# 9/11 Generation

> A week of high-stakes political theater sees the White House codifying drone warfare while European sovereignty erodes under the weight of economic collapse and domestic unrest.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 516
- **Published:** 2013-05-26
- **Length:** 2h 37m
- **Topics:** Drone Policy, MI5 Recruitment, [General Dynamics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-dynamics.md), [Rand Paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [Code Pink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/code-pink.md), 3D Printed Guns
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation

## About this episode

President Barack Obama defended the 2011 drone execution of U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki during a major counter-terrorism address interrupted by Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin. The administration released a classified fact sheet detailing new standards for lethal force, requiring near certainty that non-combatants will not be killed. Critics argue the staged nature of the Benjamin interruption served to humanize the President while he solidified a permanent framework for targeted killings.

Senator Rand Paul popularized the slogan Don't Drone Me Bro during a New Hampshire speech, while UK Home Secretary Theresa May proposed aggressive new laws to combat internet radicalization following the murder of soldier Lee Rigby. In London, suspect Michael Adebolajo was revealed to have been approached by MI5 for recruitment months prior to the attack. Meanwhile, the Greek economic crisis has triggered a 150 percent surge in prostitution as prices for services collapse, and the Dutch Air Force prepares to cede control to Germany due to severe budget constraints.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the media's obsession with 1979 prom photos of a young Barry Obama while ignoring the Pentagon's space-based war games against China. The hosts deconstruct the meta-conspiracy of mainstream podcasters like Joe Rogan and Penn Jillette who synchronized their dismissal of government skepticism this week. This episode 516 was produced by Zachary Giesemann, Philip Sanders, and Robert Clemens.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/transcript.md.

### 1. Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 516 Introduction (0:00–1:37)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 516 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts establish the date as Sunday, May 26, 2013, and engage in initial banter regarding microphone levels and audio quality. They prepare to analyze the week's media narratives, specifically focusing on the "distraction of the week."

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [travis heights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travis-heights.md), [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Medea Benjamin, Code Pink Interruption of President Obama (1:41–9:35)

Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink, interrupted President Barack Obama three times during a major speech on drone policy and counter-terrorism. Media coverage on CNN and Democracy Now suggests the interruption may have been a staged event or "plant" to allow the President to appear as though he were engaging with the left. Benjamin defended her actions as a necessary democratic response to indefinite detention at Guantanamo Bay and the killing of innocent people via drone strikes.

Keywords: [medea benjamin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medea-benjamin.md), [code pink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/code-pink.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), drone policy, [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Political Show Business, Robert Plant Austin Hoax (9:35–14:12)

The hosts compare political stagecraft to professional entertainment, sharing an anecdote about a planted shill at a Led Zeppelin concert. A local Austin legend regarding Robert Plant living in the Travis Heights neighborhood is dismissed as a hoax designed to boost local interest. The discussion critiques Juan Gonzalez's interview style on Democracy Now, suggesting his hesitant questioning regarding the security breach during Obama's speech indicates an awareness of the event's staged nature.

Keywords: [robert plant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-plant.md), [show business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-business.md), [juan gonzalez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/juan-gonzalez.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Presidential Policy Directive, Anwar al-Awlaki Drone Strike (14:14–19:46)

The Obama administration released a fact sheet regarding the Presidential Policy Directive (PPD) on the use of lethal force in counter-terrorism operations outside active hostilities. President Obama defended the 2011 drone strike on U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki by comparing him to a sniper firing on a crowd. Critics argue that the administration attempted to kill al-Awlaki as early as 2009, well before the specific allegations used to justify his eventual execution were established.

Keywords: presidential policy directive, [anwar al-awlaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anwar-al-awlaki.md), [lethal force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lethal-force.md), [drone strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone-strikes.md), fact sheet

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Lethal Force Standards, Feasibility of Capture Definition (19:46–31:46)

The U.S. government's standards for lethal force require "near certainty" that non-combatants will not be killed and an assessment that capture is not "feasible." The hosts criticize the vague legal definitions of "imminent threat" and "feasible," noting that these determinations are often made by department deputies and senior lawyers rather than through transparent judicial processes. The actual text of the Presidential Policy Directive remains classified, leaving the public with only a summarized fact sheet.

Keywords: [lethal force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lethal-force.md), non-combatants, presidential directive, legal interpretation, [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Rand Paul, Don't Drone Me Bro Slogan (31:47–34:28)

Senator Rand Paul utilized the phrase "Don't drone me bro" during a speech to Republicans in New Hampshire, referencing his 13-hour filibuster regarding drone policy. Adam Curry claims the slogan originated within the No Agenda producer community and was seen on signs at Occupy LA years prior. The hosts note that Paul incorrectly attributed the phrase to a three-word summary when it is actually four words.

Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), don't drone me bro, [cpac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpac.md), [new hampshire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-hampshire.md), occupy la

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Greek Prostitution Economic Statistics (34:30–36:07)

Prostitution in Greece has reportedly increased by 150% while prices for services have dropped significantly due to the ongoing economic crisis. The hosts discuss the grim reality of the European economy, noting that some services are being offered for as little as five to ten euros. This trend is framed as a desperate byproduct of the financial instability within the Eurozone.

Keywords: [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [prostitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prostitution.md), [economic crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-crisis.md), euro land, [tourism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/7.md)

### 8. European Soldier Attacks, French Military Patrols (36:07–38:51)

Following the gruesome murder of British soldier Lee Rigby in London, a French soldier was stabbed in the neck while on patrol in a commercial district west of Paris. The hosts discuss the "strategy of tension" and the presence of French military boots on the ground in domestic areas. They argue that national sovereignty in Europe is being eroded as power shifts toward Brussels, leading to increased civil unrest.

Keywords: lee rigby, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [paris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris.md), gladio, [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Barack Obama Senior Prom Photos (38:52–40:17)

Time Magazine released photos of a 17-year-old Barack Obama, then known as Barry, at his senior prom in Hawaii in 1979. The photos were provided by a former classmate and included a yearbook inscription where Obama referred to her as "foxy." The hosts mock the media's focus on these trivial historical artifacts while more pressing geopolitical issues are ignored.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [time magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-magazine.md), [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), barry obama, [1979](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1979.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Michael Adebolajo, MI5 Recruitment Allegations (40:17–42:34)

Michael Adebolajo, a suspect in the London soldier killing, was reportedly approached by MI5 for recruitment as a spy six months prior to the attack. Abu Nusayba, a childhood friend of Adebolajo, made these claims during a BBC Newsnight interview and was arrested immediately following the broadcast. The hosts suggest the lack of blood in initial videos of the London incident and the MI5 connection point toward a highly suspicious narrative.

Keywords: michael adebolajo, [mi5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi5.md), [bbc newsnight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc-newsnight.md), abu nusayba, london attack

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Theresa May, Internet Radicalization Legislation (42:35–47:10)

UK Home Secretary Theresa May proposed new laws to combat "radicalization" by targeting internet content and organizations that fall below the threshold for criminal proscription. The proposal includes empowering Ofcom to regulate what is "beamed" into homes via the internet to prevent the "oxygen of publicity" for extremist views. The hosts trace the evolution of the term "radicalization" and compare it to historical labels like "anarchist" or "communist."

Keywords: [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [radicalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radicalization.md), [ofcom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ofcom.md), [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), banning orders

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Telecommunications History, BBS Era to Modern Storage (47:13–52:10)

John C. Dvorak reflects on his history in the telecommunications industry, including his best-selling guides from the 1980s and the era of CompuServe's CB Simulator. The hosts marvel at the technological leap from 5-megabyte external SCSI drives to modern 4-terabyte hard drives available at retail stores. They contrast the early days of local BBS exchanges with the current ability to broadcast to a global audience from separate states.

Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [compuserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/compuserve.md), [bbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbs.md), [modems](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/modems.md), 4 terabyte drive

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Sidecar App, Peer-to-Peer Transportation Regulation (52:11–54:38)

The Sidecar app allows private citizens to act as drivers for others, essentially digitizing the 1970s practice of hitchhiking. The hosts argue that the introduction of a corporate middleman to facilitate these interactions complicates a simple peer-to-peer concept. They express frustration with the modern economic system's insistence on inserting profit-seeking entities into basic human cooperation.

Keywords: [sidecar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sidecar.md), [ride sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ride-sharing.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [hitchhiking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hitchhiking.md), middleman

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Executive Producer Credits, Tribunal Karma (54:41–1:03:53)

The hosts acknowledge financial support from executive producers, including Zachary Giesemann, Philip Sanders, and Robert Clemens. A donor from Australia, Snorkel, requests "tribunal karma" for an upcoming legal battle against a home builder regarding a leaky bathroom. The segment includes "de-douching" ceremonies for long-time listeners who have finally contributed to the value-for-value model.

Keywords: zachary giesemann, philip sanders, robert clemens, [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Memorial Day, Military Bond Analysis (1:03:54–1:08:34)

Adam Curry discusses his personal bond with members of the military and the intelligence community, despite not having served himself. He suggests that the No Agenda show provides a "relaxing" alternative for service members who feel the mainstream media does not represent their reality. The hosts prepare to analyze President Obama's Memorial Day address, looking for underlying themes of authoritarianism.

Keywords: [memorial day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memorial-day.md), [military service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-service.md), [challenge coins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/challenge-coins.md), [veterans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Barack Obama Memorial Day Address Analysis (1:08:35–1:16:39)

The hosts critique President Obama's 2013 Memorial Day weekend address, specifically his use of the phrase "the last full measure of devotion" to describe military death. They argue the speech frames the "9/11 generation" as a perpetual tool for state defense while ignoring the economic reality that many join the military simply for employment. The analysis suggests the President's rhetoric reinforces a "leecher" narrative for civilians who do not serve.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [memorial day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memorial-day.md), [naval academy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/naval-academy.md), 9/11 generation, [military-industrial complex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-industrial-complex.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Bruce Gagnon, Military Space War Games (1:16:39–1:24:26)

Ex-Republican turned progressive Bruce Gagnon discusses the Pentagon's role as a "resource extraction service" and the encirclement of China with missile defense systems. Gagnon describes U.S. Space Command war games involving a "first strike" attack on China using a military space plane. He claims these systems are designed to neutralize retaliatory capabilities, prompting Russia and China to seek new ways to make their nuclear arsenals survivable.

Keywords: bruce gagnon, [space command](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-command.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), first strike, [missile defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missile-defense.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/17.md)

### 18. General Dynamics, Obama Campaign Donations (1:24:27–1:30:28)

The Crown family of Chicago, majority stockholders in General Dynamics, reportedly donated $500,000 to Barack Obama's 2008 campaign. Following the election, the Obama administration moved forward with a version of missile defense that benefited General Dynamics over competitors like Boeing and Lockheed Martin. This included the construction of high-tech Aegis destroyers costing between four and seven billion dollars per ship.

Keywords: [general dynamics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-dynamics.md), crown family, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), aegis destroyer, [military-industrial complex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-industrial-complex.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/18.md)

### 19. High-Speed Rail, Airbnb Regulation (1:30:28–1:35:04)

The hosts dismiss high-speed rail as a scam designed to benefit wealthy investors like Warren Buffett by providing free tracks. They pivot to discussing the increasing regulation of peer-to-peer services like Airbnb in New York and Austin, where licensing fees and inspections are used to stifle competition. They argue that government "protection" is often a pretext for infringing on personal freedoms and economic independence.

Keywords: [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), government intrusion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/19.md)

### 20. In the Garden of Beasts, Hitler Salute Mandates (1:35:04–1:39:08)

A listener recommendation for the book *In the Garden of Beasts* by Eric Larson prompts a discussion on the mandatory Hitler salute in 1930s Germany. The book details how the salute was used as a public demonstration of obedience, enforced through social pressure and violence. The hosts draw parallels between this historical environment and modern "zero tolerance" policies, politically correct language, and pervasive surveillance.

Keywords: eric larson, william dodd, hitler salute, [fascism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fascism.md), [zero tolerance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zero-tolerance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Podcast Meta-Conspiracy, Mainstream Media Skepticism (1:39:10–1:42:40)

A listener report highlights a trend of popular podcasters, including Penn Jillette, Joe Rogan, and Adam Carolla, dismissing conspiracy theories regarding JFK and 9/11. The hosts find it notable that multiple shows mocked skepticism of official government reports during the same week. They frame this as a "meta-conspiracy" where mainstream-adjacent voices align to discourage critical analysis of state narratives.

Keywords: penn jillette, [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [adam carolla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-carolla.md), [conspiracy theories](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theories.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Donor Acknowledgments, Birthday Announcements (1:42:42–1:50:22)

The hosts read a series of donations from listeners in Alberta, Nevada, and the Netherlands, providing "karma shots" and "de-douching" as requested. Birthday wishes are extended to several "human resources" of Gitmo Nation, including Alex, who is turning 15. The segment reinforces the community-funded nature of the show and the global reach of its audience.

Keywords: monica lansing, jason stevens, dario gonzalez, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Ed Schultz, Chicago School Closures (1:50:23–1:55:21)

MSNBC host Ed Schultz criticized Republicans for budget cuts while ignoring that Democrat Mayor Rahm Emanuel oversaw the largest round of school closures in U.S. history in Chicago. Schultz's rant focused on the "conservative plot" to privatize education through vouchers. The hosts point out the logical inconsistency in blaming Republicans for policies being enacted by high-profile Democratic officials.

Keywords: [ed schultz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ed-schultz.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [public education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-education.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Ad Council PSAs, Discover the Forest (1:55:22–1:59:03)

The hosts critique a series of Ad Council public service announcements, including "Discover the Forest" and a campaign encouraging children to use smaller plates to prevent obesity. They characterize these ads as a waste of public money and a form of "1930s-style" social engineering. The "small plate" campaign is mocked as a directive for "slaves" to limit their consumption.

Keywords: [ad council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ad-council.md), discover the forest, [psa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psa.md), public money, [obesity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obesity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Silicon Valley Elite Shuttles, Tumblr Valuation (1:59:07–2:02:22)

Public resentment is growing in San Francisco over private shuttle buses used by Google and Apple employees, which utilize public infrastructure while bypassing the city's struggling transit system. The hosts also analyze Yahoo's acquisition of Tumblr, calculating that each user is worth approximately $22 to the corporation. They emphasize that in these business models, the user's content and data are the primary products being sold.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [yahoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yahoo.md), [tumblr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tumblr.md), private shuttles

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/25.md)

### 26. PSKmail, High-Frequency Radio Social Network (2:02:23–2:05:40)

Adam Curry discusses his transition to PSKmail, a social network that operates via high-frequency ham radio rather than relying solely on the internet. Using Phase Shift Keying (PSK), the system allows for decentralized communication that can remain functional if the traditional internet fails. The network is Unix-based and supports features like APRS messaging and even tweeting via radio servers.

Keywords: pskmail, [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), phase shift keying, [unix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unix.md), [emergency communication](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-communication.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/26.md)

### 27. David Koch, PBS Documentary Controversy (2:05:41–2:08:43)

David Koch, a major donor to public television, resigned from the board of WNET after the network aired a documentary critical of his business interests. The hosts argue that while PBS claims this demonstrates editorial independence, the network rarely targets its liberal-leaning corporate sponsors like Monsanto or Chevron. They view the incident as a targeted move against a right-wing donor rather than a principled stand for journalism.

Keywords: [david koch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-koch.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [wnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wnet.md), [documentary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/documentary.md), [public television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-television.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Global March Against Monsanto (2:08:45–2:11:41)

Protests against Monsanto and genetically modified foods took place in over 50 countries and 250 U.S. cities, including major rallies in Seattle and Vancouver. Demonstrators are calling for mandatory labeling of GMO products and independent testing of seeds, which Monsanto currently restricts. The hosts note that mainstream cable news provided minimal coverage of these widespread grassroots events.

Keywords: [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [gmo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmo.md), [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), labeling initiative

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Liberace Movie, Toronto Mayor Crack Allegations (2:11:42–2:14:39)

The Liberace biopic *Behind the Candelabra*, starring Michael Douglas and Matt Damon, debuted on HBO because no American theatrical distributor would pick it up. Meanwhile, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford denied allegations of using crack cocaine after reports surfaced of a video showing him with drug dealers. The hosts mock Ford's specific denial that he is an "addict" as a classic non-denial of the actual act.

Keywords: [liberace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberace.md), [hbo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hbo.md), [rob ford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rob-ford.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [crack cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crack-cocaine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Stephanie Miller, Anthony Weiner Apology (2:14:40–2:19:43)

Liberal commentator Stephanie Miller defended Anthony Weiner's bid for New York City Mayor, downplaying his prior scandals as a "guy thing." The hosts analyze Weiner's apology video, noting his wife Huma Abedin's body language and suggesting the couple serves as a "beard" for the Clinton political machine. They argue Weiner's primary issue is not infidelity but his history of lying to the public and the media.

Keywords: stephanie miller, [anthony weiner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-weiner.md), [huma abedin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huma-abedin.md), [clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/30.md)

### 31. 3D Printed Guns, Australian Police Warning (2:19:44–2:25:31)

Australian police issued a stern warning against 3D printing "The Liberator" plastic handgun, claiming they successfully manufactured a version for $35. The police warned that even "thinking about considering" making such a weapon is dangerous and illegal. The hosts dismiss the panic as a "war on printers," noting that zip guns have always existed and that the real threat to authorities is the decentralized nature of the technology.

Keywords: [3d printing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/3d-printing.md), [the liberator](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-liberator.md), [cody wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cody-wilson.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), plastic bullets

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/31.md)

### 32. July 4th Predictive Programming, Movie Releases (2:25:32–2:29:55)

The hosts examine the upcoming July 4th holiday for potential "incidents," noting a lack of major movie openings on the actual holiday. They speculate that the absence of a "tentpole" film on July 4th might indicate that a significant real-world event is expected to dominate the news cycle. They review upcoming releases like *The Lone Ranger* and *Pacific Rim* for potential themes of "predictive programming."

Keywords: [july 4th](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/july-4th.md), [ied](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ied.md), [predictive programming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictive-programming.md), [lone ranger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-ranger.md), [pacific rim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-rim.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Chris Christie, Climate Change Skepticism (2:29:56–2:33:37)

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pushed back against Matt Lauer's questioning regarding whether Superstorm Sandy was caused by climate change. Christie stated he has not seen "definitive proof" and characterized the debate as a distraction from rebuilding efforts. The hosts praise Christie's "straight talker" persona and discuss his potential as a 2016 presidential candidate against Rand Paul and Marco Rubio.

Keywords: [chris christie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-christie.md), [matt lauer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lauer.md), [superstorm sandy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/superstorm-sandy.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/516-9-11-generation/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Dutch Air Force Integration, Show Outro (2:33:37–2:37:01)

The show concludes with a note that the Dutch Air Force is reportedly moving under the control of the German Air Force due to budget constraints. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, reminding listeners to support the show via the value-for-value model. They announce the next episode will air on Thursday and wish the audience a meaningful Memorial Day weekend.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [air force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md)

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