# Warren, Melinda & I

> A deep dive into the state-sponsored funding of the Tor Project, the reality of NSA drone surveillance, and the corporate branding of New Year’s Eve.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 579
- **Published:** 2014-01-02
- **Length:** 3h 5m
- **Topics:** [Tor Project](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tor-project.md), H1N1 Outbreak, [Jacob Applebaum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacob-applebaum.md), NSA Drones, [Bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [Giving Pledge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/giving-pledge.md), [Windows 8.1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-8-1.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i

## About this episode

President Barack Obama designated January 2014 as National Mentoring Month and National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month, drawing sharp criticism regarding the irony of these proclamations against the backdrop of U.S. prison labor practices. In Austin, Texas, activists have entered the third day of a hunger strike outside City Hall to protest municipal water fluoridation. Meanwhile, health officials in Rhode Island and Massachusetts report a surge in H1N1 swine flu hospitalizations among young adults, prompting a shift in vaccine distribution strategies.

Jacob Applebaum and the Tor Project face scrutiny following a Chaos Computer Club keynote that alleged the NSA uses drones for WiFi packet injection and continuous wave radar for industrial espionage. Financial records reveal the Tor Project receives millions in funding from the U.S. State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors, raising questions about its independence. Additional reports detail the NSA's Dropout Jeep exploit for iPhone surveillance and the debunked claim that agency antennas in San Antonio were responsible for local garage door interference. In New York, Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed a final ban on e-cigarettes in public spaces, while the University of California system implemented a total tobacco prohibition across all campuses.

Microsoft’s Windows 8.1 Pro Preview begins a policy of forced reboots every two hours for unactivated users, leading to a live experiment on the broadcast. The tragic death of the Palestinian Ambassador in Prague via a booby-trapped safe and the release of Bill Gates’s correspondence with the late Robert Wilson provide a somber look at global security and the realities of billionaire philanthropy.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/transcript.md.

### 1. National Mentoring Month, Presidential Proclamations for January 2014 (0:00–2:41)

President Barack Obama issued a proclamation designating January 2014 as National Mentoring Month, urging public officials and community leaders to support youth development. The period also marks National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. The hosts note the irony of these proclamations given the high incarceration rates and labor practices within the United States prison system.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), national mentoring month, [presidential proclamation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-proclamation.md), human trafficking prevention month, january 2014

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/1.md)

### 2. National Stalking Awareness Month, Austin Hunger Strike (2:42–4:36)

January is designated as National Stalking Awareness Month to highlight crimes affecting one in six American women. In Austin, Texas, activists have initiated a hunger strike outside City Hall to protest the continued fluoridation of the municipal water supply. The strike reached its third day as participants demand the city stop adding fluoride to drinking water.

Keywords: stalking awareness, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [hunger strike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunger-strike.md), [fluoride](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fluoride.md), [water fluoridation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/water-fluoridation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/2.md)

### 3. First Baby of 2014, MKUltra Media Narratives (4:36–6:52)

A discussion regarding the first baby born in 2014 transitions into a critique of mainstream media reporting styles. One host suggests the mother of a New Year's baby presented a scripted message reminiscent of MKUltra mind control narratives. The segment includes audio clips of family members reacting to the birth and a brief acknowledgment of the live chat room audience.

Keywords: [mkultra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mkultra.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [new year](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-year.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [media clips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-clips.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/3.md)

### 4. H1N1 Swine Flu Outbreak, Rhode Island Health Warnings (6:53–10:57)

Health officials in Rhode Island, led by Director Dr. Michael Fine, are reporting widespread H1N1 swine flu activity. Unlike typical seasons that threaten the elderly, this outbreak is reportedly causing hospitalizations and deaths among young adults. Officials are urging immediate vaccination as cases rise in neighboring Massachusetts and New York.

Keywords: [h1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md), [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), [rhode island](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhode-island.md), michael fine, [vaccinations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccinations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Flu Vaccine Composition, H1N1 Integration Skepticism (10:57–15:27)

Questions are raised regarding the medical industry's shift from requiring a separate two-shot H1N1 regimen in 2009 to including it in a single standard flu shot today. The discussion highlights potential financial conflicts of interest within the World Health Organization. Personal anecdotes about "hair pain" during illness lead to a brief tangent about the hosts' personal grooming and aging.

Keywords: [h1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [pandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic.md), [immunization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Windows 8.1 Pro Preview, Microsoft Reboot Policy (15:28–17:57)

A host reports that their computer running the Windows 8.1 Pro Preview has begun displaying messages demanding a license purchase. Microsoft reportedly implements a policy where unactivated preview versions reboot every two hours to encourage users to pay for the full operating system. An experiment is conducted live to see if the machine will force a restart during the broadcast.

Keywords: [windows 8.1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-8-1.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), operating system, software preview, tech experiment

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Mayor Bloomberg, New York City E-Cigarette Ban (17:58–19:33)

In one of his final acts as Mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg signed a law extending the city's smoking ban to include e-cigarettes and vaping. The legislation prohibits the use of these devices in offices, restaurants, bars, and parks. Critics argue the ban may hinder smokers attempting to transition away from traditional tobacco products.

Keywords: [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [e-cigarettes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-cigarettes.md), [vaping ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaping-ban.md), smoking laws

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/7.md)

### 8. University of California Tobacco Ban, Chewing Tobacco Anecdotes (19:33–25:11)

The University of California system has implemented a comprehensive smoke-free policy across all campuses, banning cigarettes, e-cigarettes, and smokeless tobacco. This news prompts a personal story about an experience with high-nicotine chewing tobacco at a Union Oil refinery. The hosts discuss the addictive nature of "snus" and the social stigma associated with smoking and tobacco use.

Keywords: [university of california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-california.md), [tobacco ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tobacco-ban.md), chewing tobacco, [nicotine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicotine.md), [smoking cessation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smoking-cessation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Colorado Marijuana Legalization, School Disciplinary Issues (25:12–29:42)

Reports from Colorado suggest that marijuana has become the primary reason for student expulsions following legalization. While illegal for those under 21, students claim the drug is easily accessible. The hosts suggest these reports are being sensationalized by the Justice Department to undermine state legalization efforts, noting that youth drug use is a long-standing issue regardless of legal status.

Keywords: [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [marijuana legalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana-legalization.md), drug tourism, [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md), [school discipline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-discipline.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Dutch Bicycle Culture, Urban Transportation Safety (29:43–32:54)

A comparison is drawn between the organic bicycle culture of the Netherlands and the forced implementation of bike lanes in American cities like San Francisco and Austin. In Amsterdam, high volumes of cyclists navigate intersections without helmets or aggressive conflict, which is attributed to a century of cultural integration. The hosts argue that safety is a matter of culture rather than strict regulation.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), bicycle safety, [urban planning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-planning.md), traffic culture

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Jordan Maxwell, Sovereign Citizen Corporate Theories (32:54–40:38)

The hosts critique the theories of Jordan Maxwell, a lecturer who claims the United States is a corporation owned by foreign interests under maritime law. Maxwell's assertions regarding the Act of 1871 and the idea that individuals are traded on the stock exchange are dismissed as illogical. The discussion emphasizes that these "sovereign citizen" tropes often cause more confusion than clarity.

Keywords: jordan maxwell, [infowars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infowars.md), act of 1871, [maritime law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maritime-law.md), sovereign citizen

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Robert Wilson, Bill Gates Giving Pledge Correspondence (40:38–47:10)

Following the suicide of hedge fund manager Robert Wilson, an email exchange between him and Bill Gates was released. Wilson declined to join the "Giving Pledge," calling it a "worthless" loophole that allows billionaires to avoid giving while alive by using family-controlled foundations. Wilson advised young successful people to focus on wealth creation rather than philanthropy until later in life.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), robert w. wilson, [giving pledge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/giving-pledge.md), [philanthropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philanthropy.md), [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/12.md)

### 13. French VAT Increases, European Economic Policy (47:10–50:06)

France implemented new tax hikes on January 1st, 2014, including an increase in the Value Added Tax (VAT) from 19.6% to 20%. The intermediate rate for restaurants and services rose from 7% to 10%, forcing business owners to decide between raising prices or absorbing the costs. The hosts discuss the broader implications of VAT across the Eurozone and its impact on consumers.

Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [vat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vat.md), [value added tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-added-tax.md), [eurozone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone.md), [taxation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Social Services Fraud, Dutch Welfare Culture (50:07–52:39)

Reflecting on life in the Netherlands during the 1970s, a host describes the pitfalls of high-tax socialist systems, including widespread exploitation of disability and vacation insurance. Personal anecdotes illustrate how cultural attitudes toward "rights" led to insurance and VAT receipt fraud. The discussion posits that such systems often invite corruption at both the top and bottom of society.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [socialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialism.md), welfare fraud, vat fraud, [disability insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disability-insurance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Wolf of Wall Street, House of Cards Media Review (52:40–56:06)

A review of "The Wolf of Wall Street" notes that audiences in the financial district cheered for the protagonist's illegal activities. The hosts also discuss the Netflix series "House of Cards," describing the characters as despicable and murderous, yet compelling. Other television recommendations include the series "Rubicon," available on Amazon Prime.

Keywords: wolf of wall street, [house of cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-cards.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [rubicon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rubicon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Mainstream Media Interactions, No Agenda Value Model (56:07–1:00:53)

The hosts discuss their refusal to engage with mainstream publications, such as a Dutch magazine seeking comments on Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing. They argue that traditional media only seeks to frame them as "conspiracy theorists" for profit. The segment reinforces the "Value-for-Value" model, which allows the show to operate independently of corporate gatekeepers and advertising.

Keywords: [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [boston bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston-bombing.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [media assassin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/16.md)

### 17. PBS Underwriting, Times Square Commercialization (1:00:54–1:05:05)

A critique of public broadcasting reveals how corporate underwriting has replaced traditional donations, leading to "independent" reports funded by companies like Kaiser Permanente. This commercialization is compared to the transformation of New Year's Eve in Times Square, which the hosts claim has been ruined by heavy branding from companies like Nivea and scripted television segments.

Keywords: [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [kaiser permanente](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiser-permanente.md), [times square](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/times-square.md), [nivea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nivea.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Roku 3 Features, DVR Technology History (1:05:06–1:07:29)

The Roku 3 streaming box is praised for its universal search function and high-quality H.264 decoding. A host recounts a meeting with the CEO of Roku, who previously founded ReplayTV and was a pioneer in DVR technology. The device is noted for its ability to run the Time Warner Cable app, allowing users to bypass standard cable boxes.

Keywords: roku 3, [dvr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvr.md), [replaytv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/replaytv.md), [tivo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tivo.md), [streaming media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Sponsor segment: Executive Producer Donations, Email Server Advice (1:07:30–1:13:47)

The show acknowledges major donors, including David Foley of 4kspecial.com and Atlas McDonald. A listener's question about setting up a private email server prompts advice on the difficulty of self-hosting versus using third-party services like Rackspace or Amazon EC2. The hosts emphasize that owning your infrastructure is the only way to ensure true data privacy.

Keywords: [david foley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-foley.md), 4kspecial, bit torrent, [email server](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/email-server.md), [rackspace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rackspace.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Sponsor segment: Knighting Ceremony, Windows Phone App Launch (1:13:47–1:24:04)

Several listeners are elevated to the No Agenda peerage, including new Knights and Barons. The segment includes the reading of donation notes from students and long-time listeners. Additionally, a new third-party No Agenda mobile application has been launched for the Windows Phone platform, developed by Christian Schroeder.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [windows phone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-phone.md), christian schroeder, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Jacob Applebaum, Chaos Computer Club Keynote (1:24:07–1:27:19)

The hosts turn their focus to Jacob Applebaum and his recent keynote at the Chaos Computer Club in Germany. They express skepticism regarding Applebaum's status as a "hero," noting his residence in Berlin and his ties to various government-funded organizations. The discussion questions the authenticity of his claims and his role in the broader Snowden/Greenwald narrative.

Keywords: [jacob applebaum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacob-applebaum.md), [chaos computer club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chaos-computer-club.md), [tor project](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tor-project.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Tor Project Funding, Government Sponsorship (1:27:20–1:31:40)

An analysis of the Tor Project's financial sponsors reveals significant funding from the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the Knight Foundation. The hosts argue that because Tor is a 501(c)(3) corporation receiving millions in government grants, it cannot be considered a truly independent or secure anonymity tool. They suggest Applebaum may be an agent protecting specific corporate interests.

Keywords: [tor project](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tor-project.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [broadcasting board of governors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting-board-of-governors.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [pierre omidyar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-omidyar.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Der Spiegel NSA Report, Garage Door Interference (1:31:41–1:36:02)

A Der Spiegel article co-authored by Jacob Applebaum claims the NSA's antennas in San Antonio interfered with local garage door openers. The hosts debunk the framing of this story, explaining that the interference was caused by the Department of Defense's Land Mobile Radio system operating on a frequency that garage door manufacturers were previously warned to vacate. They cite this as an example of sensationalized journalism.

Keywords: [der spiegel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/der-spiegel.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [san antonio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-antonio.md), garage door openers, tailored access operations

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Laura Poitras, Iraq IED Incident Allegations (1:36:02–1:40:56)

The credibility of filmmaker Laura Poitras is questioned, specifically regarding an incident in Iraq where she was allegedly filming from a roof during an IED attack that killed U.S. soldiers. The hosts suggest the military's animosity toward her stems from claims that she had prior knowledge of the ambush. They posit that her involvement in the Snowden leaks may be part of a coordinated intelligence operation.

Keywords: [laura poitras](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-poitras.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [ied](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ied.md), [us military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-military.md), documentary film

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Sexuality in Spying, Applebaum Speech Critique (1:40:56–1:45:49)

The discussion explores a potential link between sexuality and espionage, noting Jacob Applebaum's past employment at Kink.com. The hosts critique Applebaum's public speaking style, which they describe as "wrist-slittingly depressing" and designed to instill fear. They argue his claims about the NSA having "13 ways" to spy for every 10 known methods are subjective and lack concrete proof.

Keywords: [jacob applebaum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacob-applebaum.md), [sexuality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexuality.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md), kink.com, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Tailored Access Operations, Global Surveillance Scale (1:45:49–1:49:43)

Jacob Applebaum's claims regarding the NSA's Tailored Access Operations (TAO) and "planetary strategic surveillance" are scrutinized. The hosts point out that much of what Applebaum presents as "leaked" information, such as the existence of the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), is actually available on Wikipedia. They characterize his presentation as a psychological operation targeting the tech community.

Keywords: tailored access operations, [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), planetary surveillance, [nro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nro.md), [wikipedia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikipedia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Redaction Ethics, Drone Murder Claims (1:49:43–1:54:06)

During his speech, Jacob Applebaum admitted to redacting the names of agents involved in "drone murder" to ensure continued publication. The hosts argue that if he possesses evidence of actual criminal activity and murder, he has a moral and legal obligation to expose the individuals responsible. They find his "balance" between protecting legitimate targets and exposing oppression to be indicative of an insider's perspective.

Keywords: [redaction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/redaction.md), [drone strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone-strikes.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), criminal activity, nsa victims

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/27.md)

### 28. QFire Technology, Packet Injection via Drones (1:54:06–1:58:36)

Applebaum describes "QFire" and "Turbine" as NSA tools used to inject packets and compromise routers. He claims the NSA uses drones to perform mass exploitation of WiFi signals from up to eight miles away. The hosts express technical skepticism regarding the feasibility of precise WiFi packet injection from such distances and altitudes, calling the drone claims unsubstantiated.

Keywords: qfire, packet injection, [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [wifi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wifi.md), speed of light

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Corporate Sabotage, Great Firewall of Earth (1:58:37–2:01:38)

The narrative that the NSA is actively sabotaging American companies like Microsoft and Apple by hoarding zero-day vulnerabilities is discussed. Applebaum compares the NSA's global surveillance reach to the "Great Firewall of China," calling it the "Great Firewall of Earth." The hosts argue this framing ignores the voluntary cooperation between these corporations and the intelligence community.

Keywords: [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), great firewall of china, software vulnerabilities

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Bareback Internet Joke, CNN Imperialism Comments (2:01:39–2:06:17)

Jacob Applebaum's use of a "bareback" sexual metaphor to describe unencrypted internet use is criticized as being in poor taste. Furthermore, his claim that "Republicans read CNN before they wage illegal imperialist wars" is dismissed as a partisan distraction that ignores the role of Democratic administrations in military conflicts. The hosts suggest these comments undermine his credibility as an objective researcher.

Keywords: bareback, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [imperialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imperialism.md), [political bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-bias.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/30.md)

### 31. German Intelligence Interests, Yahoo Impersonation Claims (2:06:18–2:11:01)

A theory is proposed that Applebaum and Poitras may be working in the interest of German intelligence, given the focus on the spying of Angela Merkel. Applebaum claims the NSA impersonates Yahoo servers to "own" users, specifically targeting those he deems less security-conscious. The hosts suggest this is a tactic to pressure tech companies into supporting specific political or financial agendas.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [angela merkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-merkel.md), [yahoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yahoo.md), [industrial espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/industrial-espionage.md), [five eyes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/five-eyes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Tech Company Collaboration, PRISM Program Timeline (2:11:02–2:16:33)

The hosts discuss the timeline of Apple's entry into the PRISM program, noting it occurred shortly after the death of Steve Jobs. They suggest that Glenn Greenwald's reporting may be a "putsch" designed to discredit certain agents while covering for the CIA's deeper activities. The segment highlights the perceived "fascist" collaboration between the government and major Silicon Valley firms.

Keywords: [prism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prism.md), [tim cook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-cook.md), [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/32.md)

### 33. iPhone Backdoor Allegations, Dropout Jeep Exploit (2:16:33–2:20:56)

Applebaum presents a slide for an exploit called "Dropout Jeep," which allegedly allows the NSA to retrieve SMS logs, contact lists, and activate the microphone on iPhones. While Applebaum suggests Apple might just write "shitty software," the hosts argue that most large software companies include remote access capabilities for diagnostic purposes that are easily co-opted by intelligence agencies.

Keywords: dropout jeep, [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), sms retrieval, remote microphone, software exploits

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Industrial Espionage, Zero-Day Exploit Policy (2:20:58–2:24:59)

The discussion posits that the NSA's primary function is industrial espionage to benefit American corporate interests. Contrary to Applebaum's claims about a presidential advisory board, the hosts note that the government's actual policy supports the hoarding of zero-day exploits for use without court warrants. They argue that the "Huawei taint" is being applied to American companies through these leaks.

Keywords: [industrial espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/industrial-espionage.md), [zero-day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zero-day.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/34.md)

### 35. CTX 4000, Continuous Wave Radar Cancer Claims (2:25:00–2:28:52)

Applebaum suggests that the NSA's "CTX 4000" continuous wave radar device could be responsible for Hugo Chavez's cancer by radiating individuals with high-power RF energy. One host, a licensed amateur radio operator, dismisses this as "bullshit," explaining that the power levels described (up to 1 kilowatt) are standard in amateur radio and would not cause cancer from a distance.

Keywords: ctx 4000, rf energy, [hugo chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hugo-chavez.md), [cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancer.md), [radar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radar.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Distraction Narratives, Corporate NSA Integration (2:28:53–2:32:53)

The hosts conclude that the focus on technical "exploits" and "hacks" is a distraction from the reality that major corporations like AT&T, Verizon, Google, and Facebook *are* the NSA's database. They argue that the intelligence community does not need to "hack" these systems because they have direct, integrated access. Applebaum is characterized as protecting these corporate interests by focusing on low-level technicalities.

Keywords: [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [verizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verizon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Sponsor segment: Listener Donations, Global Warming Skepticism (2:32:55–2:38:19)

The show processes a final round of donations from students and international listeners. A note from a political science major mentions a debate regarding "global warming" and the "Rich Kids of Instagram" being stuck in ice. The hosts thank the "producers" for providing the financial support that allows for independent analysis of tech and media narratives.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), rich kids of instagram, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), student donors

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Cloud Backup Risks, Carbonite Advertising Influence (2:38:20–2:44:13)

The hosts question why the tech community promotes slow, over-the-air cloud backup services like Carbonite when local 4-terabyte hard drives are inexpensive and faster. They suggest that tech publications avoid critical analysis of cloud security because these companies are major advertisers. A "theater of the mind" segment illustrates how advertisers can exert pressure on media outlets to silence dissent.

Keywords: [carbonite](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbonite.md), cloud backup, [hard drives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hard-drives.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Potassium Iodide Orders, Slingbox Technical Issues (2:44:14–2:46:52)

The Department of Health and Human Services has reportedly ordered 14 million doses of potassium iodide to be delivered by February 2014. This news is linked to ongoing concerns about radiation from Fukushima. On a personal note, a host discusses technical difficulties maintaining "Slingbox" connections in various international locations, including Australia and London.

Keywords: potassium iodide, [hhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hhs.md), [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [slingbox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slingbox.md), [fukushima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fukushima.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/39.md)

### 40. White House Student Film Festival, STEM Education (2:46:52–2:49:19)

The White House has announced its first-ever Student Film Festival, promoted by Bill Nye "The Science Guy." The festival encourages K-12 students to create short videos about how they use technology to learn Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM). The hosts criticize the initiative as a marketing tool for "Common Core" and the "slavish" focus on technical skills over arts.

Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [film festival](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/film-festival.md), [stem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stem.md), [bill nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), [common core](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/common-core.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Louisiana Shooting Spree, Bullying Fractal Theory (2:49:20–2:54:14)

A shooting spree in Louisiana involving 38-year-old Ben Freeman resulted in the deaths of his wife, former mother-in-law, and a hospital administrator. The hosts propose a "fractal" theory, suggesting that adult workplace and domestic violence often stem from the same "bullying" dynamics seen in schools, yet the media refuses to apply the bullying label to non-minority or non-LGBTQ cases.

Keywords: [louisiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louisiana.md), shooting spree, [bullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bullying.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md), ben freeman

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Target Data Breach, Short Selling Suspicions (2:54:14–2:57:28)

Following the massive data breach at Target, the hosts speculate whether there was significant short selling of the company's stock prior to the public announcement. They suggest that intelligence agencies or "the mob" could use such breaches to manipulate stock prices for profit. A request is made for a financial expert to analyze the trading charts for suspicious activity.

Keywords: [target](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/target.md), [data breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-breach.md), [short selling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/short-selling.md), [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Vietnam War Lies, Daniel Ellsberg Documentary (2:57:28–3:02:44)

A documentary featuring Daniel Ellsberg outlines how five successive presidential administrations—from Truman to Nixon—lied to the American public about the Vietnam War. The discussion covers the Tonkin Gulf incident and the true economic motivations for the conflict, such as tungsten and oil. The hosts draw parallels between these historical lies and modern justifications for military involvement in the Middle East and Africa.

Keywords: [daniel ellsberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-ellsberg.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), [pentagon papers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon-papers.md), [lyndon johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyndon-johnson.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Palestinian Ambassador Death, Show Outro (3:02:45–3:05:50)

The Palestinian Ambassador to the Czech Republic, Jamal al-Jamal, was killed by an explosive booby trap while opening a safe in his Prague residence. The safe had reportedly been untouched for 20 years. The show concludes with a preview of upcoming topics for the Sunday broadcast, including deconstructions of events in Turkey and Russia.

Keywords: [palestine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palestine.md), [czech republic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/czech-republic.md), booby trap, [prague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prague.md), jamal al-jamal

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/579-warren-melinda-i/chapter/44.md)

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