# Climate Chaos

> From the streets of Tokyo to the halls of the FCC, the narrative of managed chaos governs everything from climate deadlines to internet fast lanes.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 617
- **Published:** 2014-05-15
- **Length:** 2h 50m
- **Topics:** [Shinzo Abe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shinzo-abe.md), [Net Neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [Boko Haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [TSA PreCheck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa-precheck.md), Climate Chaos, [Comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [Tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2

## About this episode

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe moves to revise Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution as Adam Curry reports from Tokyo on the ground-level realities of Japanese militarization. The host details a burgeoning sex strike led by Japanese women in protest of new arms export policies, while also examining the deep-state ties of journalist Jake Adelstein. Amidst the backdrop of a massive Russia-China oil deal and the South Stream pipeline negotiations, the episode deconstructs the geopolitical shifts occurring across the Pacific Rim.

TSA Administrator John Pistole defends the managed inclusion of unvetted passengers into PreCheck lanes as a form of security randomization, a move the hosts label as pure security theater. Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff and Senator Sheldon Whitehouse warn of a cyber theft bonanza, claiming the Internet of Things will lead to hacked pacemakers and smart refrigerator scams. Meanwhile, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius introduces the term climate chaos while setting a 500-day deadline for global action, and NASA scientists declare the melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet to be unstoppable.

Adam Curry recounts the hospitality of architects Mark Dytham and Astrid Klein, involving high-end Hibiki whiskey and live Sumo wrestling broadcasts in luxury vehicles. The segment features a forensic breakdown of Boko Haram video production and a mockery of MSNBC host Ronan Farrow for his late-to-the-party reporting on the Pentagon’s CONPLAN 8888 zombie apocalypse training scenario. John C. Dvorak identifies the specific demographic of cable news viewers by analyzing commercials for chronic constipation medication.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/transcript.md.

### 1. Skype Connection Issues, Printing Problems, and A4 Paper Rant (0:00–5:37)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 617 of No Agenda, dealing with a delayed Skype connection between Tokyo and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss the frustrations of modern web design, specifically how JavaScript and advertising prevent clean printing of web pages. The conversation touches on the benefits of printing to PDF and mentions listener feedback regarding a previous rant against A4 paper dimensions.

Keywords: [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [javascript](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javascript.md), [pdf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pdf.md), [a4 paper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/a4-paper.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Tokyo Observations, Automatic Taxi Doors, and Cultural Etiquette (5:40–11:35)

Adam Curry shares his initial impressions of Tokyo, noting the lush greenery and the cleanliness of the streets which contradicted his expectations. He highlights the unique behavior of Japanese taxis, specifically the lace doilies on seats and the automatic rear doors that passengers are forbidden from touching. The hosts discuss the term "gaijin" and the high level of politeness encountered in Japanese society.

Keywords: [tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), [taxi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxi.md), gaijin, [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md), automatic doors

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Language Barriers, Navigation Challenges, and Tokyo Accommodations (11:36–13:57)

The discussion shifts to the difficulty of communicating with Tokyo taxi drivers who often cannot read English addresses or maps. John C. Dvorak suggests using bilingual hotel cards for navigation, but Adam explains they are staying in a private apartment without concierge services. They describe the challenges of being self-sufficient in a city where many service workers do not speak English.

Keywords: [tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md), [navigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navigation.md), [kanji](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kanji.md), [translation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/translation.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), [taxi drivers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxi-drivers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Mickey Curry Art Opening, Energy Reporters, and Russia-China Oil Deals (13:57–17:03)

Adam Curry recaps an art gallery opening for Mickey Curry in Tokyo, attended by representatives from the Dutch Embassy. He recounts a conversation with a financial energy reporter regarding the South Stream pipeline, the Nicaragua Canal, and the long-negotiated Russia-China oil deal. The reporter provides insight into China's demand for 30% resource ownership in energy participation deals.

Keywords: [mickey curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-curry.md), dutch embassy, [south stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-stream.md), [nicaragua canal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicaragua-canal.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Shinzo Abe, Japanese Militarization, and Jake Adelstein Sex Strike Report (17:03–20:45)

The hosts discuss Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's efforts to revise Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution to allow for a more active military and arms exports. Adam references a Daily Beast article by Jake Adelstein regarding a "sex strike" by Japanese women protesting militarization. Adelstein, an expert on the Yakuza, is noted for his deep ties to the Japanese underworld.

Keywords: [shinzo abe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shinzo-abe.md), [japanese constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japanese-constitution.md), jake adelstein, [daily beast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-beast.md), [yakuza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yakuza.md), [sex strike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sex-strike.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Japanese Schoolgirls, Tipping Culture, and Water-Saving Toilets (20:45–24:58)

Adam Curry describes the fashion of Japanese schoolgirls in Harajuku and the lack of a tipping culture in Japan, which he finds beneficial given the current exchange rate of the Yen. He praises Japanese resource management, specifically highlighting a toilet design where the tank lid functions as a sink to reuse hand-washing water for the next flush.

Keywords: harajuku, [schoolgirls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schoolgirls.md), [tipping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tipping.md), [yen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yen.md), resource management, [toilets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toilets.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Japanese Safety Helmets vs. American Hard Hats (24:59–29:14)

A debate ensues regarding the design of Japanese safety helmets compared to American hard hats. Adam Curry argues that the Japanese versions have a distinct, high-gloss, short-brimmed aesthetic, while John C. Dvorak insists they are functionally identical to standard construction gear found in the Uline catalog.

Keywords: hard hats, safety helmets, uline, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), construction gear

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Tokyo Hospitality, Superstitions, and Uni Consumption (29:15–34:17)

Adam describes being hosted by Sir Mark and Dame Astrid in Tokyo, including a ride in a luxury car featuring live Sumo wrestling on TV. He recounts a visit to a restaurant where a watermelon and piles of salt were placed at the entrance to ward off evil spirits. The segment concludes with a discussion on eating high-quality uni (sea urchin) and giant asparagus.

Keywords: [sumo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sumo.md), watermelons, [salt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salt.md), evil spirits, uni, sea urchin

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/8.md)

### 9. International Travel Comparisons and TSA PreCheck Frustrations (34:18–38:46)

Adam compares the welcoming, efficient customs process in Japan to the "police state" atmosphere of American airports. He details a recent experience at the Austin airport where the TSA PreCheck line was slower than the regular line. Despite Mickey Curry often being flagged during re-entry to the US, she was randomly granted PreCheck while Adam was forced into a standard security screening.

Keywords: [customs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customs.md), [biometrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biometrics.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [precheck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/precheck.md), [austin airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-airport.md), [police state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-state.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/9.md)

### 10. TSA Administrator John Pistole on Managed Inclusion and Randomization (38:47–44:30)

The hosts analyze clips of TSA Administrator John Pistole discussing "managed inclusion," where non-enrolled passengers are given "free samples" of PreCheck to speed up lines. Adam criticizes the logic of granting expedited screening to unvetted passengers while subjecting enrolled citizens to random full-body scans. They argue the system is more about security theater than actual safety.

Keywords: [john pistole](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-pistole.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), managed inclusion, [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), [precheck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/precheck.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Underwear Bomber Simulation and Public Intervention (44:30–47:22)

Adam plays a clip of John Pistole showing an FBI simulation of what the "underwear bomber's" device would have done to an aircraft. The hosts point out that the actual 2009 attempt failed due to the device malfunctioning and the intervention of passengers, rather than government security measures. They argue the TSA uses these simulations to maintain a climate of fear.

Keywords: abdel muttallib, [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [ied](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ied.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Cyber Theft, and Corporate Secrets (47:22–55:17)

The hosts critique a congressional hearing featuring Senator Sheldon Whitehouse regarding Chinese cyber theft of American trade secrets. Adam questions why the government is tasked with protecting private corporate data and suggests that truly sensitive information, like the Coca-Cola formula, should be kept off the internet entirely. They argue the "cyber threat" narrative is a "money bonanza" for government contractors.

Keywords: [sheldon whitehouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheldon-whitehouse.md), cyber theft, [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [intellectual property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md), [coca-cola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coca-cola.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Michael Chertoff, Internet of Things, and Smart Refrigerator Scams (55:17–1:00:38)

Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff is heard warning about the security risks of the "Internet of Things," including hacked pacemakers and thermostats. The hosts dismiss these fears as a marketing ploy to sell consulting services. They argue that "smart" appliances are actually designed to deliver advertising and track consumer behavior rather than provide utility.

Keywords: [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [internet of things](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-of-things.md), [black hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md), [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/13.md)

### 14. No Agenda Episode 616 Art and Mac OS Full Screen Mode (1:00:38–1:05:32)

The hosts discuss the artwork for the previous episode, which parodied the "Bring Back Our Girls" campaign. Adam then complains about a technical issue with the latest Mac OS, where apps stuck in "full screen mode" are difficult to navigate. They lament the loss of Steve Jobs' vision, suggesting the current interface design is "idiotic."

Keywords: cosmo, [boko haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [mac os](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-os.md), full screen mode, [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Executive Producer Donations and the "Stonation" Meme (1:05:33–1:09:23)

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors, including Sir Andrew Largeman and Ryan Merritt. They highlight a new donation tier of $420.33, dubbed the "Stonation" by listener Spencer Pearson. Several donors request a specific Charlie Rose clip about "biodiversity" and "DNA," leading the hosts to discuss the strange "random number theory" of multiple people requesting the same clip.

Keywords: andrew largeman, ryan merritt, [spencer pearson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spencer-pearson.md), [stonation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stonation.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Donor Acknowledgments and No Agenda PR (1:09:24–1:14:12)

Adam and John continue thanking donors, including Just Diane and Sir Dennis Cruz. They discuss a detailed note from a donor regarding the history of "sensimilla" and seedless marijuana. The segment ends with a promotion for the No Agenda BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) channel and a reminder of the show's "Value for Value" model.

Keywords: eldridge iowa, [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), sensimilla, [blackberry messenger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackberry-messenger.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/16.md)

### 17. RT News Interruption and Emergency Alert System Test (1:14:13–1:16:50)

Adam plays a clip from RT News regarding Palestinian settlers that is abruptly interrupted by a loud, digital Emergency Alert System (EAS) test. The hosts mock the timing and the low-quality digital artifacts of the local cable station's test.

Keywords: [rt news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt-news.md), [palestine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palestine.md), [emergency alert system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-alert-system.md), digital signal

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Boko Haram Video Forensics and the "Nigerian Scam" Theory (1:16:53–1:21:23)

The hosts analyze the 17-minute video released by Boko Haram showing the kidnapped schoolgirls. They feature a BBC report from a video forensics specialist who notes the sophisticated post-production, multiple camera angles, and use of backdrops. Adam suggests the entire event may be an elaborate "Nigerian scam" or hoax, noting that only four girls have been identified by parents.

Keywords: [boko haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [video forensics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-forensics.md), [green screen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-screen.md), hostage video

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/18.md)

### 19. US Drones in Nigeria and African Naming Customs (1:21:23–1:24:36)

Adam reports on the deployment of a US Global Hawk drone to Nigeria to search for the missing girls, expressing skepticism about the drone's true purpose. He also shares an email from a South African listener regarding unique naming customs in tribal cultures, where names like "Goodluck," "Beauty," and even "Cell Phone" are common.

Keywords: [global hawk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-hawk.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [goodluck jonathan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goodluck-jonathan.md), naming customs

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Ronan Farrow and the Pentagon Zombie Apocalypse Plan (1:24:38–1:28:12)

The hosts mock MSNBC host Ronan Farrow for his delivery and for reporting on a "zombie apocalypse" training document. They point out that the "zombie" meme is several years old and question why Farrow is given a platform despite what they perceive as a lack of broadcasting skill.

Keywords: [ronan farrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronan-farrow.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [zombies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zombies.md), conplan 8888

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/20.md)

### 21. CONPLAN 8888, Tunisia, and Nigeria Training Scenarios (1:28:12–1:33:32)

Adam digs deeper into the Pentagon's "CONPLAN 8888" zombie document from 2011. He highlights a disclaimer stating that the "zombie" scenario was used to avoid the political fallout of using real-world locations like Tunisia or Nigeria for training. The hosts find it suspicious that Nigeria was specifically mentioned as a training scenario years before the current Boko Haram crisis.

Keywords: conplan 8888, usstratcom, [tunisia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tunisia.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [arab spring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arab-spring.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/21.md)

### 22. MSNBC Audience Demographics and Linzess Advertisements (1:33:32–1:36:34)

John C. Dvorak analyzes the target audience of MSNBC by examining its commercials. He plays an ad for Linzess, a medication for chronic constipation, concluding that the typical MSNBC viewer is likely elderly and suffering from digestive issues.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md), linzess, [constipation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constipation.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Chris Matthews, Hillary Clinton, and Brain Damage Rumors (1:36:34–1:38:59)

The hosts play a clip of Chris Matthews defending Hillary Clinton against rumors started by Karl Rove regarding her health and potential "brain damage" from a previous concussion. They discuss the media narrative surrounding Clinton's fitness for office and her past political maneuvers in New York.

Keywords: [chris matthews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-matthews.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [karl rove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karl-rove.md), [concussion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concussion.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Eleanor Clift, Benghazi, and the "Botched Kidnapping" Theory (1:39:00–1:43:12)

Eleanor Clift is heard on the McLaughlin Group claiming that Ambassador Christopher Stevens died of smoke inhalation rather than being murdered. The hosts strongly disagree, reiterating their theory that Benghazi was a botched kidnapping attempt intended to be an "October Surprise" for the 2012 election, complicated by CIA weapons smuggling to Syria.

Keywords: [eleanor clift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eleanor-clift.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [christopher stevens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christopher-stevens.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [october surprise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/october-surprise.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Bill Maher and the Benghazi Video Narrative (1:43:12–1:45:27)

The hosts play a clip of Bill Maher arguing with a guest about whether the "Innocence of Muslims" YouTube video was the primary cause of the Benghazi attack. They criticize Maher for sticking to a "debunked" State Department talking point and ignore the lack of "stand down" order discussions in mainstream media.

Keywords: [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [innocence of muslims](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/innocence-of-muslims.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Laurent Fabius, Syrian Chemical Weapons, and Rewriting History (1:45:28–1:48:16)

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius is heard claiming that the Syrian regime used chemical weapons on 14 occasions. The hosts reference investigative reports by Seymour Hersh suggesting the rebels, not the government, were responsible for the gas attacks. They accuse Fabius of attempting to "rewrite history" to justify military intervention that failed to materialize in 2013.

Keywords: laurent fabius, [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md), [seymour hersh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seymour-hersh.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Climate Chaos, 500-Day Deadlines, and 2100-Degree Errors (1:48:16–1:51:29)

Laurent Fabius introduces the term "climate chaos" and sets a 500-day deadline to avoid disaster. The hosts also mock a KTVU news report that erroneously claimed temperatures could rise by "2100 degrees" due to a teleprompter misread of the year 2100.

Keywords: climate chaos, laurent fabius, [ktvu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ktvu.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [national climate assessment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-climate-assessment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Antarctic Ice Sheet and the "Unstoppable" Melting Narrative (1:51:29–1:54:48)

The hosts discuss a NASA-participated report claiming the melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is "unstoppable." They point out that the "rapid" sea level rise predicted would actually take 200 to 500 years, comparing the alarmist media coverage to Michael Crichton's novel "State of Fear."

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [antarctica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antarctica.md), [sea level rise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level-rise.md), west antarctic ice sheet, [michael crichton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-crichton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Marco Rubio and the National Press Club Climate Hysteria (1:54:51–1:58:03)

During a speech on retirement systems at the National Press Club, Senator Marco Rubio is repeatedly questioned about climate change instead of his actual topic. The hosts use this as an example of "mass hysteria" in the press corps, where every Republican candidate is subjected to a "litany" of climate-related questions to make them appear anti-science.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [national press club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-press-club.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [retirement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retirement.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/29.md)

### 30. FCC Open Internet Rules and the Net Neutrality Narrative (1:58:04–2:02:34)

Adam Curry breaks down the FCC's new "Open Internet" rulemaking proposal. He criticizes the shift in terminology from "Net Neutrality" to "Open Internet" and argues that the public is being misled by simplistic analogies. He suggests the ultimate goal of these regulations is to enable metered billing for broadband providers.

Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [open internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-internet.md), [tom wheeler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-wheeler.md), [title ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/title-ii.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Net Neutrality Analogies and the "Fast Lane" Misconception (2:02:36–2:08:33)

The hosts play and critique a "condescending" video explaining Net Neutrality using road and pipe analogies. Adam argues that no ISP is actually asking to "remove" Net Neutrality because it isn't a formal law, and that the "fast lane" debate was actually sparked by Netflix seeking specific peering advantages, not by ISPs wanting to "speed bump" the web.

Keywords: [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [isp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isp.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), fast lanes, speed bumps

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Electricity Analogies and Tim Wu's Original Thesis (2:08:33–2:13:29)

Adam continues to dismantle Net Neutrality arguments, specifically the comparison to electricity utilities. He notes that electricity is a metered service, which is exactly what ISPs want for the internet. He references Tim Wu, the creator of the term "Net Neutrality," noting that Wu's original thesis acknowledged that metered service is the only way to truly manage finite bandwidth resources.

Keywords: [electricity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electricity.md), metered service, [tim wu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-wu.md), democratization, [bandwidth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bandwidth.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Verizon vs. FCC and the Commercial Reasonableness Standard (2:13:30–2:17:34)

The hosts discuss the legal fallout of the Verizon vs. FCC court decision. Adam explains the difference between regulating the internet under Section 706 versus Title II. He notes the FCC's proposal to create an "ombudsperson" to resolve disputes and the introduction of a "commercial reasonableness" standard for traffic management.

Keywords: [verizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verizon.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [section 706](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-706.md), [title ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/title-ii.md), ombudsperson

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Comcast CEO Brian Roberts on Paid Prioritization (2:17:34–2:21:46)

Clips of Comcast CEO Brian Roberts speaking to investors are played. Roberts argues that even under Title II, carriers have always been allowed to offer different service levels for different prices. Adam uses this to counter the narrative pushed by tech pundits like Leo Laporte, arguing that regulation will actually cement the ISPs' ability to charge more for higher tiers.

Keywords: [brian roberts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-roberts.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [paid prioritization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paid-prioritization.md), [title ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/title-ii.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/34.md)

### 35. The Interconnection Market and Netflix's Cost-Shifting (2:21:48–2:28:39)

Brian Roberts explains the "interconnection market," noting that transit pricing has dropped 99% in 15 years. He argues that Netflix CEO Reed Hastings is seeking "free transit" for a third of all internet traffic, which would shift costs onto non-Netflix users. Adam agrees with Roberts, stating that Netflix is essentially trying to get a government-mandated subsidy for its high-bandwidth delivery.

Keywords: interconnection, [peering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peering.md), [transit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transit.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [reed hastings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reed-hastings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Comcast's Five-Year Plan for Usage-Based Billing (2:28:40–2:31:30)

In a forward-looking statement, Brian Roberts predicts that Comcast will have a "usage-based billing model" rolled out across its entire footprint within five years. He describes pilot programs where users get a base "bucket" of data (e.g., 300GB) and pay for additional increments. Adam highlights this as the "smoking gun" of what the Net Neutrality debate is actually facilitating.

Keywords: usage-based billing, [metered internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metered-internet.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [data caps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-caps.md), [pilots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Netflix's Net Neutrality Scheme and the End of "Free" Distribution (2:31:31–2:37:45)

The hosts conclude that the Net Neutrality movement is a scheme by Netflix to avoid paying for its massive infrastructure footprint. They warn that independent content creators and networks like TWiT will eventually face higher costs as "free" peering agreements disappear and government-regulated metered billing becomes the industry standard.

Keywords: [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [reed hastings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reed-hastings.md), cash fly, [twit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twit.md), [metered internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metered-internet.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Leo Laporte, Podcast Patents, and "Company Man" Etiquette (2:37:48–2:43:42)

Adam and John discuss Adam's recent appearance on Leo Laporte's show. They touch on the "podcast patent" legal battle, with Adam explaining that he stayed quiet on the topic out of respect for Lisa Laporte's request not to discuss ongoing litigation. They also speculate on the financial pressure TWiT may face from rising bandwidth costs.

Keywords: [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [twit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twit.md), [podcast patent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-patent.md), lisa laporte, cash fly

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Donor Thank-Yous, Rain Sticks, and Japanese Whiskey (2:43:43–2:49:01)

Adam Curry uses a "rain stick" to bless a donor's garden in Roanoke, Virginia. He mentions drinking Hibiki 17-year-old Suntory whiskey provided by his hosts in Tokyo. The hosts continue to read through the list of Executive Producers and Associate Executive Producers, thanking them for their financial support.

Keywords: [roanoke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roanoke.md), [rain stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rain-stick.md), hibiki, suntory, [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Global Donor List and Jobs Karma (2:49:01–2:53:48)

The hosts acknowledge donors from London, Sweden, Russia, and across the US. Adam grants "Jobs Karma" to the nation, referencing a statistic about 800,000 people "disappearing" from unemployment rolls. They also thank FrolNet for their continued technical and financial support of the show's infrastructure.

Keywords: [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), frolnet

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Listener Sanity and Architectural Influence (2:53:49–2:57:46)

Adam discusses how the show provides "sanity" for listeners who feel overwhelmed by mainstream media memes. He mentions that his hosts in Tokyo, renowned architects Mark Dytham and Astrid Klein, find the show influential in maintaining their perspective while working on major projects like the Daikanyama T-Site.

Keywords: [sanity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanity.md), [architecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/architecture.md), [mark dytham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-dytham.md), [astrid klein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/astrid-klein.md), superdeluxe

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Movie Promotion Memes and the "Pecker" Guessing Game (2:57:46–3:02:36)

John C. Dvorak posits that the current media obsession with "killer robots" is actually a viral marketing campaign for the new X-Men and Transformers movies. He then plays a clip from a movie for Adam to guess; the movie is revealed to be John Waters' "Pecker." Adam recounts his poor movie-watching experiences on the flight to Japan.

Keywords: [x-men](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x-men.md), [transformers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transformers.md), [mark wahlberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-wahlberg.md), [pecker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pecker.md), [john waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-waters.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Michael Hayden on Metadata and WTC 7 C-SPAN Caller (3:02:37–3:06:52)

The hosts play a clip of former NSA Director Michael Hayden admitting, "We kill people based on metadata." They also feature a C-SPAN clip where a caller tries to ask about World Trade Center Building 7 before being cut off by the host. The segment ends with a brief mention of the Eurovision winner, Conchita Wurst.

Keywords: [michael hayden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-hayden.md), [metadata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metadata.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [building 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/building-7.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/43.md)

### 44. UK Tax Seizures and Professor Stephen Cohen on Russia (3:06:52–3:10:13)

Adam briefly mentions a new UK policy allowing the government to seize unpaid taxes directly from bank accounts. He teases upcoming clips of Professor Stephen Cohen discussing Russia and John Miller discussing Al-Qaeda for the Sunday show.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [hmrc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hmrc.md), [stephen cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-cohen.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Tokyo 50/50 Party and Show Outro (3:10:14–3:14:51)

Adam Curry promotes the "50/50" party at SuperDeluxe in Tokyo, featuring the 5678s (the band from Kill Bill) and Adam himself as "DJ Toretto." The hosts sign off, reminding listeners of the Sunday show and the "Value for Value" model, followed by a humorous Joe Biden clip.

Keywords: [tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md), 5678s, [kill bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kill-bill.md), superdeluxe, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/617-climate-chaos-2/chapter/45.md)

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