# Sponsor Influence

> From the legal architecture of domestic drone strikes to the corporate censorship of Rod Serling, the mechanisms of the national security state are laid bare.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 488
- **Published:** 2013-02-17
- **Length:** 3h 6m
- **Topics:** Drone Clause, Russian Meteorite, Pentagon Sequester, Bates Method, Sovereign Behavior, GeekDesk, [Rod Serling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rod-serling.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence

## About this episode

President Barack Obama defends the legality of domestic drone strikes during a Google Fireside Hangout, sparking intense scrutiny over the administration's refusal to rule out lethal force against American citizens on domestic soil. This expansion of executive power coincides with military budget hearings where the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Marine Corps leadership warn of catastrophic readiness failures due to the sequester. These warnings are deconstructed as strategic fear-mongering designed to protect a bloated Pentagon budget that remains the largest employer in the United States.

General James Amos and other military officials testify to a new National Defense Strategy that identifies sovereign behavior as a threat to the global economic order, effectively creating a drone clause for international non-compliance. Beyond the beltway, private asteroid mining interests involving Larry Page and Eric Schmidt are linked to recent meteorite events in Russia and Cuba, suggesting that commercial tractor beam research may be inadvertently redirecting space debris. Meanwhile, the Christopher Dorner investigation faces fresh skepticism as unburned tactical gear is recovered from an incinerated cabin, and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper establishes a controversial Office of Religious Freedom.

Historical parallels emerge through a 1959 interview with Rod Serling, who details how television sponsors forced the removal of gas chamber references from scripts to protect appliance sales. This legacy of self-censorship persists in modern tech journalism, where writers admit to burying Apple iOS 6 failures to maintain corporate access. The program concludes with Gore Vidal’s final assessment of the national security state and Cornel West’s sharp critique of the current administration's drone policy.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, Studio Relocation to Austin (0:00–2:14)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from a stripped-down studio in Austin, Texas, surrounded by packing boxes. The hosts discuss the logistics of moving the production facility and the acoustic challenges of recording in an empty, echoing room. Curry details the timeline for post-production and the final breakdown of equipment before the official move.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), studio move, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/1.md)

### 2. GeekDesk, Standing Desk Ergonomics, IKEA Furniture Comparison (2:15–7:00)

A discussion regarding studio ergonomics focuses on the purchase of electric standing desks from GeekDesk. One host describes the assembly process and shipping issues involving damaged tabletops, while the other compares the $500 investment to cheaper alternatives from IKEA. The conversation highlights the necessity of adjustable heights for long-form broadcasting and the physical requirements of supporting multiple monitors and mixers.

Keywords: geekdesk, standing desk, [ergonomics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ergonomics.md), [ikea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ikea.md), [studio equipment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/studio-equipment.md), [furniture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/furniture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Static Electricity, Grounding, Physical Shocks Anecdote (7:01–10:18)

An anecdote regarding persistent static electricity shocks leads to a discussion on grounding techniques and physical safety. One host describes receiving jolts from a DVR and even a potato, leading to a theory about potential electrical interference or listening devices. Advice is exchanged regarding using knuckles instead of fingertips to touch metal surfaces to minimize the pain of electrostatic discharge.

Keywords: [static electricity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/static-electricity.md), grounding, [dvr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvr.md), physical shocks, safety tips

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Vision Changes, LASIK Surgery Risks, Pilot Licenses (10:19–13:34)

Following a cessation of smoking, one host reports significant changes in eyesight and focal points, prompting a discussion on corrective procedures. The conversation covers the potential risks of LASIK surgery, including its impact on pilot licenses and historical FDA concerns. They also touch upon the origins of radial keratotomy and the tendency of patients to claim their surgeon invented the procedure.

Keywords: [vision](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vision.md), lasik, [ophthalmology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ophthalmology.md), [pilot license](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot-license.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [eye surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eye-surgery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Bates Method, Eye Exercises, William Horatio Bates (13:35–18:49)

The hosts examine the Bates Method, an alternative vision therapy developed by William Horatio Bates in the late 19th century. The theory suggests that vision problems are caused by mental strain and eye muscle tension rather than permanent physiological defects. The discussion explores the concept of "training the brain" to see clearly and the skepticism surrounding the optometry industry.

Keywords: bates method, william horatio bates, eye exercises, myopia, vision therapy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Barack Obama, Google Fireside Hangout, Domestic Drone Strikes (18:50–23:00)

President Barack Obama participated in a "Fireside Hangout" on Google where he addressed the legality of drone strikes against American citizens. The hosts deconstruct the President's response regarding the different rules for counter-terrorism operations inside versus outside the United States. They express concern over the lack of a definitive "no" regarding the use of lethal drones on domestic soil.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), fireside hangout, [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [counter-terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counter-terrorism.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Velveeta Commercial, Number 33 Symbolism, Media Patterns (23:00–25:07)

A Velveeta shells and cheese advertisement featuring a ham radio operator is analyzed for its use of the number 33 on a display. The hosts discuss the recurring appearance of "33" in news stories and marketing as a potential signal or "wink" indicating a sham or specific agenda. This leads to a broader discussion on how mainstream media often mirrors themes discussed on the podcast.

Keywords: [velveeta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/velveeta.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [number 33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/number-33.md), [symbolism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/symbolism.md), [media tropes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-tropes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Russian Meteorite, Chelyabinsk Event, Media Coverage Discrepancies (25:08–31:42)

The 2013 Russian meteorite explosion is scrutinized, with the hosts questioning the official narrative and the nature of the impact site at Lake Chebarkul. They compare the event to the 1908 Tunguska explosion and criticize the media's reliance on figures like Bill Nye to explain the phenomenon. Technical questions are raised regarding the speed of the object, the resulting sonic booms, and the lack of significant debris.

Keywords: [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [meteorite](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meteorite.md), chelyabinsk, [bill nye](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-nye.md), tunguska, [sonic boom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sonic-boom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Asteroid Mining, Planetary Resources, Tractor Beam Technology (31:43–35:55)

A theory is proposed linking recent meteorite events in Russia, Cuba, and California to private asteroid mining interests involving Larry Page, Eric Schmidt, and James Cameron. The hosts discuss NASA's research into "Bessel beams" or tractor beams intended to redirect asteroids for mineral extraction. They suggest that these private ventures may be accidentally breaking off chunks of asteroids that then enter the atmosphere as meteorites.

Keywords: asteroid mining, planetary resources, [larry page](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-page.md), [eric schmidt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-schmidt.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [lasers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lasers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Space War Skepticism, Scientific Proof, Media Fakery (35:56–41:48)

The discussion shifts to the difficulty of proving scientific or historical events, such as the moon landing or Mars missions, versus contemporary news reports. The hosts debate whether the meteorite footage and impact sites are genuine or sophisticated television fakery. This leads to a meta-commentary on the value of the show in an era of perceived "computer-generated" reality.

Keywords: [space war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-war.md), [moon landing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-landing.md), [skepticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skepticism.md), [media fakery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-fakery.md), scientific evidence

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/10.md)

### 11. No Agenda Art, Studio Naming, Executive Producer Credits (41:48–46:01)

The hosts acknowledge the work of the No Agenda Art Generator and discuss potential new names for the Austin studio, such as "The Crackpot Cabana." They begin the donation segment, thanking executive producers and granting "courtroom karma" to contributors. The segment includes banter about the "magic numbers" used in donations and the community's involvement in the show's branding.

Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), studio names, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/11.md)

### 12. SDR Project, Raspberry Pi, No Agenda Ham Radio (46:02–47:35)

A listener's dream anecdote about meeting John Dvorak in a park leads to an update on a Software Defined Radio (SDR) project. One host describes building a prototype using a Raspberry Pi and a Lego box enclosure, with plans to pitch the device for manufacturing. The project aims to integrate Wi-Fi capabilities for portable radio operation.

Keywords: [sdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sdr.md), [software defined radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-defined-radio.md), [raspberry pi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raspberry-pi.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [prototype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prototype.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Sir Tallest Knight, Healthcare Provider Complaints, Wedding Karma (47:36–49:12)

A donation from a listener standing 6'6" leads to the bestowal of the title "Sir Tallest Knight." The contributor shares frustrations regarding healthcare providers and insurance companies, which the hosts echo. The segment concludes with a request for "Dr. Kiki Karma" to assist with an upcoming wedding and a CPA exam.

Keywords: [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md), [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [wedding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wedding.md), cpa exam

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Juiced Riders, Electric Utility Bicycles, Hipster Culture (49:13–51:37)

Tora Harris of Juiced Riders is "de-douched" after donating and sharing information about his electric utility bicycle startup. The hosts examine the design of the bikes, noting their high payload capacity and integrated frames. However, the conversation quickly turns to the high cost of such items and their appeal to "hipster douchebags."

Keywords: juiced riders, electric bikes, utility bicycles, [hipsters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipsters.md), [startups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/startups.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Detroit Hipsters, Socio-Economic Milieus, Urban Dictionary Definitions (51:40–57:53)

A heated debate erupts over the definition and demographics of "hipsters," specifically regarding the existence of black hipsters in Detroit. One host argues that the subculture is not limited by race, while the other expresses skepticism based on California archetypes. They attempt to use Urban Dictionary to settle the dispute, ultimately failing to reach a consensus on what constitutes the "hipster" identity.

Keywords: [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [hipsters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipsters.md), [sociology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sociology.md), [urban dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-dictionary.md), subcultures

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/15.md)

### 16. No Agenda Formula, Donation Logistics, Show Promotion (57:55–59:27)

The hosts wrap up the executive producer segment and remind listeners of the show's schedule and donation platforms. They briefly discuss the "No Agenda formula" of hitting the media "in the mouth" and encourage listeners to propagate the show's message. A brief moment of host bickering occurs regarding the "Ask Adam" segment.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [formula](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formula.md), [podcast promotion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-promotion.md), [schedule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schedule.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Military Budget Hearings, Sequestration Threats, Air Force Readiness (59:32–1:04:44)

The hosts analyze testimony from military leaders regarding the "sequester," a series of automatic budget cuts. They highlight discrepancies between the actual 7% budget reduction and the dire warnings from generals about losing 30% of capabilities. The discussion focuses on the "fear-mongering" tactics used by the Pentagon to protect its funding levels.

Keywords: [sequestration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sequestration.md), [military budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-budget.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [air force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [spending cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spending-cuts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/17.md)

### 18. House of Cards, Military-Industrial Complex, Economic Impact (1:04:44–1:06:40)

The Netflix series "House of Cards" is cited as a realistic depiction of how political decisions regarding military base closures and defense spending are made. The hosts discuss the military-industrial complex as the largest employer in the United States and the political impossibility of significant cuts. They also debate the origins of the sequestration idea, attributing it to the Obama administration.

Keywords: [house of cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-cards.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [military-industrial complex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-industrial-complex.md), [employment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/employment.md), [economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Furlough Calculations, Defense Budget Cuts, Accounting Gimmicks (1:06:42–1:09:53)

The hosts deconstruct claims made by defense officials regarding employee furloughs and historical budget cuts. They question how a 7% sequester leads to a 20% pay cut for workers and mock the "savings" claimed by the Pentagon through the removal of underperforming programs. The segment characterizes these budget discussions as a "show" designed to distract the public.

Keywords: [furloughs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/furloughs.md), [defense budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-budget.md), [accounting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accounting.md), [leon panetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leon-panetta.md), [spending](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spending.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Chuck Hagel Confirmation, Pentagon Waste, Joint Chiefs of Staff (1:09:56–1:15:23)

The confirmation hearings for Secretary of Defense nominee Chuck Hagel are reviewed, specifically focusing on his past comments about the Pentagon being "bloated." Senator Mike Lee's attempt to get the Joint Chiefs of Staff to agree with Hagel's assessment of fraud and waste is highlighted. The hosts discuss the political theater surrounding the confirmation and the lack of a true audit at the Pentagon.

Keywords: [chuck hagel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-hagel.md), [mike lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-lee.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [joint chiefs of staff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joint-chiefs-of-staff.md), [confirmation hearings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/confirmation-hearings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/20.md)

### 21. National Defense Strategy, Global Order, Sovereign Behavior (1:15:23–1:19:50)

A detailed analysis of the "National Defense Strategy" is presented, focusing on testimony from the Commandant of the Marine Corps. The hosts highlight the military's stated goal of maintaining a "free international economic system" and an "adjusted international order." They express alarm at the inclusion of "sovereign behavior" as a threat to global economic stability.

Keywords: national defense strategy, [global order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-order.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md), [energy prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-prices.md), [military leadership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-leadership.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Marine Corps Leadership, International Order, Drone Clause (1:19:51–1:25:41)

The hosts deconstruct a specific statement from the Chief of Staff of the Marines regarding the risks to the "global order." They interpret the military's concern over "sovereign behavior" as a potential "drone clause" targeting individuals or nations that resist international integration. The discussion suggests that the military views its role as enforcing economic "calm" through offensive force.

Keywords: [marine corps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marine-corps.md), [global order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-order.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [martial law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martial-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Department of War, Energy Markets, Marine Deployment to Pacific (1:25:41–1:31:38)

The conversation continues regarding the military's role in stabilizing energy markets and the strategic shift of Marine forces to the Pacific. The hosts discuss the potential re-militarization of Japan and the rebranding of the Department of Defense as a "Department of Offense." They conclude that the current military leadership is pursuing an aggressive global strategy under the guise of national security.

Keywords: [department of war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-war.md), [energy prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-prices.md), [marines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marines.md), pacific, [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), [military strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-strategy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Unpretentiousil Parody, Hipster Symptoms, Gas Price Fluctuations (1:31:38–1:35:12)

A parody advertisement for "Unpretentiousil" is played, mocking hipster culture and its associated behaviors like artisanal coffee and fixed-gear bikes. Following the clip, the hosts discuss the recent rise in gasoline prices and the public feud between Elon Musk and the New York Times over Tesla's vehicle range. They also note the absence of nuclear energy mentions in the State of the Union.

Keywords: unpretentiousil, [parody](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parody.md), [hipsters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipsters.md), [gas prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-prices.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Rod Serling Interview, Television Censorship, Sponsor Interference (1:35:13–1:41:19)

A 1959 interview between Mike Wallace and Rod Serling is featured, where Serling discusses the "pre-censorship" practiced by television writers to avoid conflict with sponsors. Serling provides examples of sponsor interference, such as deleting references to gas chambers in a drama to avoid negative associations with gas appliance manufacturers. The hosts relate this historical censorship to modern media constraints.

Keywords: [rod serling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rod-serling.md), [mike wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-wallace.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [television history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-history.md), sponsors, [twilight zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twilight-zone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Self-Censorship in Tech Journalism, Apple iOS 6 Outage (1:41:19–1:44:56)

John Dvorak discusses the reality of self-censorship in tech journalism, noting that writers often avoid topics they know will be rejected or ignored by major companies like Apple. They revisit the "download fiasco" associated with Apple's iOS 6, where technical issues were allegedly ignored by the mainstream tech press. The hosts argue that their independent model allows for the "bickering" and honesty missing from corporate media.

Keywords: [self-censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-censorship.md), [tech journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-journalism.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [ios 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ios-6.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Joe Biden, Legitimate News Media, Social Media Criticism (1:44:57–1:47:35)

Vice President Joe Biden is heard distinguishing between "legitimate news media" and "social media" during a discussion on gun control. The hosts mock Biden's use of the word "malarkey" and his reliance on traditional media outlets to carry the administration's message. They embrace the label of being "not legitimate" according to the Vice President's standards.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [news media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/news-media.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), malarkey

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Microsoft Ribbon Interface, Linux vs. Photoshop, John Warnock (1:47:37–1:51:39)

The hosts criticize the Microsoft "ribbon" interface and its impact on productivity, linking its creator to the development of Windows 8. This leads to a discussion on why professional software like Adobe Photoshop is not ported to Linux. Dvorak attributes this to a long-standing grudge held by Adobe founder John Warnock against the open-source movement and GhostScript.

Keywords: [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), ribbon interface, [linux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux.md), [photoshop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photoshop.md), [adobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobe.md), john warnock

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Apple OS Frustrations, Ubuntu on MacBook Air, Linaro ARM (1:51:40–1:56:21)

Frustrations with Apple's forced software upgrades and UI changes, such as the removal of scroll bars, are discussed. One host reveals they have switched their MacBook Air to run Ubuntu Linux to regain control over the operating system. They also explore "Linaro," a Linux distribution for ARM devices, and the challenges of driver support for Wi-Fi on various Linux installs.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [macbook air](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/macbook-air.md), [ubuntu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ubuntu.md), [linux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux.md), linaro, arm devices

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Prime Numbers, Encryption, Mathematics in Schools (1:56:23–1:59:46)

A donation involving a prime number leads to a discussion on the importance of prime numbers in modern encryption. The hosts debate the utility of finding new prime numbers and suggest that children should be taught how to compile a Linux kernel in school. They contrast this with the current trend of moving students toward simplified Chromebooks.

Keywords: [prime numbers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prime-numbers.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [mathematics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mathematics.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), linux kernel

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Homebrew Competition, Peeing in the Shower, Donation Lengths (1:59:50–2:06:06)

The status of the No Agenda homebrew competition is addressed, with the hosts noting the difficulty of shipping and the inconsistent quality of submissions. A listener's comment about "peeing in the shower" leads to a brief discussion on water conservation and hygiene. The hosts also request that donors keep their messages concise to help manage the length of the donation segments.

Keywords: [homebrew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homebrew.md), [beer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beer.md), [hygiene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hygiene.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Cartulary Project, Social Network Alternatives, Listener Karma (2:06:07–2:13:40)

Adam Curry provides an update on the "Cartulary" project, a distributed social network intended to provide an alternative to Facebook. The hosts process several donations, granting "karma" for birthdays, anniversaries, and health issues. They also discuss the "Atlas Shrugged" film series and the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" religion (Pastafarianism) in response to listener notes.

Keywords: cartulary, [social networks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-networks.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Centrifuge Blood Spinning, Daily Skew, Swiss Donors (2:13:46–2:17:38)

A listener describes a "hipster" medical procedure involving spinning blood in a centrifuge to boost an immune system. The hosts promote "The Daily Skew" and its new Kindle e-book while thanking donors from Switzerland and Australia. They continue to hand out "karma" and "de-douchings" to the community.

Keywords: centrifuge, blood spinning, [daily skew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-skew.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Stoner Voice Request, Kevin Smith, Podcast Plugs (2:17:42–2:21:11)

A request for a "stoner voice" donation read is partially fulfilled, leading to a discussion on method acting and vocal channeling. The hosts address a perceived slight from filmmaker Kevin Smith, noting that while he used a host's name for a joke, he failed to provide a "plug" for the show. They emphasize the importance of mutual promotion in the podcasting world.

Keywords: stoner voice, [kevin smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-smith.md), smodcast, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), plugs

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Elon Musk vs. NYT, Fisker Karma, 500th Episode Planning (2:21:11–2:29:32)

The hosts discuss the public dispute between Elon Musk and the New York Times regarding Tesla's performance in cold weather. They process final donations for the episode, including a "Fisker Karma" request, and begin looking forward to the show's 500th episode. The segment concludes with a defense of their critical stance toward other media figures.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), ny times, [fisker karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisker-karma.md), [500th episode](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/500th-episode.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Black Knight Ceremony, Sir Patrick Maycomb, Ring Distribution (2:29:34–2:33:22)

The hosts explain the concept of a "Black Knight," a title given to donors whose knighthood was accidentally overlooked. Sir Patrick Maycomb is officially knighted following a contribution of $1,000 or more. They also provide an update on the distribution of No Agenda rings and pins, noting challenges with inventory and customer support.

Keywords: [black knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-knight.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rings.md), [pins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pins.md), patrick maycomb

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Mary Ellen Callahan, Cybersecurity Privacy, USB Drive Security (2:33:23–2:37:06)

A listener provides a firsthand account of a presentation by Mary Ellen Callahan, the Department of Homeland Security's former Chief Privacy Officer. The hosts mock Callahan's focus on training employees not to lose USB drives rather than implementing robust encryption like TrueCrypt. They highlight her dual role at a major law firm as a potential conflict of interest in privacy protection.

Keywords: mary ellen callahan, [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), usb drives, [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Office of Religious Freedom, Stephen Harper, Cultural Jihad (2:37:07–2:38:58)

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's creation of the "Office of Religious Freedom" is discussed. The hosts express skepticism about the office's location at a Muslim community center and its potential role in "cultural jihad." They question the necessity of such a government body and its implications for secular governance.

Keywords: [stephen harper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-harper.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [religious freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religious-freedom.md), [islam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islam.md), [muslim brotherhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muslim-brotherhood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Jeff Jarvis BBC Interview, Facebook Hack, Irresponsible Journalism (2:39:00–2:44:58)

An agitated interview featuring Jeff Jarvis on the BBC is analyzed, where Jarvis accuses the broadcaster of "irresponsible journalism" and creating a "techno-panic" over a Facebook hack. The hosts discuss Jarvis's unusual level of aggression and debate whether he was genuinely upset or protecting corporate interests. They note the BBC's tendency to frame technology stories as inherently dangerous.

Keywords: [jeff jarvis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-jarvis.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), technopanic

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Christopher Dorner Arsenal, Unburned Evidence, Reward Disputes (2:44:58–2:51:09)

The hosts revisit the Christopher Dorner case, specifically questioning the condition of the "arsenal" recovered from the burned cabin. They point out that the weapons, magazines, and tactical gear shown by police appear unburned despite the intense fire that reportedly incinerated Dorner's body. They also discuss the legal maneuvers by the LAPD to delay or avoid paying the $1 million reward.

Keywords: [christopher dorner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christopher-dorner.md), [lapd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lapd.md), [arsenal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arsenal.md), [evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evidence.md), [reward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reward.md), [cabin fire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cabin-fire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Dorner Witnesses, Media Actors, Stress-Induced Behavior (2:51:10–2:56:29)

The hosts critique media interviews with individuals claiming to have encountered Christopher Dorner, including a man who lost his truck and a former girlfriend. They suggest the interviews feel scripted and that the "witnesses" may be actors or plants. The segment mocks the media's attempt to explain Dorner's actions as simple "on-the-job stress."

Keywords: [christopher dorner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christopher-dorner.md), [witnesses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/witnesses.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [aaron burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aaron-burnett.md), [acting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/acting.md), [stress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stress.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Nova on Violence, Brain Mapping, SARS-like Viruses (2:56:32–2:59:14)

A preview of a "Nova" special on the roots of violence is criticized for its focus on brain mapping and potential pharmaceutical interventions for "rampage killers." The hosts view this as a move toward pre-emptive social control. They also briefly mention reports of a new SARS-like virus and bird flu outbreaks in Mexico and Germany.

Keywords: [nova](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nova.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violence.md), brain mapping, [sars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sars.md), [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Gore Vidal on Harry Truman, National Security State, Outro (2:59:16–3:06:44)

The show concludes with a 2009 clip of Gore Vidal discussing how President Harry Truman replaced the American republic with a "national security state" in 1947. Vidal also criticizes John F. Kennedy's presidency despite their personal friendship. The final segment features Cornel West labeling Barack Obama a "war criminal" due to drone strikes, followed by the hosts' sign-off.

Keywords: [gore vidal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gore-vidal.md), [harry truman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-truman.md), national security state, [cold war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cold-war.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/488-sponsor-influence/chapter/43.md)

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