# Kalemia

> A massive legislative deal ends the federal shutdown while fueling local pork projects as new billionaire-backed media ventures and invasive genetic data harvesting redefine the global landscape.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 557
- **Published:** 2013-10-17
- **Length:** 2h 50m
- **Topics:** [Pork Barrel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pork-barrel.md), Queensland Bikers, Omidyar Venture, Kalemia, [Silk Road](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silk-road.md), [IBM Watson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ibm-watson.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia

## About this episode

Senator Mitch McConnell secured nearly $3 billion in funding for a Kentucky project as part of the deal to end the 2013 government shutdown, highlighting the return of pork barrel spending under the guise of fiscal resolution. The legislative package, which raised the debt ceiling through February 7th, included back pay for federal employees and extended authority for the Secret Service to fund undercover operations. President Barack Obama’s subsequent address is scrutinized for performative language that signals a widening trust gap between the electorate and the federal government.

In Queensland, Australia, the Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Bill targets motorcycle gangs but contains broad definitions that could criminalize any group of three or more people. Meanwhile, eBay founder Pierre Omidyar is launching a $250 million media venture with Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, raising questions about the independence of billionaire-funded journalism. In the technology sector, IBM Watson is being positioned to replace primary care doctors, while the genetic testing firm 23andMe faces criticism for using health reports as a front for massive DNA data harvesting.

Denise Reitnauer, a House of Representatives stenographer, was forcibly removed from the floor after a shouting outburst regarding Freemasons and the Constitution during the final shutdown vote. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak introduce the "Kalemia" phenomenon to describe the humorless state of health-obsessed shoppers at Whole Foods. The program also honors Sir Craig Porter in a traditional knighting ceremony, contrasting the value-for-value model against the corporate underwriting of NPR.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/transcript.md.

### 1. Travis Heights Sickbay, Dastardly Flu and Valley Fever (0:00–4:39)

Adam Curry reports from the Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas, where his partner, Miss Mickey, is suffering from a severe illness she describes as the "dastardly flu." John C. Dvorak suggests the symptoms might be Valley Fever, a fungal infection caused by spores in the California Central Valley, while Curry notes the local prevalence of Cedar Fever. The hosts discuss the challenges of managing a household when a partner is incapacitated by illness and delirium.

Keywords: [travis heights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travis-heights.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), valley fever, [cedar fever](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cedar-fever.md), dastardly flu, [miss mickey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-mickey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Thank You for Your Courage, Meme Origins (4:40–6:20)

The hosts discuss the rapid adoption of the phrase "Thank you for your courage" as the new primary meme of the program. They explore using the phrase in everyday life, particularly as a way to disorient street solicitors and opinion seekers. The expression has become a standard opening for listener emails and a recurring theme in host interactions.

Keywords: courage, [meme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meme.md), solicitors, [social etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-etiquette.md), [catchphrase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catchphrase.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Government Shutdown Resolution, Legislative Process and Power of the Purse (6:21–11:48)

John C. Dvorak provides a constitutional analysis of the 2013 government shutdown, explaining the "power of the purse" defined in Article 1, Section 8. The discussion centers on how the House of Representatives attempted to defund the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and how the Senate and President Obama ultimately forced a resolution. The hosts characterize the event as a scripted crisis where leadership played along with various factions to demonstrate political futility.

Keywords: [government shutdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government-shutdown.md), boehner, [obamacare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obamacare.md), article one, power of the purse, [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Project Funding and Pork Barrel Spending (11:49–13:24)

Senator Mitch McConnell reportedly secured nearly $3 billion in funding for a project in his home state as part of the deal to end the government shutdown. The hosts analyze how the deal was structured to make it appear as though Democrats requested the funding to save taxpayer money on a previously canceled project. This is cited as a primary example of how legislative crises are used to facilitate "pork barrel" spending for senior politicians.

Keywords: [mitch mcconnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitch-mcconnell.md), [pork barrel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pork-barrel.md), [funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funding.md), [kentucky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kentucky.md), legislative deals

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Federal Spending Provisions, Back Pay and Kony 2012 (13:25–16:57)

The resolution to the government shutdown included several specific provisions, such as backdating pay for furloughed federal employees to October 1st. Other notable inclusions in the legislation involve funding for the Food for Peace Act and extended authority to counter the Lord's Resistance Army, referencing the Kony 2012 movement. The bill also grants the Secret Service authority to apply proceeds from undercover investigations toward their operations.

Keywords: back pay, food for peace, lord's resistance army, kony, [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md), cola

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/5.md)

### 6. State Representation, Ted Cruz and Texas Identity (16:58–19:21)

The hosts debate the role of state representatives in securing federal funds, with Adam Curry expressing support for the idea of representatives fighting for their specific states. They critique Senator Ted Cruz's public persona and political ambitions, labeling him as condescending. The discussion highlights a growing sense of regionalism and dissatisfaction with unspecified federal programs managed by Homeland Security.

Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), federal programs, [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), state representatives

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/6.md)

### 7. MSNBC Media Coverage, Thomas Roberts and Marsha Blackburn (19:21–21:09)

MSNBC host Thomas Roberts is criticized for his aggressive interview style with Republican Representative Marsha Blackburn regarding the government shutdown. Roberts questioned whether Blackburn hated the Affordable Care Act more than she loved her country, a framing the hosts describe as blatant propaganda. The segment explores the declining quality of cable news and the performative nature of political media.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), thomas roberts, [marsha blackburn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marsha-blackburn.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Women in Politics, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Gender Memes (21:09–23:26)

Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz suggested that if women were in charge of the House, the government shutdown would have been resolved in hours. This sentiment became a recurring media meme, crediting female Senators like Susan Collins for the eventual deal. The hosts mock the idea as a sexist political strategy aimed at future elections and discuss Peter King's response involving Sarah Palin.

Keywords: [debbie wasserman schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-wasserman-schultz.md), [susan collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-collins.md), [sarah palin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-palin.md), [gender politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-politics.md), senate women

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Budget Control Act, Debt Ceiling and John McCain (23:28–26:29)

The Budget Control Act framework, led by Senator Susan Collins, funded the government for three months and raised the debt ceiling through February 7th. Senator John McCain described the shutdown as a "shameful chapter" for the Senate, while Senator Ted Cruz maintained his opposition to the final vote. The hosts predict that the same political crisis will repeat in early 2014.

Keywords: budget control act, [debt ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [susan collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-collins.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/9.md)

### 10. New Zealand Scaffolding, Investment Opportunities and Cultural Differences (26:31–29:55)

A story about a New Zealand masseuse leads to a discussion about the construction industry in Christchurch following major earthquakes. The government has reportedly monopolized the supply of scaffolding for public buildings, creating a shortage for private development. The hosts jokingly consider investing in the scaffolding business while also discussing cultural differences in social attitudes between New Zealand and the United States.

Keywords: [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), [christchurch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christchurch.md), scaffolding, [construction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/construction.md), [investment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investment.md), [green card](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-card.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Barack Obama, Performative Language and Public Trust (29:56–33:06)

President Barack Obama's speech following the shutdown resolution is analyzed for its use of "performatives"—phrases like "I've said it before and I'll say it again" that signal a lack of sincerity. The hosts compare his rhetorical style to Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan, arguing that his claims of being eager to work with Republicans are contradicted by his political actions. The segment focuses on the loss of trust between the government and the public.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [performatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/performatives.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [public trust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-trust.md), [political rhetoric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-rhetoric.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Financial Market Codes, Senator Mikulski and Bond Trading (33:06–35:45)

Senator Barbara Mikulski's repeated use of the number "33" during a floor speech is interpreted as a potential coded signal for financial markets. The hosts discuss a specific spike in the bond market that occurred shortly after the speech, suggesting that insiders could have made significant profits by timing trades around the legislative countdown. They lament missing the opportunity to capitalize on these perceived signals.

Keywords: [barbara mikulski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-mikulski.md), [bond market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bond-market.md), [33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/33.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trading.md), [default](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/default.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Day Trading, Professional Poker and Annie Duke (35:45–39:05)

The hosts discuss the lifestyle and financial realities of professional day trading and poker playing. They reference professional poker player Annie Duke and the physical toll that long hours of sedentary competition can take on a person. The conversation concludes that while these professions can be lucrative, they are often "rigged" or require an obsessive level of focus that detracts from quality of life.

Keywords: [day trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/day-trading.md), [poker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poker.md), annie duke, [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md), [gambling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gambling.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Congressional Stenographer Outburst, Freemasons and the Constitution (39:05–42:48)

A House of Representatives stenographer, identified as Denise Reitnauer, was removed from the floor after a shouting outburst during the shutdown vote. She reportedly yelled about the Constitution not being written by Freemasons and the inability to serve two masters. The hosts compare different audio recordings of the event, noting discrepancies between the official House feed and recordings made by reporters in the hallway.

Keywords: [stenographer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stenographer.md), denise reitnauer, [freemasons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freemasons.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [house floor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-floor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Security Incidents, Miriam Carey and Profiling (42:49–46:22)

The hosts compare the treatment of the shouting stenographer to the fatal shooting of Miriam Carey outside the Capitol, questioning why one was handled peacefully while the other resulted in death. They discuss the potential role of psychiatric drugs like Abilify in recent public outbursts and note a shift in the demographic profile of individuals involved in high-profile security incidents at government sites.

Keywords: miriam carey, navy yard, [abilify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abilify.md), [profiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profiling.md), sergeant at arms

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Media Sentiment, Mystery Diners and Oreo Addiction (46:23–49:23)

The segment contrasts "feel-good" news stories, such as a mystery diner paying for a stranger's meal, with a scientific study from Connecticut College claiming Oreos are as addictive as cocaine. The study found that eating Oreos activated more neurons in the pleasure centers of rats' brains than exposure to drugs. The hosts mock the enthusiastic delivery of these stories by news anchors.

Keywords: mystery diner, [oreos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oreos.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), connecticut college, [rats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rats.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/16.md)

### 17. The Fifth Estate, Julian Assange and Ethical Filmmaking (49:23–53:03)

Julian Assange criticized the film *The Fifth Estate*, calling it a "cartoon baddie" portrayal of his life and work. In an interview with George Stephanopoulos, Assange argued that the filmmakers were irresponsible and failed to contribute to the WikiLeaks legal defense fund. The hosts discuss Assange's frustration with the dramatization of his organization and his personal life.

Keywords: [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), the fifth estate, [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [benedict cumberbatch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benedict-cumberbatch.md), [dreamworks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dreamworks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Sarah Harrison, Edward Snowden and WikiLeaks Relationships (53:04–58:40)

The discussion turns to Sarah Harrison, a key WikiLeaks staffer currently in Russia with Edward Snowden. Julian Assange defends Harrison's role in securing Snowden's asylum while the hosts speculate on the personal dynamics within the group. Assange characterizes the surveillance apparatus in the West as a threat to democracy, comparing it to the goals of East Germany.

Keywords: [sarah harrison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-harrison.md), [edward snowden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/edward-snowden.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [asylum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asylum.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Investigative Journalism, Exile and Global Surveillance (58:41–1:02:32)

Julian Assange argues that the "best and brightest" investigative journalists, such as Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, are being forced into effective exile to continue their work. The hosts discuss the irony of journalists having to leave Western democracies to report on those same governments. They jokingly consider their own "effective exile" in Texas and their offices.

Keywords: [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [laura poitras](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-poitras.md), [exile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exile.md), [investigative journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investigative-journalism.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/19.md)

### 20. No Agenda Art, Karma Generator and Grand Duke Stephen (1:02:32–1:05:13)

The hosts acknowledge the creative contributions of the "No Agenda" community, including artist Patrick Bausch and app developer Ron Boyd. They celebrate a significant donation from Grand Duke Stephen Pelsmacher of Belgium, who contributed 666.66 in honor of the show's upcoming sixth anniversary. The segment highlights the "value-for-value" model and the support of the show's "Knights and Dames."

Keywords: patrick bausch, ron boyd, karma generator, [stephen pelsmacher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-pelsmacher.md), [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Vaping Industry, FDA Regulation and Pfizer (1:05:14–1:11:32)

An executive producer from the vaping industry provides an update on pending FDA regulations that could classify electronic cigarettes as tobacco products. The discussion explores the conflict between the vaping industry and pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer, which manufactures the smoking cessation drug Chantix. The hosts examine the financial ties between Big Pharma and various health advocacy groups that oppose vaping.

Keywords: [vaping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaping.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [chantix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chantix.md), [nicotine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicotine.md), [tobacco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tobacco.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Listener Feedback, Kale Overdose and Gender Dynamics (1:11:34–1:14:39)

A listener from South Australia writes in about her husband's reaction to the show's stance on kale, leading to a discussion about the "misogynistic" reputation of the program and how it affects couples. The hosts grant "meat karma" to a husband suffering from a "kale overdose." The segment explores the cultural divide between listeners and their skeptical spouses.

Keywords: [kale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kale.md), [south australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-australia.md), double speak, [marriage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marriage.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Whole Foods Culture, Hipsters and Kalemia (1:14:40–1:17:58)

Adam Curry describes his experience at a Whole Foods market, observing the "hipster" clientele and the unhappy demeanor of health-conscious shoppers. He coins the term "Kalemia" to describe a perceived condition among long-term vegans characterized by poor skin quality and a loss of humor. The hosts discuss the "creepy" atmosphere of modern high-end grocery stores.

Keywords: [whole foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whole-foods.md), [hipsters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipsters.md), [kale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kale.md), kalemia, [veganism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veganism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Value for Value Model, ITM Box and Show Anniversary (1:17:58–1:20:27)

The hosts explain the "value-for-value" model of the show and promote the ITM Box, a new crowdfunding platform for media projects. They confirm that the show's sixth anniversary falls on October 26th. This segment serves as a call for continued listener support and a reminder of the various ways to contribute to the program's infrastructure.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), itm box, [anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anniversary.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [media funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Queensland Biker Laws, Motorcycle Gang Crackdown and Civil Liberties (1:20:27–1:24:20)

The Australian state of Queensland is introducing strict new laws targeting "outlaw motorcycle gangs" following a series of violent incidents. The legislation includes crushing the motorcycles of convicted gang members and banning them from owning tattoo parlors. The hosts question the severity of the crackdown given the relatively low number of gang-related fatalities over the last 30 years.

Keywords: [queensland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queensland.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), biker gangs, [hells angels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hells-angels.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Bill, Slave Training in Australia (1:24:22–1:29:35)

A detailed analysis of the "Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Bill" in Queensland reveals that the law applies to any group of three or more people, not just biker gangs. The hosts argue that the broad definitions could criminalize social clubs, such as knitting or book clubs, if any member is deemed a "vicious lawless associate." They characterize the bill as a "slave act" that severely curtails freedom of association.

Keywords: [queensland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queensland.md), association laws, [civil rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-rights.md), [slave training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slave-training.md), [criminal code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/criminal-code.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Pierre Omidyar, Glenn Greenwald and New Media Ventures (1:29:38–1:35:22)

eBay founder Pierre Omidyar is launching a new $250 million news venture featuring Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras, and Jeremy Scahill. The hosts discuss Greenwald's departure from *The Guardian* and express skepticism about the sustainability of a publication funded by a billionaire. They compare the venture to previous high-budget media failures like *Portfolio* and *Salon*.

Keywords: [pierre omidyar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-omidyar.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [ebay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebay.md), [the guardian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-guardian.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Billionaire Agendas, Independent Journalism and Spontaneous Combustion (1:35:23–1:40:49)

The hosts debate whether independent journalists like Glenn Greenwald are compromising their integrity by aligning with billionaire Pierre Omidyar. They note Omidyar's connections to other wealthy activists like Jeffrey Skoll and question if the new venture will avoid certain topics like climate change skepticism. A brief tangent occurs regarding the mechanics of spontaneous human combustion during a technical interruption.

Keywords: [pierre omidyar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-omidyar.md), jeffrey skoll, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [spontaneous human combustion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spontaneous-human-combustion.md), [big data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Andrew Sullivan, The Dish and Media Monetization (1:40:51–1:44:42)

The discussion shifts to Andrew Sullivan's "The Dish" as a model for independent media monetization through direct subscriptions. The hosts wonder why Glenn Greenwald didn't pursue a similar independent path rather than joining a corporate-style network. They also compare the public personas of Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill, noting Scahill's more "entertaining" and alarmist style.

Keywords: [andrew sullivan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-sullivan.md), the dish, [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [jeremy scahill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeremy-scahill.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Chelsea Clinton, BBC News Hour and Media Influence (1:44:44–1:46:14)

Chelsea Clinton served as a special guest editor for the BBC's *News Hour* as part of the "100 Women" season. The hosts criticize the move as an example of the "embedded" nature of political dynasties in mainstream media. They argue that such appointments undermine the perceived prestige and objectivity of established news programs.

Keywords: [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [news hour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/news-hour.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), guest editor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Wells Fargo, Child Savings and Bank Marketing (1:46:15–1:48:59)

A local news segment on KION featuring a Wells Fargo representative is mocked for its "idiotic" advice on child savings. The representative suggested that the best time for a child to start saving is at birth, despite infants having no concept of money. The hosts view the segment as a thinly veiled commercial for the bank rather than legitimate financial news.

Keywords: [wells fargo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wells-fargo.md), kion, child savings, bank marketing, [financial advice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-advice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Chase Sapphire Card, Metal Credit Cards and Cash Restrictions (1:49:00–1:50:37)

The hosts discuss the marketing of the Chase Sapphire card, a metal credit card designed to mimic the prestige of the American Express Black card. They also note new banking restrictions, such as Chase limiting cash deposits for certain business accounts. The conversation highlights how banks are making it increasingly difficult for customers to manage their own physical currency.

Keywords: [chase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chase.md), sapphire card, metal credit card, cash deposits, banking restrictions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Donation Segment, Karma Requests and Knighting Preparations (1:50:38–1:55:06)

The hosts conduct a mid-show donation segment, thanking various producers for their financial support. They discuss the "value-for-value" model and the importance of listener contributions in maintaining the show's independence. Several listeners request "karma" for personal milestones, and the hosts prepare for an upcoming knighting ceremony.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [listener support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-support.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Silk Road Takedown, Dread Pirate Roberts and BitMessage (1:55:07–1:58:02)

The hosts revisit the Silk Road takedown, noting that the alleged founder, Ross Ulbricht, denies being the "Dread Pirate Roberts." They discuss the fishy details in the legal affidavits and the rising price of Bitcoin. Adam Curry recommends using BitMessage for secure communication, though he admits to occasionally forgetting to check his own messages.

Keywords: [silk road](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silk-road.md), dread pirate robits, [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [bitmessage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitmessage.md), [ross ulbricht](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ross-ulbricht.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Craig Porter and NPR Criticism (1:58:02–2:01:46)

Craig Porter is officially knighted as "Sir Craig Porter" for his contribution of $1,000 or more to the program. The hosts contrast their listener-supported model with NPR's pledge drives, which they claim are unnecessary given NPR's significant corporate underwriting. The segment includes the traditional knighting proclamation and a call for support for the upcoming Sunday show.

Keywords: [craig porter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/craig-porter.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md), [pledge drive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pledge-drive.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Palo Alto Emergency Alerts, Pancake Breakfast and LGBTQ Advocacy (2:01:48–2:07:31)

Residents of Palo Alto, California, were surprised to receive an emergency smartphone alert regarding a charity pancake breakfast. The alert was sent via the county's emergency notification system to benefit "Project Safety Net." The hosts criticize the misuse of the system and explore the various advocacy groups in Palo Alto that have gained influence over local government communications.

Keywords: [palo alto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palo-alto.md), [emergency alert system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-alert-system.md), pancake breakfast, [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), project safety net

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Wireless Emergency Alerts, Android Settings and Presidential Alerts (2:07:32–2:09:58)

The hosts examine the settings for the Commercial Mobile Alert System (CMAS) on mobile devices, noting that while most alerts can be disabled, "Presidential Alerts" are mandatory. They discuss the "slave training" aspect of these systems, which are designed to instruct the public to "shelter in place" during emergencies. The segment highlights the increasing integration of government messaging into personal technology.

Keywords: cmas, [wireless emergency alerts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wireless-emergency-alerts.md), presidential alerts, [android](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/android.md), [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Red Book Denials, NSA Leadership and John Inglis (2:09:59–2:13:33)

A prediction in the "No Agenda Red Book" regarding NSA Deputy Director John C. Inglis becoming the next Secretary of Homeland Security is challenged by listeners after news broke that Inglis is retiring. The hosts defend the prediction's place in the Red Book, noting that retiring officials often move into high-level political or consulting roles. They discuss the "highest secret authorization" required to manage the Red Book.

Keywords: [red book](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-book.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), john inglis, [keith alexander](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-alexander.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Keith Alexander, Chertoff Group and Intelligence Consulting (2:13:34–2:17:02)

General Keith Alexander is reportedly stepping down as head of the NSA, leading to speculation about his future in the private sector. The hosts predict he will likely join a firm like the Chertoff Group or start his own intelligence consulting operation. They characterize Alexander as a "geek" who successfully built a massive surveillance apparatus and now possesses valuable information on political figures.

Keywords: [keith alexander](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-alexander.md), [michael chertoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-chertoff.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [consulting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consulting.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Horse Slaughter Controversy, Navajo Tribe and Meat Consumption (2:17:04–2:20:39)

A plan to reopen horse slaughterhouses in New Mexico has sparked a national debate. The Navajo tribe supports the move to manage a population of 70,000 feral horses that are damaging ranch lands during a severe drought. The hosts discuss the cultural taboos surrounding horse meat in the U.S. compared to its regular consumption in Europe and China.

Keywords: [horse meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/horse-meat.md), navajo, [new mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-mexico.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), slaughterhouses

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Humane Alternatives, Animal Rights and Inhumane Definitions (2:20:40–2:23:59)

The discussion on horse management continues with a look at "humane" alternatives like contraception and euthanasia, which are criticized as being too expensive and difficult to implement. The hosts debate the definition of the word "inhumane," arguing that it is often used paradoxically when applied to animals. They suggest that allowing animals to starve or dehydrate on the range is less humane than controlled slaughter.

Keywords: [euthanasia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euthanasia.md), [contraception](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contraception.md), [animal rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-rights.md), inhumane, wolves

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/41.md)

### 42. William Swenson, Medal of Honor and Pentagon Bureaucracy (2:24:02–2:30:21)

Captain William Swenson was awarded the Medal of Honor four years after the Battle of Ganjgal, following allegations that his nomination was delayed because he criticized his superiors. The Pentagon claimed his paperwork was "lost," but an investigation suggested his name was intentionally deleted from the database. The hosts describe the ceremony as "creepy" and note Swenson's apparent bitterness toward the military bureaucracy.

Keywords: william swenson, [medal of honor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medal-of-honor.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), ganjgal, [dakota meyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dakota-meyer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/42.md)

### 43. International New York Times, Branding and Global Identity (2:30:22–2:32:26)

The *International Herald Tribune* has been rebranded as the *International New York Times* after 126 years. Adam Curry, acting as a "brand expert," questions the logic of replacing a prestigious international brand with a city-specific name. The hosts speculate that the change may be driven by internal corporate politics or a misunderstanding of global market identity.

Keywords: international herald tribune, [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [branding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/branding.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [global news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Eleanor Clift, Twitter Habits and Media Incompetence (2:32:27–2:36:24)

Eleanor Clift of *The Daily Beast* is criticized for her comments about "thinking less and tweeting more." The hosts review her Twitter feed, describing it as a collection of "lame" pro-Obama talking points and poorly formatted updates. They mock her lack of engagement with other users and her apparent misunderstanding of how the platform works.

Keywords: [eleanor clift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eleanor-clift.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [daily beast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-beast.md), [obamacare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obamacare.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Sandy Hook Demolition, Confidentiality Agreements and Secrecy (2:36:25–2:38:13)

Workers demolishing the Sandy Hook Elementary School are required to sign strict confidentiality agreements, forbidding them from taking photos or discussing the site. The hosts question the necessity of such secrecy for a public construction project. They compare the lack of public information to other high-profile events like the burial of Osama bin Laden.

Keywords: [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [demolition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demolition.md), confidentiality, [connecticut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/connecticut.md), [newtown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newtown.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/45.md)

### 46. IBM Watson, Doctor Shortage and Automated Diagnosis (2:38:14–2:40:25)

IBM's Watson AI is being positioned as a solution to a projected shortage of 45,000 primary care doctors by 2020. The hosts discuss how the healthcare system is moving toward an automated model where patients interact with computers for diagnosis and prescription. They argue that this shift, accelerated by the Affordable Care Act, will eventually eliminate the role of the general practitioner.

Keywords: [ibm watson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ibm-watson.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [diagnosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diagnosis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/46.md)

### 47. 23andMe, Genetic Testing and Big Data (2:40:26–2:47:00)

The genetic testing company 23andMe, founded by Anne Wojcicki, is criticized as a "parlor trick" designed to collect massive amounts of DNA data. The hosts discuss an article about Sergey Brin's genetic predisposition for Parkinson's and argue that the company's true goal is "big data" monetization rather than personal health. They suggest that focusing on genetic flaws can lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy of illness.

Keywords: [23andme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/23andme.md), [sergey brin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sergey-brin.md), [dna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna.md), [big data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-data.md), [parkinson's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parkinson-s.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Podcast Patent, International Space Station and Outro (2:47:01–2:49:58)

The hosts briefly mention an ongoing podcast patent dispute, which they plan to deconstruct in the next episode. They also note a strange plume seen from the International Space Station, which turned out to be a Russian missile test. The show concludes with a final "thank you for your courage" and a reminder to support the "Sunday Service" episode.

Keywords: [podcast patent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-patent.md), [iss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iss.md), [missile test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missile-test.md), sunday service, courage

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/557-kalemia/chapter/48.md)

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