# Red Cell > A thriller novelist exposes government terror simulations while Washington power brokers clash over military intervention and the legal definition of digital treason. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 532 - **Published:** 2013-07-21 - **Length:** 2h 33m - **Topics:** [Red Cell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cell.md), Detroit Bankruptcy, Brad Thor, TSA Theft, Syria Intervention, Digital Treason - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell ## About this episode Author Brad Thor reveals his participation in the Department of Homeland Security's Red Cell program, a secretive initiative recruiting creative thinkers to simulate catastrophic terrorist scenarios. Thor describes the Las Vegas-style confidentiality of the program, which the security apparatus allegedly uses to dream up new threats that justify expanded surveillance. Meanwhile, Senator John McCain threatens to block the re-nomination of General Martin Dempsey after the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff refused to endorse kinetic military strikes in Syria. In the wake of Detroit filing for bankruptcy, archival audio from 2012 surfaces of President Barack Obama claiming his administration refused to let the city fail. The economic stagnation extends to Amsterdam, where pop-up stores fill vacant storefronts with bankruptcy inventory while merchants transition to card-only pin systems that reject American credit. Domestically, the TSA faces fresh scrutiny as an agent at a New Jersey airport is caught stealing electronics from checked luggage, and Congressman Frank Wolf reports that Benghazi survivors are being forced to sign new non-disclosure agreements to prevent Congressional testimony. The media landscape shifts as police photographer Sean Murphy releases unauthorized, bloodied images of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to counter a controversial Rolling Stone cover. In the world of entertainment, HBO's The Newsroom faces criticism for elitist historical revisionism, while the Disney-produced Marvel Superhero Squad is accused of embedding climate change propaganda in children's programming. Finally, former Senator Gordon Humphrey breaks ranks to support Edward Snowden, as the Bradley Manning trial explores a legal theory that publishing leaks online constitutes aiding the enemy. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/transcript.md. ### 1. Delta and KLM Flight Logistics, Luggage Weight Scandals (0:00–3:24) A traveler describes a flight from Austin to Amsterdam via Atlanta, noting the discrepancies in baggage allowances between Delta and KLM code-share flights. An anecdote details a confrontation at the airport counter over a suitcase weighing 56 pounds against a 50-pound limit, resulting in a manual transfer of items between bags. A similar experience on Lufthansa is recounted where removing a two-pound laptop from a bag satisfied a strict weight limit. Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), luggage fees, weight limits [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/1.md) ### 2. TSA Theft Scandals, Security Checkpoint Opt-Out Tactics (3:27–7:44) Reports indicate a TSA agent was caught stealing cameras and electronics from checked luggage over several years at a New Jersey airport. The discussion covers "Blogger Bob" of the TSA denying that valet car searches are standard procedure despite local reports. One traveler shares a successful "opt-out" tactic at security by claiming an inability to lift arms, resulting in being waved through a deactivated magnetometer. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), freedom international airport, [blogger bob](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blogger-bob.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), [magnetometer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magnetometer.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Amsterdam Airbnb Accommodations, Dutch Economic Stagnation (7:44–10:34) A traveler describes staying in a third-floor Airbnb apartment above a massage parlor in Amsterdam during a heat wave. Observations of the local atmosphere suggest a period of economic depression similar to the United Kingdom, characterized by high unemployment and a stagnant housing market. The local population is described as appearing "drunk" or in a "waiting room" state due to the lack of economic movement. Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), [heat wave](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heat-wave.md), [unemployment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment.md), [housing market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/housing-market.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Bay Area Housing Price Surges, Google Stock Performance (10:38–13:13) Median home prices in Alameda County have reportedly jumped 44% in a single year, with properties previously valued at $280,000 now entering escrow for $400,000. Google reported disappointing financial numbers leading to a 5% stock drop, prompting claims that the online advertising industry is a scam driven by fraudulent "audience acquisition" clicks. The search engine's quality is criticized for being over-saturated with advertisements and bogus review sites. Keywords: [alameda county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alameda-county.md), [bay area](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bay-area.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), online advertising, [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Personal RSS Feed Aggregation, Google Search Quality Decline (13:14–15:41) A custom-built "freedom controller" system is described, which aggregates over 700 RSS feeds into a searchable database, outperforming Google for specific research tasks. The discussion highlights how Google has drifted from its original mission of providing fast, clean search results by adding excessive JavaScript, ads, and Google Plus integration. The host suggests that Google's focus on driverless cars and Google Glass is a distraction from their declining core product. Keywords: [rss feeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss-feeds.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [bing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bing.md), data aggregation, [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [search engines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-engines.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Pop-Up Stores, Dutch Economic Crisis Retail Trends (15:42–19:00) Amsterdam is reportedly filled with "pop-up stores," which are described as a hallmark of an economy in crisis where empty storefronts are used for temporary retail. These shops sell bankruptcy inventory at 50% to 90% discounts, operating under agreements where they must vacate immediately if a permanent tenant is found. The phenomenon is likened to a form of legal squatting by agreement to fill vacant commercial real estate. Keywords: pop-up stores, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [squatting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squatting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/6.md) ### 7. European Pin Card Systems, Cashless Society Trends (19:01–22:10) The Netherlands and much of Europe have moved toward "pin card" systems that authenticate on the card itself, often refusing American credit cards and even cash. This shift places the responsibility for fraud on the merchant and customer rather than the bank. The discussion questions why a society would move toward a system that refuses physical currency, attributing it to social programming for convenience. Keywords: [pin cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pin-cards.md), [credit cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-cards.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [banking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), [cashless society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless-society.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Harry Reid, Global Warming and Western Wildfires (22:12–24:29) Senator Harry Reid, supported by Chuck Schumer, attributed devastating wildfires in Southern Nevada, Colorado, and California to climate change. Reid claimed the West is being devastated by millions of burning acres because the climate has shifted. The commentary suggests these claims are politically motivated "douchebaggery" and notes that such fires have been a constant occurrence for decades. Keywords: [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [wildfires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wildfires.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [nevada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nevada.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Obama Proclamation, Captive Nations Week and Syria (24:30–27:33) President Barack Obama issued a proclamation for Captive Nations Week, reaffirming the U.S. role in advancing human rights and democracy worldwide. The document emphasizes universal rights regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation. Critics interpret the timing and language of the proclamation as a prelude to military intervention in Syria under the guise of delivering freedom. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), captive nations week, [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md), [iceland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iceland.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/9.md) ### 10. John McCain, General Martin Dempsey Syria Testimony (27:34–30:02) Senator John McCain pressured General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to provide a personal opinion on using kinetic military strikes in Syria. Dempsey declined to offer a public opinion, stating the decision rests with elected officials, leading McCain to threaten to block Dempsey's re-nomination. McCain is characterized as a "warmonger" working for the interests of defense contractors. Keywords: [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [martin dempsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-dempsey.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), military strikes, [joint chiefs of staff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joint-chiefs-of-staff.md), [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Helen Thomas, White House Press Corps Legacy (30:03–33:10) Journalist Helen Thomas, who covered ten presidents, passed away recently. The discussion recalls her "No Agenda" style of questioning and her eventual dismissal from the press corps following controversial comments about Israel and Palestine. It is suggested that the Obama administration was particularly dismissive of her persistent questions regarding the closure of Guantanamo Bay. Keywords: [helen thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/helen-thomas.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [palestine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palestine.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Mark Leibovich, This Town and Washington Cynicism (33:11–38:11) Author Mark Leibovich discussed his book "This Town" on Charlie Rose, describing the co-opted and cynical nature of Washington D.C. politics. The book opens with an account of Tim Russert's 2008 funeral, which Leibovich describes as a networking opportunity where business cards were exchanged. The Clintons are specifically mentioned as "pros" at navigating public mourning and empathy for political gain. Keywords: [mark leibovich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-leibovich.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [tim russert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-russert.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [networking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/networking.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Janet Napolitano, University of California Salary (38:11–39:34) Janet Napolitano is set to leave her post at the Department of Homeland Security to join the University of California system in September. She will reportedly earn a base salary of $570,000 per year. The move is discussed in the context of high-level officials securing lucrative positions after their government service. Keywords: [janet napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-napolitano.md), [university of california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-california.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [salary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salary.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Chris Inglis, Potential Homeland Security Nomination (39:34–43:02) John "Chris" Inglis, the Deputy Director of the NSA, is rumored to be a top candidate for the next Secretary of Homeland Security. While New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has been publicly discussed, intelligence sources suggest Inglis is the more likely pick. His background as a Brigadier General and his deep ties to the NSA are highlighted as factors that would make his nomination powerful and difficult to oppose. Keywords: [chris inglis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-inglis.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [ray kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-kelly.md), nsa deputy director, [nomination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nomination.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/14.md) ### 15. John C. Dvorak, 2010 NSA Surveillance Prediction (43:03–44:55) A clip from No Agenda Episode 175, recorded in February 2010, features John C. Dvorak discussing his practice of placing black tape over computer webcams. In the clip, Dvorak explicitly mentions the NSA as a potential entity that could be watching through the cameras. The hosts revisit this as proof of Dvorak's early foresight regarding the total surveillance state. Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), webcam security, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [prediction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prediction.md), episode 175 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Executive Producer Donations, No Agenda Roundtable Knighting (44:55–51:12) Executive producers and donors are recognized for their financial support of the show. Joseph Sukhbir and a donor from Sydney, Australia, are acknowledged for contributions of $500 or more, leading to their induction into the No Agenda Roundtable. Various other donors from across the United States and Canada are granted "karma" for their support during difficult economic times. Keywords: joseph sukhbir, knight list, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [sydney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sydney.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Rein van Rooij, Architectural Photography and Celebrity Donors (51:12–52:59) Rein van Rooij, a well-known architectural photographer based in the Netherlands, has reportedly been encouraging Dutch celebrities to donate to the No Agenda show. The hosts discuss his unique "light painting" photography technique and his aggressive recruitment of new donors. One host expresses interest in joining van Rooij on a photo shoot to learn more about his process. Keywords: rein van rooij, [photography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photography.md), [architecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/architecture.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [celebrities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrities.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Detroit Bankruptcy, Global Value for Value Donations (53:00–57:28) Donors from Croatia and Michigan contribute to the show, prompting a discussion on the 101 million Americans receiving some form of government food assistance. The hosts clarify that while 47 million are on the SNAP program, the total number across all federal food programs reaches the 101 million mark. John C. Dvorak expresses interest in visiting the "worst parts" of Detroit during an upcoming trip. Keywords: [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [croatia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/croatia.md), [food stamps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-stamps.md), [snap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snap.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/18.md) ### 19. No Agenda Newsletter, Upcoming Special Programming (57:44–1:03:23) The hosts discuss the production of the No Agenda newsletter and upcoming special episodes featuring Ramsey Cain and interviews with John Dixon and Daniel Suarez. Suarez, author of "Kill Decision," is noted for his accurate predictions regarding drone warfare. The hosts also discuss the technical challenges of maintaining RSS feeds and the importance of "value for value" support during their vacation week. Keywords: [ramsey cain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ramsey-cain.md), [john dixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dixon.md), [daniel suarez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-suarez.md), [rss feeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss-feeds.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/19.md) ### 20. BitTorrent Sync, Decentralized Show Distribution (1:03:23–1:06:19) The No Agenda show is now being distributed via BitTorrent Sync as a safe and decentralized alternative to traditional servers. Currently, 35 computers are seeding the show, including a 40-gigabyte archive of every episode maintained by Eric DeShill. This method allows listeners to receive the show before it is officially released on the main RSS feed. Keywords: [bittorrent sync](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bittorrent-sync.md), [decentralized](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/decentralized.md), [file sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/file-sharing.md), seeding, [archive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archive.md), [distribution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/distribution.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Barack Obama, 2012 Detroit Bankruptcy Denial (1:06:19–1:07:54) A 2012 clip of President Obama is resurfaced where he claimed his administration "refused to let Detroit go bankrupt" while bailing out the auto industry. The hosts contrast this statement with Detroit's current actual bankruptcy filing. The segment highlights the perceived failure of government intervention to prevent the city's financial collapse. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md), [gm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gm.md), [chrysler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chrysler.md), [auto industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/auto-industry.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Trayvon Martin Case, Obama Racial Commentary (1:07:54–1:12:43) President Obama's comments on the Trayvon Martin case, including his statement that "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," are criticized as pandering and fomenting racial division. The discussion touches on Piers Morgan's coverage and the role of figures like Al Sharpton in "fomenting hate" for profit. The hosts argue that the President should rise above local criminal issues rather than involving himself in racial politics. Keywords: [trayvon martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trayvon-martin.md), [george zimmerman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-zimmerman.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [racial profiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racial-profiling.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [piers morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/piers-morgan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Redneck Heaven Bar, Texas Body Paint Controversy (1:12:44–1:14:58) A bar in Lewisville, Texas, called Redneck Heaven, faced a legal challenge after a resident complained about "ABC Days" (Anything But Clothes), where waitresses wore only body paint and pasties. Despite the practice being initially legal under city ordinances, the city is now moving to change the law to require actual clothing. The hosts mock the "one lone complainer" who caused the change. Keywords: lewisville, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), redneck heaven, body paint, [city ordinance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-ordinance.md), toplessness [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Boston Magazine Police Photos (1:14:59–1:17:28) Police photographer Sean Murphy released unauthorized photos of a bloodied Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to Boston Magazine to counter the "glamorized" Rolling Stone cover. The hosts question the authenticity of the photos, noting the absence of a reported neck wound and the "Hollywood-style" appearance of a sniper's laser dot on Tsarnaev's forehead. Murphy was suspended for one day for the unauthorized release. Keywords: [dzhokhar tsarnaev](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dzhokhar-tsarnaev.md), boston magazine, sean murphy, [rolling stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolling-stone.md), neck wound, sniper laser [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Rolling Stone Controversy, Media Snide Style (1:17:29–1:21:36) The controversy surrounding the Rolling Stone cover featuring Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is characterized as a publicity stunt that successfully riled up both the left and right. An NBC News report on the matter is criticized for its "snide" delivery when quoting Rolling Stone's commitment to "thoughtful coverage." The hosts argue that the media is participating in a "lynch mob" mentality regarding the trial. Keywords: [rolling stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolling-stone.md), boston bomber, [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), [publicity stunt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publicity-stunt.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/25.md) ### 26. European Newsstands, Lad Mags and Gender Norms (1:21:37–1:25:26) Magazine distribution in the UK and Europe relies heavily on newsstands, leading to aggressive covers featuring "Page Three girls" and "Lad Mags" like Maxim. The discussion shifts to gender norms, with one host admitting to wearing a "nightdress" at home for comfort. This leads to a humorous exchange about the differences in how men and women perceive their surroundings. Keywords: [newsstands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsstands.md), [magazines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magazines.md), [maxim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxim.md), lad mags, page three girls, [uk media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk-media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Spectre 360, Employee Monitoring Software (1:25:26–1:32:56) Spectre 360 is a revolutionary employee monitoring software that records all computer activity, including screen captures and file transfers, to guard against "insider threats." The hosts discuss how this software acts as a digital keylogger and screen recorder, potentially causing resentment in the workplace. They suggest that employees will simply bypass such surveillance by using their personal mobile phones. Keywords: spectre 360, employee monitoring, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [keylogger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keylogger.md), [sysadmins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sysadmins.md), workplace privacy [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Homeland Security, Red Cell Program for Creatives (1:32:56–1:34:55) Author Brad Thor revealed his involvement in the Department of Homeland Security's "Red Cell" program, which recruits creative thinkers to plot potential terrorist attack scenarios. Thor describes it as a "Las Vegas" program where the ideas generated must stay within the government. The hosts express skepticism, suggesting the program is used to "dream up" scenarios that the security apparatus can then exploit. Keywords: brad thor, [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [red cell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cell.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), creative thinking, scenarios [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Brad Thor, Hidden Order and the Federal Reserve (1:34:57–1:40:11) Brad Thor's new book, "Hidden Order," focuses on the Federal Reserve, which he claims will be the "next big thing" in public discourse. Thor uses a style he calls "faction," blending real-life surveillance and economic trends into thriller novels. The hosts discuss the history of the "Red Cell" term, noting its origins in testing military base security and its co-option by DHS. Keywords: brad thor, [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), hidden order, [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), faction, thriller novels [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Global Donor Recognition, Birthday and Job Karma (1:40:13–1:46:11) A long list of donors from Switzerland, Australia, Canada, and the United States is read, with many contributing $69.69 or $50.02. The hosts provide "job karma" and "birthday callouts" for various listeners and their family members. Mary Messner is highlighted for her note about her son Matthew encouraging her to listen to the "thought-provoking" podcast. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md), [dominican republic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dominican-republic.md), birthday callouts, [job karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-karma.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/30.md) ### 31. No Agenda Knighthoods, Sir Valued Cardholder Ceremony (1:46:11–1:49:19) The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Valued Cardholder and Sir Joseph Sukhbir, acknowledging their donations of $1,000 or more. The segment emphasizes the show's "value for value" model and its ability to broadcast from anywhere in the world, including a "hovel" in Amsterdam. The new knights are welcomed to the No Agenda Roundtable. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), sir valued cardholder, sir joseph sukhbir, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Beverly Hills Cannabis Club, Marijuana Moms (1:49:19–1:53:09) A group of affluent mothers in Beverly Hills has formed the "Cannabis Club," using marijuana to manage the stress of family life and chronic pain. Hostess Cheryl Schumann, dubbed the "Martha Stewart of Marijuana," claims cannabis makes her a better mother and human being. The segment notes a shift in terminology from "marijuana" to the more "elitist" sounding "cannabis." Keywords: cheryl schumann, [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md), [beverly hills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beverly-hills.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [medical marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-marijuana.md), [parenting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parenting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Raw Marijuana Dangers, Cannabis vs. Pharmaceuticals (1:53:10–1:58:22) A warning is issued against eating raw marijuana leaves, as microscopic hooks on the plant can cause digestive issues if not cooked. The "marijuana moms" of Beverly Hills argue that responsible cannabis use is a safer alternative to prescription drug overdoses, which are a leading cause of death for American women. The hosts discuss the strategic rebranding of the drug as "can-a-bus" to sound more legitimate. Keywords: [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md), [pharmaceuticals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceuticals.md), raw marijuana, digestion, [medical marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-marijuana.md), [branding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/branding.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Hemp Products, Industrial Uses of Cannabis (1:58:22–2:02:17) The discussion explores the versatility of the hemp plant, which can be used for milk, rope, paper, and fabric. It is suggested that the Hearst Corporation historically lobbied against hemp to protect its timber and paper mill interests. The hosts note that industrial hemp contains negligible THC and is an easy-to-grow "weed" that was unfairly criminalized. Keywords: [hemp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hemp.md), hemp milk, [hearst corporation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hearst-corporation.md), [paper mills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paper-mills.md), [thc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thc.md), [industrial hemp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/industrial-hemp.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/34.md) ### 35. The Newsroom, HBO Drama and Media Slams (2:02:17–2:07:36) The HBO drama "The Newsroom," created by Aaron Sorkin, is criticized for its "gratuitous slams" against states like Oklahoma and its rewriting of history. The hosts mock the show's portrayal of "real news" and share a tangent about how women notice details like "nipples" or public indecency that men often overlook. The show is dismissed as an elitist production that fails to resonate with average Americans. Keywords: [the newsroom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-newsroom.md), [hbo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hbo.md), [aaron sorkin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aaron-sorkin.md), [oklahoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma.md), jeff daniels, [media criticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-criticism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Marvel Superhero Squad, Global Warming Propaganda (2:07:38–2:12:06) A Disney-owned cartoon, "Marvel Superhero Squad," is accused of pushing global warming propaganda to children aged 4 to 8. In one episode, a character named "Flatman" is mocked for suggesting the sun causes warming, while a "super genius" character corrects him by citing greenhouse gases and factory pollution. The hosts describe this as "slave training" for young children. Keywords: [marvel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marvel.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [greenhouse gases](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greenhouse-gases.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), flatman [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Gordon Humphrey, Republican Support for Edward Snowden (2:12:06–2:13:22) Former two-term Republican Senator Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire sent an email to Edward Snowden expressing support for his exposure of NSA surveillance. Humphrey, who served on the Foreign Relations and Judiciary Committees, stated that Snowden did the right thing in exposing violations of the U.S. Constitution. This stands in contrast to many other politicians who have labeled Snowden a traitor. 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Keywords: [bradley manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bradley-manning.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [treason](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treason.md), aiding the enemy, [internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet.md), [whistleblowers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblowers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/532-red-cell/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Constitutional Definition of Treason, TPP Secrecy (2:16:34–2:21:43) Article III of the U.S. Constitution defines treason strictly as levying war against the United States or adhering to its enemies by giving them aid and comfort. The hosts discuss how this definition is being stretched in the digital age to include online leaks. They also touch on the secrecy of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and how it might influence future definitions of international crime. 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