Islands like Ibiza.

Keywords: [catalonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catalonia.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), fc barcelona, [ibiza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ibiza.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [independence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Net Neutrality and the Fight for the Future Campaign (2:33:01–2:39:06)

Adam Curry critiques the "Fight for the Future" (FFTF) organization and its campaign against the Comcast-Time Warner Cable merger. He argues that net neutrality regulations will actually lead to increased censorship of "unlawful content," including hate speech and peer-to-peer traffic. Curry warns that the FFTF is "duping" the public into supporting government regulation of the internet.

Keywords: [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), fight for the future, tiffany cheng, [time warner cable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-warner-cable.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/28.md)

### 29. President Obama on Net Neutrality and Clogged Pipes (2:39:07–2:50:08)

The hosts play a clip of President Obama discussing his commitment to net neutrality, where he uses the metaphor of "clogging up the pipes." Curry and Dvorak mock the President's technical understanding, comparing his rhetoric to Ted Stevens' "series of tubes." They argue that packet prioritization is necessary for the internet to function and that the FCC is seeking to regulate digital content like traditional broadcasting.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [tom wheeler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-wheeler.md), packet prioritization

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Haiti Prime Minister Laurent Lamothe and the Clinton Connection (2:50:10–2:56:21)

Adam Curry discusses the political situation in Haiti, focusing on Prime Minister Laurent Lamothe and his ties to Bill Clinton. Lamothe, a former telecom executive, co-chaired an advisory committee with Clinton following the 2010 earthquake. Curry highlights Lamothe's relationship with supermodel Petra Nemcova and critiques the "Happy Hearts Fund" for its proximity to the Clinton Foundation.

Keywords: laurent lamothe, [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), petra nemcova, [sean penn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-penn.md), [port-au-prince](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-au-prince.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/30.md)

### 31. John Kerry and Laurent Lamothe on Haitian Elections (2:56:22–3:04:33)

The hosts play a long clip of Secretary of State John Kerry welcoming Prime Minister Laurent Lamothe to Washington. Kerry praises the Haitian government's progress while Lamothe claims that 98% of the displaced population has been relocated. Curry disputes these figures, arguing that hundreds of thousands of Haitians remain in tents while the government focuses on building luxury hotels.

Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), laurent lamothe, [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [elections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elections.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md), [port-au-prince](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-au-prince.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Petra Nemcova and the Exploitation of Haiti (3:04:35–3:10:26)

John C. Dvorak suggests that supermodel Petra Nemcova's extensive travels and language skills are characteristic of an intelligence operative. Adam Curry disagrees, viewing her as a privileged figure within elite circles. They conclude that the Haitian people are being "steamrolled" by globalist interests and the Clinton Foundation's financial mismanagement.

Keywords: petra nemcova, [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md), [supermodels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supermodels.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Legal Personhood for Chimpanzees and Fox News Debate (3:10:27–3:13:08)

The hosts play a clip from Fox News debating whether chimpanzees should be granted legal personhood and the right of habeas corpus. Dvorak dismisses the story as "monkey business," arguing that animals are legally considered property or "chattel." They mock the attempt to extend human legal protections to non-human species.

Keywords: [chimpanzees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chimpanzees.md), legal personhood, [habeas corpus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/habeas-corpus.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [animal rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/33.md)

### 34. US-UK Bank Failure Simulation and Show Sign-off (3:13:08–3:16:40)

Adam Curry reports on an upcoming joint "war room" simulation between U.S. and UK financial regulators, including Janet Yellen and Jack Lew, to test the response to a large bank failure. The hosts express concern that such drills often precede real-world crises or "cyber attacks." The episode concludes with a final sign-off and a reminder of the show's "Powered by Science" slogan.

Keywords: [jack lew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-lew.md), [janet yellen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-yellen.md), [bank of england](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-england.md), [cyber attack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-attack.md), [simulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/simulation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/660-clog-the-pipes/chapter/34.md)

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