# Conheads in Mexico

> Legislative maneuvers restore indefinite detention powers as the White House shifts focus toward gun safety and the looming fiscal cliff tax bomb.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 472
- **Published:** 2012-12-23
- **Length:** 2h 47m
- **Topics:** [NDAA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md), LIBOR fine, Fukushima debris, Chained CPI, [Sandy Hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [John Kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), Aegis system
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico

## About this episode

The Senate approved an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) intended to protect U.S. citizens from indefinite detention, only for Senator Harry Reid to use procedural maneuvers to vitiate the provision during reconciliation. This legislative shift effectively restores the government's ability to detain citizens without trial, coinciding with the nomination of Senator John Kerry to succeed Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. Meanwhile, a massive dock from the Fukushima tsunami washed ashore in Oregon, prompting authorities to burn the structure to prevent the spread of invasive species.

International tensions and domestic policy shifts dominate the landscape as the United States finalizes a $421 million Aegis weapons system upgrade for Japan. In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy, Senator Jay Rockefeller introduced legislation to investigate the impact of violent video games, while NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre proposed placing armed guards in every American school. Financial markets face upheaval as Swiss bank UBS received a $1.5 billion fine for rigging LIBOR interest rates through its Tokyo branch. Additionally, Representative Dennis Kucinich warned that the implementation of Chained CPI will lead to a cat food Christmas for seniors by reducing Social Security benefits.

Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver II held a bizarre press conference regarding the Newtown autopsies, while resident Gene Rosen provided conflicting media accounts of caring for six escaped children. In lighter news, viral videos of a golden eagle snatching a toddler were debunked as CGI hoaxes, and reports of Mexican conehead skulls were dismissed as ancient skull-binding practices. The episode concludes with a formal knighthood ceremony for Steven Jaffe, Greg Wilson, and Maxwell Roberts.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/transcript.md.

### 1. Fukushima Tsunami Debris, Japanese Dock Washes Up in Oregon (0:00–2:25)

A massive dock from the Fukushima tsunami washed ashore in the Pacific Northwest, specifically near the Oregon coast. Authorities destroyed the structure by burning it to prevent the spread of invasive barnacles and vermin. There are concerns regarding potential radioactivity, though the hosts discuss the logistical difficulty of testing the debris with Geiger counters.

Keywords: [fukushima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fukushima.md), tsunami debris, oregon coast, [invasive species](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/invasive-species.md), [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Hillary Clinton Child-Eating Meme, UK Viral Spread (2:25–3:21)

A controversial internet meme alleging that Hillary Clinton eats children has reportedly spread to the United Kingdom. Children in the UK are purportedly referencing the claim during the Christmas season. The hosts note the meme's increasing international awareness.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [internet meme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-meme.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [viral content](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-content.md), [conspiracy theories](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theories.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Amsterdam Exile Observations, Serious Request Glass House Event (3:21–8:42)

Observations from Amsterdam include the "Serious Request" Glass House event, where government radio DJs broadcast without food to raise money for the Red Cross. The hosts criticize the event as an ego-driven exercise and express frustration with the high cost of "biological" supermarkets in the Netherlands. The segment also touches on the lack of gluten-free options and the persistent gray weather in the Lowlands.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [red cross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cross.md), serious request, biological supermarkets

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Holiday Travel Logistics, Driving vs Flying Costs (8:42–10:26)

A comparison of holiday travel costs reveals that driving can be significantly cheaper than flying when factoring in car rentals and airline surcharges. One host opted to drive to save approximately $300 and to facilitate the transport of Christmas gifts and wine. The discussion highlights the frustrations of the TSA and premium airline services during the peak season.

Keywords: [holiday travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holiday-travel.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), driving costs, airline tickets, [car rentals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/car-rentals.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/4.md)

### 5. NDAA 2013 Amendment, Harry Reid Legislative Maneuvering (10:26–16:15)

The Senate approved an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) intended to protect U.S. citizens from indefinite detention, but the provision was later removed during reconciliation. Analysis of C-SPAN footage suggests Senator Harry Reid used specific procedural language to "vitiate" or gut the amendment. This legislative maneuver effectively restored the government's ability to detain citizens without trial.

Keywords: [ndaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md), [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md), legislative amendments

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/5.md)

### 6. US Weapons Sale to Japan, Aegis System Upgrades (16:16–18:53)

The United States finalized a $421 million sale to Japan for upgrades to the Aegis weapons system on Atago-class ships. According to the Federal Register, the contract includes software programs, multi-mission signal processors, and various high-end digital display consoles. The hosts suggest the bulk of the cost is likely tied to proprietary software rather than the physical hardware.

Keywords: [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), aegis weapons system, [raytheon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raytheon.md), defense contract, [federal register](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-register.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Executive Producer Donations, No Agenda Knighthood Ceremony (18:54–23:09)

Several listeners contributed significant funds to become Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 472. Notable donors include Steven Jaffe, Thomas Morgani, Sir Bean, and Eric DeShill. The segment details the "Karma" rewards for donors and promotes the No Agenda Nation merchandise site.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Mayan Doomsday Media Coverage, ABC News Dubai Report (23:16–24:49)

Media outlets, including ABC News, covered the passing of the December 21, 2012, Mayan "doomsday" by calling individuals in different time zones to confirm they were still alive. A report from Dubai confirmed that the day arrived without incident. The hosts mock the mainstream media's approach to the non-event.

Keywords: [mayan apocalypse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayan-apocalypse.md), [doomsday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doomsday.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [dubai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dubai.md), [media criticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-criticism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/8.md)

### 9. NOAA Climate Report, 333rd Consecutive Month of Warming (24:49–25:44)

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) released a state of the climate report identifying November 2012 as the fifth hottest November on record. The report noted it was the 333rd consecutive month with global temperatures above the 20th-century average. The hosts highlight the recurrence of the number 333 as a potential signal from elite organizations.

Keywords: [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), november temperatures, [numerology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/numerology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Staff Sergeant Robert Bales, Afghanistan Shooting Spree Prosecution (25:44–27:58)

U.S. Army prosecutors announced they are seeking the death penalty for Staff Sergeant Robert Bales, who is accused of murdering 16 Afghan civilians in March 2012. While Bales' defense cited post-traumatic stress disorder and concussions, the military is moving forward with a capital case. The hosts question if the push for execution is a cover-up for broader systemic issues.

Keywords: [robert bales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-bales.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [us army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-army.md), [death penalty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-penalty.md), [court martial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/court-martial.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Obama Family Hawaii Vacation, Michelle Obama Past Tense Flub (27:59–30:41)

President Obama and the First Lady traveled to Hawaii for vacation despite the ongoing "fiscal cliff" negotiations in Washington. In a weekly address, Michelle Obama referred to the White House holiday theme in the past tense, leading to speculation about her frustration with the political situation. The President defended his time off, citing the heavy workload of his first term.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), [fiscal cliff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiscal-cliff.md), white house holidays

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Jake Tapper Question, Obama Gun Legislation Record (30:43–32:17)

Reporter Jake Tapper questioned President Obama on his lack of action regarding gun violence during his first term. Obama responded by listing the economic crisis and two wars as his primary focuses, denying that he had been "on vacation" regarding the issue. The exchange highlights the shift in the administration's priorities following recent shootings.

Keywords: [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [press conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-conference.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Fiscal Cliff Consequences, Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) Impact (32:18–41:16)

The "fiscal cliff" poses a significant threat to 30 million Americans due to the scheduled expiration of Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) patches. If no deal is reached, the AMT exemption threshold will drop significantly, potentially adding thousands of dollars to the tax bills of middle-class households. The hosts argue that both political parties are complicit in allowing this "tax bomb" to remain under-discussed.

Keywords: [fiscal cliff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiscal-cliff.md), [alternative minimum tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alternative-minimum-tax.md), [amt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amt.md), [tax hikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-hikes.md), [internal revenue service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internal-revenue-service.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Chained CPI, Social Security Benefit Reductions (41:17–44:19)

Representative Dennis Kucinich warned that the "Chained CPI" is a gimmick designed to reduce Social Security benefits. The formula assumes that as prices rise, seniors will switch to cheaper alternatives, which Kucinich characterizes as a "cat food Christmas." This change in cost-of-living calculations would effectively lower the standard of living for the elderly.

Keywords: [dennis kucinich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dennis-kucinich.md), chained cpi, [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [cost of living](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cost-of-living.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Congressional Term Limits, Silvio Berlusconi Political Return (44:20–47:07)

Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal advocated for congressional term limits, noting that 97% of incumbents are re-elected despite public frustration. A parallel is drawn to Italy, where technocrat Mario Monti resigned after passing an austerity budget, clearing the way for the potential return of Silvio Berlusconi. The hosts discuss how media control influences voter behavior in both countries.

Keywords: [term limits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/term-limits.md), [stephen moore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-moore.md), [mario monti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mario-monti.md), [silvio berlusconi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silvio-berlusconi.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Sheila Jackson Lee, Hurricane Sandy and Newtown Comparison (47:08–49:07)

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee drew criticism for a floor speech attempting to link the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, with the devastation of Hurricane Sandy. She argued that both events demonstrate a need for increased government assistance and social programs. The hosts characterize her rhetoric as nonsensical and opportunistic.

Keywords: [sheila jackson lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheila-jackson-lee.md), [hurricane sandy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-sandy.md), [newtown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newtown.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [food stamps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-stamps.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/16.md)

### 17. John Kerry Appointment, Secretary of State Nomination (49:09–51:37)

President Obama officially nominated Senator John Kerry to succeed Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. The President praised Kerry's service in Vietnam and his long tenure on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The hosts revisit the "Swift Boat" controversy and Kerry's past performance in high-profile Senate hearings.

Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [secretary of state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-of-state.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Ben Affleck Senate Speculation, Massachusetts Political Future (51:38–53:02)

With John Kerry's Senate seat potentially opening up, speculation has turned to actor Ben Affleck as a possible candidate. Affleck, who has been active in advocacy for the Congo and recently released the film *Argo*, did not rule out a future in politics during recent interviews. The hosts compare his potential trajectory to that of George Clooney.

Keywords: [ben affleck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-affleck.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), [us senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-senate.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [celebrity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-politics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Jesse Jackson Jr. Resignation, Bipolar Disorder and Federal Investigation (53:03–56:59)

Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned from his seat representing Illinois, citing health struggles with bipolar disorder and depression. His resignation follows a federal investigation into the alleged misuse of campaign funds for personal luxury items, including a Rolex watch. Despite being hospitalized and not campaigning, he was re-elected with 71% of the vote just weeks before stepping down.

Keywords: [jesse jackson jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jesse-jackson-jr.md), [resignation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resignation.md), [bipolar disorder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bipolar-disorder.md), federal investigation, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/19.md)

### 20. White House Petitions, Piers Morgan Deportation Request (57:00–1:02:23)

The "We the People" petition platform on WhiteHouse.gov has received hundreds of thousands of signatures on various topics, including a request to deport CNN host Piers Morgan for his stance on gun control. While the President responded to petitions regarding gun violence and the use of monkeys in military training, other high-traffic petitions are often ignored or used to promote existing administration agendas.

Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [petitions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petitions.md), [piers morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/piers-morgan.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [citizens united](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizens-united.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Demand a Plan, Celebrity Gun Control Campaign (1:02:25–1:06:38)

The "Demand a Plan" initiative, backed by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, released a star-studded video featuring celebrities calling for legislative action on gun violence. The hosts analyze the video's use of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and rhythmic editing. They point out the irony of actors who profit from violent media advocating for gun restrictions.

Keywords: [demand a plan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demand-a-plan.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), mayors against illegal guns, [nlp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nlp.md), [celebrities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrities.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Violent Video Games, Jay Rockefeller Legislative Inquiry (1:06:38–1:08:14)

Senator Jay Rockefeller introduced legislation to have the National Academy of Sciences investigate the impact of violent video games on children. This move follows reports that the Sandy Hook shooter was a frequent player of such games. The hosts suggest this is an attempt by the movie industry to deflect blame for societal violence onto its primary competitor, the gaming industry.

Keywords: [jay rockefeller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-rockefeller.md), [video games](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-games.md), [violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violence.md), [national academy of sciences](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-academy-of-sciences.md), [connecticut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/connecticut.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/22.md)

### 23. NRA Response, Wayne LaPierre School Safety Proposal (1:08:14–1:11:23)

NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre proposed placing armed guards in every American school to prevent future tragedies. The media and the Obama administration criticized the proposal, with the President shifting the terminology from "gun control" to "gun safety." The hosts note that some school districts, like Cleveland, have already employed armed security for years.

Keywords: [nra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nra.md), [wayne lapierre](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wayne-lapierre.md), [school safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-safety.md), armed guards, [gun safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-safety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Sandy Hook Discrepancies, Gene Rosen and Lone Survivor Stories (1:11:24–1:20:24)

The hosts examine perceived inconsistencies in the Sandy Hook shooting narrative, specifically regarding the "lone survivor" of Victoria Soto's classroom. They compare the account of a girl covered in blood with Gene Rosen's story of six children appearing on his lawn. These conflicting reports lead to a discussion about potential "accounting problems" in the official casualty lists.

Keywords: [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), gene rosen, lone survivor, accounting errors, [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Christian and Missionary Alliance, Sandy Hook Religious Context (1:20:25–1:24:21)

A discussion regarding the pastor of a local Newtown church leads to an exploration of the Christian and Missionary Alliance (CMA). The hosts reference Wikipedia entries regarding past controversies within the organization and speculate on potential "pedo-bear" angles or cover-ups related to the shooting. They draw parallels to the Dunblane massacre in Scotland.

Keywords: christian and missionary alliance, [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [pedophilia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedophilia.md), [cover-up](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cover-up.md), [dunblane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dunblane.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Gene Rosen Media Interviews, Fox News and CBS Coverage (1:24:22–1:28:04)

Gene Rosen, a resident near Sandy Hook Elementary, gave multiple interviews describing how he cared for six children who escaped the school. The hosts analyze his various appearances on Fox News and CBS, noting changes in his story and his emotional delivery. They question the logistics of how the children reached his house and the timing of the events.

Keywords: gene rosen, [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [newtown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newtown.md), media discrepancies

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/26.md)

### 27. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut Medical Examiner Press Conference (1:28:05–1:34:00)

Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver II held a press conference regarding the Sandy Hook autopsies that the hosts characterize as bizarre and unprofessional. Carver discussed using photographs for identification to "control the situation" and made several verbal slips. The hosts question his demeanor and the unusual outdoor setting of the briefing.

Keywords: wayne carver, [medical examiner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-examiner.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [press conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-conference.md), [autopsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autopsy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Sandy Hook Evidence Handling, Dashboard Camera Footage (1:34:01–1:38:45)

Analysis of aerial and dashboard footage from the Sandy Hook scene shows police officers handling weapons found in a vehicle's trunk. The hosts criticize the procedure of unloading shells at the scene rather than securing the vehicle as evidence. They suggest the footage appears staged for media consumption rather than following standard investigative protocols.

Keywords: evidence handling, [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), dashboard camera, [ar-15](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ar-15.md), police procedure

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Genetic Testing of Shooters, H. Wayne Carver II Inquiry (1:38:46–1:42:11)

Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver II is reportedly collaborating with geneticists at the University of Connecticut to study the DNA of the Sandy Hook shooter. The goal is to identify any biological markers or diseases associated with violent behavior. The hosts view this as an unusual and potentially "insane" departure from standard criminal investigation.

Keywords: [genetics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genetics.md), [adam lanza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-lanza.md), wayne carver, [university of connecticut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-connecticut.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Conspiracy Theories and National Security Letters, Batman Movie Map (1:42:14–1:44:51)

The hosts discuss various fringe theories, including a map in the *Dark Knight Rises* movie that allegedly references Sandy Hook. They transition into a serious discussion on National Security Letters (NSLs), which allow the government to silence individuals under threat of imprisonment. They suggest such tools could be used to manage the narrative of major national events.

Keywords: [national security letters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security-letters.md), [batman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/batman.md), [libor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libor.md), [blackmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackmail.md), [ndaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Obama Diplomatic Reception Speech, Strategy of Tension (1:44:52–1:49:28)

During a reception for the diplomatic corps, President Obama spoke about tragedies in Newtown, Norway, and Scotland "piercing through the noise." The hosts deconstruct his language, suggesting it validates the "strategy of tension" used to manipulate public perception. They note the specific mention of international massacres that led to strict gun control in other nations.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [strategy of tension](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strategy-of-tension.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md), dumblane, [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/31.md)

### 32. No Agenda Knighthood Pins, Shipping Cost Proposal (1:49:30–1:51:56)

Dame Vicki Poole proposed that knights and dames pay a $33.33 shipping fee to receive the new No Agenda knighthood pins. This would prevent the show from incurring high administrative and postal costs while providing a new donation stream. The hosts express interest in the idea as a way to manage the logistics of the growing "No Agenda" peerage.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [pins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pins.md), [shipping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shipping.md), dame vicki poole, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Christmas Donation Segment, Listener Karma and Letters (1:51:57–2:06:28)

A lengthy segment dedicated to reading listener letters and acknowledging donations. Highlights include Sir Eric Nagel's donation in lieu of the "Serious Request" event, Dame Joni's travel karma story, and a birthday tribute to Frank Zappa. The hosts also issue "F-cancer" karma and "swass on enough" rewards for various contributors.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), frank zappa, [sauerkraut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sauerkraut.md), [f-cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-cancer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/33.md)

### 34. No Agenda Art and Server Maintenance, Sysadmin Appreciation (2:06:28–2:10:41)

The hosts thank artist Thijs Brouwers for his contributions and discuss the technical challenges of maintaining the No Agenda servers. They describe the constant "pounding" from search bots and malicious scrapers. They praise their system administrators for keeping the show notes and media archives accessible despite these resource-heavy automated attacks.

Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), server maintenance, [sysadmin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sysadmin.md), [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md), [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Final Producer Credits, Culture of Medicated Children (2:10:42–2:15:35)

Final donations are read from Sir Howard G. Hill, Scott Montgomery, and Peter Mulroy. A letter from a teacher prompts a discussion on the "culture of meds" in American schools, where a high percentage of students are on Ritalin, Adderall, or Zoloft. The hosts express concern over the normalization of pharmaceutical dependence among the youth.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [ritalin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ritalin.md), [adderall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adderall.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Dancing on Ice Proposal, Dutch Language Banter (2:15:35–2:19:09)

A humorous proposal involves one host participating in a Dutch "Dancing on Ice" celebrity competition with the other host serving as a "skating coach" using a megaphone. The segment includes jokes in Dutch and a final birthday shout-out to Frank Zappa and other listeners.

Keywords: dancing on ice, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), skating coach, [dutch language](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dutch-language.md), frank zappa

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Knighthood Ceremony, Sir Stephen, Sir Greg, and Sir Maxwell (2:19:09–2:20:46)

The hosts conduct a formal knighthood ceremony for Stephen Jaffe, Greg Wilson, and Maxwell Roberts. They are welcomed to the "No Agenda Round Table" with the traditional list of humorous perks, including "hookers and blow" and "mutton and mead."

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [ceremony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceremony.md), [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md), [chardonnay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chardonnay.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Prince Harry in Afghanistan, Taliban Commander Strike (2:20:48–2:23:59)

British media reports that Prince Harry, nicknamed "Big H" by his comrades, successfully eliminated a Taliban commander during a missile strike from an Apache helicopter. The hosts criticize the "sappy" and "sickening" nature of the coverage, suggesting it serves to glamorize the conflict and distract from other domestic news.

Keywords: [prince harry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-harry.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [apache helicopter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apache-helicopter.md), [hellfire missile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hellfire-missile.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Julian Assange Update, Ecuador Embassy Asylum (2:24:00–2:27:09)

Julian Assange provided an update from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, clarifying that his asylum is primarily related to the United States rather than Sweden. He claims the Swedish government refused to guarantee he would not be extradited to the U.S. if he traveled to Stockholm. The hosts criticize the Swedish government's role in the legal standoff.

Keywords: [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [ecuador](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ecuador.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [extradition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/extradition.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Barbara Walters and Lindsay Lohan, Honey Boo Boo Interview (2:27:10–2:28:51)

Barbara Walters drew criticism for her "douchey" comments regarding the "great expense" of traveling to interview Lindsay Lohan. The hosts also discuss her interview with the reality star "Honey Boo Boo," noting the contrast between the child's behavior and the mother's actual personality off-camera.

Keywords: [barbara walters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-walters.md), [lindsay lohan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsay-lohan.md), [honey boo boo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honey-boo-boo.md), [network television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/network-television.md), [celebrity interviews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-interviews.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Mexican Conehead Skulls, Brooklyn UFO Sighting (2:28:52–2:30:27)

Reports of "conehead" skulls found in a Mexican graveyard are dismissed by the hosts as old news regarding ancient skull-binding practices. Additionally, a video of three glowing lights over Brooklyn is discussed; while some claim it is a UFO formation, the hosts suggest they are likely Chinese lanterns.

Keywords: coneheads, [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [ufo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ufo.md), [brooklyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brooklyn.md), chinese lanterns

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Golden Eagle Baby Snatch Video, CGI Hoax Analysis (2:30:28–2:33:19)

A viral video purportedly showing a golden eagle snatching a toddler in a park was revealed to be a CGI hoax created by animation students. Experts pointed out technical flaws, such as disappearing wings and inconsistent shadows. The hosts use the debunking of this video to draw parallels to their skepticism of other famous historical footage.

Keywords: golden eagle, [viral video](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-video.md), [cgi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cgi.md), 3d animation, [hoax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoax.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Indianapolis House Explosion, Microwave Detonation Theory (2:33:19–2:37:20)

Three individuals were indicted for an Indianapolis house explosion that damaged over 30 homes. Prosecutors allege the suspects filled the house with natural gas and used a timed microwave oven as a detonator for insurance fraud. The hosts cite *MythBusters* to argue that replicating such a massive explosion using only natural gas and a microwave is scientifically improbable.

Keywords: [indianapolis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indianapolis.md), [explosion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/explosion.md), [insurance fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-fraud.md), [mythbusters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mythbusters.md), [natural gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-gas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/43.md)

### 44. UBS LIBOR Fine, Global Interest Rate Rigging (2:37:20–2:40:02)

Swiss bank UBS was ordered to pay a $1.5 billion fine for its role in rigging the LIBOR interest rate. The bank admitted to wire fraud through its Tokyo branch. The hosts argue that the fine is a "slap on the wrist" compared to the trillions of dollars in transactions affected by the manipulation.

Keywords: [ubs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ubs.md), [libor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libor.md), [wire fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wire-fraud.md), [banking scandal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking-scandal.md), [fannie mae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fannie-mae.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Outro and Gene Rosen Raw Audio (2:40:02–2:47:28)

The show concludes with holiday wishes and a plan to return the following Thursday. The final minutes feature raw, unedited audio of Gene Rosen describing his experience with the Sandy Hook children to reporter Erin Burnett. The hosts sign off from Amsterdam and the Pacific Northwest.

Keywords: gene rosen, [newtown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newtown.md), raw audio, holiday sign-off, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/472-conheads-in-mexico/chapter/45.md)

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