# Appification Generation > Geopolitical tensions escalate as the MH17 disaster forces a confrontation between European energy dependency and a coordinated Western push for Russian sanctions. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 636 - **Published:** 2014-07-20 - **Length:** 3h 20m - **Topics:** [MH17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [Gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [Buk Missile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buk-missile.md), [Carbon Tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-tax.md), Appification, Ginger.io, [Iron Dome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iron-dome.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation ## About this episode The downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine serves as a geopolitical catalyst to sever European energy ties with Russia. Hillary Clinton and Zbigniew Brzezinski advocate for immediate sanctions against Gazprom, while Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and German Chancellor Angela Merkel maintain a cautious stance to protect domestic economic stability. The narrative shift suggests a coordinated effort to isolate Vladimir Putin by framing the disaster as an act of state-sponsored terrorism. Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk characterizes the crash as a war against the world during an emergency UN Security Council session. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama deploys the FBI and NTSB to investigate, warning the public against misinformation that contradicts the official Washington position. Technical analysis of the SA-11 Buk missile system challenges the media portrayal of the perpetrators as untrained militants, as NATO Electronic Warfare exercises in the region suggest potential radar spoofing or transponder jamming. Professor Stephen Cohen provides a dissenting view, arguing that the Kiev government's rejection of a ceasefire intensified the conflict leading to the tragedy. Adam Curry addresses a confusing Google Alert linking his name to a New Jersey heroin arrest while John C. Dvorak recounts the deportation of a plum-stealing squirrel to Berkeley. The hosts examine the appification of society and the decline of digital creativity, noting how modern technology prioritizes consumption over the deep creation seen in previous decades. The episode concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Anonymous and Sir Ian Prentice, recognizing their significant contributions to the value-for-value model. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 636 Introduction and Studio Logistics (0:00–5:31) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 636 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Austin and Silicon Valley. Dvorak discusses the logistical difficulties of moving his studio, specifically his inability to find essential show instruments like his slide whistle and orchestral kazoo. The hosts briefly mention a future discussion regarding PBS and NPR underwriting before transitioning into the day's primary news. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [fema region 9](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-9.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), episode 636 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 Downing and Geopolitical Context (5:32–13:02) The discussion focuses on the July 17, 2014, downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine. Analysis centers on the geopolitical implications for Russia, the United States, and Europe, specifically regarding the control of natural gas pipelines and Gazprom's influence. The narrative suggests the event serves as a catalyst to force European nations, particularly the Netherlands and Germany, to diversify their energy interests away from Russia. Keywords: [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [malaysia airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaysia-airlines.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/2.md) ### 3. MH17 Conspiracy Theories and Putin's Strategic Interests (13:03–15:55) The hosts evaluate various conspiracy theories surrounding the MH17 crash, including claims of pre-loaded corpses and tampered passports. They argue that Vladimir Putin had no logical motive to down a civilian airliner, as it undermines his strategic goal of keeping the West at a distance while maintaining influence in Ukraine. The segment highlights the statistical anomalies often present in major aviation disasters. Keywords: [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [malaysian airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaysian-airlines.md), aviation accidents, [passports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passports.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Hillary Clinton Charlie Rose Interview on Russia Sanctions (15:56–24:57) Hillary Clinton appears in a featured interview with Charlie Rose to discuss the MH17 disaster and the necessary international response. She advocates for tougher European sanctions and an immediate acceleration of efforts to find energy alternatives to Gazprom. The analysis suggests Clinton's rhetoric aligns with a long-term neocon strategy to isolate Russia and secure energy corridors through places like Baku and Georgia. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [baku](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baku.md), [azerbaijan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/azerbaijan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Dutch Government Response and European Energy Dependency (24:58–29:39) The Dutch government's cautious reaction to the MH17 tragedy is attributed to the Netherlands' deep economic ties with Russia and Gazprom. Prime Minister Mark Rutte's focus on body recovery rather than immediate military or political retaliation reflects the country's vulnerability as a major trading partner of Russia. The segment explores how the lack of official outrage in European capitals stems from a fear of economic destabilization. Keywords: [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [rotterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rotterdam.md), [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Arseniy Yatsenyuk UN Security Council Emergency Session Speech (29:40–31:47) Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk delivers a dramatic speech calling for an emergency UN Security Council meeting following the MH17 crash. He characterizes the event as a "war against the world" and labels the perpetrators "Russian-led terrorists." The hosts critique the theatrical nature of his delivery and the immediate push for international intervention. Keywords: [arseniy yatsenyuk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arseniy-yatsenyuk.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [security council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-council.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), russian-led terrorists [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/6.md) ### 7. President Obama Statement on MH17 Evidence and Misinformation (31:47–35:52) President Barack Obama addresses the nation regarding the MH17 crash, emphasizing the need for an immediate investigation and the preservation of evidence. He announces that the FBI and NTSB are being deployed to assist in the probe. The hosts analyze his specific warning against "misinformation," suggesting it sets a narrative framework that dismisses any evidence contradicting the official US government position. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md), [evidence tampering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evidence-tampering.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/7.md) ### 8. State Department Press Briefing on Samantha Power and FBI Involvement (35:52–38:38) A State Department briefing features a journalist questioning Jen Psaki about the potential conflict of interest in the MH17 investigation. The reporter points out that Ambassador Samantha Power has already reached a conclusion blaming Russia before the FBI-assisted investigation has even begun. Psaki defends the use of FBI expertise while struggling to explain the pre-determined nature of the administration's claims. Keywords: [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [samantha power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samantha-power.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [investigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investigation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Julia Ioffe New Republic Commentary on Ukrainian Conflict (38:39–40:45) Julia Ioffe of the New Republic provides media commentary on the MH17 downing, describing the perpetrators as "boneheads with surface-to-air missiles." The hosts critique her characterization of the conflict and her role in the media circuit. They suggest her rhetoric is part of a broader effort to simplify a complex military situation for American audiences. Keywords: julia ioffe, [new republic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-republic.md), [donbass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donbass.md), [surface-to-air missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surface-to-air-missiles.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/9.md) ### 10. MH17 Flight Path and Commercial Airspace Decisions (40:46–48:09) Aviation experts and journalists discuss why MH17 was flying over a known combat zone in eastern Ukraine. While the airspace was technically open above 32,000 feet, carriers like Air France and British Airways had already begun avoiding the region. The discussion explores whether Malaysia Airlines' decision to fly the route was a purely commercial choice to save fuel costs or if they were misled about the safety of the corridor. Keywords: james fallows, atlantic magazine, [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [air france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md), [british airways](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-airways.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/10.md) ### 11. SA-11 Buk Missile System Technical Analysis and Attribution (48:10–1:00:37) The technical operation of the SA-11 Buk missile system is examined, focusing on its semi-active homing radar requirements. The hosts argue that operating such a system requires significant skill, contradicting the "drunken bonehead" narrative presented in the media. Representative Peter King is featured calling for sanctions on Aeroflot and blaming Vladimir Putin directly for the deaths of passengers. Keywords: sa-11, [buk missile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buk-missile.md), [radar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radar.md), [peter king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-king.md), [aeroflot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aeroflot.md), [samantha power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samantha-power.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/11.md) ### 12. CNN Virtual Studio Analysis of Missile Launch Tracks (1:00:39–1:06:07) CNN's Tom Foreman uses a virtual 3D studio to demonstrate how US satellites allegedly tracked the heat signature and radar signal of the missile that hit MH17. Despite the high-tech presentation, the hosts note that the report concludes with an admission that the exact launch site and perpetrators remain unconfirmed. The segment highlights the discrepancy between "high-tech facts" and the reliance on unverified YouTube videos and phone calls. Keywords: tom foreman, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [satellite imagery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellite-imagery.md), heat signature [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/12.md) ### 13. NATO Electronic Warfare Exercises and Radar Spoofing Theory (1:06:08–1:17:25) A detailed theory is presented linking the MH17 downing to NATO Electronic Warfare Force Integration Period (NUFIP) exercises held in early June. The hosts suggest that radar outages in Europe during that time were related to training for jamming and spoofing civilian transponders. They propose a scenario where a military jet shadowed MH17, spoofing its signal to trick ground-based missile operators into firing on what appeared to be a military target. Keywords: nufip, [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [electronic warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-warfare.md), radar jamming, [false flag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/false-flag.md), [hungary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hungary.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Zbigniew Brzezinski on Putin and European Cohesion (1:17:25–1:22:05) Geopolitical strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski outlines the "historically defining moment" created by the MH17 crash. He argues that Vladimir Putin must be forced to "redeem himself" by handing over those responsible to an international tribunal. Brzezinski calls for European leaders, including Merkel, Hollande, and Cameron, to end their economic and energy dependence on Russia to maintain international security. Keywords: [zbigniew brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zbigniew-brzezinski.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [francois hollande](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francois-hollande.md), [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Angela Merkel Cautious Stance on MH17 Investigation (1:22:05–1:24:23) German Chancellor Angela Merkel takes a more measured approach compared to US and UK leaders, calling for an independent investigation before drawing conclusions or implementing new sanctions. Her stance reflects Germany's complex relationship with Russia and a desire to avoid premature escalation. The hosts contrast her "holding back" with the "tough stance" taken by President Obama. Keywords: [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [investigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investigation.md), [france 24](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france-24.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Professor Stephen Cohen on Ukrainian Complicity and Ceasefire (1:24:23–1:29:24) Professor Stephen Cohen provides a dissenting view on CNN, arguing that the US-backed government in Kiev is complicit in the tragedy by intensifying the war in eastern Ukraine. He points out that Ukraine rejected a ceasefire in June, leading to the humanitarian catastrophe that set the stage for the MH17 downing. Cohen suggests that only a negotiated settlement involving Washington and Moscow can end the conflict. Keywords: [stephen cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-cohen.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [kiev](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kiev.md), [washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), humanitarian catastrophe [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Historical Context of Civilian Airliners Shot Down (1:29:26–1:32:56) The media's use of historical precedents, such as the 1988 US downing of Iran Air 655 and the 1983 Soviet downing of KAL 007, is analyzed. The hosts argue that the history of the KAL 007 flight is being rewritten to omit evidence that it was a spy mission. They suggest these historical reminders are used to prime the public for the current narrative against Russia. Keywords: uss vincennes, iran air 655, kal 007, [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), history rewrite [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/17.md) ### 18. No Agenda Executive Producer Donations and Karma (1:32:58–1:40:09) The hosts acknowledge high-value donations from producers Daniel Horowitz and Grand Duke Sir David Foley. Horowitz's contribution of $333.33 is noted alongside his project building a custom Porsche 944 battery car to race against Teslas. Sir David Foley's donation of $333.33 from the road prompts a discussion on "EW" (Electronic Warfare) and the quality of the day's MH17 analysis. Keywords: daniel horowitz, [david foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-foley.md), porsche 944, [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [electronic warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-warfare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Listener Letters and Associate Executive Producer Credits (1:40:10–1:44:32) A handwritten note from Thomas Butterick in Dayton, Ohio, accompanies a donation for his brother Samuel's 30th birthday. Additionally, an anonymous donor from Brooklyn contributes $265.70 toward their first knighthood. The hosts discuss the unique "architectural" handwriting of Butterick and prepare for the upcoming knighting ceremony. Keywords: [thomas butterick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-butterick.md), [dayton ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dayton-ohio.md), anonymous brooklyn, [knighting ceremony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting-ceremony.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/19.md) ### 20. World Peace Initiative and Producer Vouching (1:44:34–1:46:23) Emily Bullinger donates $201 to promote her world peace initiative and "Overmind" comic. The hosts conclude the producer segment by reminding listeners that they can obtain executive producer credits at Dvorak.org/NA, which the hosts will personally vouch for if questioned by outside parties. Keywords: emily bullinger, world peace, [chantix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chantix.md), [dvorak.org](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-org.md), [producer credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producer-credits.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Adam Curry Heroin Google Alert and Name Confusion (1:46:23–1:50:28) Adam Curry shares a humorous but concerning Google Alert he received for "Adam Curry heroin." The alert referred to two brothers in Wayne, New Jersey, named Brian and Adam Curry, who were arrested on drug and gun charges. This leads to a discussion about the prevalence of the name Adam Curry and the likelihood of children being named after the former MTV VJ in the late 1980s. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [heroin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heroin.md), [new jersey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-jersey.md), google alerts, [stephen curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-curry.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/21.md) ### 22. NPR and PBS Underwriting Guidelines Analysis (1:50:28–1:55:22) The hosts examine the official underwriting guidelines for NPR and PBS, noting that they are strictly prohibited from airing traditional advertisements or "calls to action." They argue that many modern underwriting spots, including those on "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!", violate these rules by providing phone numbers and promotional descriptions. The segment critiques the blurring line between public broadcasting and commercial advertising. Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [underwriting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwriting.md), call to action, bill curtis, [wait wait don't tell me](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wait-wait-don-t-tell-me.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Australia Scraps Carbon Emissions Tax (1:55:23–1:57:09) Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott announces the successful abolition of the country's carbon emissions tax, fulfilling a major campaign promise. Abbott describes the tax as "useless and destructive" to the economy and families. The hosts recall former Prime Minister Julia Gillard's political downfall after implementing the tax despite promising not to do so. Keywords: [tony abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-abbott.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [carbon tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-tax.md), [julia gillard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julia-gillard.md), [environment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/23.md) ### 24. No Agenda Archives and the 33 Meme Origin (1:57:11–2:03:43) John C. Dvorak explores the No Agenda archives, specifically episode 133 from 2009, to find the origin of the "33 meme." He notes that in early episodes, the number 33 was mentioned in passing (such as the 33rd floor of a hotel) without the current significance. The segment also includes a correction regarding Harry Reid's comments on the "five white men" of the Supreme Court in the Hobby Lobby case, noting Clarence Thomas's presence. Keywords: 33rd floor, [w hotel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/w-hotel.md), [archives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archives.md), [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md), [clarence thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clarence-thomas.md), [hobby lobby](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hobby-lobby.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Harmonica Complaints and Host Relationship Dynamics (2:03:44–2:12:57) A listener email from "Mike C." complains about the piercing volume of the harmonica during the show, particularly for those using earbuds. This leads to a broader discussion about the hosts' "magical formula" of collaboration and Dvorak's occasionally dismissive attitude toward Curry. Curry recounts meeting two law librarians in Austin who praised the show's legal analysis and the hosts' unique partnership. Keywords: [harmonica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harmonica.md), [earbuds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earbuds.md), [university of nebraska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-nebraska.md), university of richmond, law librarians [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Wearable Tech Issues and Geekatoo SEO (2:12:57–2:17:55) The tech segment covers problems with wearable devices lighting up in movie theaters and the utility of gaffer tape for fixing various issues. Adam Curry describes his experience using "Geekatoo," a service that successfully used SEO to intercept customers searching for Geek Squad. He notes the service was significantly cheaper and more efficient for mounting a television in his new home. Keywords: [wearables](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wearables.md), [gaffer tape](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffer-tape.md), [geek squad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geek-squad.md), geekatoo, [seo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seo.md), chris beard [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Elizabeth Warren Netroots Nation Speech and 2016 Candidacy (2:17:56–2:31:15) Senator Elizabeth Warren delivers a high-energy "We Believe" speech at the Netroots Nation conference in Detroit. The hosts analyze the speech as a definitive presidential primary pitch, noting her populist rhetoric on Wall Street, student debt, and "science." They suggest Warren is successfully outflanking Hillary Clinton by appealing to the progressive grassroots of the Democratic Party. Keywords: [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [netroots nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netroots-nation.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md), [progressives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/progressives.md), [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Cultural Decline and the Lack of Digital Creativity (2:31:17–2:39:14) A philosophical discussion ensues regarding the perceived decline of creative culture in the digital age. The hosts argue that modern technology encourages "swiping and tapping" rather than the deep creation seen in the 1960s and 70s. They blame the "appification" of society, pharmaceutical over-prescription (Ritalin), and restrictive copyright laws for the lack of a modern "Bob Dylan" or experimental cinema. Keywords: [bob dylan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-dylan.md), [ritalin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ritalin.md), appification, [copyright law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright-law.md), [adobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobe.md), [coachella](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coachella.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Dead Media and the Loss of Analog Archives (2:39:15–2:43:33) The hosts discuss the crisis of "dead media," where historical television and personal archives are being lost because the playback equipment (like two-inch Ampex machines or Umatic players) no longer exists. Dvorak recounts saving his own show tapes from being thrown out at TechTV. They emphasize the importance of creating physical objects and printing photos to ensure long-term preservation. Keywords: [ampex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ampex.md), umatic, [vhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vhs.md), digital migration, milton berle, [tech tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-tv.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/29.md) ### 30. No Agenda Donation Segment and Global Anxiety (2:43:34–2:52:49) The final donation segment lists contributors from across the globe, including Ian Prentice and Colin Nistore. The hosts reject the use of services like Patreon, advocating for their direct "value for value" model. The discussion briefly touches on the Ebola virus outbreak in Africa and the psychological toll the MH17 news cycle is taking on the public, advising listeners to "turn it off" and seek reality elsewhere. Keywords: [patreon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patreon.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [mh17](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh17.md), ebola virus, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/30.md) ### 31. No Agenda Knighting Ceremony for Sir Anonymous and Sir Ian (2:52:49–2:54:41) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a formal knighting ceremony for two producers who have contributed $1,000 or more to the show. Sir Anonymous from Brooklyn and Sir Ian Prentice are welcomed to the No Agenda Roundtable. The hosts list the traditional (and humorous) rewards of knighthood and direct the new knights to claim their rings at NoAgendaStore.com. Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [sir anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-anonymous.md), sir ian prentice, [no agenda rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-rings.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/31.md) ### 32. TSA Imposter at SFO and Investment Banker Arrest (2:54:42–2:58:11) A news report details the arrest of 53-year-old Eric Slighton, an international investment banker from Singapore, who allegedly impersonated a TSA agent at San Francisco International Airport. Slighton is accused of luring women into private booths for unauthorized pat-downs while intoxicated. The hosts marvel at how easily he bypassed security using only blue gloves and a similar-colored shirt. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [sfo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sfo.md), eric slighton, investment banker, [singapore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/singapore.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/32.md) ### 33. ING Bank Bitcoin Analysis and Nobel Prize Claims (2:58:12–3:01:35) ING Bank releases a video analysis of Bitcoin, discussing its properties as a means of exchange and unit of account. The bank suggests that while Bitcoin is currently too volatile to be "real money," an algorithm that could stabilize its value would qualify its inventors for a Nobel Prize in Economics. The hosts find the bank's serious treatment of cryptocurrency both surprising and "insane." Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [ing bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ing-bank.md), [cryptocurrency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cryptocurrency.md), [tim draper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-draper.md), [nobel prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nobel-prize.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Haiti Olympic Sports Complex and Iron Dome Debris (3:01:36–3:03:13) The International Olympic Committee and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon open a new $18 million sports complex in Haiti, despite the country's ongoing struggle with cholera and poverty. In a separate update, the hosts discuss the "Iron Dome" missile defense system in Israel, noting that falling debris from intercepted rockets poses a significant, often unreported, risk to civilians on the ground. Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [ban ki-moon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ban-ki-moon.md), [olympic committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympic-committee.md), [iron dome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iron-dome.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/636-appification-generation/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Squirrel Deportation and Ginger.io Behavioral Tracking (3:03:14–3:12:49) John C. Dvorak recounts his "Caddyshack" style battle with a squirrel eating his plums, which ended in the squirrel's "deportation" to Berkeley. This leads to a discussion of Ginger.io, a new app that uses smartphone sensor data to track a user's mental health and alert providers if they become lethargic or isolated. The hosts view this as a precursor to invasive wearable surveillance. 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