# Tangible Things

> Global health scares and legislative overreach collide as the IMF signals compliance, the State Department slips on Ebola rhetoric, and new surveillance laws redefine privacy.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 639
- **Published:** 2014-07-31
- **Length:** 3h 14m
- **Topics:** Ebola origins, Tangible things, IMF compliance, Putin gas deal, Patent trolls, TSA theater
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things

## About this episode

IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde sparked controversy at the National Press Club by describing herself as a rule-follower who does as she is told, raising questions about the autonomy of global financial institutions. This admission coincides with a sudden surge in Ebola news coverage following the release of the No Agenda newsletter, prompting an investigation into the Strickland Memorandum and alleged biological weapon development at Fort Detrick. The timing of the outbreak in West Africa is being scrutinized against historical population control frameworks like the Kissinger Report and the eugenics-based Negro Project.

Geopolitical tensions escalate as a secret deal between Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin reportedly surfaces, suggesting Germany may recognize the annexation of Crimea in exchange for long-term gas security. Meanwhile, the State Department faces scrutiny after spokesperson Marie Harf appeared to read the phrase Ebola attack from a policy briefing book during a live session. In the corporate sector, Greenpeace suffered a 3 million pound loss after a staffer bet against the Euro, and the Transparent Airfares Act of 2014 is exposed as a legislative effort to allow airlines to hide taxes and fees from consumers. Senator Patrick Leahy is also under fire for the USA Freedom Act, which introduces the term tangible things to grant the Attorney General emergency authority to seize records without prior court orders.

Technical oddities define the week as Adam Curry recalls his 1990s experiments with a Sun Voyager luggable computer and a 96k modem to pioneer early audio streaming. The show celebrates the knighting of Sir Dan, who is currently testing a 480-horsepower electric vehicle in the San Fernando Valley. In a lighter moment, the hosts highlight a clip of Mika Brzezinski accidentally referring to her program as Morning Jew, while AP reporter Matt Lee continues his streak of confrontational questioning at the State Department.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/transcript.md.

### 1. Christine Lagarde, Rule Following, and National Press Club (0:00–1:55)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 639 of the No Agenda show from the South Austin Safe House and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss the concept of being a "rule follower," featuring a clip of IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde at the National Press Club. Lagarde jokingly refers to herself as someone who does as she is told.

Keywords: [christine lagarde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christine-lagarde.md), [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [national press club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-press-club.md), rule followers, south austin safe house

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/1.md)

### 2. No Agenda Search, Editorial Systems, and Beta Testing (1:55–7:46)

The hosts demonstrate the No Agenda editorial and search systems, highlighting the work of developer Dave Jones. They walk through using search.noagendanotes.com to find Senate Bill 2277, the Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014, and attempt to play the corresponding segment on the No Agenda Player. The demonstration turns into a live beta test as they encounter auto-play issues and navigation bugs.

Keywords: search.noagendanotes.com, [noagendaplayer.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noagendaplayer-com.md), [dave jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-jones.md), senate bill 2277, [beta testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beta-testing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Newsletter Production, MailChimp, and Global Distribution (7:47–10:27)

A discussion details the labor-intensive process of creating the No Agenda newsletter, which takes approximately two hours to write, edit, and format. The workflow involves multiple reviewers, including Shana and Citizen X, to catch copy errors before the final version is sent via MailChimp. They explain the timing of global distribution to ensure subscribers in different time zones receive it simultaneously.

Keywords: [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [mailchimp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mailchimp.md), [citizen x](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizen-x.md), [copy editing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copy-editing.md), [formatting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formatting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Ebola Virus, Fort Detrick, and Biological Weapon Theories (10:28–13:42)

The conversation shifts to the sudden surge in Ebola news coverage following the release of the show's newsletter. Theories are explored regarding the origins of Ebola and AIDS, specifically referencing the Strickland Memorandum and alleged government development at Fort Detrick in the 1970s. The discussion compares Ebola to the Marburg virus and notes the lack of natural immunity to these hemorrhagic strains.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [fort detrick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-detrick.md), strickland memorandum, [marburg virus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marburg-virus.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Population Control, Margaret Sanger, and Paul Ehrlich (13:42–18:53)

The hosts examine historical fears of overpopulation, citing Paul Ehrlich’s 1968 book "The Population Bomb" and his 1972 suggestions for sterilization agents. They discuss Margaret Sanger’s "Negro Project" and the eugenics movement as the foundation for Planned Parenthood. The segment suggests that historical hysteria over birth rates in Africa may have influenced the development of specific viruses.

Keywords: [paul ehrlich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-ehrlich.md), [margaret sanger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/margaret-sanger.md), [planned parenthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/planned-parenthood.md), [population bomb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-bomb.md), [eugenics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eugenics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Climate Change, White House Reports, and Risk Management (18:53–24:29)

The discussion links population control hysteria to modern climate change rhetoric, focusing on a White House report titled "The Cost of Delaying Action to Stem Climate Change." The report frames climate policy as "climate insurance," arguing for prudent action despite scientific uncertainty. The hosts critique the use of computer models to drive global policy and the financial incentives for insiders.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [carbon dioxide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-dioxide.md), anthropogenic emissions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/6.md)

### 7. NPC1 Gene, HIV, and the Kissinger Report (24:30–29:19)

A technical connection is made between Ebola and HIV through the NPC1 gene, which both viruses reportedly require for cellular entry. The hosts reference the Kissinger Report (NSSM-200) from 1974, which discussed maintaining access to minerals in the third world through population management. This document is presented as a potential framework for the geopolitical use of biological agents.

Keywords: npc1 gene, [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), kissinger report, nssm-200, lytton industries

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Marie Harf, State Department Briefings, and Ebola Attack (29:20–33:40)

The hosts analyze a State Department press briefing where spokesperson Marie Harf appears to read the phrase "Ebola attack" from her policy book. They speculate on the use of the word "missions" in West Africa, questioning if it refers to humanitarian work or CIA operations. The segment highlights the simultaneous appearance of different Ebola strains in 1976 as a point of suspicion.

Keywords: [marie harf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marie-harf.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [liberia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberia.md), ebola attack, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Dr. Kent Brantley, Samaritan's Purse, and Liberia Outbreak (33:40–36:54)

The story of Dr. Kent Brantley, a 33-year-old medical missionary for Samaritan's Purse, is detailed following his infection with Ebola in Monrovia, Liberia. Despite wearing full protective gear, Brantley fell ill, initially suspecting malaria. The hosts also trace the history of the Ivory Coast strain back to a 1994 necropsy on a chimpanzee.

Keywords: kent brantley, samaritan's purse, [liberia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberia.md), [monrovia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monrovia.md), [ivory coast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivory-coast.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Lisbon Treaty, Communicable Diseases, and Civil Liberties (36:54–38:47)

The hosts revisit the Lisbon Treaty, noting provisions that allow for the detention of individuals with communicable diseases without due process. They suggest that a virus outbreak could be used as a pretext to usher in a totalitarian state within the European Union. A listener correction is also acknowledged regarding the overused crutch word "essentially."

Keywords: [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), communicable disease, [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md), [due process](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/due-process.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Media Fear-Mongering, Al Jazeera, and Targeted Viruses (38:48–45:09)

International media coverage of Ebola is critiqued for using stock photos of "bunny suits" to incite fear in Australia and the UK. A report from Al Jazeera contrasts the healthcare infrastructure of the United States with West Africa, suggesting the virus is unlikely to spread in America. The Peace Corps is noted for evacuating hundreds of volunteers from the affected region.

Keywords: [al jazeera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-jazeera.md), [fear-mongering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fear-mongering.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md), [peace corps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peace-corps.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Yale Climate Study, Pie Charts, and Scientific Consensus (45:09–50:40)

A Yale study on communicating climate change consensus is analyzed, revealing that pie charts and simple descriptive text are more effective than metaphors for convincing the public. The study specifically notes that pie charts performed well among Republicans. The hosts question the validity of the "97% consensus" figure, demanding the raw numbers and names of the scientists involved.

Keywords: [yale university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yale-university.md), [scientific consensus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scientific-consensus.md), pie charts, [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [metaphors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metaphors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/12.md)

### 13. NOAA Data Theft, Greenpeace Losses, and Euro Strength (50:40–54:26)

News items include the theft of NOAA satellite temperature data from a contractor's personal computer and financial disarray at Greenpeace. The environmental organization reportedly lost 3 million pounds on the foreign exchange market after a staffer bet against the Euro. The hosts discuss the irrational strength of the Euro despite the lack of economic rationale.

Keywords: [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [greenpeace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greenpeace.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), foreign exchange, [euro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/13.md)

### 14. BRICS Map, IMF, and African Economic Influence (54:26–58:12)

The hosts examine a "BRICS map" that visualizes the geopolitical divide between the IMF/Bank of International Settlements system and the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa). They discuss Argentina's default and the growing economic influence of China in Africa, which is framed as a more favorable relationship for infrastructure development compared to Western exploitation.

Keywords: [brics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brics.md), [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), bank of international settlements, [argentina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/argentina.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Chinese Corporate Culture, Manufacturing, and Trust Issues (58:12–1:03:57)

A listener in the architectural business in China provides a report on the country's money-hungry corporate culture and lack of safety standards. The discussion covers "dickhead moves" in business, the necessity of on-the-ground inspection for Chinese manufacturing, and cultural differences in trust. An anecdote is shared about a Malaysian-Chinese publisher bragging about expensive wine before switching it for a cheaper bottle.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [foxconn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foxconn.md), acer, [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), [quality control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quality-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Chinese Chicken Imports, Russia Proxy War, and Oil Exports (1:03:57–1:07:10)

The hosts discuss a potential national protest against importing Chinese chicken following a Fox News report on food safety. They also analyze an interview with MP Malcolm Rifkind, who accidentally mentions "exporting oil" instead of military equipment when discussing sanctions against Putin, suggesting the conflict is a proxy war involving Russian oil sales to China.

Keywords: chinese chicken, foster farms, [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), malcolm rifkind, [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Morning Greetings, Artistes, and Early Streaming History (1:07:10–1:09:24)

Adam and John exchange formal "In the Morning" greetings and thank the "artistes" who create show artwork. Adam reminisces about his early experiments with streaming audio in the 1990s using a Sun Voyager luggable computer and a 96.6k modem, which he recognized then as the future of broadcasting.

Keywords: sun voyager, pcm codec, spark 10, [streaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming.md), [car audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/car-audio.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Sir Dan, Battery Cars, and Porn Valley Knighting (1:09:26–1:12:57)

Daniel Horwitz is knighted as "Sir Dan, Builder of Battery Cars, Knight of Porn Valley" after a $639 donation. He provides an update on his high-performance electric car, which currently boasts 480 horsepower and is being tested in the San Fernando Valley. The hosts discuss the legendary status of the vehicle and its No Agenda signage.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), battery cars, van nuys, [san fernando valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-fernando-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Sir Snorkel, North Lakes, and De-douching (1:12:58–1:14:37)

Aiden Clark from North Lakes, Queensland, is knighted as "Sir Snorkel." He requests a "girlfriend experience" and good bourbon as part of his ceremony. The hosts perform a "de-douching" and grant him karma as he catches up on past episodes of the program.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [queensland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queensland.md), snorkel, [bourbon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bourbon.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Baron of Wales, Jeopardy Mentions, and Hollywood Listeners (1:14:37–1:18:44)

Philip Meason is named the "Baron of Wales" following a $333.33 donation. The hosts then discuss potential "No Agenda" references on the game show Jeopardy, featuring clips of Alec Trebek saying "In the morning" during clues about Hot Pockets and Quaker Oats. They speculate on the number of Hollywood producers who listen to the show to escape propaganda.

Keywords: [wales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wales.md), [jeopardy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeopardy.md), alec trebek, [hot pockets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-pockets.md), [quaker oats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quaker-oats.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Boerne Texas, Governor Ambitions, and Emojis (1:18:44–1:22:07)

Judy Schwartz from Boerne, Texas, donates toward her knighthood and suggests Adam Curry should run for Governor of Texas. Adam jokes about turning the governor's mansion into a "party palace" with stripper poles. The segment transitions into a discussion about a listener's frustration with a 30-minute conversation about emojis on the TWiT network.

Keywords: boerne, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [governor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/governor.md), [mansion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mansion.md), [emojis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emojis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Twitter Conflict, Christina Warren, and Sexism in Tech (1:22:08–1:27:10)

Adam Curry recounts a Twitter conflict with Mashable's Christina Warren (Film_Girl) following a TWiT episode. Adam argues that the tech media is sexist for only asking female guests about the Kardashian app and "poop emojis" rather than serious technology. He defends his "washed up VJ" status while critiquing the shallow nature of modern tech journalism.

Keywords: [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), christina warren, [mashable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mashable.md), [sexism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexism.md), kardashian app

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Ryan Block, PC Magazine, and High School Donors (1:27:11–1:31:10)

John Dvorak discusses being called "grumpy" by Ryan Block following a PC Magazine column skeptical of the Apple Watch. The hosts then thank a high school student, Timothy from New York City, who donated $200 before starting college. They praise the "courage" of young listeners who support the show despite being "ripped off" by the education system.

Keywords: [ryan block](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ryan-block.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md), [apple watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-watch.md), [high school](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-school.md), [college](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/college.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Classic No Agenda, Short Stories, and Roswell (1:31:11–1:33:46)

The hosts promote "Classic No Agenda," a project by Ramsey Kane to republish the show from episode one as a podcast feed. They also highlight a new short story by Scott McKenzie available on Amazon, which involves a 90-year-old man, an assassination attempt, and the 1947 Roswell incident.

Keywords: classic no agenda, [scott mckenzie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-mckenzie.md), [roswell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roswell.md), [kindle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kindle.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Matt Lee, Mac and Cheese Fatality, and Animal Sex on PBS (1:33:47–1:38:36)

Adam mentions a Twitter interaction with AP reporter Matt Lee regarding a "free beer" offer in Austin. The segment covers a bizarre news story about a blind driver in Berkeley who killed a professor while allegedly eating macaroni and cheese. Finally, the hosts express disgust over a PBS program featuring animal mating and porcupine masturbation, labeling it "bestiality."

Keywords: [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [ap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ap.md), [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [bestiality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bestiality.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, 9/11 Controversy, and Movie PR (1:38:37–1:42:01)

The hosts critique a "fabricated" controversy surrounding a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie poster that featured an exploding skyscraper and a September 11th release date in Australia. They argue Paramount Pictures created the story for free publicity. They also mention a Philip Seymour Hoffman movie trailer that uses a reference to heroin to grab attention.

Keywords: teenage mutant ninja turtles, [paramount pictures](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paramount-pictures.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), philip seymour hoffman, [movie trailer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/movie-trailer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/26.md)

### 27. 28 Pages, Glenn Beck, and Hillary Clinton (1:42:01–1:47:46)

The "28 pages" of the 9/11 Commission Report become a topic of discussion following a Glenn Beck segment. The hosts suggest the pages are a "red herring" that likely implicate Mossad or Saudi Arabia but are being used now to politically damage Hillary Clinton's future presidential run. They note that congressmen have the legal immunity to reveal the contents on the House floor but choose not to.

Keywords: [28 pages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/28-pages.md), [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [9/11 commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-commission.md), [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Healthcare.gov Costs, Tech Reporting, and Matt Lee Bromance (1:47:46–1:50:49)

The Wall Street Journal reports that the construction of Healthcare.gov cost $840 million, a figure the hosts find ridiculous for a website. They critique the "pathetic" state of tech reporting and return to their "bromance" with AP reporter Matt Lee, praising his snide questioning of State Department officials like Jen Psaki.

Keywords: [healthcare.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare-gov.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), tech reporting

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Gaza Conflict, Wolf Blitzer, and Band Camp Memes (1:50:49–1:56:04)

The hosts analyze media coverage of the Gaza conflict, specifically Wolf Blitzer's reporting from Israel and Marie Harf's defense of US munitions sales to the IDF. A listener note from "Sir DH Slammer" claims a connection to the State Department PR team and a plan to get Marie Harf to say the "one time at band camp" meme on microphone.

Keywords: [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [marie harf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marie-harf.md), booze allen hamilton

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Kurdish Oil, Turkish Women, and Erdogan (1:56:07–2:00:28)

A tanker of Kurdish oil is reportedly being offloaded near the US coast despite legal threats. In Turkey, women are protesting a deputy prime minister's comment that they should not laugh in public. The hosts discuss the ongoing arrests of "Gulenists" and the political setup to potentially remove President Erdogan from power.

Keywords: [kurdistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurdistan.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erdogan.md), [gulenists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gulenists.md), [women's rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/women-s-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Russian Sanctions, EU Loopholes, and 90-Day Debt (2:00:29–2:05:10)

Analyst Doug Herbert explains the "loopholes" in the new sanctions against Russia, noting that the French Mistral warship contract and the entire Russian gas industry are exempt. The hosts examine a White House transcript revealing that sanctions on Russian banks only apply to debt financing over 90 days, allowing short-term business to continue.

Keywords: [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), doug herbert, [mistral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mistral.md), 90-day debt

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Merkel-Putin Secret Deal, Yukos Case, and Frozen Assets (2:05:11–2:11:33)

The Independent reveals a "secret deal" between Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin to end the Ukraine crisis by recognizing Crimea's annexation in exchange for gas security. Simultaneously, an international court in The Hague awarded $50 billion to former Yukos shareholders, which the hosts describe as a "bonanza" to seize frozen Russian assets in Europe.

Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), yukos, [the hague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-hague.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/32.md)

### 33. McDonald's Russia Ban, Bear Fillings, and Economic Backlash (2:11:33–2:15:27)

Russia moves to ban certain McDonald's products, citing incorrect nutritional data; the hosts joke about "ice cream with bear fillings." They discuss the potential backlash of sanctions on European companies like BP and Renault, which have heavy investments in Russia. Putin warns of "grave consequences" for the West as the economic war escalates.

Keywords: [mcdonald's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonald-s.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [rosneft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rosneft.md), [bp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bp.md), [exxonmobil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exxonmobil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/33.md)

### 34. The Economist on Putin, Victoria Nuland, and Berlin Spies (2:15:27–2:20:49)

The Economist publishes a scathing cover story on Vladimir Putin's "web of lies" regarding flight MH17. The hosts suggest the US is using the crisis to "screw the EU," as famously stated by Victoria Nuland. They also speculate that figures like Jacob Applebaum and Laura Poitras living in Berlin are part of a compromised intelligence circle.

Keywords: [the economist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-economist.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snowden.md), [tor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/34.md)

### 35. TI-99 Missing Key, Car Seat Jingles, and Formula (2:20:50–2:23:12)

The hosts recall a historical tech blunder where the Texas Instruments TI-99 computer was released without a control key. They play a clip of a producer's two-year-old daughter shouting the "No Agenda" formula from her car seat, which Adam describes as "good work" in training the next generation of listeners.

Keywords: [texas instruments](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-instruments.md), ti-99, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), car seat, [formula](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formula.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/35.md)

### 36. PBS Car Donations, Lumosity Violations, and Donor Roll (2:23:16–2:31:06)

Adam and John critique a KQED car donation advertisement as an illegal "call for action" for a non-commercial station. They also flag NPR's Lumosity ads as violations for claiming the product was created by "leading scientists." The segment concludes with a roll call of donors from Alberta, Ohio, and Wisconsin, including a "student number 33."

Keywords: [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [kqed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kqed.md), [lumosity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lumosity.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), car donation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Free Thinkers, Morning Jew, and Birthday Wishes (2:31:06–2:35:05)

The hosts celebrate the diversity of their audience, which includes members of the intelligence community, military, and various sexualities and religions. They play a clip of Mika Brzezinski accidentally calling "Morning Joe" "Morning Jew." The segment ends with birthday wishes for listeners' children and a discussion on the similarities between Welsh and Frisian languages.

Keywords: free thinkers, [morning joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-joe.md), [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), friesian

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Knighting Ceremony, Gaffer Tape, and Tech News (2:35:06–2:37:23)

A formal knighting ceremony is held for Sir Dan and Sir Snorkel, featuring the traditional "mutton and mead" litany. The hosts joke that the show is held together with "gaffer tape and bailing wire." John Dvorak reports that there is "no tech news" because Apple has not made any new phone announcements.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), sir dan, sir snorkel, [gaffer tape](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffer-tape.md), [tech news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Podcasting Patent, Adam Carolla, and EFF (2:37:23–2:42:06)

Adam Curry provides a detailed analysis of the Personal Audio podcasting patent lawsuit. He critiques Adam Carolla for raising money for a "fight that doesn't exist" after the suit was dropped and urges him to give the funds to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). Curry argues the patent review process is the only way to actually invalidate the 504 patent.

Keywords: [personal audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/personal-audio.md), [adam carolla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-carolla.md), [eff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eff.md), [patent troll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patent-troll.md), 504 patent

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Playlist Patents, Apple Licensing, and Archer Clips (2:42:06–2:47:25)

The discussion continues on patents, noting that Apple previously paid $8 million to license a "playlist" patent to avoid future litigation. The hosts then play clips from the animated show "Archer" that satirize the CIA selling cocaine to fund arms for Iraq (or Iran), noting how the show's nuances mirror "No Agenda" themes.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), playlist, archer, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [iran-contra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-contra.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Transparent Airfares Act, TSA Fees, and Consumer Deception (2:47:25–2:52:45)

The "Transparent Airfares Act of 2014" is exposed as a law that actually encourages consumer deception by allowing airlines to advertise base fares without taxes or fees. The hosts explain that the law permits these extra costs to be hidden in pop-ups or links, effectively legalizing "bait and switch" advertising for the travel industry.

Keywords: transparent airfares act, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), base fare, fine print

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/41.md)

### 42. TSA Security Challenge, Pre-Check, and Theater (2:52:45–2:56:24)

The TSA is offering a $15,000 reward for ideas to make security lines move faster at airports like SeaTac. The hosts note that "Pre-check" has shifted from a security screening to a "frequent flyer" perk. Adam's suggestion for the prize is to "build a bigger theater" with spotlights, mocking the performative nature of airport security.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), security challenge, [seatac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seatac.md), [pre-check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-check.md), [frequent flyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frequent-flyer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/42.md)

### 43. USA Freedom Act, Patrick Leahy, and Tangible Things (2:56:25–3:02:15)

Senator Patrick Leahy's "USA Freedom Act" is analyzed and described as a expansion of government power rather than a reform. The bill introduces the term "tangible things" and gives the Attorney General "emergency authority" to seize records based on "common sense" without a prior court order. The hosts argue the bill provides total liability protection for companies that cooperate.

Keywords: [usa freedom act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usa-freedom-act.md), [patrick leahy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-leahy.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), tangible things

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/43.md)

### 44. iPhone Battery Drain, FBI Snooping, and National Security Letters (3:02:17–3:08:06)

An anecdote is shared about iPhones draining batteries rapidly in an office across from where President Obama was staying, suggesting remote activation of microphones. The hosts discuss how the Leahy bill streamlines FBI snooping and replaces National Security Letters (NSLs) with new non-disclosure prohibitions that prevent banks and companies from revealing government data requests.

Keywords: [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), nsl, [wiretap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wiretap.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Marijuana Legalization, David Brooks, and Outro (3:08:07–3:14:17)

The show concludes with a critique of a "Meet the Press" segment on marijuana legalization. The hosts mock David Brooks and other pundits for their hypocrisy and the claim that regular teenage use results in the loss of "eight IQ points." Adam and John sign off, reminding listeners to support the show for the upcoming Sunday episode.

Keywords: [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), [meet the press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meet-the-press.md), iq points

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/639-tangible-things/chapter/45.md)

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