# Snowquestration > A marathon Senate filibuster over executive drone power collides with TSA policy reversals and a heated debate over the future of the Value for Value model. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 493 - **Published:** 2013-03-07 - **Length:** 2h 37m - **Topics:** [Rand Paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), Drone Policy, [Eric Holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), TSA Knives, Bitcoin Liquidity, [SPLC](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/splc.md), [Dennis Rodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dennis-rodman.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration ## About this episode Senator Rand Paul launched a 13-hour filibuster to block the nomination of John Brennan as CIA Director, demanding Attorney General Eric Holder clarify the constitutionality of domestic drone strikes. The protest centered on whether the executive branch possesses the authority to target American citizens on U.S. soil with lethal force. While the Senate business was delayed during a Washington D.C. snow day, the physical performance was scrutinized as a potential launchpad for a 2016 presidential run. Mainstream media coverage from CNN and Erin Burnett focused on the Senator's lack of bathroom breaks rather than the legal implications of the Posse Comitatus Act or the 2012 NDAA. Simultaneously, Senator Ted Cruz interrogated Eric Holder regarding the Fast and Furious gun-running program and the White House's use of executive privilege. Beyond the Capitol, an Alitalia pilot reported a quadcopter drone sighting near JFK Airport, while the TSA announced a controversial policy shift allowing small folding knives and golf clubs back onto commercial flights. The Southern Poverty Law Center also issued a warning to the Department of Justice regarding an 813% increase in Patriot groups, a move critics argue marginalizes legitimate constitutional dissent. In a candid segment on show sustainability, the hosts analyzed a 50% decline in individual donors, questioning the long-term viability of the Value for Value model. A host offered to sell 143 Bitcoins for $50 each to prove the market's lack of liquidity as the digital currency surged past $48. The episode concludes with a tense debate over whether to move the program to a private, subscriber-only feed to eliminate audience members who do not contribute. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/transcript.md. ### 1. Rand Paul Filibuster and Senate Drone Policy Debate (0:00–4:53) Senator Rand Paul initiated a 13-hour filibuster to protest the nomination of John Brennan as CIA Director, seeking clarification on the domestic use of lethal drone strikes. The protest centered on a letter from Attorney General Eric Holder regarding the constitutionality of targeting American citizens on U.S. soil. The procedure effectively delayed Senate business during a Washington D.C. snow day, drawing international attention to executive branch power. Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [filibuster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/filibuster.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [fifth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fifth-amendment.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Media Coverage of Rand Paul Filibuster and Celebrity Distractions (4:53–6:35) Mainstream media coverage of the Rand Paul filibuster focused on trivial details rather than the constitutional implications of drone warfare. CNN's Erin Burnett highlighted the Senator's lack of bathroom breaks while teasing segments on celebrity feuds involving Taylor Swift, Tina Fey, and Amy Poehler. This reporting style is identified as a deliberate attempt to distract the public from serious policy discussions. Keywords: [erin burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-burnett.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [tina fey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-fey.md), amy poehler, [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Constitutional Limits on Military Force and Posse Comitatus (6:36–10:47) Legal analysts and government officials debated the President's authority to authorize military force within the United States, citing historical precedents like Pearl Harbor and 9/11. The discussion highlights the Posse Comitatus Act and the constitutional distinction between the National Guard and active-duty military branches. Concerns are raised that the executive branch is attempting to redefine the legal structure of domestic security. Keywords: [posse comitatus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/posse-comitatus.md), [jeffrey toobin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-toobin.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), [lethal force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lethal-force.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Department of Defense Definition Changes for Contingency Operations (10:48–13:17) The Department of Defense, GSA, and NASA published an interim rule in the Federal Register amending the definition of "contingency operation" in accordance with the 2012 NDAA. This statutory change allows the Secretary of Defense to activate military reserves for domestic assistance upon a governor's request during declared emergencies. Critics argue this legal shift facilitates the use of federal troops on U.S. soil, potentially bypassing traditional restrictions. Keywords: [department of defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-defense.md), ndaa 2012, contingency operation, [federal register](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-register.md), military reserves [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Rand Paul Filibuster Performance and Political Posturing (13:18–15:37) The physical performance of Rand Paul during his filibuster is scrutinized, including his frequent breaks and perceived physical cues. Speculation arises that the event was a calculated move to build a "liberty movement" profile for a 2016 presidential run, possibly as a running mate for Jeb Bush. The timing is questioned as Attorney General Eric Holder was providing related testimony on a secondary C-SPAN channel simultaneously. Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [political theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-theater.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Ted Cruz Questions Eric Holder on Drone Constitutionality (15:36–21:46) Senator Ted Cruz engaged in a heated exchange with Attorney General Eric Holder during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing regarding the targeted killing of U.S. citizens. Holder initially used the term "appropriate" to describe the use of lethal force against non-threatening citizens in hypothetical scenarios. After repeated questioning, Holder eventually conceded that such an act would be unconstitutional, leading Cruz to propose new restrictive legislation. Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [due process](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/due-process.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/6.md) ### 7. David Petraeus Railroad Allegations and 2016 Political Speculation (21:45–23:20) Allegations surface that former CIA Director David Petraeus, referred to by the code name "P4," is being politically marginalized due to past involvement with torture teams in Iraq. This maneuver is framed as clearing the field for the 2016 election cycle. The discussion suggests a potential Republican ticket featuring Jeb Bush and Rand Paul, while warning the "liberty movement" about Paul's true political allegiances. Keywords: [david petraeus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-petraeus.md), [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [jeb bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeb-bush.md), torture teams, [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Alitalia Pilot Reports Drone Sighting Near JFK Airport (23:21–28:32) An Alitalia pilot reported seeing a "small drone" at 1,500 feet while on final approach to JFK International Airport. Air traffic control tapes reveal that other nearby aircraft, including Lufthansa and Delta flights, were unable to spot the object. While media reports implied a large military-style drone, tower communications later described the craft as a small quadcopter with four propellers. Keywords: alitalia, [jfk airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-airport.md), [drone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone.md), [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), [quadcopter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quadcopter.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Micro Drones and Corporate Surveillance Threats (28:32–29:57) The threat of drone technology is shifting from large military Reapers to swarms of micro-drones and quadcopters used for surveillance. Documents from the Department of Homeland Security indicate an interest in drones equipped to detect weapons and track communications. The discussion posits that corporate-run drones and biological threats are more practical dangers to privacy than high-profile government drone strikes. Keywords: micro drones, [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), quadcopters, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Ted Cruz Challenges Eric Holder on Fast and Furious (29:57–34:04) Senator Ted Cruz interrogated Attorney General Eric Holder regarding the White House's assertion of executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents. Cruz argued that if the White House was not involved in the "operational component" of the gun-running program, executive privilege should not legally apply. Holder's defense relied on distinguishing between operational involvement and subsequent communications regarding the congressional investigation. Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [fast and furious](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-and-furious.md), [executive privilege](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-privilege.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Ted Cruz Background and Canadian Birth (34:05–35:42) The biographical background of Senator Ted Cruz is discussed, noting his birth in Calgary, Canada, and his education at Princeton and Harvard Law School. His eligibility for the presidency is questioned due to his birthplace. Despite his effective questioning of Eric Holder, he is characterized as an "elite" with his own political agenda. Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [calgary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calgary.md), [harvard law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard-law.md), [princeton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/princeton.md), [eligibility](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eligibility.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Sequestration Budget Cuts and White House Tour Cancellations (35:42–38:59) The Obama administration announced the cancellation of White House tours as a cost-saving measure following the implementation of sequestration budget cuts. Critics label this a political "stunt" designed to inconvenience the public, noting the administration's other high expenditures. Meanwhile, economic analysts like Bianna Golodryga noted that the stock market reached record highs despite the predicted "fiscal cliff" gloom. Keywords: [sequestration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sequestration.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), white house tours, [budget cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget-cuts.md), bianna golodryga [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Bitcoin Market Volatility and Liquidity Challenges (39:00–48:10) A host describes the difficulties of cashing out 143 Bitcoins as the price surged past $48, citing scams and withdrawal limits on exchanges like Mt. Gox. The discussion compares Bitcoin to a barter system or a "pump and dump" scheme, highlighting the lack of a liquid market compared to gold. Concerns are raised about the lack of privacy on the public blockchain and the inability to use the currency for practical expenses like rent. Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [mt. gox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mt-gox.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [cryptocurrency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cryptocurrency.md), [liquidity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liquidity.md), [blockchain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blockchain.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Historical Context of Digital Currencies Flooz and Beans (48:11–50:54) The current Bitcoin trend is compared to failed late-90s digital currencies like Flooz and Beans.com, which were backed by celebrities and venture capitalists but ultimately collapsed. Flooz was notably used by a Russian crime syndicate for money laundering before its demise in 2001. A prediction is made that Bitcoin will eventually become a worthless collectible item valued at less than ten dollars. Keywords: flooz, beans.com, [digital currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-currency.md), [dot-com bubble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dot-com-bubble.md), [whoopi goldberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whoopi-goldberg.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Listener Criticism and Bitcoin Divestment Strategy (50:55–55:58) The hosts respond to aggressive feedback from the Bitcoin community regarding their skepticism of the cryptocurrency. One host offers to sell their entire Bitcoin stash for $50 per coin to any "believer" in the chat room to prove the market's lack of genuine buyers. The segment highlights the tension between early adopters and those questioning the underlying principles of the digital asset. Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [listener feedback](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-feedback.md), [market manipulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-manipulation.md), [divestment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/divestment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Executive Producer Credits and Episode 500 Announcements (55:58–1:02:27) The show acknowledges high-tier donors including Sir Gere and Sir Dwayne Melanson, who contributed to the upcoming Episode 500 milestone. The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" model and the specific donation amount of $313.13 tied to the March 31, 2013, anniversary date. A brief mention is made of the "No Agenda" app available in the BlackBerry App Store. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [episode 500](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/episode-500.md), sir gere, sir dwayne melanson [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Independent Media and Advertising Skepticism (1:02:28–1:05:36) The show is highlighted in an article as a top independent podcast that avoids the compromises inherent in advertising-supported media. By refusing corporate sponsorships, the hosts claim they maintain the freedom to criticize any industry, from gold to emergency preparedness gear. This independence is contrasted with other tech media outlets that may be influenced by their advertisers. Keywords: [independent media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent-media.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [the verge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-verge.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Newt Gingrich and Political Figures Under the Influence (1:05:37–1:08:33) A "drunk or not drunk" segment analyzes a clip of Newt Gingrich commenting on the Rand Paul filibuster. The hosts speculate on the sobriety of various political figures during late-night Senate sessions and media appearances. The segment serves as a humorous critique of the behavior of the political elite during high-stakes legislative events. Keywords: [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [sobriety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sobriety.md), [political commentary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-commentary.md), [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Jay Carney and the Manufactured Crisis Rhetoric (1:08:34–1:13:58) White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is criticized for using the phrase "manufactured crisis" regarding the sequestration, which critics argue is an admission of political theater. The administration's frequent use of the term "common sense" is traced back to Thomas Paine's 1776 pamphlet, though it is now viewed as a rhetorical tool to "dumb down" complex issues for the public. Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), manufactured crisis, [common sense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/common-sense.md), [thomas paine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-paine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Obama Common Sense Caucus and Elite Photo Ops (1:13:58–1:17:55) President Obama's attempt to form a "common sense caucus" included a dinner with Republican senators to discuss the deficit. A Flickr photo of a previous meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid is deconstructed, showing the leaders eating expensive sub sandwiches and "hubcap-sized" cookies on fine White House china. The imagery is used to illustrate the disconnect between the political elite and the "common folk" they claim to represent. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md), [mitch mcconnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitch-mcconnell.md), [flickr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flickr.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Dennis Rodman North Korea Visit and Celebrity Apprentice Tie-in (1:17:56–1:22:42) The media's outrage over Dennis Rodman's visit to North Korea is analyzed as a missed promotional connection to Donald Trump's "Celebrity Apprentice." Rodman, a contestant on the show, visited Kim Jong-un just as the new season premiered on NBC. The hosts argue the trip was a calculated publicity stunt for the network, which has been struggling with low ratings. Keywords: [dennis rodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dennis-rodman.md), [kim jong-un](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-jong-un.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [celebrity apprentice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-apprentice.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/21.md) ### 22. NBC Corporate Culture and Jack Welch Stacked Ranking (1:22:43–1:27:06) The decline of NBC is attributed to the "stacked ranking" management system implemented by former GE CEO Jack Welch. This system, which forces managers to fire the bottom percentage of employees regardless of performance, is described as destructive to creative environments. An anecdote about an inventor at GE illustrates how Welch's policies reportedly exploited employees and eventually impacted Welch's own retirement benefits. Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [jack welch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-welch.md), stacked ranking, corporate management [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Kraft Macaroni and Cheese Food Dye Controversy (1:27:08–1:33:05) Food bloggers Lisa Leake and Vani Hari (Food Babe) launched a petition on Change.org to force Kraft to remove artificial dyes Yellow No. 5 and Yellow No. 6 from American macaroni and cheese. The segment notes that the UK version of the product does not contain these dyes. Additionally, a clip from the 700 Club features Pat Robertson and Condoleezza Rice discussing the cultural significance of the dish. Keywords: [kraft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kraft.md), [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md), yellow number 5, food dyes, [pat robertson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pat-robertson.md), [condoleezza rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/condoleezza-rice.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/23.md) ### 24. TSA Policy Change on Small Pocket Knives (1:33:06–1:38:52) The TSA announced a policy shift allowing passengers to carry small folding knives (under 2.36 inches) and certain sporting equipment like golf clubs and hockey sticks on planes. TSA officials claim this allows screeners to focus on higher risks like non-metallic IEDs. Flight attendant unions and some passengers expressed outrage, viewing the change as a "slippery slope" that reintroduces weapons into the cabin. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), pocket knives, [airline security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airline-security.md), [flight attendants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-attendants.md), pete williams [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Diane Sawyer and Media Reporting on Confiscated Goods (1:38:53–1:43:53) ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer and correspondent David Kerley reported on the volume of goods confiscated at airports, noting that 400 pounds of small knives are collected monthly at major hubs. The hosts digress into a critique of Sawyer's appearance and alleged plastic surgery. The reporting is framed as a way to justify the TSA's need for more personnel to measure and categorize newly permitted items. Keywords: [diane sawyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diane-sawyer.md), david kerley, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), confiscated goods, [plastic surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plastic-surgery.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Strategies for Avoiding TSA Full Body Scanners (1:43:54–1:46:03) Listeners and former DHS Undersecretary Michael Brown shared a tactic to avoid full-body "slave scanners" by claiming a medical inability to raise one's arms. This typically results in the passenger being directed through a standard magnetometer instead of receiving a pat-down. Brown confirmed via email that this method is effective, though he anticipates the TSA may eventually require medical certificates to close the loophole. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [magnetometer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/magnetometer.md), [michael brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-brown.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Southern Poverty Law Center Domestic Terrorism Warnings (1:46:04–1:50:28) The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder warning of a rise in domestic terrorism similar to the period preceding the Oklahoma City bombing. SPLC founder Morris Dees and CEO J. Richard Cohen are criticized for their broad definitions of "hate groups." The hosts argue the SPLC is conflating anti-government sentiment and constitutionalism with racial extremism. Keywords: [splc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/splc.md), [morris dees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morris-dees.md), [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [janet reno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-reno.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/27.md) ### 28. SPLC Hate Group Definitions and Interactive Maps (1:50:29–1:59:12) Mark Potok of the SPLC discussed a report claiming an 813% increase in "Patriot" groups since 2008, linking them to conspiracy theories about martial law and the New World Order. The SPLC's interactive map of hate groups is scrutinized for including organizations like "Bare Naked Islam" and "Official Street Preachers." The discussion suggests the SPLC uses these labels to marginalize legitimate political dissent. Keywords: [splc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/splc.md), [patriot groups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-groups.md), [mark potok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-potok.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md), [agenda 21](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agenda-21.md), [hate groups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-groups.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Roger Ailes Biography and Obama Laziness Comments (1:59:13–2:01:00) A new biography of Fox News chief Roger Ailes features comments calling President Obama "lazy" and claiming he never worked a non-public job. Media figures like Van Jones labeled the comments racially charged, while the hosts point to a Barbara Walters interview where Obama himself admitted to having a "deep down laziness." The segment explores the media's reaction to criticisms of the President's work ethic. Keywords: [roger ailes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roger-ailes.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [vanity fair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vanity-fair.md), [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Al Sharpton and Gallup Polls on Minority Gun Ownership (2:01:01–2:03:51) A segment from Al Sharpton's radio show featured Earl Ofari Hutchinson discussing surprising Gallup poll data on gun ownership. The data reveals that 45% of gun owners in America are non-white, and nearly 30% are African-American. This challenges the mainstream narrative that the NRA and gun ownership are exclusively the domain of rural white males. 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Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [high fructose corn syrup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-fructose-corn-syrup.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Declining Donation Trends and Value for Value Viability (2:18:57–2:29:51) A detailed analysis of the show's finances reveals a 50% year-over-year decline in the number of individual donors. One host expresses deep frustration with the "Value for Value" model, noting that only 1% of the audience contributes while others "kvetch" in the chat room. The viability of the show is questioned, with the hosts considering a move to a private, subscriber-only podcast model to eliminate "leechers." Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [mailchimp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mailchimp.md), [south by southwest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-by-southwest.md), podcasting economics [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/493-snowquestration/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Knighting Ceremony and Potential Show Model Changes (2:29:52–2:34:25) Sir Philip is knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable as the hosts continue to debate the future of the program. Frustration peaks regarding a scheduled speech at South by Southwest about the "Value for Value" model, which the hosts now feel is failing. The possibility of ending the public stream and providing content only to the 4,000 supporting members is discussed as a serious option. 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