# Abundance of Caution

> Geopolitical tensions erupt in Kiev and Caracas while domestic security agencies leverage fear to justify new airport surveillance and restrictive internet regulations.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 593
- **Published:** 2014-02-24
- **Length:** 3h 5m
- **Topics:** Ukraine unrest, [Sochi Olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sochi-olympics.md), [John Kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), Shoe bombs, WhatsApp acquisition, Climate Super PAC, Dirty DUI
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution

## About this episode

Vladimir Putin faces a strategic crisis in Ukraine as violent protests in Kiev threaten to shift NATO borders further east during the Sochi Olympics. Secretary of State John Kerry and the Obama administration are accused of driving a neocon agenda in the region while public figures like George Clooney and Vitali Klitschko frame the unrest for Western audiences. The standoff between President Viktor Yanukovych and pro-EU demonstrators suggests a return to Cold War-era geopolitics on the Russian border.

In Venezuela, opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez surrenders to the Maduro government to seek martyrdom, mirroring the instability seen in Eastern Europe. Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security issues a shoe bomb terror alert for international flights, a move interpreted as a marketing tactic for expensive airport security hardware. In the United States, the FCC moves to regulate the internet following a court defeat, while Facebook acquires WhatsApp for $19 billion to secure its massive database of social relationships. Additional reports cover the sentencing of former Contra Costa Deputy Stephen Tanabe for a "Dirty DUI" entrapment scheme and General John Allen's admission regarding Afghanistan's trillion-dollar lithium deposits.

Adam Curry recounts a high-level meeting at the Austin Club with former Iraq Inspector General Stuart Bowen where the price of a Texas senate seat was revealed to be $500,000. The hosts also perform a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Kurt and Sir Baz while debunking the "kale scam" and the rebranding of poor man's lettuce as a superfood. John C. Dvorak and Curry conclude with a look at the Pussy Riot whipping incident in Sochi, questioning the authenticity of the footage.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/transcript.md.

### 1. Curry and Dvorak Open Episode 593 from Austin and Sochi West (0:00–1:53)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the "Gitmo Nation Media Assassination" episode 593 on Thursday, February 20, 2014. Curry broadcasts from the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas, while Dvorak checks in from "Sochi West." The hosts exchange banter regarding their schedules and Curry's recent purchase of a new mattress with his partner, Miss Mickey.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [travis heights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travis-heights.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), sochi west

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Austin Club Meeting with Stuart Bowen and Local Elites (1:53–6:18)

Adam Curry describes attending a private meeting at the Austin Club, a historic venue in Texas, at the invitation of his constitutional lawyer friend, Eric. The guest speaker was Stuart Bowen, the former Inspector General for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and a Bush-Cheney transition team insider. Curry details conversations with lobbyists and the head of the Texas Teachers Retirement Fund, noting that a state senate seat in Texas reportedly costs $500,000 to secure.

Keywords: austin club, stuart bowen, [eric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric.md), texas teachers retirement fund, [lobbyists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbyists.md), [state senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-senate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Ukraine Protests and CBS News Coverage of Kiev Unrest (6:19–12:34)

The discussion shifts to the violent protests in Kiev, Ukraine, which the hosts refer to as "Kiev burns." They play a CBS News report featuring Holly Williams and Major Garrett detailing the standoff between protesters and President Viktor Yanukovych. The report highlights the geopolitical tug-of-law between Russia and the European Union, while the hosts critique the mainstream media's framing of the conflict.

Keywords: [kiev](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kiev.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [viktor yanukovych](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viktor-yanukovych.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [holly williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holly-williams.md), [major garrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/major-garrett.md), independence square

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Putin, NATO Expansion, and the Geopolitics of Ukraine (12:35–16:19)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the Ukraine crisis as a strategic embarrassment for Vladimir Putin during the Sochi Olympics. They argue that the West is attempting to move NATO borders further east, effectively creating a new "East and West Berlin" scenario on the Russian border. The hosts suggest that various international events, including the Pussy Riot incident and the Facebook acquisition of WhatsApp, are being used as leverage against Russia.

Keywords: [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [pussy riot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pussy-riot.md), [snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snowden.md), [merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merkel.md), [cold war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cold-war.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Obama and Kerry on Ukraine and Syria Proxy Wars (16:20–21:29)

President Obama's comments during a trade mission in Mexico are deconstructed, specifically his denial that the Ukraine situation is a Cold War chessboard. The hosts argue that Secretary of State John Kerry and "Skull and Bones" insiders are driving a neocon agenda in both Syria and Ukraine. They posit that the administration is caught off guard by the organic nature of the unrest while simultaneously funding radical elements.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [skull and bones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skull-and-bones.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [trans-pacific partnership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trans-pacific-partnership.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Vitali Klitschko and George Clooney Support Ukrainian Protesters (21:29–24:58)

The hosts discuss the role of the UDAR party led by boxer Vitali Klitschko in demanding early presidential elections in Ukraine. They play a clip of actor George Clooney expressing support for the protesters and imprisoned politician Yulia Tymoshenko. Curry suggests that Clooney's involvement is part of a broader propaganda effort to frame the conflict for Western audiences.

Keywords: [vitali klitschko](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitali-klitschko.md), [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md), [yulia tymoshenko](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yulia-tymoshenko.md), udar, [amnesty international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amnesty-international.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Putin's Potential Response Following the Sochi Olympics (25:00–28:08)

Speculation turns to how Vladimir Putin will react once the Sochi Olympics conclude. The hosts suggest that the current unrest is a provocation intended to make Putin look bad, and they predict he may send Russian troops into Ukraine under the cover of night to restore order. They also reference the leaked Victoria Nuland phone call and Vice President Joe Biden's role as a diplomatic "puppet."

Keywords: [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [sochi olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sochi-olympics.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), russian troops

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Venezuela Unrest and Leopoldo Lopez Martyrdom (28:08–29:42)

The hosts briefly touch upon the political instability in Venezuela, comparing it to the situation in Ukraine. They discuss opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez turning himself in to the police to become a "Mandela-type" martyr against the Maduro government. Dvorak suggests that the U.S. may not be as directly involved in Venezuela as it is in Eastern Europe due to limited resources.

Keywords: [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [nicolas maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), leopoldo lopez, [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md), [south america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-america.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/8.md)

### 9. John Kerry's Leadership and Syria No-Fly Zone Threats (29:43–34:46)

Adam Curry criticizes John Kerry's performance as Secretary of State, calling him "dumb as wood" and questioning his mental state following a climate change speech in Jakarta. The discussion covers the failure of the Geneva 2 protocols and a Wall Street Journal report suggesting the U.S. is reconsidering no-fly zones and paying rebel salaries in Syria. The hosts view these moves as dangerous provocations against Russia.

Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), geneva 2, [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [no-fly zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-fly-zone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Republic of Crimea and Separatist Stirrings (34:46–37:00)

John C. Dvorak introduces a report on the Republic of Crimea, an autonomous region in southern Ukraine with a majority Russian population. The segment highlights Kremlin advisor Sergei Glazyev's calls for a crackdown on protesters. The hosts discuss the potential for separatist movements in Crimea as Russian nationalists react to the perceived threat from the pro-EU protests in Kiev.

Keywords: [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [black sea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-sea.md), sergei glazyev, [kremlin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kremlin.md), russian nationalists

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Pussy Riot Whipping Incident in Sochi (37:01–42:13)

The hosts analyze the reported beating of Pussy Riot members by Cossack militiamen in Sochi. They express skepticism about the authenticity of the event, suggesting the footage looks like a "bad high school play" or a staged music video. They compare the use of horse whips in Russia to the use of Tasers and pepper spray by police in the United States, accusing Amnesty International of promoting propaganda.

Keywords: [pussy riot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pussy-riot.md), [sochi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sochi.md), [cossacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cossacks.md), [amnesty international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amnesty-international.md), [pepper spray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pepper-spray.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/11.md)

### 12. DHS Shoe Bomb Terror Alert and Media Fearmongering (42:14–52:48)

The Department of Homeland Security issues a new terror alert regarding potential shoe bombs on inbound international flights. The hosts deconstruct media coverage from CNN and CBS, noting the repetitive use of the phrase "abundance of caution." They argue that the timing of the alert—following a previous "toothpaste bomb" warning—is designed to maintain a cycle of public fear and justify increased security measures.

Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), shoe bomb, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), jim schuette, [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [peter bergen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-bergen.md), abundance of caution

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Airport Swab Machines and Security Industry Profits (52:48–55:09)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the differences between European and American airport security, specifically the use of explosive detection swab machines. Dvorak notes that these machines are rare in Europe compared to the U.S. They speculate that the recent terror alerts may be a marketing tactic to sell expensive security hardware to European airports.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [schiphol airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol-airport.md), [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), explosive detection, security technology

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/13.md)

### 14. No Agenda 12-Hour Show Proposal and Revisiting Archives (55:10–57:39)

The hosts discuss a potential "rock till you drop" promotion where they would broadcast a continuous 12-hour episode. They reflect on the challenge of new listeners asking about topics the show covered years ago and the need to better utilize their extensive archive of over 590 episodes.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [archives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archives.md), [promotion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/promotion.md), 12-hour show, [listener feedback](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-feedback.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/14.md)

### 15. 600 Club Executive Producers and UAW Defeat in Tennessee (57:40–1:02:16)

Adam Curry begins the donor thank-you segment, highlighting members of the "600 Club" as the show approaches its 600th episode. Sir Dr. Sharkey donates $600 to celebrate the defeat of the UAW at the Volkswagen plant in Tennessee. Other major donors from Australia and the UK are recognized for their contributions toward knighthoods and damehoods.

Keywords: [600 club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/600-club.md), [uaw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uaw.md), [volkswagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volkswagen.md), [tennessee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tennessee.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Knighthood Requests and Winter Weather in Boston (1:02:39–1:05:13)

The hosts process knighthood requests and "job karma" for listeners and their families. A donor from North Quincy, Massachusetts, discusses the heavy snowfall in Boston and requests that the hosts stop using "rain sticks," which he blames for the excessive snow. Curry clarifies that the show only uses rain sticks, not snow sticks.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [job karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-karma.md), [south dakota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-dakota.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), snow sticks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/16.md)

### 17. DJ Shane O'Hare Name Drop and Baronet Russell Williams (1:05:14–1:08:45)

Shane O'Hare from Alaska requests a "name drop" for a DJ competition in Anchorage. Adam Curry performs a "surfer voice" drop for the set. Additionally, Russell Williams is elevated to the rank of Baronet, and the hosts discuss a sword Williams previously gifted to Curry.

Keywords: dj shane o'hare, [anchorage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anchorage.md), [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), [baronet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baronet.md), russell williams, name drop

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Value for Value, PayPal Alternatives, and the Seed Man (1:08:47–1:11:59)

A donor from Colorado expresses support for the "value for value" model and the show's media deconstruction. The hosts discuss the logistics of shipping physical checks to avoid PayPal fees. Adam Curry shares an anecdote about a local Austin figure known as "the seed man" (Alex Jones), who reportedly employs 60 people in a warehouse shipping survivalist products like seeds and water filters.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [seeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seeds.md), water filters, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/18.md)

### 19. San Francisco Meetup and YouWillObey.us Domain (1:11:59–1:15:00)

The hosts announce a No Agenda meetup in San Francisco at John Collins on Mina Street, coinciding with a major cyber security conference. They also thank a producer for securing the domain "youwillobey.us," which now redirects to the main No Agenda website.

Keywords: [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md), [rsa conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsa-conference.md), [cyber security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-security.md), youwillobey.us

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/19.md)

### 20. No Agenda NGO (NANGO) and LGBTQ Rights in Africa (1:15:01–1:19:05)

Adam Curry proposes turning No Agenda into an official Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) called "NANGO." He discusses the trend of Western NGOs using LGBTQ rights as a geopolitical tool in Africa, specifically citing Uganda's anti-gay legislation. Curry suggests that "rebranding" as a pro-LGBTQ NGO could be a lucrative way to gain international influence and funding.

Keywords: nango, [ngo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ngo.md), [uganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uganda.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md), [human rights watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights-watch.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton Global Initiative Agenda (1:19:05–1:24:29)

The hosts critique a speech by Chelsea Clinton at a Human Rights Campaign event where she frames LGBTQ rights as the "unfinished business of the 21st century." They discuss the Clinton family's influence through the Clinton Global Initiative and speculate on the strategic use of identity politics to advance globalist agendas. Curry mentions plans to potentially approach Chelsea Clinton at the upcoming South by Southwest festival.

Keywords: [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), [clinton global initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-global-initiative.md), [lgbtq rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq-rights.md), [human rights campaign](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights-campaign.md), [south by southwest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-by-southwest.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Expanding LGBTQQIAAP Acronyms and Allyship (1:24:29–1:27:17)

Adam Curry lists the expanding acronym for gender and sexual identities, including "pansexual" and "allies." The hosts joke about the complexity of the terminology and suggest that under new social norms, being "straight" is increasingly framed as being automatically homophobic unless one identifies as an "ally."

Keywords: [lgbtqqiaap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtqqiaap.md), [pansexual](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pansexual.md), [homophobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homophobia.md), [ally](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ally.md), [terminology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terminology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/22.md)

### 23. The Scramble for Africa and Waterway Control (1:27:17–1:31:15)

The discussion turns to the modern "Scramble for Africa," referencing the historical Fashoda Incident of 1898. The hosts discuss how universities and asset management firms are buying fertile African land. They contrast Western intervention strategies with China's infrastructure-based approach, suggesting that the West uses human rights as a pretext to secure minerals and waterways.

Keywords: fashoda incident, white nile, china-africa cooperation, emergent asset management, [minerals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minerals.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Pathar Social Media Analysis and CIA Connections (1:31:16–1:36:24)

Adam Curry investigates a company called Pathar and its "Doonami" software, which performs deep analysis of social media data to predict extremist behavior. He notes the company's reported ties to the CIA and its use of anonymized registration. The hosts discuss how security agencies use metadata and phone tracking to identify anonymous activists in locations like Starbucks.

Keywords: pathar, doonami, [big data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Income Inequality and the Zero-Sum Game Myth (1:36:25–1:40:40)

The hosts debate the concept of income inequality, questioning whether the economy is a "zero-sum game." Dvorak argues that politicians, rather than the wealthy, should be the primary targets of public frustration due to corruption. They cite examples of political scandals in Chicago involving Jesse Jackson Jr. and others as evidence of systemic failure.

Keywords: [income inequality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/income-inequality.md), [money supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-supply.md), [tom perkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-perkins.md), [wealth tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth-tax.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Elon Musk, Tesla Credits, and Fisker Automotive (1:40:41–1:44:37)

The discussion covers the business model of Tesla Motors, specifically how the company generates revenue by selling zero-emission vehicle credits to other automakers. They credit Sequoia Capital's Michael Moritz for the strategy. The hosts also compare the Tesla Model S to the Fisker Karma, noting that while Henrik Fisker is a talented designer, his company failed due to poor engineering.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), zero-emission credits, [sequoia capital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sequoia-capital.md), [fisker karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisker-karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/26.md)

### 27. John Kerry's Science Lesson and Maurice Strong (1:44:37–1:50:58)

Adam Curry deconstructs a speech given by John Kerry in Jakarta, Indonesia, where the Secretary of State attempted to explain the "veracity" of climate science using analogies about gravity and boiling water. Kerry cites Maurice Strong, the co-founder of the Chicago Climate Exchange. The hosts mock Kerry's delivery and his comparison of climate change to a weapon of mass destruction.

Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [maurice strong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maurice-strong.md), [jakarta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jakarta.md), [physics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/physics.md), [carbon exchange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-exchange.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Climate Change as a Political and Economic Tool (1:50:58–1:56:53)

The hosts argue that John Kerry's alarmist rhetoric on climate change is a calculated effort to drive policy and economic shifts. They suggest Kerry is a "megalomaniac" who writes his own speeches to scare the public into supporting international agreements like Agenda 21. They critique the "97% consensus" figure as a political talking point rather than a scientific fact.

Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [agenda 21](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agenda-21.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Bill Nye vs. Marsha Blackburn on Meet the Press (1:56:53–2:00:08)

The hosts review a debate between "Bill Nye the Science Guy" and Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn on "Meet the Press." They point out that Nye is an engineer and comedian rather than a climate scientist. They discuss the funding of scientific studies by large corporations and the lack of consensus regarding the specific causes of global temperature shifts.

Keywords: [bill nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), [marsha blackburn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marsha-blackburn.md), [meet the press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meet-the-press.md), planetary society, [climate debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-debate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Tom Steyer's $100 Million Climate Super PAC (2:00:08–2:02:51)

Billionaire investor Tom Steyer announces the creation of a $100 million Super PAC, NextGen Climate Action, to fund advertising related to global warming. The hosts view this as a Democratic counterweight to the Koch brothers' influence. They discuss the potential for profit in the "climate industry" and joke about changing their own stance on the issue to tap into the funding.

Keywords: [tom steyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-steyer.md), [super pac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-pac.md), nextgen climate, [koch brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/koch-brothers.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Bill Nye's Background and Natural Gas Shilling (2:02:52–2:11:24)

The hosts examine Bill Nye's professional history at Boeing and his transition into entertainment. They argue that his appearance on "Meet the Press" served as "native advertising" for the natural gas industry, specifically PG&E. They also catch Nye making factual errors regarding ice levels in the Antarctic during the broadcast.

Keywords: [bill nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [pg&e](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pg-e.md), [natural gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-gas.md), [greenhouse gases](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greenhouse-gases.md), [arctic ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arctic-ice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Donor Thank-Yous and the David Coverdale Confusion (2:11:24–2:15:43)

Adam Curry addresses a recurring case of mistaken identity where viewers of an INXS documentary confused him with Whitesnake singer David Coverdale or former MTV VJ Mark Goodman. He thanks various donors, including those contributing $80.80 and $137, for their support and clarifies that he was not featured in the documentary.

Keywords: david coverdale, inxs, [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), mark goodman, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Kale as "Poor Man's Lettuce" and Cod Liver Oil (2:15:43–2:17:57)

The hosts discuss the "kale scam," noting that the vegetable was historically known as "poor man's lettuce" before being rebranded as a high-priced "superfood." They compare the trend to the historical use of cod liver oil in Scandinavia to treat seasonal affective disorder (SAD), noting that Iceland still dedicates entire grocery aisles to the product.

Keywords: [kale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kale.md), [superfood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/superfood.md), [cod liver oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cod-liver-oil.md), [iceland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iceland.md), seasonal affective disorder

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Croatian Castles and Sergeant Fred's Unique Packages (2:17:59–2:21:20)

Donations are recognized from listeners in Croatia and Alabama. Adam Curry describes a unique package from "Sergeant Fred" that included the movie "La Cucaracha" and $55.10 in cash (double nickels on a dime) hidden between business cards. The hosts also acknowledge a donor with "block letter script" handwriting from Illinois.

Keywords: [croatia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/croatia.md), [sergeant fred](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sergeant-fred.md), [double nickels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/double-nickels.md), la cucaracha, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Monthly Donation Increases and LinkedIn Gigs (2:21:20–2:23:47)

The hosts thank producers who have increased their monthly pledges, noting that these recurring donations are vital for the show's sustainability. They joke that being credited as a No Agenda executive producer helps listeners secure jobs on LinkedIn and other professional platforms.

Keywords: [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [monthly donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monthly-donations.md), [linkedin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linkedin.md), [credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credits.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Knighting Ceremony for Sir Kurt and Sir Baz (2:23:52–2:25:18)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Kurt Danielson and Brian House, who have each donated $1,000 or more. They are dubbed "Sir Kurt of the Frozen North" and "Sir Baz von Bateau." The hosts recite the traditional list of "hookers and blow" rewards associated with the title.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md), kurt danielson, [brian house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-house.md), [ceremony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceremony.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Sochi Stray Dogs and Anti-Putin Media Narratives (2:25:18–2:27:12)

The hosts discuss the media focus on stray dogs in Sochi during the Olympics, featuring American skier Gus Kenworthy. They argue that the "Save Sochi Dogs" campaign is a transparent effort to humiliate Vladimir Putin and distract from the actual sporting events.

Keywords: [sochi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sochi.md), stray dogs, gus kenworthy, povodog, pet adoption

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Queensland "Out-of-Control Party" Laws and Selective Enforcement (2:27:13–2:32:35)

New legislation in Queensland, Australia, aims to curb "out-of-control parties" by defining them as gatherings of 12 or more people where three or more engage in "disorderly" conduct. The hosts criticize the law as a tool for selective enforcement and a sign of a growing police state in Australia, comparing it to historical fascist and Soviet tactics.

Keywords: [queensland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queensland.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), party laws, selective enforcement, bikey laws

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Contra Costa "Dirty DUI" Police Scandal (2:32:36–2:35:51)

Former Contra Costa County Sheriff's deputy Stephen Tanabe is sentenced to 15 months in prison for his role in a "Dirty DUI" scheme. The hosts describe how Tanabe conspired with a private investigator to entrap men going through divorces by over-serving them at bars and arresting them as they drove away. They cite this as an example of the "police state" mentality where officers believe illegal entrapment is acceptable.

Keywords: [contra costa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contra-costa.md), stephen tanabe, dirty dui, [entrapment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entrapment.md), [police corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-corruption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/39.md)

### 40. General John Allen on Afghanistan's Mineral Wealth (2:35:51–2:37:36)

General John Allen is recorded discussing Afghanistan's natural resources, which he estimates to be worth "trillions with an S." He specifically highlights the "breathtaking" extractive capacity of the country's mining industry, particularly lithium. The hosts interpret his comments as a rare admission that the U.S. military presence is tied to securing mineral interests.

Keywords: [john allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-allen.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [lithium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lithium.md), [mining](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mining.md), trillions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Three Amigos Summit and the Sinaloa Cartel Theory (2:37:36–2:41:46)

The "Three Amigos" summit in Mexico between President Obama, Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and President Peña Nieto is discussed. While the official agenda includes the Keystone Pipeline and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), John C. Dvorak speculates that the quick one-day trip was actually intended to deliver a "package" or message to the Sinaloa Cartel.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [stephen harper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-harper.md), [enrique peña nieto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/enrique-pena-nieto.md), [sinaloa cartel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sinaloa-cartel.md), [keystone pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keystone-pipeline.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Jessalyn Radack's Detention at Heathrow Airport (2:41:47–2:49:38)

Whistleblower attorney Jessalyn Radack reports being detained and questioned at Heathrow Airport while traveling to meet Julian Assange. The hosts play a clip of her interview on RT America and mock her account, suggesting she provoked the questioning by mentioning Edward Snowden. They argue that Radack and other figures like Glenn Greenwald are increasingly making themselves the center of the news stories they report.

Keywords: jessalyn radack, [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [heathrow airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow-airport.md), sam adams associates, [bradley manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bradley-manning.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/42.md)

### 43. First Look Media, The Intercept, and the Polk Award (2:49:39–2:54:54)

The hosts critique "The Intercept" (which they call "The Incest") and its parent company, First Look Media, funded by Pierre Omidyar. They discuss the hiring of Matt Taibbi and the announcement that Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras received the Polk Award. Dvorak points out that the organizations funding these awards, such as the Knight Foundation and Open Society Foundations, have specific ideological strings attached.

Keywords: [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [pierre omidyar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-omidyar.md), [the intercept](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-intercept.md), polk award, [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/43.md)

### 44. FCC Net Neutrality Rules and the Comcast-NBC Merger (2:54:55–3:00:10)

The FCC announces plans to draw up new "open internet" rules following a court defeat. The hosts argue that this is the "beginning of the end" for internet freedom, as it invites government regulation and licensing. They highlight the "revolving door" of regulation by noting that former FCC commissioner Meredith Baker became a lobbyist for Comcast shortly after approving its merger with NBC.

Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), meredith baker, [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Facebook's WhatsApp Acquisition and the War on Passwords (3:00:11–3:04:11)

The hosts discuss Facebook's $19 billion acquisition of WhatsApp, suggesting the high price tag is for the database of social relationships rather than advertising revenue. They also touch on the "war on passwords," criticizing the move toward biometric and centralized login systems like Google's Slick Login as a way to make user data more accessible to hackers and intelligence agencies.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [whatsapp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whatsapp.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [passwords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passwords.md), slick login, [biometrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biometrics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Sunday Show Preview and Sign-off (3:04:13–3:05:21)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode by speculating on whether Russian troops will enter Ukraine before the end of the Olympics. They encourage listeners to support the show through the "value for value" model and sign off from Austin and "West Sochi."

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), [olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/593-abundance-of-caution/chapter/46.md)

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