# Pilots of Terror

> Mainstream media obsession with missing flight MH370 masks a shifting global order as the FBI triggers its latest domestic terror arrest cycle and Ukraine faces a Russian gas station.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 601
- **Published:** 2014-03-20
- **Length:** 2h 59m
- **Topics:** [MH370](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh370.md), Crimea Crisis, NSA Surveillance, [ICANN](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icann.md), FBI Stings, [Google Glass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-glass.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror

## About this episode

CNN and major networks face mounting criticism for exploiting the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 tragedy to drive record-breaking primetime ratings. While anchor Don Lemon explores fringe social media theories involving black holes, former NTSB Chair James Hall suggests the aircraft may have been diverted via remote-controlled cyber warfare. Meanwhile, Israeli security officials have placed Tel Aviv on high alert, fearing the missing Boeing 777 could be utilized as a guided missile against high-rise targets.

Geopolitical tensions escalate as Senator John McCain labels Russia a gas station masquerading as a country following the annexation of Crimea. At the Center for Strategic and International Studies, veteran diplomat Zbigniew Brzezinski outlined an escalation ladder for Ukraine that includes providing lethal military equipment to counter Vladimir Putin. Simultaneously, the FBI continues its six-week terror arrest cycle with the apprehension of Nicholas Michael Toussaint, a National Guard washout allegedly lured into a Los Angeles subway plot by undercover agents.

Technical revelations from the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board hearing confirm the NSA uses abouts collection to intercept American communications that merely mention foreign targets. In a lighter moment, the hosts recount a cringeworthy encounter with a Google Glass user in Austin and perform a formal knighting ceremony for David Varney and Elliot Gardner. The program concludes with a look at the Budweiser born-on date marketing origin story and the rise of the hall monitor syndrome in local American bureaucracy.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/transcript.md.

### 1. Media Obsession, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Coverage (0:00–1:32)

The news media has shifted focus entirely to the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, creating what is described as a "debris field" of information. CNN and other networks have seen a significant ratings boost from the continuous coverage, leading to criticism that the tragedy is being exploited for viewership.

Keywords: [malaysia airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaysia-airlines.md), [mh370](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mh370.md), [news ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/news-ratings.md), [debris field](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debris-field.md), [am radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/am-radio.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Adware Attacks, Browser Performance Issues (1:33–3:22)

Technical difficulties with browser speed and DNS settings lead to a discussion on adware attacks. A specific type of malware, referred to as "Highlighty," inserts double-underlined links into web pages that trigger advertisements when moused over by the user.

Keywords: [dns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dns.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), adware, [firefox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefox.md), [google search](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-search.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/2.md)

### 3. CNN Ratings, Black Hole Theories (3:23–6:08)

CNN's primetime ratings have doubled due to its aviation-themed coverage of the missing Malaysian aircraft. Anchor Don Lemon is highlighted for discussing fringe theories from social media, including the possibility that a black hole or the "Bermuda Triangle" was involved in the plane's disappearance.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), black holes, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Israel Security Concerns, MH370 Terror Threat (6:09–9:16)

Israeli security officials expressed concern that the missing MH370 aircraft could be used as a missile to strike high-rise towers in Tel Aviv. Additional reports from the Netherlands suggest emergency personnel are on high alert during a nuclear summit in The Hague, fearing the plane could be used in a terrorist attack against the conference.

Keywords: [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [tel aviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tel-aviv.md), [nuclear summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-summit.md), [the hague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-hague.md), air crew

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/4.md)

### 5. James Hall, Remote Control Aircraft Claims (9:17–10:48)

Former NTSB Chair James Hall appeared on news programs suggesting that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 may have been subject to cyber warfare. Hall questioned whether the aircraft was being remotely controlled, drawing comparisons to theories regarding the September 11 attacks.

Keywords: james hall, [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [cyber warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-warfare.md), [remote control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remote-control.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Howie Mandel, Public Humiliation Game Shows (10:50–14:13)

A segment on Jimmy Kimmel Live featuring Howie Mandel highlights a new hidden camera game show where celebrities convince ordinary people to perform humiliating acts for money. The premise involves participants wearing earpieces in restaurants and following instructions that disrupt their personal relationships for a $5,000 prize.

Keywords: [howie mandel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howie-mandel.md), [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md), game shows, hidden camera, public humiliation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Ukraine Crisis Strategy (14:13–18:38)

Foreign policy veteran Zbigniew Brzezinski addressed the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) regarding the crisis in Ukraine. The discussion centers on the failure of the State Department to anticipate the Russian annexation of Crimea and the potential for further instability in Georgia and Azerbaijan.

Keywords: [zbigniew brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zbigniew-brzezinski.md), [csis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csis.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [cold war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cold-war.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Brzezinski Escalation Ladder, European Instability (18:39–21:49)

Zbigniew Brzezinski outlines a menu of escalation options for the U.S. in Ukraine, ranging from intelligence support to providing lethal military equipment and air cover. He warns that a lack of American commitment could lead to "sudden explosions" of conflict in places like Riga, Latvia, which has a large ethnic Russian population.

Keywords: [zbigniew brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zbigniew-brzezinski.md), [riga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/riga.md), [latvia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/latvia.md), lethal equipment, [escalation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/escalation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/8.md)

### 9. John McCain, Russian Gas Station Analogy (21:49–26:25)

Senator John McCain called for a fundamental reassessment of the U.S. relationship with Vladimir Putin, famously describing Russia as "a gas station masquerading as a country." McCain advocated for strict economic sanctions against Russian kleptocrats and the resumption of missile defense systems in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Keywords: [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [economic sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-sanctions.md), gas station, [missile defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missile-defense.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Jen Psaki, Simferopol Shooting Allegations (26:25–29:16)

State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki faced questioning during a press briefing regarding a tweet she sent claiming Russia "shot first" during an incident at a Ukrainian base in Simferopol. Reporters challenged the clarity of her information, noting conflicting reports about who initiated the violence in Crimea.

Keywords: [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [simferopol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/simferopol.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/10.md)

### 11. US Intelligence Failure, Kiev Revolution (29:17–31:44)

Foreign policy experts at a CSIS meeting, including Brent Scowcroft, admitted the United States was caught off guard by the speed of the Ukrainian revolution and the subsequent loss of Crimea. Critics argue the State Department was too focused on installing a new government in Kiev to notice Russian military preparations.

Keywords: [kiev](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kiev.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [csis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csis.md), [brent scowcroft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brent-scowcroft.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Liz Wall, The View Appearance (31:45–34:21)

Former RT anchor Liz Wall appeared on The View to discuss her on-air resignation, describing the network as a "propaganda machine." During the interview, Barbara Walters made a controversial comparison between Wall's professional situation and an abusive domestic relationship.

Keywords: [liz wall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liz-wall.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [barbara walters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-walters.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Foreign Policy Initiative, Liz Wall Resignation Setup (34:22–37:07)

Evidence suggests the resignation of RT anchor Liz Wall was a coordinated event involving the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI). FPI's Twitter account predicted "something big" would happen at RT minutes before the resignation, and board member James Kirchick published an exclusive interview with Wall immediately following the event.

Keywords: fpi, [james kirchick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-kirchick.md), [robert kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kagan.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [liz wall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liz-wall.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/13.md)

### 14. The Blaze, Russia Today Media Comparison (37:08–39:42)

A comparison is drawn between the presentation styles of Glenn Beck's "The Blaze" and "Russia Today" (RT). The discussion focuses on how both networks use specific visual formulas and "financial babes" to attract viewers while pushing opposing geopolitical agendas.

Keywords: [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [the blaze](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-blaze.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [media ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-ratings.md), [financial news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Economic Terrorism, 2008 Market Crash Claims (39:43–42:04)

A report from Glenn Beck's "For the Record" features a naval officer claiming that the 2008 financial crisis was the result of "economic terrorist attacks" launched by China and Russia. The report cites an independent forensic investigation conducted by a military contractor.

Keywords: [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), economic terrorism, 2008 crash, [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Sean Hannity, American Way Intro (42:06–44:37)

The new intro for The Sean Hannity Show is criticized for its aggressive tone, featuring the lyric "we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way." The segment explores how this branding reflects a "bully" mentality in American foreign policy and media.

Keywords: [sean hannity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-hannity.md), [talk radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/talk-radio.md), [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md), [bullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bullying.md), intro

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Barack Obama, NCAA Brackets and Hillbots (44:37–47:01)

President Barack Obama's annual tradition of filling out NCAA basketball brackets on ESPN is contrasted with the ongoing international crisis in Ukraine. Meanwhile, supporters are already shifting focus to a potential Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign, referred to as "Hillbots."

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [ncaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ncaa.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md), [espn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espn.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Jay Carney, Putin Sanctions List (47:02–51:00)

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney struggled to explain why Vladimir Putin was not included on the initial list of sanctioned Russian individuals. A review of the executive order reveals broad language that could potentially apply to any person "contributing to the situation in Ukraine," including Americans.

Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/18.md)

### 19. White House Briefing, Scripted Questions (51:01–52:40)

A local CBS reporter's behind-the-scenes look at White House briefings reveals that many questions are provided to Press Secretary Jay Carney in advance. In some instances, reporters already have the printed answers in front of them before the briefing begins, suggesting a highly choreographed media environment.

Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [press briefing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-briefing.md), [west wing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-wing.md), [scripted news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scripted-news.md), [reporters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reporters.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Russian State TV, Radioactive Dust Threat (52:42–55:44)

Russian television anchor Dmitry Kisilev sparked controversy by posing in front of a mushroom cloud and stating Russia could turn the U.S. into "radioactive dust." This state-controlled messaging is compared to American network news segments that use air raid sirens and nuclear imagery to stoke fear.

Keywords: dmitry kisilev, mushroom cloud, radioactive dust, [state media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-media.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Artist Talk, Public Indoctrination (55:45–58:02)

An anecdote from an "artist talk" event describes how middle-aged attendees expressed deep-seated fear and hatred of Vladimir Putin. The observation suggests that both Russian and American publics are being successfully indoctrinated by their respective state-aligned media outlets.

Keywords: artist talk, [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [public opinion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-opinion.md), [brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Value for Value Model, Show Introduction (58:03–59:36)

The hosts officially open the main segment of the show, reiterating the "value for value" model. This system relies on listener donations rather than commercial advertisements to maintain a free-flowing conversation without corporate interference.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [media assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassination.md), [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Executive Producer Donations, Philippine Vinke Ringtone (59:38–1:02:55)

Executive Producer Philippine Vinke from Holland contributed $471.10 and requested a personalized ringtone featuring a George Clooney clip. The hosts attempt to record the custom audio, which includes a shout-out and a "you've got karma" sign-off.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [ringtone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ringtone.md), [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md), [holland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holland.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Knighting Ceremony, David Varney and Elliot Gardner (1:02:55–1:04:39)

David Varney and Elliot Gardner are recognized for their significant financial contributions to the show. John DiMaggio also joins as an associate executive producer, expressing his newfound skepticism of mainstream media and big business.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), david varney, elliot gardner, john dimaggio, [producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Budweiser Born-On Date, Marketing Origins (1:04:39–1:07:32)

A host reveals their personal involvement in creating the "born-on date" marketing campaign for Budweiser in the mid-1990s. Originally developed as a website widget to track barcodes back to the assembly line, the concept was so successful that Anheuser-Busch began printing the dates directly on cans and bottles.

Keywords: [budweiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budweiser.md), born-on date, [anheuser-busch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anheuser-busch.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), barcode

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Producer Credits, Merchant Services Donation (1:07:33–1:11:09)

Scott Blair of Houston, Texas, offers a recurring donation based on his merchant services commissions. The hosts discuss how listeners use their "Executive Producer" credits on IMDB and LinkedIn to display their support for the program.

Keywords: scott blair, [imdb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imdb.md), merchant services, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credits.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/26.md)

### 27. FBI Six-Week Cycle, Terror Plot Patterns (1:11:11–1:12:46)

The "six-week cycle" theory posits that the FBI announces the thwarting of a terror attack roughly every six weeks to justify its budget. These cases often involve "patsies" who have been goaded by undercover agents into participating in staged plots.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [six-week cycle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/six-week-cycle.md), [terror plot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terror-plot.md), [patsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patsy.md), budget justification

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Nicholas Michael Toussaint, Stockton Terror Arrest (1:12:47–1:15:54)

Nicholas Michael Toussaint, a 20-year-old community college student and National Guard washout, was arrested near the Canadian border on terror charges. Toussaint was allegedly lured by undercover FBI agents into a plot involving the Los Angeles subway system after posting extremist messages on social media.

Keywords: nicholas michael toussaint, [stockton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stockton.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Toussaint Media Coverage, See Something Say Something (1:15:54–1:19:55)

Media reports on the Toussaint arrest emphasize the "see something, say something" mantra. The coverage features YouTube clips of Toussaint and highlights his desire to be on the FBI's Most Wanted list, which critics argue points to his status as a mentally unstable individual rather than a sophisticated threat.

Keywords: nicholas michael toussaint, [lapd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lapd.md), [see something say something](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/see-something-say-something.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [patsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patsy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, C-SPAN Hearing (1:19:56–1:22:42)

The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB) held a hearing on C-SPAN regarding government surveillance. The board, composed primarily of lawyers and former government officials, discussed the legal definitions and technical implementations of NSA data collection programs.

Keywords: [pclob](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pclob.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [david medin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-medin.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), james x dempsey

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/30.md)

### 31. NSA Definitions, Selectors and Targeting (1:22:44–1:24:53)

During the PCLOB hearing, officials defined key surveillance terms such as "selector" (an email address or phone number) and "targeting" (the act of collecting information from a specific account). The government maintains that targeting is restricted to non-U.S. persons located overseas.

Keywords: [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), selector, [targeting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/targeting.md), tasking, foreign intelligence

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Upstream Collection, Tasking and Directives (1:24:54–1:27:17)

The hearing addressed "upstream collection," where data is tapped directly from internet and phone cables. "Tasking" refers to the specific request to collect data from a selector, while "directives" are the legal orders sent to service providers like Google and Yahoo to compel their cooperation.

Keywords: upstream collection, [metadata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metadata.md), [fiber optics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiber-optics.md), directives, 702

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/32.md)

### 33. PCLOB Hearing Atmosphere, Marriott Logistics (1:27:18–1:28:51)

The physical setting of the PCLOB hearing is described as a typical, uninspiring Marriott conference room. The hosts mock the low-budget nature of the event, noting the "skirted tables," bowls of peppermints, and poor-quality microphones used by the high-level government board.

Keywords: [pclob](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pclob.md), [marriott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marriott.md), hearing, [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md), [logistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Abouts Collection, Surveillance Loophole (1:28:51–1:33:04)

A significant revelation from the PCLOB hearing involves "abouts collection," which allows the NSA to intercept communications that merely mention a targeted selector. This means if two Americans discuss a targeted foreign email address, their entire conversation can be legally intercepted in real-time.

Keywords: abouts collection, [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [email](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/email.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Silicon Valley Cooperation, Section 702 Knowledge (1:33:05–1:37:51)

James X. Dempsey of the PCLOB confirmed that all service providers involved in Section 702 collection have full knowledge of the program. Despite public denials regarding "Prism," tech companies receive compulsory legal directives and are unable to implement end-to-end encryption without destroying their advertising-based business models.

Keywords: [section 702](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-702.md), [prism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prism.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Media Sampling, CNN and Fox Commercials (1:37:52–1:40:26)

A brief live monitoring of CNN and Fox News reveals a divergence in their commercial break timing. The hosts use this to illustrate the "media malaise" and the constant cycle of aviation-related "breaking news" that dominates the current television landscape.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [commercials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commercials.md), live monitoring, media malaise

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/36.md)

### 37. ICANN Transition, Internet Privatization History (1:40:27–1:43:30)

The U.S. government is initiating a transition to privatize the management of the Internet's domain name system (ICANN). This move follows a 1997 directive from President Clinton to move toward a multi-stakeholder model, though critics worry about the potential for international governmental bodies to gain control.

Keywords: [icann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icann.md), [dns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dns.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [privatization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privatization.md), [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/37.md)

### 38. ICANN FAQ, VeriSign and Legacy Domains (1:43:32–1:46:06)

Official ICANN documents clarify that legacy top-level domains like .gov, .mil, and .edu will remain under U.S. government control despite the transition. Furthermore, VeriSign's agreement to operate the .com registry will not be impacted, ensuring the commercial side of the DNS remains stable.

Keywords: [icann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icann.md), verisign, .com, .gov, .edu

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Internet Governance Forum, UN Article 19 (1:46:08–1:48:43)

The Internet Governance Forum (IGF) is being positioned as a platform for global internet oversight, citing Article 19 of the UN Declaration of Human Rights. There is concern that this "multi-stakeholder" model will allow large tech corporations like Google to dictate the rules of online speech under the guise of international cooperation.

Keywords: igf, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), internet governance, [vint cerf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vint-cerf.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Vint Cerf, Tunis Agenda for Information Society (1:48:43–1:53:08)

Vint Cerf, a "father of the internet" now at Google, is a key figure in the Tunis Agenda for the Information Society. The agenda promotes a "people-centered" and "non-discriminatory" information society, which critics interpret as a framework for global censorship and corporate control over the network.

Keywords: [vint cerf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vint-cerf.md), tunis agenda, [geneva](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geneva.md), internet governance, [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Syrian Embassy Closure, John Kerry and Asshat (1:53:08–1:56:31)

The Obama administration suspended the Syrian embassy in Washington and expelled its diplomats. Secretary of State John Kerry stated the Assad regime has lost all legitimacy, though a host notes a recurring verbal slip where the name "Assad" sounds like "asshat" in official briefings.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [embassy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/embassy.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Edward Snowden, TED Conference Robot (1:56:33–2:00:21)

Edward Snowden appeared at the TED conference in Vancouver via a telepresence robot. His speech, which focused on the idea that "democracy may die behind closed doors," was criticized for being nonsensical and marking a "shark jump" in his public persona.

Keywords: [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [ted conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-conference.md), [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [robot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robot.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Fadi Chehadé, ICANN Leadership Profile (2:00:22–2:02:16)

Fadi Chehadé, the head of ICANN, is profiled as a consensus builder with triple citizenship in Egypt, Lebanon, and the U.S. His background in cloud-based software for educational institutions is noted as he leads the transition of internet governance away from sole U.S. oversight.

Keywords: fadi chehadé, [icann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icann.md), [egypt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/egypt.md), [lebanon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lebanon.md), internet governance

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Google Glass, Glasshole Encounter in Austin (2:02:16–2:03:45)

A host recounts an encounter with a "glasshole"—a person wearing Google Glass—at a diner in Austin. The device is described as looking like a physical disability, and the wearer's presence sparked a discussion about the social awkwardness and "douchey" nature of the wearable technology.

Keywords: [google glass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-glass.md), glasshole, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), diner 24, [wearable tech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wearable-tech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Donation Policy, Kevin McCarthy Birthday (2:03:47–2:05:56)

The hosts clarify their policy on reading donation notes, explaining that only Executive Producers are guaranteed a verbatim reading. A specific donation is highlighted as a 30th birthday gift for future knight Kevin McCarthy, whose girlfriend Kimberly reportedly questioned the show's accuracy.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [kevin mccarthy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-mccarthy.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [club 33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/club-33.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Code Compliance Force, Hall Monitor Syndrome (2:05:57–2:08:13)

A discussion on local bureaucracy in Austin focuses on the "Code Compliance Force," which uses uniforms and badges to enforce city ordinances. This is linked to a broader "hall monitor syndrome" in America, where even small towns feel the need for SWAT teams and aggressive enforcement.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), code compliance, [swat teams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swat-teams.md), hall monitor, [bureaucracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureaucracy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/46.md)

### 47. International Producers, Job Karma Requests (2:08:13–2:11:41)

Producers from Germany, Norway, and Australia are recognized for their contributions. Several donors, including Hans Hofner in Berlin, request "job karma" as they navigate new career opportunities in the acting and music industries.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Associate Executive Producers, Show Note Appreciation (2:11:42–2:14:22)

A group of $50 donors is thanked, with special mention of the "underappreciated" show notes. Stacy St. Armand from Ontario sends a note calling out her "cheap" brother, while Nathan Hansen in St. Paul requests karma for his legal career.

Keywords: [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md), [wyoming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wyoming.md), [ontario](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ontario.md), stacy st. armand, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/48.md)

### 49. PayPal Issues, Real Estate Karma Story (2:14:22–2:16:52)

A listener shares a "karma story" regarding the sale of a house in Rhode Island after moving to Las Vegas. Despite initial skepticism, the donor received a sale offer the day after a general karma shout-out on the show, leading them to switch from PayPal to direct bank transfers for future support.

Keywords: [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [bank transfer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-transfer.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Knighting Ceremony, Roundtable of Knights and Dames (2:16:53–2:19:52)

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for David Varney, Elliot Gardner, and David Durrell (the "Black Knight"). They are officially welcomed to the No Agenda Roundtable and granted their choice of symbolic rewards, such as "mutton and mead" or "hookers and blow."

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), david varney, elliot gardner, david durrell, [black knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-knight.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Nostalgia Video, 1950s Childhood Comparison (2:19:53–2:23:43)

A viral video comparing the childhoods of the 1950s-80s to the modern era is played, highlighting a lack of helmets, lead paint, and the freedom to play outside until dark. While one host finds the video "cute," the other dismisses it as "sentimental garbage" that ignores the reality of the modern world.

Keywords: [nostalgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nostalgia.md), [1950s](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1950s.md), [1960s](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1960s.md), [smartphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smartphones.md), risk taking

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Human Evolution, Internet Saturation (2:23:44–2:25:42)

The hosts speculate that the human species has not evolved fast enough to handle the constant stream of information provided by the internet. They suggest that the network is both the "best of times and the worst of times," potentially leading to a future where people are as disconnected as the "heads in jars" from Futurama.

Keywords: [evolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evolution.md), [internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet.md), [technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology.md), [futurama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/futurama.md), [information overload](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/information-overload.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Richard Haass, Charlie Rose Guest Host (2:25:43–2:28:31)

Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations, guest-hosted for Charlie Rose to discuss the Ukraine crisis. The panel concluded that economic sanctions are unlikely to work because the West is not prepared to endure the economic hardship that would result from a total break with Russia.

Keywords: [richard haass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-haass.md), [council on foreign relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/council-on-foreign-relations.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/53.md)

### 54. LNG Thesis, NATO East-West Divide (2:28:31–2:31:12)

A professor at Barnard College discusses the "LNG thesis," suggesting that the conflict in Ukraine is driving Europe to seek liquid natural gas alternatives to Russian energy. This shift is seen as giving NATO a "new lease on life" while potentially isolating the Russian economy and turning Gazprom into a pawn of the state.

Keywords: [lng](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lng.md), [natural gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-gas.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [gazprom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gazprom.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/54.md)

### 55. Geopolitical Neutrality, Arming Ukraine (2:31:13–2:33:56)

Foreign policy experts discuss the possibility of formalizing Ukraine's neutrality to reassure Russia. While some suggest arming the Ukrainians, others argue this is the "worst of all options" as it would be too slow to have an effect and might provoke a more aggressive Russian response.

Keywords: [neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neutrality.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), arming ukraine, geopolitical, [calculus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calculus.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/55.md)

### 56. Transnistria, The Next Domino in Moldova (2:33:57–2:36:11)

Experts at a CSIS meeting identified Transnistria, a breakaway state in Moldova, as the next potential "domino" to fall to Russia. Transnistria has reportedly asked to become part of the Russian Federation, which would create a territorial bridge between Russian-controlled Crimea and the Moldovan border.

Keywords: [transnistria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transnistria.md), [moldova](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moldova.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), eurasian agreement, [csis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/56.md)

### 57. Think Tank Transparency, Form 990 Delays (2:36:11–2:38:48)

The financial transparency of major think tanks like CSIS is called into question, as many have not filed their 2012 tax forms. There is a demand for more detailed reporting on donors for non-profit organizations that influence government policy, similar to how individual contractors must report their income sources.

Keywords: [csis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csis.md), [non-profits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-profits.md), [form 990](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/form-990.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md), [tax deductions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-deductions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/57.md)

### 58. HPV Vaccine, Roche HPV Test Approval (2:38:49–2:42:03)

The FDA has approved a new HPV test from Roche that may eventually replace the traditional Pap smear as the primary screen for cervical cancer. Critics argue the Gardasil vaccine and these new testing protocols are part of a "big scam" driven by pharmaceutical profits rather than public health.

Keywords: [hpv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv.md), [gardasil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gardasil.md), [roche](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roche.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [pap smear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pap-smear.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/58.md)

### 59. FDA Collusion, Roche Whistleblower Report (2:42:04–2:43:43)

Producers reporting from a hearing in College Park, Maryland, claim to have overheard Roche executives bragging about their "collusion" with the FDA. The report alleges that statistical analysis in clinical trials was manipulated to produce the results desired by the agency to ensure the test's approval.

Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [roche](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roche.md), [whistleblower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblower.md), [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md), college park

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/59.md)

### 60. Neil deGrasse Tyson, War on Science (2:43:45–2:46:00)

Neil deGrasse Tyson appeared on television to discuss a perceived "war on science," targeting climate change and vaccine deniers. Tyson argued that science is not something people can "cherry-pick" and that society must embrace scientific innovation to avoid regressing.

Keywords: [neil degrasse tyson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-degrasse-tyson.md), cosmos, science deniers, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [evolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evolution.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/60.md)

### 61. Science as Religion, Faith Language (2:46:01–2:49:44)

A listener's letter argues that Neil deGrasse Tyson uses "faith language" similar to Christian apologetics when discussing science. By claiming science is "true whether you believe it or not," Tyson is accused of positioning scientists as modern-day prophets and science itself as a dogmatic religion based on consensus rather than inquiry.

Keywords: [neil degrasse tyson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-degrasse-tyson.md), [religion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religion.md), [faith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faith.md), apologetics, [consensus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consensus.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/61.md)

### 62. Italian Earthquake Verdict, Science Communication (2:49:48–2:52:19)

A court in Italy convicted six scientists for failing to properly communicate the risk of the 2009 L'Aquila earthquake. This case has sparked a debate about whether scientists who "deny" or miscommunicate scientific facts should be penalized with prison time or public shaming.

Keywords: [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [l'aquila](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/l-aquila.md), [earthquake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake.md), [science](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science.md), [prison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/62.md)

### 63. FOIA Denials, General Jeffrey Sinclair Plea (2:52:20–2:54:20)

The Obama administration has denied a record number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, citing national security in 57% of cases. Meanwhile, Brigadier General Jeffrey Sinclair reached a plea deal to avoid sexual assault charges and sex offender registration despite accusations of mistreating an Army captain.

Keywords: [foia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foia.md), [obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama.md), jeffrey sinclair, [sexual assault](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault.md), [army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/army.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/63.md)

### 64. San Francisco Tech Buses, Wealth Disparity (2:54:20–2:56:32)

Unmarked buses carrying high-tech workers in San Francisco have become symbols of wealth disparity and gentrification. Activists in the Mission District criticize the "limousine-like" vehicles for representing a divide between new tech employees and long-time working-class residents.

Keywords: [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), tech buses, [google bus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-bus.md), [gentrification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gentrification.md), [mission district](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mission-district.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/64.md)

### 65. Democratic Strategy, 1% vs 99% Narrative (2:56:33–2:59:31)

White House advisor Dan Pfeiffer outlined the Democratic strategy for the upcoming elections, focusing on a "choice" between opportunity for all versus opportunity for the "few" (the 1%). This narrative is seen as a calculated political positioning to paint Republicans as the party of the wealthy elite.

Keywords: [dan pfeiffer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-pfeiffer.md), [democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrats.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [1 percent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1-percent.md), 2014 election

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/601-pilots-of-terror/chapter/65.md)

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