# Bots & Girls!

> International bodies clash over Dutch holiday traditions while intelligence agencies and education reformers face a growing wave of public and political pushback.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 566
- **Published:** 2013-11-17
- **Length:** 2h 23m
- **Topics:** [Black Pete](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-pete.md), [Common Core](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/common-core.md), Snowden Leaks, Bitcoin Volatility, CIA Database, [Sinterklaas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sinterklaas.md), Dark Wallet
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls

## About this episode

The Dutch government faces mounting international pressure as a United Nations representative formally labels the Sinterklaas tradition of Black Pete a perpetuation of racial stereotypes. While millions of local citizens have signed petitions to protect the custom, the BBC and other global outlets report a widening rift between cultural heritage and human rights standards. Meanwhile, Adam Curry reports from Amsterdam on the economic depression hitting the Netherlands, where the high exchange rate of the Euro and a collapsing publishing sector are driving massive job losses.

Intelligence chiefs from MI5, MI6, and GCHQ recently testified before UK lawmakers, claiming that leaks from Edward Snowden have caused irreparable damage to counter-terrorism efforts. In the United States, House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Rogers argues that Al-Qaeda now poses a greater threat to the homeland than it did prior to 9/11, citing the rise of decentralized networks and lone-wolf attackers. Simultaneously, the Wall Street Journal reports the CIA is utilizing the Patriot Act to build a massive database of international money transfers, mirroring the NSA's controversial phone record collection programs. In the education sector, parents in Oregon and Tennessee are revolting against Common Core standards, which critics claim replace traditional mathematics with confusing fact-family diagrams designed to produce an industrial-grade workforce.

John C. Dvorak recounts his cynical strategy for winning a Comdex chili cook-off by hiring showgirls to manipulate the public vote, drawing parallels to the modern futility of podcast awards. The hosts also examine the shift in CIA leadership toward a female-dominated workforce, jokingly dubbed the Sisterhood of Spies, and its potential role in shaping the political landscape for a 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential run.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/transcript.md.

### 1. German vs. Chinese Harmonicas and Amsterdam Arrival (0:00–1:28)

Adam Curry reports from Amsterdam while John C. Dvorak remains in Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak compares the sound quality of a Chinese-made harmonica to a German Hohner model, expressing dissatisfaction with the former. Curry describes his arrival in the Netherlands following a long flight from the United States.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), harmonicas, hohner, [travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/1.md)

### 2. TSA Pre-Check, Credit Scores, and Identity Theft (1:29–4:41)

Airport security protocols have shifted toward the TSA Pre-Check system, effectively removing traditional first-class priority lines for non-enrolled passengers. Concerns are raised regarding the integration of personal credit scores into security risk assessments. One host details a personal credit score collapse caused by a fraudulent AT&T U-verse account opened in Los Angeles.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [pre-check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-check.md), [credit scores](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-scores.md), [at&t u-verse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t-u-verse.md), [identity theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-theft.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Airline Electronics Policies and Coach Travel Economics (4:42–7:46)

Airlines have begun allowing the use of electronic devices in flight mode during all phases of travel. The experience of flying coach on Delta and KLM is contrasted with the high cost of international business class tickets, which can reach $3,500 per person. The value of "economy comfort" seating, providing an additional two inches of legroom, is noted as a necessary upgrade for tall travelers.

Keywords: [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), electronic devices, flight mode, airfare, [economy comfort](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy-comfort.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Airbnb, Uber, and Credibility Market Exchanges (7:47–10:40)

The global economy is shifting toward credibility market exchanges where user reviews dictate business success, as seen with Airbnb and Uber. These platforms grant consumers leverage over service providers through the threat of negative reviews while maintaining databases on customer behavior. This model is traced back to the original reputation system pioneered by eBay.

Keywords: [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [yelp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yelp.md), [ebay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebay.md), reputation systems, [sharing economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sharing-economy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/4.md)

### 5. VHS vs. Betamax, Sports Recording, and Porn Industry Innovation (10:40–13:10)

The victory of VHS over Sony's Betamax format is attributed to the longer recording times required for full sports games rather than the influence of the adult film industry. While the porn industry is often credited with driving technological adoption like live streaming and pop-up ads, the four-to-six-hour capacity of VHS tapes was the decisive factor for consumers.

Keywords: [vhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vhs.md), [betamax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/betamax.md), [sony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sony.md), sports recording, [porn industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/porn-industry.md), [technology history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology-history.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/5.md)

### 6. European Exchange Rates and Sinterklaas Traditions (13:12–14:36)

The high exchange rate of the Euro against the Dollar is significantly increasing the cost of travel and goods in Europe. The arrival of Sinterklaas in the Netherlands coincides with the ongoing international controversy regarding the traditional character of Black Pete.

Keywords: [euro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euro.md), [exchange rate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exchange-rate.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [sinterklaas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sinterklaas.md), [black pete](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-pete.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/6.md)

### 7. United Nations Criticism of Dutch Black Pete Tradition (14:36–19:25)

A United Nations representative has formally challenged the Dutch government, labeling the Black Pete tradition as a perpetuation of racial stereotypes. The BBC reported on the controversy, highlighting the conflict between cultural rights and human rights. Despite international pressure and predictions of the tradition's eventual demise, local support remains high with millions signing petitions to protect the custom.

Keywords: [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [black pete](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-pete.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), cultural traditions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Bitcoin Volatility and Listener Criticism (19:26–26:00)

The show addresses pushback from listeners regarding its skeptical stance on Bitcoin, which recently reached a price of $500. Critics argue that decentralized math-based assets are the future of value-for-value models, while the hosts maintain that high exchange fees and price volatility make it unsuitable for business operations. A listener email predicts a significant "flash crash" coinciding with upcoming Senate hearings on the Silk Road.

Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [mt. gox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mt-gox.md), [fiat currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiat-currency.md), speculative assets, [silk road](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silk-road.md), senate hearings

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Bitcoin as Speculative Stock vs. Functional Currency (26:01–29:55)

Bitcoin is characterized as a speculative vehicle rather than a stable currency due to its 20% price fluctuations within a single week. The difficulty of converting large amounts of Bitcoin into usable cash without significant fees or delays is highlighted. The behavior of Bitcoin proponents is compared to participants in penny stock "pump and dump" schemes.

Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), currency stability, [speculation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/speculation.md), [pump and dump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pump-and-dump.md), [market manipulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-manipulation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Encryption Backdoors and TrueCrypt Security (29:57–31:38)

Speculation arises regarding potential government backdoors in popular encryption software like TrueCrypt and its predecessor DriveCrypt. Claims are made that the NSA discouraged certain Swiss-developed encryption schemes, leading to their disappearance from commercial products.

Keywords: [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [truecrypt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truecrypt.md), drivecrypt, [rsa conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsa-conference.md), [backdoors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backdoors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Linus Torvalds and NSA Backdoor Inquiries (31:39–34:02)

During a European Parliament session, the father of Linus Torvalds suggested that his son had been approached by the NSA regarding backdoors in the Linux operating system. Torvalds reportedly responded "no" while nodding his head "yes," implying legal restrictions prevented a truthful verbal disclosure.

Keywords: [linus torvalds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linus-torvalds.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [linux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux.md), [european parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-parliament.md), [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [backdoors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backdoors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/11.md)

### 12. CIA International Money Transfer Database (34:02–35:30)

The Wall Street Journal reports that the CIA is building a massive database of international money transfers under the Patriot Act. This program, authorized by a secret National Security Court, mirrors the NSA's phone record collection and has drawn sharp criticism from European officials concerned about the privacy of their citizens' financial data.

Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [patriot act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-act.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), financial privacy, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Benghazi Investigation and CIA Non-Disclosure Agreements (35:30–37:44)

New reports suggest that CIA personnel involved in the Benghazi attack were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements and were relocated to prevent them from testifying. A memo involving CIA Director John Brennan and Representative Mike Rogers indicates a high level of internal pressure to ensure cooperation with scripted committee hearings.

Keywords: [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [mike rogers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rogers.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [non-disclosure agreements](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-disclosure-agreements.md), [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony (37:45–45:12)

The show acknowledges significant financial contributions from producers, including a $444.44 donation from James Crossett and $250 from Phillip Gorski. Gene Natulia is recognized for a "Make It Rain" donation. The hosts discuss the logistical challenges of managing listener titles and specific jingle requests within their small operation.

Keywords: james crossett, phillip gorski, gene natulia, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/14.md)

### 15. No Agenda Player Crowdsourced Tagging Initiative (45:12–46:47)

A new producer-led initiative at noagendaplayer.com allows users to navigate the podcast via tagged sections. The project seeks crowdsourced help for tagging segments to create a searchable resource, though the hosts note that such volunteer efforts often struggle with long-term sustainability.

Keywords: [noagendaplayer.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noagendaplayer-com.md), [crowdsourcing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdsourcing.md), [transcription](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transcription.md), [metadata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metadata.md), podcast tools

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/15.md)

### 16. China One-Child Policy and Labor Camp Abolition (46:48–50:41)

China has announced plans to ease its one-child policy and abolish its system of "re-education through labor" camps. Deutsche Welle reports that these camps have historically been used to imprison critics and minor offenders without trial. The hosts compare these facilities to the rise of private prisons and the treatment of the homeless in the United States.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [one-child policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/one-child-policy.md), labor camps, [deutsche welle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-welle.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), re-education

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/16.md)

### 17. UK Intelligence Chiefs and Snowden Leak Damage (50:43–53:07)

The heads of MI5, MI6, and GCHQ made a rare joint appearance before UK lawmakers to testify that leaks from Edward Snowden have significantly damaged counter-terrorism operations. They argue that terrorist groups are changing their behavior to evade detection, making it harder to thwart global threats.

Keywords: [mi5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi5.md), [mi6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi6.md), [gchq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gchq.md), [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/17.md)

### 18. IRA Bombings vs. Modern Global Terror Threats (53:07–55:45)

The current climate of global terror is contrasted with the era of IRA bombings in London during the 1980s and 90s. While the IRA threat involved frequent physical bombings and required public vigilance, modern intelligence agencies now emphasize a "global threat" from regions like Pakistan and Indonesia to justify expanded digital surveillance.

Keywords: [ira](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ira.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [vigilance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vigilance.md), [public safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-safety.md), [history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/history.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Mike Rogers and the Reinvented Al-Qaeda Threat (55:46–59:06)

House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Rogers claims that Al-Qaeda poses a greater threat to the U.S. homeland now than it did before 9/11. Rogers argues that the rise of "lone wolf" attackers and affiliates in Africa makes this the wrong time to scale back NSA surveillance programs.

Keywords: [mike rogers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rogers.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [lone wolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-wolf.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Abu Musab al-Suri as the New Bin Laden (59:06–1:01:24)

Syrian operative Abu Musab al-Suri is being framed by some analysts as the "next Bin Laden" due to his advocacy for decentralized jihadi networks. However, CNN analyst Peter Bergen disputes this characterization, stating that al-Suri lacks the leadership charisma and assets of the late Al-Qaeda leader.

Keywords: abu musab al-suri, [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [peter bergen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-bergen.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Adobe Data Breach and Password Security (1:01:26–1:02:58)

The FBI has issued warnings for users to change passwords following a massive data breach at Adobe that compromised three million accounts. The breach is particularly concerning for government agencies that rely on Adobe's PDF products and cloud services.

Keywords: [adobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobe.md), [data breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-breach.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [passwords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passwords.md), cloud services, [omniture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omniture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Global Child Pornography Bust and Investigation Delays (1:02:58–1:07:53)

A three-year international investigation led by Canadian police resulted in 350 arrests related to a massive child pornography ring centered in Toronto. The ring, which operated since 2005, involved teachers, doctors, and law enforcement personnel. Questions are raised regarding why it took eight years to shut down a site that generated millions in revenue while intelligence agencies possess vast surveillance capabilities.

Keywords: [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md), [investigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investigation.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Institutional Corruption and the Joris Demink Case (1:07:54–1:10:25)

The investigation into Joris Demink, a high-ranking official in the Dutch Justice Department, highlights concerns regarding institutional protection of high-level offenders. A judge has finally ordered the opening of files related to the case, suggesting that government departments may have been complicit in stifling previous inquiries.

Keywords: [joris demink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joris-demink.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), [child protection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-protection.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Ransomware and Bitcoin Extortion (1:10:26–1:13:45)

New forms of "extortion-ware" are forcing victims to pay in Bitcoin to unlock their encrypted files, with some malware even providing instructions on how to acquire the digital currency. The hosts suggest that the anonymity of Bitcoin makes it a primary tool for these criminal activities.

Keywords: [ransomware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ransomware.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [extortion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/extortion.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [cybercrime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybercrime.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Podcast Awards and Dvorak's Chili Cook-off Strategy (1:13:46–1:18:34)

John C. Dvorak recounts winning a "People's Choice" chili cook-off at Comdex by hiring showgirls to solicit votes, illustrating his cynical view of public voting contests. The hosts discuss the futility of competing in modern podcast awards without the use of voting bots or similar aggressive marketing tactics.

Keywords: [podcast awards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-awards.md), [comdex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comdex.md), [chili cook-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chili-cook-off.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [voting bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-bots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Typhoon Haiyan Aid and Geopolitical Maneuvering (1:18:35–1:22:40)

The U.S. has committed $20 million in aid to the Philippines following Typhoon Haiyan, deploying the USS George Washington aircraft carrier to the region. The hosts argue that the military presence is a strategic move to counter Chinese influence in the South China Sea. Comparisons are made to the 2010 Haiti earthquake, where billions in aid allegedly failed to reach victims effectively.

Keywords: [typhoon haiyan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/typhoon-haiyan.md), [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [uss george washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uss-george-washington.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Economic Depression and Publishing Industry in the Netherlands (1:22:40–1:26:41)

The Netherlands is reportedly facing high levels of depression and joblessness, particularly within the publishing sector where layoffs are frequent. In contrast, blogger Andrew Sullivan has successfully transitioned to a self-sustaining subscription model, earning over $700,000 independently.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), joblessness, [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md), [andrew sullivan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-sullivan.md), [blogging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blogging.md), [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/27.md)

### 28. The Future of Digital Advertising and Magazine Failures (1:26:41–1:30:16)

Publishers in the Netherlands are debating the shift of advertising revenue from print to digital platforms like the iPad. The hosts express skepticism about the future of internet advertising, citing the prevalence of bots and the "bull crap" nature of digital inventory.

Keywords: [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [digital media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-media.md), [magazines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magazines.md), [volkskrant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volkskrant.md), quote magazine, [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Stripper Jingle Performance and Stage Names (1:30:17–1:32:32)

The hosts perform a series of "Make It Rain" jingles featuring fictional stage names like Uma, Mercedes, and Dr. Katya. These segments are used to acknowledge specific listener donations in a theatrical, high-energy style.

Keywords: uma, [mercedes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercedes.md), katya, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production.md), [humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Associate Executive Producer Donations and Birthday Shoutouts (1:32:33–1:40:57)

A long list of donations is read, including contributions from Mike Mugla, Sam Lung, and Heather Simkin. The hosts also acknowledge several listener birthdays and remind producers to check their PayPal subscriptions, which often expire without notice.

Keywords: mike mugla, [sam lung](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-lung.md), heather simkin, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Hillary Clinton 2016 and Wonder Woman Movie Theory (1:40:59–1:42:58)

A theory is presented suggesting that DC Comics will release a Wonder Woman movie in 2016 to subconsciously bolster Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. This is viewed as part of a broader media effort to promote strong female figures ahead of the election.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [dc comics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dc-comics.md), [wonder woman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wonder-woman.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/31.md)

### 32. CIA Gender Shift and The Sisterhood of Spies (1:42:58–1:45:21)

For the first time, nearly half of the CIA's workforce is female, with women occupying several top leadership roles. A media report titled "The Sisterhood of Spies" highlights this shift, which the hosts interpret as a way to soften the agency's image or prepare the political landscape for a female president.

Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), women in intelligence, fran moore, sue gordon, [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Secret Service Scandals and Chris Christie Health Rumors (1:45:22–1:46:55)

The U.S. Secret Service is facing allegations of sexual misconduct across 17 countries. Meanwhile, speculation arises that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie may face a health "scare" or orchestrated incident to remove him as a viable Republican threat to Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Keywords: [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md), [chris christie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-christie.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [misconduct](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misconduct.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Common Core Standards and Industrial Model Schooling (1:46:56–1:52:14)

Common Core education standards, funded largely by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, are criticized for being designed to create "drones" for an industrial workforce. A high school student in Tennessee points out that the standards were drafted by testing executives rather than academic specialists. Parents report that the new methods, such as "number lines" and "fact families," are causing student grades to plummet.

Keywords: [common core](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/common-core.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [tennessee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tennessee.md), [education reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education-reform.md), [math](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/math.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Parent Backlash Against Common Core Math (1:52:17–1:55:00)

In Oregon, groups of parents are pulling their children out of public school math classes due to the stress and failing grades caused by Common Core. U.S. Secretary of Education Arnie Duncan dismissed these concerns, suggesting that "white suburban moms" are simply upset to find their children aren't as brilliant as they thought.

Keywords: [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md), arnie duncan, [math](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/math.md), [homeschooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeschooling.md), [education policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education-policy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Flipped Classrooms and Fact Family Math Diagrams (1:55:02–1:57:35)

The "flipped classroom" model is being implemented in Washington state, where students watch video lessons at home on iPads and do their homework in class. The hosts mock the "fact family" method of teaching multiplication and division, arguing it replaces actual understanding with rote formulaic diagrams.

Keywords: mercer island, flipped classroom, [ipad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipad.md), [math](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/math.md), fact families

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Common Core as a Barrier to Higher Education (1:57:39–2:03:05)

The hosts conclude that Common Core is a "robot training" system intended to keep the next generation out of elite universities. Because top-tier colleges still teach traditional mathematics, students trained in Common Core "fact families" will be unable to pass standard calculus courses, effectively creating a permanent lower-tier workforce.

Keywords: college prep, [calculus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calculus.md), [brown university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brown-university.md), [stem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stem.md), robot training

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Programming Logic vs. Modern Educational Gimmicks (2:03:06–2:05:31)

The hosts reminisce about learning the BASIC programming language in school, which taught logical thinking and debugging skills. They contrast this with modern educational "gimmicks" like fact families, which they label as more dangerous to the country's future than Al-Qaeda.

Keywords: [basic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/basic.md), [programming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/programming.md), [logic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logic.md), debugging, [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Cody Wilson and the Dark Wallet Bitcoin Project (2:05:32–2:10:22)

Cody Wilson, known for the first 3D printed gun, has launched a Kickstarter for "Dark Wallet," a Bitcoin tool designed for anonymity and privacy. The project, led by Amir Taki, aims to create a software stack independent of government regulation. The hosts remain skeptical, placing Wilson in a "bucket of bullcrap" for his history of high-profile PR stunts.

Keywords: cody worldon, 3d printed gun, [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), dark wallet, amir taki, [kickstarter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kickstarter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Lavabit Security Flaws and the Dark Mail Initiative (2:10:23–2:13:42)

The closure of the Lavabit email service is re-examined, with claims that the service was fundamentally insecure because it relied on a single master key for all accounts. The founder's subsequent "Dark Mail" initiative is viewed as a distraction from the fact that the original system could be easily compromised by the government.

Keywords: [lavabit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lavabit.md), [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), dark mail, ssh keys, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Herbal Supplement Fraud and Breastfeeding Controversies (2:13:42–2:16:15)

DNA testing in Canada revealed that one-third of herbal supplements contained no trace of the advertised plants, often being replaced by fillers like rice. In the UK, the government is offering low-income mothers $200 to breastfeed, while in Pennsylvania, a judge ordered a mother to stop breastfeeding so her child could visit the father.

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), dna barcoding, herbal supplements, [breastfeeding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breastfeeding.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md), [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Salt and Sleep Apnea, French Trucker Protests (2:16:16–2:17:32)

Brazilian researchers are investigating a link between high salt intake and sleep apnea, suggesting that fluid buildup in the neck causes snoring. In France, thousands of truckers are blocking highways to protest a planned "eco tax" on heavy goods vehicles.

Keywords: [salt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salt.md), [sleep apnea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sleep-apnea.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [truckers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truckers.md), eco tax

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Larry Flynt on the Death Penalty and Public Executions (2:17:32–2:20:07)

Hustler publisher Larry Flynt argues against the death penalty, stating it is not a deterrent and citing 18th-century England where pickpocketing continued even during public hangings. The hosts jokingly suggest that public executions would make for high-rated reality television.

Keywords: [larry flynt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-flynt.md), [death penalty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-penalty.md), [hustler magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hustler-magazine.md), [justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/43.md)

### 44. High School USA Clips and Show Outro (2:20:08–2:23:38)

The show concludes with clips from the animated series "High School USA" on Fox, featuring satirical takes on virginity, George H.W. Bush, and Shabbat rituals. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, noting their upcoming schedule changes for the Thursday episode.

Keywords: [fox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox.md), [high school usa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-school-usa.md), shabbat, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/566-bots-girls/chapter/44.md)

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