# Plague Grenade

> Silicon Valley branding shifts and military maneuvers in the Middle East collide as the hosts deconstruct the optics of modern statecraft and consumer technology.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 651
- **Published:** 2014-09-11
- **Length:** 3h 6m
- **Topics:** [Apple Watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-watch.md), [ISIL](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [MH17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [Net Neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [Global Entry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-entry.md), Militarized Police, [Ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade

## About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak dissect the strategic rebranding of the Apple Watch and the mass hysteria surrounding its launch. As Tim Cook and Phil Schiller move away from the legacy i-branding to secure trademark control, the media obsession with taptic feedback and tethered wearables reveals a growing societal tech-addiction. Curry recounts his recent travel through Schiphol and JFK, exposing the inconsistencies of Global Entry facial recognition and the hollow theater of airport security pat-downs.

President Obama’s primetime address on ISIL serves as a catalyst for a broader look at the military-industrial complex and the revolving door between the White House and CNN. While Jay Carney transitions from press secretary to network analyst, the administration faces scrutiny over the FTO Passport Revocation Act and the use of Toyota technicals by militants. The report on flight MH17 confirms high-velocity projectile damage, yet media outlets like De Telegraaf continue to push narratives ahead of forensic evidence. Meanwhile, the IRS admits to a flexible interpretation of the law regarding healthcare subsidies as local police departments across America stock up on thousands of military-grade bayonets.

In a moment of linguistic analysis, the hosts explore James Pennebaker’s research on function words and how the frequency of the word I reveals social status. The episode concludes with a skeptical look at the Ebola outbreak in Sierra Leone, questioning if the medical crisis serves as a humanitarian front for securing West African oil resources against Chinese competition. Sir Idiot of Atlas McDowell is knighted for his contributions to the Value for Value model.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/transcript.md.

### 1. ISIL Border Threats, Host Illness and Travel (0:00–1:36)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show discussing potential ISIL threats near the Texas border and Silicon Valley. Curry describes returning from a trip with a high fever and chills, suspecting he caught a virus during his flights. The hosts joke about garbage men being undercover ISIL agents.

Keywords: [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [illness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illness.md), travel bug

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Airline Loyalty Programs, KLM Downgrades and Cuban Cigars (1:36–3:54)

Curry recounts his experience with KLM's loyalty program, noting he has been downgraded from gold to a lower tier he jokingly calls the "aluminum" level. He describes the difficulty of maintaining status and the high cost of extra luggage. Additionally, he mentions successfully bringing a box of Cohiba cigars from Cuba through customs.

Keywords: [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), airline status, [first class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-class.md), silver status, cohiba, [cuban cigars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cuban-cigars.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Schiphol Airport Security, Opt-Out Procedures and Security Theater (3:54–6:33)

Curry details his experience navigating security at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, where he requested a manual opt-out from the body scanners. He describes a brief confrontation with a security officer before being allowed to bypass the magnetometer entirely for a pat-down. The hosts criticize the "security theater" of airport protocols, noting that his bag full of electronics was barely scrutinized.

Keywords: [schiphol airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol-airport.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), [magnetometer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magnetometer.md), [opt-out](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opt-out.md), [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Global Entry Experience, Facial Recognition and JFK Customs (6:34–11:07)

Curry describes the efficiency of the Global Entry system at JFK Airport, highlighting the use of kiosks and biometric data. He notes that the facial recognition camera only captured his chin, yet he was still approved and allowed to bypass the standard customs lines. The hosts express skepticism about the actual security effectiveness of the database checks performed at these kiosks.

Keywords: [global entry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-entry.md), [jfk airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-airport.md), [customs and border protection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customs-and-border-protection.md), [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), [fingerprints](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fingerprints.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/4.md)

### 5. TSA PreCheck Inconsistencies, Database Disconnection and Panama Plans (11:08–13:50)

The discussion shifts to the lack of coordination between airline boarding passes and TSA PreCheck status for international transfers. Curry mentions that his partner, Micky, was approved for Global Entry despite having a "flag" on her record, suggesting the databases are not properly linked. They also briefly discuss a future trip to Panama to visit indigenous tribes.

Keywords: [tsa precheck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa-precheck.md), [global entry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-entry.md), [panama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panama.md), indigenous tribes, [database](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/database.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Apple Keynote Branding, Rebranding to Apple Watch (13:53–16:19)

Dvorak references his recent PC Magazine column regarding the Apple keynote event. The hosts discuss Apple's strategic shift away from the "i" branding (e.g., iPhone, iPad) toward using the Apple logo and name directly, as seen with the Apple Watch. They argue this move helps protect the brand from trademark squatters.

Keywords: [apple watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-watch.md), [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [rebranding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rebranding.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md), [trademark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trademark.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Apple Presentation Critique, Tim Cook and Fashion Choices (16:19–18:54)

The hosts critique the performances of Apple executives during the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch launch. They describe Tim Cook's stage presence as improved but mock Phil Schiller for being boring and Eddie Cue for his "wrinkled pink shirt." They argue that Silicon Valley executives need professional stylists for major public events.

Keywords: [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), phil schiller, [eddie cue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eddie-cue.md), [apple pay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-pay.md), silicon valley fashion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Media Obsession, Apple Watch Requirements and Wearables (18:55–21:13)

A Fox News clip featuring Kimberly Guilfoyle highlights the mainstream media's obsession with Apple products. The hosts criticize the requirement that the Apple Watch must be paired with an iPhone 6 to function. They compare this to the failed Blackberry PlayBook, which similarly required a tethered phone.

Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [apple watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-watch.md), [iphone 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-6.md), [wearables](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wearables.md), [blackberry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackberry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Smartphone Addiction, Gender Observations and Social Sickness (21:13–25:36)

Curry observes travelers at the airport, noting a specific pattern of smartphone use among women involving constant Facebook scrolling and zooming in on photos. He characterizes this behavior as a "sickness" or "illness" of the modern era. The hosts predict that future wearables will eventually monitor blood alcohol levels and prevent users from starting their cars.

Keywords: [smartphone addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphone-addiction.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), blood alcohol level

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Kimberly Guilfoyle Critique, Defining the Tech Illness (25:37–27:46)

The hosts revisit the Fox News clip to mock Kimberly Guilfoyle's enthusiastic reaction to "taptic feedback" on the Apple Watch. They resolve to coin a specific medical term for the mass hysteria and addiction surrounding new consumer technology releases.

Keywords: [kimberly guilfoyle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kimberly-guilfoyle.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), taptic feedback, tech addiction

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Apple Streaming Failures, Safari Exclusivity (27:46–29:20)

Dvorak points out that Apple's keynote stream was restricted to Safari users on Mac or iOS, excluding Windows users. Curry reflects on how peaceful his travel was without access to the tech news cycle, reinforcing his view that social media and smartphone use have become a Pavlovian "horror."

Keywords: apple stream, [safari](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safari.md), [windows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows.md), [tech news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-news.md), pavlovian response

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Airline Overbooking, Delta Economy Comfort Upgrades (29:21–31:28)

Curry shares an anecdote about a Delta flight where the booking system showed the plane was full, yet many "Economy Comfort" seats remained empty. He describes a confusing interaction with flight attendants who offered him an upgrade but lacked the administrative tools to actually charge him for it.

Keywords: [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [economy comfort](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy-comfort.md), flight upgrades, airline bureaucracy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Internet Slowdown Day, Net Neutrality Activism (31:29–34:33)

The hosts discuss "Internet Slowdown Day," a protest organized by groups like Fight for the Future and the EFF to support net neutrality. Curry reads an email from activists urging users to contact Congress. He expresses skepticism about the funding and true motives behind these organizations.

Keywords: [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), internet slowdown, fight for the future, [eff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eff.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Common Carrier Regulation, Comcast and FCC Influence (34:34–36:29)

The discussion focuses on the push to classify the internet as a common carrier under Title II. The hosts argue that this move actually benefits large incumbents like Comcast and Time Warner by creating a regulated utility environment that stifles smaller competitors and municipal broadband projects.

Keywords: [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [time warner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-warner.md), [common carrier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/common-carrier.md), [section 706](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-706.md), utility

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Unlawful vs Illegal Content, Internet Censorship Risks (36:30–40:33)

Curry highlights a specific phrase in proposed net neutrality rules: the prohibition of blocking "lawful" content. Using Black's Law Dictionary, he distinguishes between "illegal" (forbidden by law) and "unlawful" (not authorized by law). He warns that this terminology could allow the government to regulate "hate speech" or "bullying" as "unlawful" traffic.

Keywords: [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), unlawful content, [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), black's law dictionary, [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Mass Hysteria, Global Warming and DNA Conditioning (40:34–42:04)

The hosts compare the current tech obsession to other historical instances of mass hysteria, such as the 1970s "population explosion" fears and modern global warming debates. They suggest that human DNA and decades of social conditioning make the public susceptible to lockstep acceptance of certain narratives.

Keywords: [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [population control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-control.md), [mass hysteria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-hysteria.md), [conditioning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conditioning.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Democracy Now Coverage, Spinning Wheel of Death (42:04–44:48)

A clip from Democracy Now features activists discussing the "spinning wheel of death" icons used during the net neutrality protest. The hosts criticize the shift in messaging from "fast lanes" to "slowing down the internet," calling it a more effective but manipulative way to frame the debate for the public.

Keywords: [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), spinning wheel of death, [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Netflix Peering Agreements, Technical Misunderstandings (44:48–48:00)

The hosts clarify that the conflict between Netflix and Comcast is primarily about peering arrangements rather than "fast lanes." They challenge the EFF to provide a technical and legal explanation for how "unlawful network traffic" will be defined, suggesting that protocols like mesh networking or peer-to-peer could be targeted.

Keywords: [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [peering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peering.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [ipv6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipv6.md), [eff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eff.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Comcast-Time Warner Merger, Content Prioritization (48:01–50:45)

The discussion turns to the proposed Comcast-Time Warner merger and how net neutrality rules might facilitate it. They argue that Comcast prioritizes its own video-on-demand services over Netflix for competitive reasons, and that future regulation will lead to deep packet inspection and content filtering.

Keywords: [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [time warner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-warner.md), [merger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merger.md), video on demand, [deep packet inspection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-packet-inspection.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Podcast Licensing, Ham Radio Analogies and FCC Oversight (50:47–54:37)

Dvorak predicts that FCC oversight of the internet will eventually lead to licensing requirements for podcasters and bloggers, similar to broadcast television or ham radio. He notes that ham radio operators have restricted free speech and cannot use "lascivious" language, providing a potential model for future internet regulation.

Keywords: podcast licensing, [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Executive Producer Credits, Value for Value, David Foley (54:38–58:01)

Adam Curry thanks the "Value for Value" producers and discusses the show's artwork. He introduces Executive Producer David Foley, who donated $668.66. Foley receives a "hollow book" from a show sponsor as part of his producer package.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [david foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-foley.md), [hollow books](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollow-books.md), [Newcastle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newcastle.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Idiot of Atlas McDowell (58:02–1:01:05)

The hosts perform a knighting ceremony for "Sir Idiot of Atlas McDowell," who donated $432.10. The donor provides a humorous take on the term "ground truth" and requests a custom ringtone mix featuring show catchphrases like "Buy more kale" and "You will obey."

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), atlas mcdowell, [ground truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ground-truth.md), [ringtone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ringtone.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Scottish Referendum, Koch Brother Journalists and Global Donations (1:01:06–1:04:51)

The hosts read a donation note from a journalist in Scotland covering the independence referendum. They discuss the "Braveheart moment" for the Scots and compare it to failed referendums in Quebec. Other donations from Michigan, Florida, and Ontario are acknowledged, along with a mention of actress Tawny Kitaen.

Keywords: [scotland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scotland.md), [referendum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/referendum.md), [koch brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/koch-brothers.md), [quebec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quebec.md), [panama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panama.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Don Tommaso and Don Emilio de Toronto (1:05:02–1:06:37)

Adam Curry reads a letter from "Don Tommaso" in Toronto, who sent two donations. One donation is intended to start his son, "Don Emilio de Toronto," on the path to knighthood following an "ice bucket challenge fiasco."

Keywords: [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [ice bucket challenge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice-bucket-challenge.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/24.md)

### 25. MH17 Preliminary Report, Dutch Media Bias and Projectiles (1:06:37–1:09:33)

Curry discusses the release of the preliminary report on the downing of flight MH17. He criticizes the Dutch newspaper *De Telegraaf* for biased headlines blaming Russia before the report was public. The report concluded the plane was hit by high-velocity projectiles from the outside, consistent with a missile strike, but offered no definitive culprit.

Keywords: [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [telegraph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telegraph.md), surface-to-air missile, [flight data recorder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-data-recorder.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Public Apathy, Beheading Video Polls and Media Lies (1:09:33–1:12:22)

The hosts discuss a poll claiming 94% of Americans are "aware" of ISIS beheading videos. They argue that the media, specifically Erin Burnett on CNN, is misrepresenting this statistic to suggest that 94% of Americans have *seen* the videos, thereby manufacturing consent for military action.

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [beheading videos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beheading-videos.md), [erin burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-burnett.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Obama ISIS Speech, Echo Chambers and Forced Marriage (1:12:23–1:15:31)

Curry critiques President Obama's primetime speech on ISIS, noting the poor audio quality and "echo chamber" setting. He questions the inclusion of "forced marriage" in the list of ISIS atrocities, suggesting it might be a subtle dig at India. The hosts argue the presentation should have used modern multimedia tools like maps and touchscreens.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), forced marriage

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Twitter Trends, FDR Fireside Chats and Global Maps (1:15:33–1:18:56)

During Obama's speech, Curry notes that the top trending topics on Twitter were T-Mobile, Ray Rice, and the Apple Watch, with the speech failing to crack the top list. They contrast this with FDR's fireside chats in 1942, which prompted citizens to buy maps and globes to follow the war's progress.

Keywords: twitter trends, [ray rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-rice.md), [apple watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-watch.md), [fdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fdr.md), fireside chats

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Presidential Presentation Style, Ross Perot and Teleprompters (1:18:57–1:22:56)

The hosts discuss why modern presidents don't use visual aids like Ross Perot did in the 1990s. Curry theorizes that Obama is unable to read a teleprompter and interact with a map simultaneously. They also mock the president's physical mannerisms when disembarking Air Force One.

Keywords: [ross perot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ross-perot.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [valerie jarrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/valerie-jarrett.md), [powerpoint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/powerpoint.md), [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Intelligence Fusion Cells, Degrading ISIS and Air Power (1:23:01–1:25:50)

A clip from a Hoover Institution analyst discusses the lack of "fusion cells" and ground intelligence in the current fight against ISIS. The analyst argues that air power alone can only "degrade" the group and that defeating them would eventually require boots on the ground to ferret out insurgents.

Keywords: [hoover institution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoover-institution.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [air strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-strikes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/30.md)

### 31. FTO Passport Revocation Act, Ted Poe and Edward Snowden (1:25:50–1:30:19)

Texas Congressman Ted Poe introduced the "FTO Passport Revocation Act" to strip the passports of Americans fighting for ISIS. The hosts discuss the constitutionality of this move, noting that the Yale Law Journal previously argued there is no current legal authority to revoke passports for such reasons, including in the case of Edward Snowden.

Keywords: [ted poe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-poe.md), [passport revocation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passport-revocation.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), yale law journal

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Jay Carney at CNN, Media Revolving Door (1:30:19–1:32:46)

The hosts express disgust at former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney being hired as a CNN analyst only months after leaving his government post. They characterize Carney as a "shill" for the Obama administration who continues to use the same talking points on air.

Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [white house press secretary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-press-secretary.md), [jeff zucker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-zucker.md), [shill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shill.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Carney vs McCain, Free Syrian Army Debate (1:32:46–1:35:09)

A clip shows a heated exchange between Jay Carney and Senator John McCain on CNN regarding the arming of the Free Syrian Army. McCain accuses the administration of ignoring military advice, while Carney uses the phrase "agree to disagree," which the hosts mock as a non-answer typical of a press secretary.

Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [free syrian army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-syrian-army.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Newt Gingrich Analysis, Donna Brazile and the "Obushma" Era (1:35:10–1:37:35)

Newt Gingrich observes that Obama's ISIS speech sounded like something George W. Bush would have delivered. The hosts play a clip of Donna Brazile appearing confused and "short-circuiting" while trying to defend the president's shift toward a more hawkish foreign policy.

Keywords: [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [donna brazile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donna-brazile.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/34.md)

### 35. ISIS vs ISIL Terminology, War Machine Bonanza and Advisors (1:37:36–1:40:36)

The hosts discuss the linguistic divide between "ISIS" (media) and "ISIL" (government/insiders). They argue the new conflict is a "bonanza" for the military-industrial complex, benefiting contractors like Academy (formerly Blackwater) and defense firms like Raytheon, while avoiding the political fallout of "combat troops" by using "advisors."

Keywords: [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [isil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isil.md), [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [academy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/academy.md), [contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contractors.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Media Irony, Chemical Weapon Memes and Fox News Polls (1:40:36–1:44:06)

CNN's Carol Costello notes the "irony" of an anti-war president entering a new conflict. Meanwhile, Fox News reports high public support for airstrikes in Syria. The hosts criticize the media for reintroducing the "debunked" meme that the Syrian regime used chemical weapons a year prior to justify current intervention.

Keywords: [carol costello](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carol-costello.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Twitter Traffic Threats, NATO GDP and Hellfire Missiles (1:44:06–1:47:02)

Senator McCain cites "Twitter and Facebook traffic" as evidence of a direct threat to the U.S. homeland. The hosts discuss how NATO members are being pressured to increase their GDP spending to 2%, which they claim will flow directly to U.S. defense contractors like Boeing and Raytheon for more Hellfire missiles.

Keywords: [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [hellfire missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hellfire-missiles.md), [raytheon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raytheon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Toyota Technicals, The Choice of Militants (1:47:03–1:49:42)

An NPR report highlights the ubiquity of Toyota pickup trucks among rebel groups and militias in Libya and Iraq. The hosts joke that Toyota should use "the choice of terrorists" as a slogan, noting the trucks are often modified to carry heavy anti-aircraft weapons and rocket launchers.

Keywords: [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), hilux, [tripoli](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tripoli.md), [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), anti-aircraft weapons

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Iran's Role, Wes Clark and Saudi Stability (1:49:43–1:51:18)

Senator Dianne Feinstein and General Wes Clark discuss the regional implications of the ISIS threat. Feinstein suggests Iran's help might be useful, while Clark emphasizes the threat to Saudi Arabia and the need for Sunni troops on the ground to defeat the Islamic State.

Keywords: [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), [wes clark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wes-clark.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [sunni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sunni.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Terror Laptop of Doom, Bubonic Plague and TOCD (1:51:20–1:55:34)

CNN reports on a "Terror Laptop of Doom" found in an ISIS hideout containing documents on weaponizing the bubonic plague and ricin. The hosts mock the report as sensationalist filler. They also consider "Tech Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" (TOCD) as a name for the modern smartphone addiction.

Keywords: terror laptop, [bubonic plague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bubonic-plague.md), [ricin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ricin.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), tocd

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Robot Redundancy, 11 Percent Job Loss (1:55:34–1:57:28)

A business news clip predicts that 11% of current employees will be made redundant by robots over the next five years. The hosts discuss how increasing the minimum wage might accelerate this transition to automation across various industries.

Keywords: [robots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robots.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [unemployment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment.md), [minimum wage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minimum-wage.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Chuck Todd as Casper Milquetoast, The Exhausted President (1:57:30–2:00:24)

Adam Curry compares new *Meet the Press* host Chuck Todd to the 1920s cartoon character "Casper Milquetoast," a timid and weak figure. In an interview, Todd asks Obama if he is "exhausted," allowing the president to deliver a rehearsed speech about his global responsibilities regarding Ukraine, ISIS, and Ebola.

Keywords: [chuck todd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-todd.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), casper milquetoast, [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Obot Dinners, Joe Scarborough and Israeli Moon Bases (2:00:25–2:03:37)

The hosts discuss the "Obot" (Obama-bot) culture and the format of MSNBC's *Morning Joe*. Dvorak is reminded of a past claim about "Israeli moon bases," which a listener identified as originating in Episode 141, leading to a brief moment of vindication for Curry.

Keywords: [obots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obots.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), israeli moon bases, episode 141

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Political "Optics" and Compartmentalization (2:03:39–2:06:34)

The hosts deconstruct the repetitive use of the words "optics" and "compartmentalization" by political pundits on NBC and MSNBC. They argue these terms are "insider code" used by consultants and politicians to describe how events are perceived or distorted for public consumption.

Keywords: [optics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/optics.md), compartmentalization, [chuck todd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-todd.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), beltway

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Venture Capitalist Lingo, Groupthink and Deception (2:06:35–2:12:01)

Curry notes that he has heard high-level Silicon Valley investors using the term "optics" in the same way as D.C. politicians. The hosts argue that this shared vocabulary is evidence of groupthink and a rigged system where the media and political elite signal their membership in the same "club."

Keywords: [venture capital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venture-capital.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [groupthink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/groupthink.md), [merriam-webster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merriam-webster.md), [optics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/optics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Mainstream Media Control, Global Post and Boston Connections (2:12:02–2:16:02)

The hosts conclude that the mainstream media is fully "in on it," acting as a controlled propaganda arm for the government. They point to the "Boston connection" with Global Post and the selective propagation of shocking videos as evidence of a coordinated effort to manipulate public opinion.

Keywords: [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [global post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-post.md), [boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston.md), [beheading videos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beheading-videos.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Donation Segment, Birthday Karma and Divorce Settlements (2:16:10–2:21:58)

The hosts acknowledge various donations from listeners in Connecticut, Puerto Rico, Portugal, and Belgium. They grant "divorce settlement karma" to a listener in Belgium and discuss the "Value for Value" model as a conduit for truth-seeking individuals.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), lgy, [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [portugal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portugal.md), [divorce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/divorce.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Texas Meetups, Birthday Lists and Alan Bean (2:21:59–2:25:55)

Adam Curry and John Dvorak thank more donors from Illinois, Nevada, and Texas. They discuss potential meetups in Texas and acknowledge Sir Alan Bean in Oakland, who sends a hand-written check every month.

Keywords: [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [alan bean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alan-bean.md), [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Ageism in Retail, 60th Birthdays and Iranian News (2:25:56–2:29:55)

The hosts apologize for missing a 60th birthday shout-out for Carolyn Peet. This leads to a discussion about ageism in retail, specifically the use of terms like "young lady" or "young man" for seniors. Dvorak also mentions getting Iranian news from a friend who travels to Tehran frequently.

Keywords: [ageism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ageism.md), 60th birthday, [tehran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tehran.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Knighting of Sir Hugo Becker and Sir Hey Idiot (2:30:01–2:32:57)

The hosts officially knight Hugo Becker and "Hey Idiot" of Atlas McDowell for their $1,000+ donations. They also mention a billboard in Times Square by "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" showing the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), hugo becker, atlas mcdowell, [world trade center 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-center-7.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Tide Sport Commercial, Puberty and Filler (2:32:59–2:34:51)

The hosts play a "strange" 30-second commercial for Tide Sport that features a mother talking about the smell of her son's clothes during puberty. They dismiss the clip as "filler" used to transition between segments.

Keywords: tide sport, [commercial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commercial.md), [puberty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puberty.md), [soap operas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soap-operas.md), filler

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/51.md)

### 52. First Amendment Proposal, Harry Reid and Campaign Finance (2:34:51–2:38:58)

Senator Chuck Grassley criticizes a proposal by Harry Reid to amend the First Amendment to allow Congress to regulate campaign spending. The hosts read the text of the joint resolution, which aims to limit the influence of corporations and "artificial entities" in elections, noting it is a response to the Citizens United ruling.

Keywords: [harry reed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reed.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [bill of rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-of-rights.md), [campaign finance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-finance.md), [citizens united](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizens-united.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Chicago Metra Vigilance, 9/11 Anniversary (2:38:59–2:40:40)

A recording from the Chicago Metra rail system reminds passengers to remain "vigilant" on the anniversary of September 11th. The hosts mock the "if you see something, say something" mantra as a tool for maintaining a state of fear.

Keywords: [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), metra, [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [vigilance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vigilance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/53.md)

### 54. Police Militarization, 12,000 Bayonets and School Evacuations (2:40:41–2:44:04)

During a Senate hearing, Rand Paul questions why the Department of Defense has provided 12,000 bayonets to local police departments through the 1033 program. The hosts joke that police chiefs likely order them because they are only $1 each, and they discuss the absurdity of using armored vehicles for school evacuations.

Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [police militarization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-militarization.md), bayonets, 1033 program, [school shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-shooting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/54.md)

### 55. Riot Suppression Gear, FEMA Grants and Noncompliance (2:44:05–2:46:25)

A clip from the Senate hearing reveals that certain protective gear provided by FEMA grants is technically prohibited from being used for "riot suppression." The hosts discuss the irony of this rule given the recent images of militarized police responses to protests in Missouri.

Keywords: [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), riot suppression, [ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ferguson.md), [missouri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missouri.md), [grants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/55.md)

### 56. IRS Compliance, John Koskinen and Affordable Care Act (2:46:25–2:48:34)

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen is questioned in Congress about the recapture of ineligible healthcare subsidies. The hosts highlight his comment that the IRS follows the law "wherever we can," which they interpret as a cavalier admission that the agency operates with little regard for legal constraints.

Keywords: [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [john koskinen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-koskinen.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md), [subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subsidies.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/56.md)

### 57. Megyn Kelly Gaffe, Double Agents and Society's Destruction (2:48:34–2:51:03)

The hosts play a clip of Megyn Kelly on Fox News where she uses the word "we" when referring to the FBI, suggesting she may be a media asset. They discuss the blurring lines between journalism and intelligence work and the general "destruction of society" through tech addiction.

Keywords: [megyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [double agent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/double-agent.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/57.md)

### 58. James Pennebaker, Function Words and Social Status (2:51:04–2:54:23)

The hosts discuss the work of psychologist James Pennebaker regarding "function words" (e.g., I, the, this). Pennebaker's research suggests that these "invisible" words can predict the success of relationships and reveal the relative social status of speakers, with higher-status individuals using the word "I" less frequently.

Keywords: [james pennebaker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-pennebaker.md), [university of texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-texas.md), function words, [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [social status](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-status.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/58.md)

### 59. Language Style Matching, Speed Dating and Show Business (2:54:23–2:58:14)

The discussion continues on Pennebaker's "language style matching" metric, which can predict if a couple will still be dating months later. The hosts relate this to sales techniques, neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), and the self-centered language often used by people in show business.

Keywords: speed dating, [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [show business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-business.md), [tony robbins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-robbins.md), [scientology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scientology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/59.md)

### 60. Ebola Hoax Rumors, Sierra Leone and Frontline (2:58:15–3:00:50)

A clip from a Frontline documentary describes rumors in Sierra Leone that Ebola is a "hoax" designed by doctors to steal blood. The hosts discuss the lack of compelling visuals in the documentary and the relatively low death toll compared to fictional "outbreak" scenarios.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [sierra leone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sierra-leone.md), [frontline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frontline.md), [hoax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoax.md), blood theft

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/60.md)

### 61. African Resource Grab, Nigerian Oil and Chinese Competition (3:00:54–3:03:09)

Adam Curry theorizes that the Ebola crisis is being used as a "humanitarian" cover for the U.S. military to enter West Africa and secure oil resources in places like Nigeria. He argues this is a strategic move to displace Chinese influence in the region while the local economies are paralyzed by the outbreak.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [boko haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), [west africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-africa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/61.md)

### 62. Ebola Evacuations, Phoenix Air Group and Sign-Off (3:03:10–3:06:02)

The show concludes with a report on the Phoenix Air Group evacuating Ebola victims to the U.S. and the WHO's prediction of 20,000 future cases. The hosts sign off, reminding listeners of the upcoming Sunday show and the "Value for Value" model.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), phoenix air group, [emory university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emory-university.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/651-plague-grenade/chapter/62.md)

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