# Kill Bill

> Global financial markets teeter on the edge of a derivative-fueled meltdown while the 2008 election cycle descends into a media-driven circus of celebrity and scandal.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 47
- **Published:** 2008-09-13
- **Length:** 1h 55m
- **Topics:** [Lehman Brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lehman-brothers.md), [Sarah Palin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-palin.md), [Hyperinflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hyperinflation.md), [9/11 Truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-truth.md), Damien Hirst, [Oil Prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), XL Travel
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill

## About this episode

Lehman Brothers faces a catastrophic collapse as the U.S. Treasury refuses a bailout, potentially triggering the unwinding of trillions in derivative contracts. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the systemic risk posed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac being placed into conservatorship, while oil prices slide toward $60 despite rising extraction costs in the North Sea. The financial instability coincides with a massive wheat crop failure in the United Kingdom that has caused prices to triple overnight.

In the political arena, Barack Obama faces backlash for his lipstick on a pig remark directed at Sarah Palin, while newly surfaced footage of John McCain in a North Vietnamese prison camp raises questions about his physical health. The collapse of XL Travel has left 89,000 British tourists stranded, and a nine-hour chemical fire in the Channel Tunnel involving phenol remains shrouded in mystery. Meanwhile, the UK government considers above-ground fiber optic rollouts to fix lagging internet infrastructure as European CO2 taxes begin to squeeze the aviation industry.

Damien Hirst bypasses traditional art dealers to sell a formaldehyde-preserved bullock at Sotheby's for millions, prompting a look at the art world as a potential investment scam. John C. Dvorak shares a cautionary tale about the rug market while Adam Curry samples survivalist freeze-dried coffee in preparation for a global food crisis. The program concludes with a look at the 9/11 Truth movement's claims regarding Flight 93 and the suspicious collapse of World Trade Center Building 7.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Audience Growth, Vaccination Controversy (0:03–2:31)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program by announcing that the podcast has surpassed 100,000 listeners per episode, reaching a peak of 135,000. Curry notes an increase in hate mail following his recent comments regarding government-mandated vaccinations for children. The hosts welcome new listeners to the show, which they refer to as a "weekly tune-up" from Gitmo Nation.

Keywords: [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), podcast statistics, [vaccination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccination.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/1.md)

### 2. United Kingdom Flooding, Wheat Crop Failure (2:32–4:15)

Severe weather and flooding in the English Midlands and Northern regions have devastated the local wheat crop. Estimates suggest a third of the normal harvest has been wiped out, causing wheat prices to triple and forcing imports from Germany. This agricultural crisis is expected to drive up global food prices significantly.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), midlands, [flooding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flooding.md), wheat crop, [food prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-prices.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Oil Price Volatility, Drilling Infrastructure Costs (4:15–6:48)

Oil prices are predicted to slide toward $60 per barrel despite production cuts by major producers. Industry insiders report that the base cost of extraction has risen to $40-$45 per barrel due to severe labor shortages and high equipment costs, particularly in the North Sea. Private contractors in conflict zones like Iraq continue to earn high salaries, often exceeding $200,000 annually.

Keywords: [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [halliburton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/halliburton.md), [north sea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-sea.md), drilling infrastructure, [labor shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-shortage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/3.md)

### 4. XL Travel Bankruptcy, Stranded British Tourists (6:48–9:20)

The collapse of XL Travel has left 89,000 British tourists stranded at various vacation destinations. The company filed for bankruptcy after Barclays converted a line of credit into a loan and suppliers demanded immediate cash payments for fuel and landing fees. Chairman Philip Wyatt made a public emotional appeal as 200,000 advanced bookings were rendered worthless.

Keywords: xl travel, [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md), [barclays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barclays.md), stranded passengers, philip wyatt

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/4.md)

### 5. European CO2 Taxes, Carbon Emission Regulations (9:21–11:42)

A new CO2 tax in Europe is being blamed for the financial strain on airlines and industrial sectors. The hosts criticize the tax as a nebulous revenue stream supported by environmental activists. They also reference recent government suggestions that citizens should eat less meat to reduce carbon footprints and methane emissions.

Keywords: co2 tax, [carbon emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-emissions.md), [green movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-movement.md), [methane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/methane.md), [environmental policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environmental-policy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Lehman Brothers Crisis, Financial Market Instability (11:43–14:07)

Lehman Brothers faces potential collapse as the U.S. Treasury refuses to provide a bailout, urging other bankers to intervene. Jim Nussel, Director of the Office of Management and Budget, faced criticism for suggesting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should be on the government's books. Analysts point to unexplained discrepancies in Lehman's financial records as a sign of deep-seated instability.

Keywords: [lehman brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lehman-brothers.md), jim nussel, [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md), [fannie mae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fannie-mae.md), [freddie mac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freddie-mac.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Global Financial Manipulation, Population Reduction Theories (14:07–16:37)

A theory is presented suggesting that the IMF and World Bank are orchestrating a global financial collapse to bankrupt Russia and the Middle East. The discussion posits that the destruction of the financial system and the promotion of vaccinations are part of a broader agenda for population reduction. The hosts link these events to the ongoing conflict in Georgia and oil market speculation.

Keywords: [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), georgia conflict, [population reduction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-reduction.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Emergency Food Supplies, Freeze-Dried Coffee (16:38–17:28)

In preparation for a potential food crisis in Britain, emergency supplies of freeze-dried coffee and other essential ingredients have been stocked. The host samples the instant coffee during the broadcast, noting its quality as a survivalist staple.

Keywords: freeze-dried coffee, [food crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-crisis.md), [survivalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/survivalism.md), [emergency prep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-prep.md), [britain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/britain.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Channel Tunnel Fire, Phenol Chemical Hazards (17:29–21:47)

A severe fire in the Channel Tunnel burned for nine hours at temperatures reaching 1000 degrees Celsius, involving a tanker carrying phenol. While no official reports have cited terrorism, eyewitnesses reported multiple explosions during the incident. Phenol is a highly toxic and corrosive industrial chemical that can cause severe internal damage if absorbed through the skin.

Keywords: [channel tunnel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/channel-tunnel.md), phenol, chemical fire, [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), industrial safety

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Liquid Bomber Trial, Airline Security Restrictions (21:48–25:02)

A UK jury failed to convict the alleged ringleaders of a plot to blow up airplanes with liquid explosives, finding them guilty only of conspiring to commit murder. Virgin Atlantic has called for the removal of the 100ml liquid restriction on flights following the verdict. Despite the lack of evidence for a specific aviation plot, the government intends to retry the defendants.

Keywords: liquid bombers, [heathrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow.md), [virgin atlantic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virgin-atlantic.md), terrorism trial, security liquid ban

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Airport Security Theater, Heathrow Shoe X-Rays (25:02–29:41)

The hosts critique modern airport security measures as "security theater," specifically highlighting the inconsistency of shoe x-rays and liquid bans. They describe methods used to bypass secondary security checkpoints at Heathrow Airport. The discussion suggests that many regulations are designed to manage passenger packing habits rather than prevent actual threats.

Keywords: [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [heathrow airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow-airport.md), [shoe bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shoe-bomber.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Capital Punishment, Televised Executions (29:41–31:54)

The discussion explores the idea of televising executions as a potential deterrent for crime, citing the public impact of the Saddam Hussein hanging video. While one host opposes the death penalty on principle, they argue that if it exists, the reality of the process should be shown to the public. They suggest a reality show format to expose the graphic nature of state-sanctioned killing.

Keywords: [capital punishment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capital-punishment.md), [death penalty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-penalty.md), televised executions, [saddam hussein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saddam-hussein.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Paparazzi Ethics, TMZ Celebrity Coverage (31:54–34:06)

The rise of aggressive paparazzi culture is examined through the lens of TMZ.com and its coverage of celebrities like Lindsay Lohan. The hosts question why the same level of scrutiny and aggressive questioning is not applied to politicians. They suggest that the media's focus on "de-lebrities" distracts from substantive political reporting.

Keywords: [tmz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tmz.md), [paparazzi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paparazzi.md), [celebrity culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-culture.md), [lindsay lohan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsay-lohan.md), political journalism

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Sarah Palin, Media Bias in Election Coverage (34:07–36:19)

The media coverage of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin is characterized as overly negative and mean-spirited. The hosts compare the interpretations of Palin from figures like Rush Limbaugh and Bill Maher, noting a sharp partisan divide. They argue that the aggressive "bashing" of Palin may backfire on the Democratic party by alienating moderate voters.

Keywords: [sarah palin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-palin.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), [2008 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2008-election.md), [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [rush limbaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rush-limbaugh.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Barack Obama, Lipstick on a Pig Controversy (36:20–40:06)

Barack Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment is analyzed as a deliberate insult directed at Sarah Palin. The hosts point to subsequent references to "stinky fish" as evidence of a sexist subtext in the speech. Obama later dismissed the backlash as a "made-up controversy," while critics maintain the phrasing was a rehearsed callback to Palin's convention joke.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), lipstick on a pig, [sarah palin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-palin.md), [political rhetoric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-rhetoric.md), [sexism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Obama Speech Cadence, Haughty Political Tone (40:07–42:47)

The hosts discuss Barack Obama's public speaking style, comparing his "haughty" cadence to that of John Kerry. While acknowledging his humor during an appearance on Letterman, they suggest his formal speech style may eventually alienate voters. The segment highlights the performative nature of modern political campaigning.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), political speeches, [public speaking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-speaking.md), [letterman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/letterman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Democratic Party Strategy, Youth Voter Turnout (42:47–46:15)

The Democratic party's shift toward aggressive, negative campaigning is seen as a risk to their appeal among youth voters. The hosts compare the orchestration of Obama's public persona to the management of a celebrity like Amy Winehouse. They argue that the "celebrity" strategy was effective until the Republican party began using it against them.

Keywords: [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), youth voters, [janeane garofalo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janeane-garofalo.md), [celebrity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-politics.md), [amy winehouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-winehouse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/17.md)

### 18. 2008 Election Dynamics, Sarah Palin Vetting (46:15–48:45)

The selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain's running mate is credited with disrupting the momentum of the Democratic National Convention. The hosts discuss the media's frustration over not being able to "vet" Palin before her announcement. They note that while she was mentioned as a possibility as early as May, the press largely ignored her until the official pick.

Keywords: [2008 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2008-election.md), [sarah palin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarah-palin.md), [republican convention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-convention.md), media vetting, [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/18.md)

### 19. John McCain, Vietnam Release Video (48:46–51:26)

A recently surfaced Swedish video showing John McCain's release from a North Vietnamese prison camp is analyzed. The footage shows McCain limping and saluting, sparking a discussion about his current physical limitations and the extent of his war injuries. The hosts debate whether his inability to raise his arms is a progressive condition resulting from his time as a POW.

Keywords: [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), prisoner of war, swedish video, [physical health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/physical-health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Cindy McCain, Drug Addiction History (51:27–53:45)

Cindy McCain's past struggle with prescription drug addiction, specifically Vicodin and Percocet, is discussed. Reports indicate she obtained the drugs through her own medical foundation, which was intended to provide aid to poor nations. The hosts compare the scrutiny of the McCain family to the intense media focus on Sarah Palin's personal life.

Keywords: [cindy mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cindy-mccain.md), [vicodin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vicodin.md), [drug addiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-addiction.md), medical foundation, [2008 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2008-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Personal Experiences, Lehman Brothers IPO (53:45–56:09)

A host recounts a personal experience from the pre-dot-com era when their company, Think New Ideas, was courted by Lehman Brothers for an IPO. The story describes the bureaucratic and risk-averse nature of the investment bank. Ultimately, the company chose a different firm for their $12 million raise, avoiding a deal with Lehman.

Keywords: [lehman brothers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lehman-brothers.md), [ipo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipo.md), [think new ideas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/think-new-ideas.md), [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md), investment banking

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Credit Default Swaps, Financial Derivative Risks (56:10–58:03)

The placement of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into conservatorship is identified as a "credit event" that could trigger the unwinding of trillions of dollars in derivative contracts. The cost of insuring debt through Lehman Brothers has skyrocketed to nearly a million dollars for every ten million insured. The complexity of these poorly documented deals poses a systemic risk to the global economy.

Keywords: [credit default swaps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-default-swaps.md), [derivatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/derivatives.md), [fannie mae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fannie-mae.md), [freddie mac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freddie-mac.md), [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Google Maps, South Ossetia Border Changes (58:03–59:36)

Reports indicate that Google Maps has removed the borders for South Ossetia, effectively showing the region as part of Georgia. This change occurs amidst the ongoing geopolitical tension between Russia and Georgia. The hosts also note a significant capital flight from the Russian stock market as oil and gas companies struggle to access funding.

Keywords: [google maps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-maps.md), [south ossetia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-ossetia.md), [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), border disputes

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Hyperinflation Economics, Debt Repayment Strategies (59:36–1:03:01)

The discussion explores hyperinflation as a potential mechanism for the United States to pay off its massive national debt with "cheap money." Historical examples from Brazil, Germany, and Argentina are cited to illustrate how rapid inflation devalues debt while causing asset prices to skyrocket. The hosts explain that while this benefits debtors, it requires careful management of interest rates to avoid a total economic stall.

Keywords: [hyperinflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hyperinflation.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [national debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-debt.md), [interest rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/interest-rates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Housing Bubble, Middle Class Home Ownership (1:03:01–1:06:10)

The hosts debate the true scale of the housing crisis, with one arguing that the majority of homeowners are not in danger of foreclosure. They suggest that the financial meltdown is driven more by reckless Wall Street speculation and oil contracts than by the average middle-class mortgage. The segment questions the narrative that most Americans used their homes as "ATMs" through constant refinancing.

Keywords: [housing bubble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/housing-bubble.md), [home ownership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/home-ownership.md), [mortgages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortgages.md), [refinancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refinancing.md), [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/25.md)

### 26. China Debt, Global Currency Shifts (1:06:11–1:08:41)

China's position as the primary holder of U.S. debt is discussed as a point of geopolitical leverage. The hosts suggest that the U.S. could use hyperinflation to effectively "screw over" foreign debt holders. They also note that the European Central Bank is under pressure to devalue the Euro, which has become too high for the stability of the Eurozone.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), u.s. debt, currency markets, [euro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euro.md), [hyperinflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hyperinflation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Zimbabwe Hyperinflation, Robert Mugabe (1:08:42–1:10:45)

Zimbabwe serves as a modern example of hyperinflation run amok, where currency is traded in "bricks" due to its worthlessness. Despite the election of Morgan Tsvangirai, Robert Mugabe remains in power through the use of secret police. The hosts discuss the difficulty of removing Mugabe and express interest in collecting the nearly worthless high-denomination Zimbabwe notes.

Keywords: [zimbabwe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zimbabwe.md), [robert mugabe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mugabe.md), [hyperinflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hyperinflation.md), morgan tsvangirai, [currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/27.md)

### 28. International Wine Pricing, Market Discrepancies (1:10:46–1:12:57)

A comparison of Bordeaux wine prices reveals that the same bottle is significantly cheaper in California than in London, despite the proximity of France to the UK. The hosts argue that these discrepancies point to a "cock-eyed" global trade system and currency manipulation. They note that European tourists are currently flocking to the U.S. to buy imported European goods at a discount.

Keywords: [wine prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine-prices.md), [bordeaux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bordeaux.md), [international trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-trade.md), shipping costs, [currency exchange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency-exchange.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Damien Hirst, Sotheby's Art Auction (1:12:58–1:17:17)

Artist Damien Hirst is bypassing traditional dealers to sell his work directly through Sotheby's, with an estimated total value of 65 million pounds. The centerpiece of the auction is "The Golden Calf," a bullock preserved in formaldehyde with 18-karat gold horns. The hosts discuss the art world as a potential scam and the risks of investing in living artists.

Keywords: damien hirst, [sotheby's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sotheby-s.md), golden calf, [art market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/art-market.md), investment art

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Rug Collecting, Expert Advice (1:17:18–1:18:45)

A host shares an anecdote about seeking advice from a rug expert regarding the purchase of Turkish and Persian carpets. The expert's singular piece of advice was that "whatever you paid for a rug, you paid too much." The discussion highlights the complexity and potential for overpayment in the handmade carpet market.

Keywords: turkish rugs, [persian rugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/persian-rugs.md), carpet collecting, afghan rugs, [antiques](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antiques.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/30.md)

### 31. UK Fiber Rollout, Above-Ground Infrastructure (1:18:45–1:22:55)

The UK government is considering allowing fiber optic cables to be run above ground to accelerate the rollout of high-speed internet. While common in the U.S., above-ground wiring is rare in many European countries due to aesthetic concerns. One host expresses a preference for the "charming" look of telephone poles, while noting their own reliance on a Vodafone wireless dongle for faster upload speeds.

Keywords: [fiber optics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiber-optics.md), [bandwidth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bandwidth.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [vodafone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vodafone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Bill Clinton, Health and Political Rumors (1:22:55–1:25:20)

Bill Clinton's recent public appearance alongside Barack Obama has sparked rumors about his health, with observers noting he appeared thin and "slurry." The hosts speculate on the internal dynamics of the Clinton family, suggesting Bill wants Obama to win to avoid a 2012 run by Hillary. They discuss the potential for a "sympathy vote" should Bill's health decline further before the election.

Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [2008 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2008-election.md), [health rumors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-rumors.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Bill Clinton, Post-Presidency Lifestyle (1:25:21–1:27:45)

The discussion touches on Bill Clinton's lifestyle after leaving the White House, including his lucrative career on the speaking circuit. The hosts revisit rumors of past drug use and compare his physical transformation to that of a seriously ill Steve Jobs. They suggest that being the "First Gentleman" would significantly restrict his personal and financial freedom.

Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), speaking circuit, coke head, [heart disease](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-disease.md), [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Election Predictions, Landslide Theories (1:27:45–1:30:07)

Prominent figures on both sides of the political aisle are predicting a landslide victory for their respective candidates. Salman Rushdie and Janeane Garofalo expressed certainty of an Obama landslide on Bill Maher's program, while Rush Limbaugh suggests McCain could win decisively. The hosts analyze these conflicting "echo chamber" predictions as the election nears.

Keywords: [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [salman rushdie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salman-rushdie.md), [janeane garofalo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janeane-garofalo.md), [rush limbaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rush-limbaugh.md), [election predictions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-predictions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Ron Paul, Third Party Endorsements (1:30:08–1:34:10)

Ron Paul held a press conference to highlight third-party alternatives, including Bob Barr (Libertarian), Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party), Cynthia McKinney (Green Party), and Ralph Nader. While Paul did not endorse a single candidate, he encouraged voters to look beyond the two-party system. The event received minimal mainstream media coverage despite the high profile of the participants.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [bob barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-barr.md), chuck baldwin, [cynthia mckinney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cynthia-mckinney.md), [ralph nader](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ralph-nader.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/35.md)

### 36. 9/11 Truth, Pentagon Flight Data (1:34:10–1:36:52)

The segment examines claims from the group "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" regarding the flight data recorder from the plane that hit the Pentagon. The group alleges that the NTSB data shows the aircraft was at an altitude that would have overflown the building. They argue that the maneuvers required to hit the side of the Pentagon were impossible for a 757, suggesting a missile was used instead.

Keywords: [9/11 truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-truth.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [black box](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-box.md), [pilots for 9/11 truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilots-for-9-11-truth.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Flight 93, Donald Rumsfeld Slip (1:36:53–1:39:59)

A video clip of Donald Rumsfeld is presented where he refers to the plane in Pennsylvania being "shot down." Truthers point to this as a Freudian slip that contradicts the official narrative of a passenger revolt on Flight 93. The discussion also highlights the lack of physical debris at the crash site and the suspicious recovery of a hijacker's passport.

Keywords: [flight 93](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-93.md), [donald rumsfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-rumsfeld.md), [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md), [9/11 commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-commission.md), [freudian slip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freudian-slip.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/37.md)

### 38. World Trade Center, Building 7 Collapse (1:40:00–1:43:45)

The collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 is discussed as a primary point of contention for 9/11 skeptics. The hosts criticize the NIST report, which claimed that unprecedented magnetic changes in the steel allowed it to weaken at low temperatures. They argue that the official explanation for the free-fall collapse of the building is scientifically "laughable" and insulting to the public.

Keywords: [world trade center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-center.md), [building 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/building-7.md), [nist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nist.md), steel melting, [9/11 report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-report.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/38.md)

### 39. William Rodriguez, WTC Basement Explosions (1:43:45–1:45:18)

William Rodriguez, a former caretaker at the World Trade Center, has provided eyewitness testimony regarding explosions in the basement levels before the planes hit the towers. His accounts, which include descriptions of victims with severe burns from the basement blasts, were reportedly ignored by the 9/11 Commission. The hosts note that these stories have been promoted by figures like Rosie O'Donnell on her blog.

Keywords: william rodriguez, [rosie o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rosie-o-donnell.md), wtc explosions, [eyewitness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eyewitness.md), [9/11 commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-commission.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Political Theater, Manchurian Candidate Theories (1:45:20–1:47:35)

The hosts discuss the possibility that major historical events and political figures are part of a grand "comedy act" orchestrated by elite groups like the Council on Foreign Relations. They speculate that Barack Obama's rise and even his middle name, Hussein, could be a deliberate provocation to test public gullibility. This theory posits that both major candidates are controlled by the same interests.

Keywords: [pearl harbor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pearl-harbor.md), [reichstag fire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reichstag-fire.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [council on foreign relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/council-on-foreign-relations.md), [conspiracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Internet Information, Zbigniew Brzezinski (1:47:36–1:49:03)

The internet is described as a tool that has disrupted the traditional media's ability to control information, allowing the public to find "doctored" government videos. Zbigniew Brzezinski's book, "The Grand Chessboard," is cited as a blueprint for current U.S. foreign policy and the orchestration of the conflict in Georgia. Brzezinski, an advisor to Obama, is linked to George Soros and the funding of the 2008 campaign.

Keywords: [zbigniew brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zbigniew-brzezinski.md), [the grand chessboard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-grand-chessboard.md), [internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet.md), [information warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/information-warfare.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Afghanistan Tanks, Iran Invasion Theory (1:49:05–1:52:43)

Large Ukrainian Antonov transport planes have been spotted unloading tanks in Afghanistan, a move that analysts find suspicious given the mountainous terrain. The hosts theorize that these tanks are actually being positioned for a ground invasion of Iran, which has terrain more suitable for armored warfare. They suggest that both Obama and McCain's plans to move troops to Afghanistan serve this hidden agenda.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), antonov, [tanks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tanks.md), [dick cheney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-cheney.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Hurricane Ike, Media Coverage Outro (1:52:45–1:55:13)

The show concludes with a discussion of Hurricane Ike's impact on Texas and a critique of sensationalist weather reporting by figures like Geraldo Rivera. Adam Curry mentions taking his daughter to Wagamama, an English noodle chain, while John Dvorak prepares to watch a college football game. The hosts sign off, promising to return the following week.

Keywords: [hurricane ike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-ike.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [geraldo rivera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geraldo-rivera.md), wagamama, [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/47-kill-bill/chapter/43.md)

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