# After Spin Class > The White House rebrands the war in Iraq as a digital-age crusade while Silicon Valley transforms the smartphone into a tool for spiritual and psychological enslavement. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 652 - **Published:** 2014-09-14 - **Length:** 2h 55m - **Topics:** ISIL branding, HVE terminology, Digital idolatry, Scottish referendum, Saudi 9/11 ties, [Planned obsolescence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/planned-obsolescence.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class ## About this episode The Obama administration is pivoting its military strategy toward a "degrade and destroy" mission against ISIL, a move Secretary of State John Kerry claims will involve a broad international coalition. This shift coincides with a linguistic transition from ISIS to ISIL in White House briefings, a change former Press Secretary Jay Carney and current spokesperson Josh Earnest have struggled to articulate without appearing scripted. The strategy relies heavily on U.S. Code Title 10 funding to arm Syrian rebels, bypassing traditional congressional war declarations while defense contractors like Raytheon prepare for a long-term regional stimulus. Domestic security narratives are simultaneously tightening as the National Counterterrorism Center introduces the "HVE" or Homegrown Violent Extremist label to describe threats like the Boston Marathon bombers. In the media sphere, Dan Rather has resurfaced to warn of a "social media war" driven by visceral propaganda, even as technical inconsistencies in the David Haines beheading video suggest post-production audio sweetening. These events are unfolding alongside a renewed mainstream interest in the 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 inquiry, which reportedly implicate Saudi Arabian officials in funding the hijackers. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the spiritual vacuum of the smartphone era, comparing Apple product launches to mega-church services where the iPhone serves as a modern rosary bead. The duo performs a de-douching ceremony for a listener in Kaiserslautern and awards extra thick layers of karma to Miguel Espinal for distributing the show via flash drives in New York City. Between critiques of Michelle Obama’s upcoming magazine features and the decline of face-to-face conversation, the hosts maintain that the theater of the mind remains the only antidote to the digital zombie apocalypse. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/transcript.md. ### 1. Global Cooling and Unseasonable Weather in Austin (0:00–3:14) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the unusually cool September weather in Austin, Texas, noting temperatures in the 60s compared to the previous year's heat. They joke about global cooling being caused by measles, referencing an old show clip. Curry recounts a social gathering where he annoyed attendees by pointing out the cold weather as evidence for his global cooling theories. Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [global cooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-cooling.md), [weather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/1.md) ### 2. North Korea Detentions and Matthew Miller Asylum Case (3:17–6:36) A discussion of American citizens detained in North Korea focuses on the case of Matthew Miller, who reportedly tore up his visa to seek asylum and write a book about the regime's injustices. The hosts analyze the motivations of missionaries and travelers who enter the country despite the risks of being labeled as spies. Dvorak expresses a long-standing interest in visiting North Korea, potentially as part of a diplomatic entourage. Keywords: [north korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-korea.md), [matthew miller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matthew-miller.md), [asylum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asylum.md), [missionaries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missionaries.md), [pyongyang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pyongyang.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Presidential Priorities and Scholastic.com Role Definitions (6:37–10:53) The hosts critique President Barack Obama's shifting rhetoric regarding his "top priority," comparing his statements on national security to previous claims about the middle class and economic growth. They reference a Scholastic.com educational guide to explain the roles of the President, including Chief of State and Commander in Chief. The summary highlights the simplified way these roles are taught to children, such as greeting astronauts or deciding on wartime bombings. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [commander in chief](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commander-in-chief.md), [scholastic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scholastic.md), [middle class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-class.md), [executive power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-power.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Andy Tobin Republican Congressional Campaign and Arizona Flooding (10:54–12:23) Andy Tobin, Speaker of the Arizona House and Republican candidate for Congress, delivers a speech following a presidential address. Tobin addresses recent fatal flooding in Arizona before pivoting to a critique of federal government overreach and regulation. The hosts mock the audio quality and the generic nature of his political messaging. Keywords: andy tobain, [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [republican party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-party.md), [flooding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flooding.md), federal regulation [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Jay Carney and the ISIS vs ISIL Terminology (12:24–16:33) Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is analyzed during his debut as a CNN commentator, specifically his use of the word "proposed" or "prosed" when discussing the threat of ISIS. The hosts debate whether Carney had a "scrambled brain" moment or was revealing a scripted narrative. The discussion transitions into the broader linguistic shift from ISIS to ISIL within the Obama administration. Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [terminology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terminology.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Josh Earnest and White House Press Briefing Style (16:33–19:08) White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest is criticized for his performance during briefings, with the hosts comparing his flat jokes and demeanor to characters in the television show "Veep." Earnest's explanation of "destroying ISIL" and the threat of foreign fighters is dismissed as repetitive rhetoric. The hosts argue that the administration is attempting to stabilize the region without committing traditional combat troops. Keywords: [josh earnest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/josh-earnest.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [press secretary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-secretary.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Title 10 Funding and Syrian Rebel Training (19:09–22:46) Senator Harry Reid and Representative Buck McKeon advocate for increased military spending and the authority to train and equip Syrian rebels. The discussion highlights the use of U.S. Code Title 10 for funding, which allows for general fund appropriation including undisclosed amounts for the CIA. The hosts express skepticism toward the bipartisan support for arming groups formerly classified as terrorists. Keywords: [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md), [title 10](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/title-10.md), syrian rebels, buck mckeon, [military spending](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-spending.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Iraq War History and the Branding of ISIL (22:47–26:06) A montage of four U.S. presidents announcing military actions in Iraq over a 28-year span illustrates the repetitive nature of American foreign policy. The hosts discuss the decentralized structure of ISIL, comparing it to the "Anonymous" collective, and note that the black flag used by the group is a generic Islamic symbol. They argue the conflict serves as a stimulus for defense contractors like Raytheon rather than a strategic necessity. Keywords: [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [george h.w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-h-w-bush.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [raytheon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raytheon.md), [black flag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-flag.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Matt Lee and Marie Harf State Department Sparring (26:08–29:59) Associated Press reporter Matt Lee and State Department spokesperson Marie Harf engage in a heated exchange regarding the "coalition of the willing" against ISIS. Lee questions the specific contributions of allies like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Germany, while Harf defends the "deliberate and prudent" process of building international support. The hosts characterize their professional relationship as a comedic "odd couple" dynamic. Keywords: [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [marie harf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marie-harf.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [coalition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coalition.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/9.md) ### 10. James Foley's Mother and Government Ransom Threats (30:00–34:22) The mother of slain journalist James Foley claims U.S. government officials threatened her with prosecution if she raised ransom money for her son's release. Secretary of State John Kerry denies knowledge of such threats, while the hosts suggest the situation indicates a botched "scenario" or intelligence operation. Comparisons are made to the treatment of Sean Smith's mother following the Benghazi attack. Keywords: [james foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-foley.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [ransom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ransom.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Degrade and Destroy Strategy Against Global Terror (34:23–36:40) Secretary of State John Kerry meets with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi to expand the coalition against ISIS into a broader fight against global terrorism. The hosts analyze the administration's specific use of the word "degrade" instead of "war," arguing it is a legal maneuver to avoid seeking formal Congressional approval for military action. Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [egypt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/egypt.md), al-sisi, [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [counter-terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counter-terrorism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Homegrown Violent Extremists and HVE Terminology (36:41–41:01) The National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) introduces the acronym "HVE" for "Homegrown Violent Extremists" during Congressional testimony. Officials warn that these individuals represent the most immediate threat to the U.S. homeland, citing the Boston Marathon bombing as a primary example. The hosts trace the legal origins of the term to Attorney General Eric Holder and the FBI. Keywords: [hve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hve.md), homegrown violent extremists, [nctc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nctc.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/12.md) ### 13. David Haines Beheading Video and Audio Sweetening (41:02–44:25) The hosts analyze the beheading video of British aid worker David Haines, noting technical inconsistencies such as the use of a lavalier microphone and "sweetened" sound effects. They question the authenticity of the footage, suggesting the audio of the knife was added in post-production. The role of the SITE Intelligence Group in discovering and distributing these videos is also scrutinized. Keywords: david haines, [site intelligence group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/site-intelligence-group.md), jihad john, [video production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-production.md), [foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foley.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/13.md) ### 14. USAID and Intelligence Ties of Aid Workers (44:27–47:04) An investigation into the career of David Haines reveals his employment with various NGOs and aid agencies funded by USAID, the UN, and the Open Society Foundations. The hosts suggest that these organizations often serve as covers for intelligence operations. They highlight Haines' work in war-torn regions like Libya and Syria as part of a broader pattern of state-sponsored activity. Keywords: [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), david haines, acted, nonviolent peace force, [ngos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ngos.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Dan Rather on Social Media War and Propaganda (47:05–53:44) Former news anchor Dan Rather appears on CNN to discuss ISIS as the first "social media war," comparing their propaganda techniques to those of the 1930s. Rather expresses ambivalence about the authenticity of the beheading videos and warns that "emotional knowledge" from graphic images is driving irrational foreign policy. The hosts praise Rather for subtly questioning the official narrative while criticizing his "Hitler card" comparison. Keywords: [dan rather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-rather.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [hitler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hitler.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Psychological Operations and Social Media Literacy (53:45–56:51) The hosts argue that the current media landscape represents the largest psychological operation in history, potentially facilitated by tech experts previously associated with Hillary Clinton. They discuss the need for "social media literacy" to counter visceral images that overwhelm rational analysis. National Security Advisor Susan Rice's pronunciation of "ISIL" is also mocked. Keywords: [psychological operations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychological-operations.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [susan rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-rice.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Dan Rather's CBS Exit and the Killian Documents (56:52–1:00:33) The hosts recount the 2004 scandal involving Dan Rather and forged documents regarding George W. Bush's National Guard service. They explain how the "superscript TH" typography in the memos proved they were created in Microsoft Word rather than a 1970s typewriter. This event led to Rather's departure from CBS and his subsequent move to HDNet. Keywords: [dan rather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-rather.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), killian documents, [typography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/typography.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Controlled Narratives and ISIS Branding (1:00:35–1:03:48) The hosts discuss the "slow-moving freight train" of ISIS news, suggesting it is a controlled experiment to justify long-term military spending. They analyze the group's branding, including the generic black flag and the sequence of "convert or die" narratives. The upcoming threat to British hostage Alan Henning is mentioned as the next stage in the media cycle. Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [branding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/branding.md), [beheadings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beheadings.md), alan henning, [psychological warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychological-warfare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Visa Waiver Program and USAID Economic Hitmen (1:03:49–1:06:30) Representatives Gabbard and Collins propose suspending the Visa Waiver Program (ESTA) due to security concerns, which the hosts argue would damage the economy. The discussion touches on the "Economic Hitman" theory regarding USAID workers and the high-security environment of U.S. embassies in Europe, where visitors are prohibited from carrying electronics. Keywords: [visa waiver program](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/visa-waiver-program.md), [esta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esta.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [john perkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-perkins.md), embassy security [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Localized Jihadist Narratives and Public Relations (1:06:31–1:11:22) The hosts examine how European media outlets, such as The Telegraph in the Netherlands, localize the ISIS threat by reporting on "hometown" jihadists in high-level positions. Dvorak compares this to an old public relations tactic used at Carlsbad Caverns to get local newspaper coverage. They suggest these stories serve as a "honeypot" to keep the public occupied before elections. Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [jihadists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jihadists.md), [public relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-relations.md), carlsbad caverns, [honeypot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honeypot.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Executive Producer Credits and New York Karma (1:11:23–1:17:25) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak thank their executive producers, starting with Sir Mark Wilson of Glasgow, who comments on the Scottish independence referendum. A donor from New York City, Miguel Espinal, requests karma and describes his efforts to spread the show via flash drives at train stations. The hosts provide "extra thick layers of karma" to listeners supporting the program. Keywords: [mark wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-wilson.md), [glasgow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glasgow.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), flash drives [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Sequential Donations and Email Debate Policy (1:17:27–1:22:20) The hosts acknowledge sequential donations and a journalism professor who uses show clips in class. Adam Curry issues a stern reminder to listeners to stop trying to debate him via email or sending unsolicited links without explanation. He specifically mentions a persistent listener from Holland arguing about a news story involving a nine-year-old with an Uzi. Keywords: sequential donations, [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), email policy, uzi, [bingo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bingo.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Birthday Donations and De-douching Ceremonies (1:22:21–1:24:43) A listener from Kaiserslautern, Germany, donates for her husband Steven's 31st birthday to pull him out of "boner status." The hosts perform a "de-douching" ceremony for the couple and their friend Donovan. The segment includes a "Boom Shakalaka" remix and a discussion of using VA slave funds for donations. Keywords: [kaiserslautern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiserslautern.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/23.md) ### 24. School ID Visa Cards and Cyber Industry Definitions (1:24:43–1:28:53) A donor from Scottsdale, Arizona, asks for luck in finishing school and getting married. The hosts discuss a trend where schools issue student IDs that double as Visa debit cards for financial aid and transactions. A "signal soldier" donor provides a definition of "cyber" in his industry as "proactive analysis" and requests a Reverend Al Sharpton montage. Keywords: [scottsdale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scottsdale.md), [visa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/visa.md), school id, cyber, [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Solar Flares and Facebook Dependency (1:28:55–1:34:14) The hosts discuss an X1.6 class solar flare and the potential for an EMP to disrupt the power grid. They mock a news report that focuses almost exclusively on the "tragedy" of Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram being offline for a few hours. The segment highlights the public's extreme dependency on social media for daily occupation. Keywords: [solar flare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solar-flare.md), [emp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emp.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [power grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/power-grid.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Technology Enslavement and the Empty Hole (1:34:15–1:37:41) John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry explore "Technology Enslavement Disorder" and the loss of the ability to be alone with one's thoughts. They reference a Louis C.K. bit about using phones to fill an "empty hole" in the pit of the stomach that was historically filled by religion. Steve Jobs is noted for being a "low-tech parent" who restricted his own children's use of iPads. Keywords: [louis ck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louis-ck.md), [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology.md), boredom, [religion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religion.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Apple Product Launches as Mega-Church Services (1:37:42–1:43:40) Dvorak presents a theory that Apple product rollouts are structured exactly like mega-church services, featuring "vestments" (black shirts), "visiting preachers" (product managers), and musical guests like U2. He argues that the Apple logo has become a religious icon and that the devices serve as modern-day rosary beads. The hosts discuss how this "new religion" taps into the seven deadly sins, particularly pride and envy. Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), mega-church, idolatry [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Digital Idolatry and the Seven Deadly Sins (1:43:41–1:47:58) The discussion continues on the spiritual implications of smartphone addiction, framing it as a violation of the first commandment through digital idolatry. The hosts map the seven deadly sins to modern tech behaviors, such as wrath to cyberbullying and pride to selfies. They suggest that this behavior is an unhealthy substitute for genuine meditation or religious practice. Keywords: idolatry, seven deadly sins, [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [smartphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphones.md), [cyberbullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyberbullying.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Social Etiquette and the Decline of Conversation (1:47:59–1:54:06) The hosts lament the decline of face-to-face conversation in restaurants, where families often sit in silence while staring at their phones. They note that the ability to instantly look up facts on Wikipedia has killed the art of friendly debate. The segment concludes that Silicon Valley executives are aware of the dopamine-driven nature of these devices and are "laughing and taking your money." Keywords: [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md), [restaurants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/restaurants.md), [wikipedia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikipedia.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [dopamine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dopamine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Selfie Culture and the Dopamine Loop (1:54:07–2:00:12) Adam Curry recounts a personal dispute over a selfie taken with his daughter that he did not want published, illustrating the "embedded sickness" of social media sharing. The hosts compare the dopamine hits from social media to a "lethal" combination of cocaine and smartphones. They jokingly suggest that smoking dope and listening to Bob Marley would be a healthier alternative to current tech habits. Keywords: [selfies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selfies.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [dopamine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dopamine.md), [bob marley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-marley.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/30.md) ### 31. NASA Moon Bombing and the Stuart Nozette Spy Case (2:00:13–2:04:23) The hosts revisit a story from 2009 involving NASA scientist Stuart Nozette, who was arrested for attempting to sell secrets to an FBI agent posing as a Mossad operative. They link Nozette to the L-Cross project, which they claim was intended to bomb a moon base rather than search for water. The segment includes a critique of a photo showing Nozette at the Pentagon. Keywords: stuart nozette, [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [moon bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-bombing.md), [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Scottish Independence Referendum and North Sea Oil (2:04:24–2:08:37) A report on the upcoming Scottish independence referendum highlights the "Yes" campaign's efforts to bypass mainstream media through local community organizing. The hosts discuss the economic stakes, particularly the control of North Sea oil reserves, and compare Scotland's potential future to Norway's model. They predict that Westminster will not easily allow the Scots to leave with such valuable resources. Keywords: [scotland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scotland.md), [referendum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/referendum.md), [westminster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/westminster.md), [north sea oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-sea-oil.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/32.md) ### 33. The Lisbon Treaty and Potential Scottish Do-Overs (2:08:38–2:12:37) The hosts speculate that if Scotland votes for independence, the UK and EU might force a "do-over" vote, similar to what happened with Ireland and the Lisbon Treaty. They analyze the "shell game" of Scottish taxation and government spending, arguing that the current system is designed to keep the population dependent. The segment ends with a mention of Jean-Claude Juncker's plans for a Capital Markets Union. Keywords: [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), [scotland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scotland.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), shell game [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/33.md) ### 34. European Capital Markets Union and News Music Beds (2:12:38–2:15:57) Jean-Claude Juncker appoints a British commissioner to lead the creation of a Capital Markets Union, which the hosts see as a final step toward total EU political and financial integration. They also critique the increasing use of "hypnotic" background music beds in European news broadcasts, such as reports on Francois Hollande's visit to Baghdad. Keywords: [jean-claude juncker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jean-claude-juncker.md), [ecb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ecb.md), capital markets union, [baghdad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baghdad.md), [news production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/news-production.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/34.md) ### 35. The Missing 28 Pages and Saudi 9/11 Ties (2:15:58–2:20:51) Thirteen years after the 9/11 attacks, there is renewed mainstream interest in the 28 redacted pages of the joint congressional inquiry. The pages reportedly implicate Saudi Arabian officials in funding the hijackers. The hosts discuss President Obama's proclamation of "Patriot Day" and suggest the sudden focus on Saudi Arabia after a decade is a calculated "hit piece." 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Keywords: [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), out magazine, [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), [transgender](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transgender.md), [joan rivers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joan-rivers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/652-after-spin-class/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Levi's Stadium Promotion and the Popularity of Lanyards (2:31:28–2:35:41) An NBC Bay Area weather reporter is criticized for performing a blatant commercial for the San Francisco 49ers team store at the new Levi's Stadium. The reporter highlights "commemorative" items and reveals that lanyards are the store's most popular product. The hosts use this as an example of the total blurring of news and corporate promotion in mainstream media. 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