# Big Mac & Cheese

> The Vatican selects a new Pope with a complicated political past while Washington uses drone debates to camouflage a massive billion-dollar expansion of the federal budget.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 495
- **Published:** 2013-03-14
- **Length:** 2h 39m
- **Topics:** [Pope Francis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pope-francis.md), [Rand Paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [Cyber Security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-security.md), [Dan Aykroyd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-aykroyd.md), [Bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), HR 748, [Vatican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese

## About this episode

Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio ascends to the papacy as Pope Francis amidst resurfacing allegations regarding his conduct during Argentina's military junta. While the Vatican celebrates the first Jesuit Pope, international media outlets like France 24 highlight a 1970s photograph of Bergoglio with dictator Jorge Videla, sparking a global debate over the Catholic Church's historical complicity with fascist regimes. The transition is marked by both ancient omens, such as a seagull perched on the Sistine Chapel chimney, and modern speculation that the new Pope’s focus on the poor may lead to the liquidation of Vatican treasures.

In Washington, Senator Rand Paul’s thirteen-hour filibuster over domestic drone strikes serves as a media smokescreen for the quiet passage of a $982 billion continuing resolution that secures funding for the Affordable Care Act. Simultaneously, the Pentagon and CNN’s Barbara Starr amplify warnings of a 'cyber Pearl Harbor' to justify increased ISP liability protections and government surveillance. Other domestic developments include the introduction of HR 748, a universal national service act that would mandate two years of military or civilian labor for all U.S. residents aged 18 to 25, effectively reviving the draft under a new guise.

Cultural oddities and media gaffes round out the report, featuring a cardinal repeatedly calling Wolf Blitzer 'Wilf' and the revelation that musician Jeff Skunk Baxter recruits Hollywood actors like Dan Aykroyd for Department of Homeland Security projects. A bizarre culinary trend involving maple syrup macaroni and cheese emerges from Canada, while a New York City transit janitor provides a grim update on the rising frequency of public defecation in the subway system. The program also honors its first 'pre-born knight' in a ceremony for the unborn child of a dedicated global producer.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/transcript.md.

### 1. NPR Slogan, Happiness to the Rainbows of Your World (0:00–2:35)

The program opens with a critique of mainstream media outlets including CNN and NPR. A specific promotional slogan from KUT FM in Austin, Texas—"bringing happiness to the rainbows of your work"—is adopted as a satirical theme for the episode. The hosts also note the linguistic coincidence of the station's call letters in the Netherlands.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), kut fm, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [slogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slogan.md), [media satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-satire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/1.md)

### 2. No Agenda Mobiles, Marketing to Toddler Superfans (2:36–5:03)

A meeting with producer Matt Milligan reveals that his three-year-old daughter is a dedicated fan of the show who sings the "Mac and Cheese" jingle. This anecdote leads to a discussion about the surprising number of young children listening to the podcast. A satirical product idea for "No Agenda Mobiles" is proposed to play show jingles for infants in cribs.

Keywords: matt milligan, mac and cheese song, [merchandising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merchandising.md), [toddlers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toddlers.md), [brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Pope Francis, Jorge Mario Bergoglio Jesuit Prediction (5:05–10:46)

The selection of Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio as Pope Francis is analyzed in the context of a specific prediction made in episode 491. The discussion focuses on the Pope's Jesuit background and its perceived links to Marxist or socialist ideologies in South America. His reputation for humility, such as taking the bus and living in an apartment, is contrasted with his political history in Argentina.

Keywords: [pope francis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pope-francis.md), [jorge mario bergoglio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jorge-mario-bergoglio.md), [jesuits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jesuits.md), [vatican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican.md), [marxism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marxism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Argentina Military Junta, Pope Francis Complicity Allegations (10:46–13:25)

International media reports, specifically from France 24, highlight questions regarding Pope Francis's role during Argentina's military dictatorship from 1976 to 1983. Allegations of the Catholic Church's complicity with the junta are discussed alongside a photograph of Bergoglio with dictator Jorge Videla. The hosts debate whether the new Pope represents a shift toward socialism or a continuation of fascist ties.

Keywords: [argentina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/argentina.md), [military junta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-junta.md), jorge videla, disappeared, [catholic church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catholic-church.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Francis of Assisi, Papal Name and Vatican Reform (13:26–15:48)

The significance of the name "Francis" is explored as a signal for the new Pope's intended program of reform. Drawing inspiration from Francis of Assisi, the "Little Poor Man," the Pope is expected to focus on the downtrodden. There is speculation that this radical focus on poverty could lead to the selling of Vatican treasures.

Keywords: francis of assisi, vatican museum, [poverty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poverty.md), [catholic church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catholic-church.md), papal name

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Vatican Omens, Seagulls and White Smoke (15:50–17:36)

The atmospheric events surrounding the papal conclave are discussed, including a seagull landing on the Sistine Chapel chimney and the timing of rain stopping as the white smoke appeared. The hosts contrast the ancient, low-tech signaling methods of the Vatican with the high-tech, global media presence of anchors like Brian Williams in St. Peter's Square.

Keywords: [vatican city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican-city.md), st. peters square, [seagulls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seagulls.md), maritime lore, [media coverage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-coverage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Brolf and Wilf, CNN Anchor Name Gaffes (17:37–19:58)

The segment reviews humorous on-air mistakes by news anchors and guests, specifically referencing the "Brolf" incident involving Dr. Anthony Fauci and Wolf Blitzer. A new clip is introduced where a cardinal repeatedly refers to Wolf Blitzer as "Wilf" during live coverage from the Vatican.

Keywords: [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [brolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brolf.md), wilf, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [media gaffes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-gaffes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/7.md)

### 8. No Agenda Stream, Domain Renewal Issues (19:58–21:29)

A brief technical update addresses the temporary expiration of the No Agenda Stream domain. The host explains the frustration with GoDaddy's renewal notifications and confirms that the DNS records are currently propagating to restore service for listeners.

Keywords: [no agenda stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-stream.md), [godaddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/godaddy.md), [dns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dns.md), [domain registration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-registration.md), [technical support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-support.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Executive Producer Credits, Dallas TV Show Casting (21:29–33:23)

The show acknowledges high-tier donors and executive producers. A significant personal update is shared regarding "Miss Mickey," who secured a co-starring role as an "evil woman" on the television series *Dallas*. The production of the show in Dallas, Texas, and the perceived "karma" resulting from listener donations are discussed.

Keywords: [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), [miss mickey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-mickey.md), sir greg filer, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/9.md)

### 10. DBX Compressor Giveaway, Producer Update (33:24–36:08)

An upcoming giveaway for a DBX compressor/limiter is announced for the No Agenda Producer Update. The hosts discuss the specific audio hardware used in their own signal chain, specifically the DBX 266 XL model, and debate the varying prices of the unit found on the internet.

Keywords: dbx 266 xl, compressor, audio gear, producer update, giveaway

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Gitmo Nation Brown Cheese, Flammable Dairy (36:09–38:59)

A gift of Norwegian "brown cheese" (Brunost) leads to a discussion about its unique taste and high fat content, which reportedly makes it highly flammable. The conversation shifts to other Nordic culinary staples, including a warning against oily, foul-smelling Danish herring known as "matjes."

Keywords: [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), brown cheese, flammable food, [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [herring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herring.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Amazon Price Discrepancies, Money Laundering Theory (39:00–41:46)

The hosts investigate extreme price variations for consumer electronics on the internet, noting instances where an $89 item is listed for $2,500. They theorize that these listings may be part of money laundering schemes or corporate kickback programs. This leads to an anecdote about exotic car scams used by organized crime in Florida.

Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [price gouging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-gouging.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md), [gray market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gray-market.md), exotic cars

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Rand Paul Filibuster, Continuing Resolution Funding (41:48–45:09)

The 13-hour filibuster by Senator Rand Paul is characterized as a distraction from the House of Representatives passing a $982 billion continuing resolution. The hosts argue that the media focus on the drone debate allowed for the quiet funding of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). They express skepticism regarding the sincerity of political grandstanding.

Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [filibuster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/filibuster.md), [continuing resolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/continuing-resolution.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md), [affordable care act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-care-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Eric Harroun, Phoenix Veteran Joins Al-Nusra (45:10–49:58)

The case of Eric Harroun, a U.S. Army veteran from Phoenix who reportedly joined the Al-Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra in Syria, is examined. The hosts suggest Harroun's highly publicized Facebook photos and videos appear staged, speculating that he may be an actor or a future target for a drone strike intended to justify domestic security policies.

Keywords: eric harroun, [al-nusra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-nusra.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [phoenix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoenix.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/14.md)

### 15. HR 748, Universal National Service Act (49:59–53:23)

Proposed legislation HR 748 is discussed, which would require all U.S. residents between ages 18 and 25 to perform two years of national service. The bill includes provisions for both military and civilian service and would require women to register for the Selective Service. The hosts characterize the proposal as a form of state-mandated slavery.

Keywords: hr 748, [national service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-service.md), [conscription](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conscription.md), [selective service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selective-service.md), civilian corps

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Jeff Gordon Test Drive, FTC Dot-Com Disclosures (53:25–56:58)

A viral video featuring NASCAR driver Jeff Gordon performing a prank at a car dealership is identified as a staged advertisement for Pepsi Max. The hosts point to the FTC's "dot-com disclosures" document, arguing that such deceptive celebrity endorsements are illegal. They criticize mainstream media for reporting the staged event as real news.

Keywords: jeff gordon, pepsi max, [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md), [viral marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-marketing.md), dot-com disclosures

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Celebrity Identity Theft, Cyber Security Legislation (56:59–1:03:17)

A high-profile "hack attack" targeting the personal financial information of Michelle Obama, Joe Biden, and Kim Kardashian is analyzed as a coordinated media event. The hosts argue the incident is being used to build public support for increased government surveillance and information sharing between corporations and the state.

Keywords: [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [kim kardashian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-kardashian.md), [equifax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equifax.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [cyber command](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-command.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Pentagon Cyber Threats, Barbara Starr Fear Mongering (1:03:18–1:06:29)

CNN's Barbara Starr reports on the Pentagon's warnings regarding cyber threats to the U.S. power grid and banking system. The hosts critique the narrative, suggesting that the "shadowy Chinese military units" and "cyber Pearl Harbor" tropes are designed to justify massive defense spending and executive orders on cybersecurity.

Keywords: [barbara starr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-starr.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [cyber warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-warfare.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/18.md)

### 19. ISP Liability, Cyber Immunity Debate (1:06:30–1:09:36)

Congressional testimony regarding liability protection for Internet Service Providers (ISPs) is reviewed. The discussion centers on whether companies should be immune from lawsuits if they disrupt legitimate traffic while acting on government orders to stop malware, such as the "wiper virus" that affected Saudi Aramco.

Keywords: [internet service providers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-service-providers.md), [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), [immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunity.md), [saudi aramco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-aramco.md), [cyber security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Senate Electronic Device Ban, Blackberry Interference (1:09:36–1:11:26)

During a recorded Senate hearing, the sound of a mobile device receiving a message is heard, prompting a discussion on the rules regarding electronic devices in the chamber. The hosts note the hypocrisy of senators using smartphones to surf the web or communicate during official proceedings despite bans on such technology.

Keywords: [u.s. senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/u-s-senate.md), electronic devices, [blackberry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackberry.md), [interference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/interference.md), [senate rules](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-rules.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Senator Bill Nelson, Python Hunts and Drone Training (1:11:26–1:17:34)

Senator Bill Nelson of Florida is criticized for his performance during a cybersecurity hearing, where he appeared to go "off-script" regarding nuclear command and control. The hosts mock Nelson's public image, citing his participation in Everglades python hunts and drone pilot simulations as evidence of a "creepy" political persona.

Keywords: [bill nelson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nelson.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [cyber command](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-command.md), python hunt, drone pilots

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Banking Cyber Attacks, Distributed Denial of Service (1:17:35–1:23:51)

General Keith Alexander's testimony regarding the vulnerability of the U.S. banking system to Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks is analyzed. The hosts compare the current alarmism to the Y2K scenario, suggesting that the "catastrophic" costs cited by officials are intended to force private industry into government-led regulatory frameworks.

Keywords: online banking, [ddos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ddos.md), [amazon aws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon-aws.md), [critical infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/critical-infrastructure.md), [y2k](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/y2k.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Cyber Security Consulting, Y2K Parallel (1:23:51–1:27:23)

Drawing parallels to the Y2K era, the hosts predict a massive influx of government funding for "cyber consultants." They argue that critical infrastructure, such as nuclear command and control, should be moved to a parallel network like Internet 2 rather than remaining on the public internet, which would eliminate the need for much of the proposed security legislation.

Keywords: [y2k](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/y2k.md), [consulting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consulting.md), internet 2, [tcp/ip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tcp-ip.md), [network security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/network-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Jeff Skunk Baxter, Hollywood Spooks and Dan Aykroyd (1:27:24–1:32:32)

Musician Jeff "Skunk" Baxter is identified as a consultant for U.S. missile defense who recruits other celebrities into the intelligence community. Baxter claims that actor Dan Aykroyd developed a funding plan for the Department of Homeland Security and presented it to White House officials. The hosts express shock at Aykroyd's involvement with the "enemy" security state.

Keywords: jeff baxter, [dan aykroyd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-aykroyd.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [james woods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-woods.md), [missile defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missile-defense.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Hollywood Spy Contingent, Traitors in Entertainment (1:32:33–1:35:17)

The discussion expands on the "Hollywood spy contingent," listing actors like George Clooney, Ben Affleck, and Angelina Jolie as individuals frequently involved in state-aligned activities. The hosts jokingly call for a boycott of *Ghostbusters* and *The Blues Brothers* following the revelations about Dan Aykroyd's ties to Homeland Security.

Keywords: [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md), [ben affleck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-affleck.md), [angelina jolie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angelina-jolie.md), [ghostbusters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ghostbusters.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Value for Value, Global Producer Donations (1:35:19–1:48:38)

A lengthy segment acknowledges donations from listeners in Tel Aviv, Norway, Scotland, and the United States. The hosts discuss the "value for value" model, the use of Bitcoin for contributions, and the awarding of knighthoods to dedicated supporters. They also mention the "No Agenda CD" project, which provides short audio snippets for sharing the show's content.

Keywords: [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [knighthoods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthoods.md), [international donors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-donors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Dutch Baby Milk Shortage, Chinese Exports (1:48:38–1:51:19)

A shortage of baby milk in the Netherlands is attributed to Dutch producers exporting their entire supply to China for higher profits following food safety scares in Asia. The hosts also note the increasing Chinese influence in the Port of Rotterdam, where Mandarin has become a primary university course.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [baby formula](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baby-formula.md), [rotterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rotterdam.md), [mandarin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mandarin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Holland House at South by Southwest, Rick Perry Rumors (1:51:21–1:55:24)

The host recounts attending "Holland House" during the South by Southwest festival in Austin, where Dutch diplomats hosted a party featuring "hookers in milkmaid outfits." A rumor regarding Texas Governor Rick Perry is shared, involving an alleged email thread about the Governor and the Dutch Prime Minister attending a "Holland Day" celebration in Austin.

Keywords: [south by southwest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-by-southwest.md), [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), holland house

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Knighthood Ceremony, Fetus Knight Sir Simons Jr. (1:55:25–1:58:24)

A formal knighthood ceremony is conducted for Sir Greg Filer and Sir Todd Simons. Notably, Simons's unborn child is knighted as "Sir Simons Jr.," making him the show's first "pre-born knight." The hosts emphasize that their listener-supported model allows them to report on rumors and topics that sponsored media cannot touch.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), sir greg filer, sir todd simons, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Jean-Claude Juncker, 1913 War Comparison (1:58:25–2:01:15)

Jean-Claude Juncker, Prime Minister of Luxembourg, reportedly warned that 2013 could mirror 1913—the year before World War I—where a period of perceived peace preceded a global conflict. The hosts link this to their "cycle theory" of recurring historical warfare and note that the statement was largely ignored by the American press.

Keywords: [jean-claude juncker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jean-claude-juncker.md), [luxembourg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/luxembourg.md), [world war i](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-i.md), [cycle theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cycle-theory.md), eurogroup

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Max Keiser, Bitcoin Store of Value Debate (2:01:16–2:08:12)

Financial commentator Max Keiser's promotion of Bitcoin on RT and the Alex Jones Show is scrutinized. Keiser claims Bitcoin is a "store of value" backed by privacy, while the hosts argue it is a volatile asset prone to manipulation. They question Keiser's motives, suggesting he may be running a Bitcoin exchange while publicly pumping the currency's price.

Keywords: [max keiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-keiser.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [fiat currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiat-currency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Million Dollar Bitcoin, Security Law Violations (2:08:12–2:13:05)

Max Keiser predicts that Bitcoin could eventually reach a price of $1 million per coin if it captures a portion of the global Forex market. The hosts characterize this as a "scam" and suggest that such public price promises would be illegal if Bitcoin were regulated as a traditional security.

Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [max keiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-keiser.md), [forex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forex.md), securities law, financial speculation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Alex Jones, Storable Food and Heirloom Seeds (2:13:07–2:16:17)

The marketing tactics of Alex Jones are discussed, specifically his focus on selling survivalist products like storable food, Berkey water filters, and heirloom seeds. The hosts debate the shelf life of seeds and the practicality of "crisis gardens" in urban environments like San Francisco.

Keywords: [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [survivalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/survivalism.md), [heirloom seeds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heirloom-seeds.md), [berkey water filter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkey-water-filter.md), burpee

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Joe Biden 1991, Chinese Weapons Proliferation Speech (2:16:18–2:20:43)

A 1991 speech by then-Senator Joe Biden is unearthed, in which he warns about Chinese weapons proliferation to Syria, Pakistan, and Algeria. Biden specifically mentions the transfer of nuclear technology to Algeria. The hosts note the irony of these same geopolitical themes remaining central to U.S. foreign policy over twenty years later.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [algeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algeria.md), [1991](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1991.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Russia Today Teleprompter Fail, Maple Syrup Macaroni (2:20:44–2:22:30)

A technical failure on Russia Today (RT) is described, where an anchor struggled to recover after her teleprompter malfunctioned. This is followed by a critique of a Canadian culinary trend involving the addition of maple syrup and bacon to macaroni and cheese.

Keywords: [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md), [maple syrup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maple-syrup.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Coupons.com, McDonald's Big Mac and Cheese (2:22:30–2:24:13)

A commercial for Coupons.com featuring children searching for macaroni and cheese discounts is mocked as a sign of economic decline. The hosts propose a hypothetical "Big Mac & Cheese" product for McDonald's, speculating on the potential for trademark and patent litigation.

Keywords: coupons.com, [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md), [mcdonalds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonalds.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [patents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patents.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/36.md)

### 37. New York Subway, Public Defecation Janitor Interview (2:24:14–2:28:35)

An interview with a New York City transit janitor reveals a reported increase in public defecation and urination within the subway system. The janitor describes incidents in elevators and on platforms, attributing the behavior to a lack of public restrooms and a growing homeless population.

Keywords: [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [mta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mta.md), public restrooms, [sanitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanitation.md), janitor interview

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Iraq War 10th Anniversary, Financial Cost Discrepancies (2:28:35–2:30:51)

As the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War approaches, the hosts compare the original $50-60 billion cost estimate to the actual expenditure of over $823 billion. They recall an early Pentagon estimate of only $2-3 billion and criticize the "human cost" of the conflict as reported by Russia Today.

Keywords: [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [bush administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bush-administration.md), [war costs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-costs.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/38.md)

### 39. PETA Giraffe Protest, Adam the Giraffe Anecdote (2:30:52–2:34:35)

PETA's protest against a CGI giraffe being decapitated in a movie is discussed as an example of extreme sensitivity. This leads to a personal story about a giraffe named "Adam" at the Amsterdam Zoo. The host recounts a dangerous encounter where he stood too close to a mother giraffe, unaware that the animals can be lethal to humans.

Keywords: [peta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peta.md), giraffes, amsterdam zoo, [animal rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animal-rights.md), [cgi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cgi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Sean Penn Haiti Charity, Petionville Hotel Golf Course (2:34:36–2:37:56)

Actor Sean Penn's charity reportedly received $8.75 million from the World Bank to relocate 14,000 people living on a golf course in Haiti. The relocation was necessary to accommodate guests at a new luxury hotel funded by the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund. While Penn is credited for his hands-on work in Haiti, the hosts highlight the irony of the "luxury" development amidst the ongoing cholera crisis.

Keywords: [sean penn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-penn.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [clinton bush haiti fund](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-bush-haiti-fund.md), petionville, [cholera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cholera.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Outro, Jihad Name Controversy and Sign-off (2:37:58–2:39:46)

The episode concludes with a preview of upcoming topics, including a French news story about a woman naming her child "Jihad." Final reminders are given for the No Agenda Producer Update and the DBX giveaway. The hosts sign off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [jihad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jihad.md), [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), [dvorak.org](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-org.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/495-big-mac-cheese/chapter/41.md)

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