# Red Washcloth

> A visa crisis strands the show in Amsterdam while the media apparatus synchronizes a new doomsday script for Syria and the Senate debates international sovereignty.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 467
- **Published:** 2012-12-06
- **Length:** 2h 26m
- **Topics:** Visa Crisis, Syria Script, Putin MIA, UN Treaty, DSM-5 Hoarding, [Fiscal Cliff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiscal-cliff.md), [Sarin Gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarin-gas.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth

## About this episode

Adam Curry and Mickey Hoogendyke face a sudden bureaucratic exile in Amsterdam after U.S. Customs and Immigration Services denied Hoogendyke re-entry due to a technical visa complication. The incident forces a broadcast from the Netherlands as Secretary Janet Napolitano’s department maintains a hard line on pending green card applications. Meanwhile, the Dutch public reacts with fury to the fatal beating of a volunteer football referee by youth players, further straining a national environment already tense from Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s controversial Greek bailout contributions.

Global instability deepens as rumors of an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin circulate following his unexplained absence from the public eye. In Washington, Press Secretary Jay Carney appears to follow a scripted narrative regarding Syrian chemical weapons, while CNN and NBC synchronize reports on sarin gas doomsday scenarios involving the Assad regime. These intelligence claims mirror previous media cycles used to justify intervention in Iraq and Libya. Simultaneously, Amnesty International reports on a human rights catastrophe in Yemen involving public executions by Ansar al-Sharia, and the U.S. Senate blocks the UN Treaty on the Rights of the Disabled over sovereignty concerns raised by Senator Mike Lee.

Domestic policy shifts as the FDA considers revoking artificially sweetened labeling requirements for fruit jams, potentially hiding chemical additives from consumers. The episode features a knighting ceremony for Wade Ostrander and Andrew Lassemany, while John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry analyze the "red washcloth" trend in preschools designed to hide blood from children. The hosts also scrutinize the DSM-5’s new classification of hoarding as a mental disorder and the viral social contract rhetoric of Elizabeth Warren.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry, Mickey Hoogendyke, Amsterdam Visa Complications (0:00–11:14)

Adam Curry reports from Amsterdam, Netherlands, following a travel complication involving his wife, Mickey Hoogendyke. Hoogendyke was denied re-entry to the United States due to a technical visa issue and a pending green card application. Curry details the bureaucratic hurdles involving U.S. Customs and Immigration Services and Secretary Janet Napolitano, noting he expects to remain in Europe for at least two weeks while an immigration lawyer attempts to expedite the paperwork.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), mickey hoogendyke, [visa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/visa.md), [green card](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-card.md), [janet napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-napolitano.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), immigration lawyer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Dutch Amateur Football Referee Fatality, Moroccan Youth Involvement (11:14–15:28)

A volunteer football referee in the Netherlands was reportedly kicked to death by three 15-year-old players of Moroccan descent following an amateur match. The incident has intensified national debates regarding immigration and social integration in the Dutch "tinderbox" environment. Additionally, public frustration is rising against Prime Minister Mark Rutte over a 40 billion euro tranche contributed to the Greek bailout despite campaign promises to the contrary.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [football](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/football.md), referee, moroccan immigrants, [austerity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austerity.md), [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), greece bailout

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/2.md)

### 3. No Agenda Executive Producers, Silent Knight Contributions (15:28–21:01)

The hosts acknowledge executive producers and donors for episode 467, including a $2,000 contribution from Wade Ostrander on behalf of two "Silent Knights." A discussion ensues regarding professional voice-over requests for business answering machines as part of the value-for-value exchange. Technical difficulties with a Dell Ultrabook and Skype avatars are noted during the donor rundown.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), wade ostrander, craig harms, silent nights, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), dell ultrabook

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Vladimir Putin, Assassination Rumors and MIA Status (21:01–23:19)

Speculation arises regarding the public absence of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Reports suggest a potential assassination attempt involving an explosion targeting his convoy upon his return from a conference. Alternative theories regarding his absence include a back injury sustained during a "Dancing with the Stars" appearance or a recovery period involving medicinal codeine.

Keywords: [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [assassination attempt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assassination-attempt.md), convoy explosion, [mia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mia.md), [dancing with the stars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dancing-with-the-stars.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Jay Carney, Scripted Syria Chemical Weapons Briefing (23:19–25:55)

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is criticized for a briefing segment that appeared heavily scripted. During the exchange, Carney seemingly answered a question about the Assad regime's potential use of chemical weapons before the reporter finished asking it. The hosts interpret this as evidence of a coordinated media narrative regarding Syrian proliferation.

Keywords: [jay carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-carney.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md), [white house briefing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-briefing.md), [scripted news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scripted-news.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/5.md)

### 6. CNN Syria Doomsday Scenario, Sarin Gas Impact Projections (25:56–28:27)

CNN's Erin Burnett and Barbara Starr report on Pentagon sources detailing a "doomsday scenario" involving chemical attacks in Syria. The coverage includes a projection by former CIA operative Bob Bair showing the potential impact of a single sarin gas shell on the city of Homs, estimating 18,000 deaths. The report emphasizes the risk of chemical clouds drifting across borders into Israel, Turkey, and Jordan.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [erin burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-burnett.md), [barbara starr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-starr.md), [sarin gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarin-gas.md), [homs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homs.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [bob baer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-baer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/6.md)

### 7. NBC and CNN, Syria Chemical Weapon Narrative Synchronization (28:28–32:25)

NBC News and CNN are highlighted for synchronized reporting on Syrian military forces allegedly loading chemical weapons into aerial bombs. Anderson Cooper and Brian Williams present intelligence claims that Bashar al-Assad is awaiting final orders to use these weapons. The hosts suggest the timing of these reports is intended to distract from other issues like Benghazi and to capitalize on perceived Russian weakness.

Keywords: [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md), [brian williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-williams.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), aerial bombs, [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Media Script Comparison, Iraq and Libya Precedents (32:26–37:29)

The current media narrative regarding Syria is compared to previous "scripts" used during the conflicts in Iraq and Libya. The hosts discuss how rumors of asylum and chemical threats are recycled to justify military intervention. They also touch upon the domestic use of chemical agents, such as pepper spray against protesters in the United States, contrasting it with the international outrage over Syrian stockpiles.

Keywords: [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md), [gaddafi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaddafi.md), [algeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algeria.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [media scripts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-scripts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Amnesty International, Yemen Human Rights Catastrophe Report (37:30–39:52)

Amnesty International released a report detailing a human rights catastrophe in southern Yemen's Abyan region. The report alleges that an Al-Qaeda-linked militia, Ansar al-Sharia, carried out public executions, crucifixions, and amputations between February and June. Concurrently, an attack on an oil pipeline near the Gulf of Aden resulted in the loss of 8,000 barrels of crude oil per day.

Keywords: [amnesty international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amnesty-international.md), [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), abyan, [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md), [executions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executions.md), [oil pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-pipeline.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Congressional Autism Hearings, Pharmaceutical Industry Influence (39:53–43:42)

A listener request prompts a discussion on recent congressional hearings regarding autism. The hosts argue that the medical industry and pharmaceutical companies influence these hearings to promote drug prescriptions for children. They reference the DSM-5 and the "Thinking Moms' Revolution" book as part of the broader conversation on autism advocacy and medicalization.

Keywords: [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md), [dsm-5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsm-5.md), [pharmaceutical companies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-companies.md), [congressional hearings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-hearings.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/10.md)

### 11. No Agenda Producer Donations, Book and Business Promotions (43:46–48:50)

The hosts process various donations from associate executive producers, including Andrew Lassemany and Wade Demme. Promotions include a novel titled "The End of Marvelous" by Mandrew Jones and a recommendation for Marty Leeds' work on numerology. The segment concludes with a discussion on creating No Agenda QSL cards for listeners.

Keywords: mandrew jones, [qsl cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qsl-cards.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [anchorage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anchorage.md), [numerology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/numerology.md), marty leeds

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Lawrence O'Donnell, Jovan Belcher Murder-Suicide Commentary (48:50–52:40)

MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell is criticized for his commentary on the murder-suicide involving Kansas City Chiefs player Jovan Belcher. O'Donnell's analysis, which touched on gun control and the culture of football, is characterized by the hosts as nonsensical. They specifically mock a metaphor comparing Babe Ruth's bat to gun ownership.

Keywords: [lawrence o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lawrence-o-donnell.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [bob costas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-costas.md), jovan belcher, [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [kansas city chiefs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kansas-city-chiefs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/12.md)

### 13. UN Treaty on the Rights of the Disabled, Senate Ratification Debate (52:41–59:15)

The U.S. Senate's failure to ratify the UN Treaty on the Rights of the Disabled sparks a debate on national sovereignty. While proponents like John Kerry and Lawrence O'Donnell argue the treaty exports American standards, opponents and the podcast hosts suggest it is an unnecessary entanglement with a foreign body. Joe Scarborough's emotional appeal regarding "wounded warriors" is also analyzed.

Keywords: [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), disability treaty, [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), richard lugar, [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Mike Lee, Homeschooling Concerns and UN Overreach (59:16–1:03:54)

Senator Mike Lee expresses concern that the UN disability treaty could allow a Geneva-based committee to interfere with homeschooling and parental rights in the U.S. The hosts further discuss the impracticality of international disability mandates, such as wheelchair ramps for historical sites like the Eiffel Tower, and warn of future treaties targeting internet freedom.

Keywords: [mike lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-lee.md), [homeschooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeschooling.md), [geneva](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geneva.md), [eiffel tower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eiffel-tower.md), [internet freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-freedom.md), un treaties

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Marijuana Legalization, Federal Supremacy vs. Tenth Amendment (1:03:55–1:08:31)

The conflict between Washington State's marijuana legalization and federal law is examined. The hosts criticize MSNBC for failing to discuss the Tenth Amendment and state rights, focusing instead on the Obama administration's enforcement options. They argue that the federal government's refusal to yield on the Controlled Substances Act is a move toward total federalization.

Keywords: [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), [tenth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tenth-amendment.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [federal law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-law.md), controlled substances act

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Rachel Maddow, David Petraeus and Fox News Recruitment Tape (1:08:31–1:13:43)

Rachel Maddow's coverage of a leaked 2011 audio tape involving General David Petraeus and Fox News analyst Kathleen McFarland is scrutinized. The tape suggests Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes encouraged Petraeus to run for president. The hosts highlight Petraeus's comments about the CIA being a "growth industry" due to military budget cuts and secret operations.

Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [david petraeus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-petraeus.md), [roger ailes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roger-ailes.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), kathleen mcfarland

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/16.md)

### 17. FDA Labeling, Artificial Sweetener Standards Revocation (1:13:44–1:17:09)

A report from the Federal Register reveals that the fruit and jam industry petitioned the FDA to revoke "artificially sweetened" labeling requirements. The FDA tentatively concluded that terms like "reduced sugar" or "low calorie" are more consumer-friendly. The hosts characterize this as a deceptive labeling scam that hides the use of chemical sweeteners.

Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [federal register](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-register.md), artificial sweeteners, fruit jam, [labeling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labeling.md), reduced sugar

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Senate Unanimous Consent, National Nurse Managed Health Clinic Week (1:17:10–1:21:56)

C-SPAN footage shows Senator Carl Levin using unanimous consent to pass various resolutions, including the designation of "National Nurse Managed Health Clinic Week" and "American Diabetes Month." The hosts argue that these procedural actions waste public time and are used to slip minor provisions into the record without debate.

Keywords: [carl levin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carl-levin.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [unanimous consent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unanimous-consent.md), [diabetes month](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diabetes-month.md), [federal register](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-register.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Hanukkah Donations, Jewish Listener Contributions (1:22:04–1:27:52)

A donation of $88.88 from Matthew Parker initiates a discussion on Hanukkah and contributions from Jewish listeners. The hosts joke about "cheap" stereotypes before acknowledging the "Hanukkah Donation" and providing "karmic combos" for the holiday season.

Keywords: [hanukkah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hanukkah.md), matthew parker, dreidel, chocolate coins, [judaism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judaism.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Catalonia Independence, The Economist 2013 Predictions (1:27:52–1:31:06)

A donor from Catalonia, Spain, mentions an article in "The Economist" regarding the year 2013. The article reportedly classifies the podcast hosts as "crackpots." The discussion briefly touches on the movement for Catalonian independence and the significance of the number 33 in numerology.

Keywords: [catalonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catalonia.md), [barcelona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barcelona.md), [the economist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-economist.md), [2013](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2013.md), [crackpots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crackpots.md), [patrick coble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-coble.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/20.md)

### 21. LGBT Rights, The Weekend Gay Podcast Support (1:31:07–1:34:03)

A donor from "The Weekend Gay" podcast thanks the hosts for their support of LGBT rights and the No Agenda network. The segment includes a request for a "sexy" ringtone from John C. Dvorak and a discussion on providing information to co-workers about flu vaccines.

Keywords: [lgbt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbt.md), the weekend gay, [flu vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-vaccine.md), [ringtones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ringtones.md), [innuendo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/innuendo.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Red Washcloths, Preschool Safety Trends (1:34:04–1:35:49)

The hosts discuss a trend in preschools using red washcloths to hide the sight of blood from children who skin their knees or have bloody noses. Citing author Wendy Mogul, they argue this practice contributes to a lack of resilience in younger generations, famously referred to as building a "nation of pussies."

Keywords: wendy mogul, [preschool](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/preschool.md), red washcloths, [safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safety.md), [parenting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parenting.md), blessing of the scraped knee

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Elizabeth Warren, Viral Social Contract Video (1:35:52–1:38:11)

A viral video of Elizabeth Warren discussing the "social contract" is analyzed. In the clip, Warren argues that wealthy individuals owe their success to public infrastructure like roads and police, and should "pay it forward." The hosts link this rhetoric to the "noodle-kid" mentality of entitlement.

Keywords: [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), [social contract](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-contract.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Protector Systems, Manual Water Treatment Startup (1:38:13–1:44:06)

Jason Green, founder of Protector Systems, promotes his for-profit venture that builds manual-powered water treatment systems for developing regions. He cites his donation as an advertising expense for the IRS and encourages listeners to support the company's Facebook page to demonstrate tangible benefits.

Keywords: protector systems, [water treatment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/water-treatment.md), [capitalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitalism.md), [startup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/startup.md), [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), advertising expense

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/24.md)

### 25. No Agenda Knighthood, Wade Ostrander and Andrew Lassemany (1:44:09–1:47:50)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a knighting ceremony for Wade Ostrander and Andrew Lassemany. Curry, broadcasting from Amsterdam, jokes about carrying a sword and slide whistle through airport security. The new knights are welcomed to the "No Agenda Round Table" with the traditional list of celebratory items.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), wade ostrander, andrew lassemany, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [sword](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sword.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/25.md)

### 26. HIV/AIDS Denialism, Truvada and Peter Duesberg (1:47:51–1:57:24)

The hosts discuss the controversial hypothesis of Berkeley professor Peter Duesberg, who claims HIV does not cause AIDS. They critique Hillary Clinton's "blueprint" for an AIDS-free generation as a sales pitch for the drug Truvada. The segment references the documentary "House of Numbers" and a recent Joe Rogan podcast episode featuring Duesberg's theories on antiretroviral medication.

Keywords: [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), [aids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aids.md), [truvada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truvada.md), [peter duesberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-duesberg.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [house of numbers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-numbers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/26.md)

### 27. British Parliament, Arrogant Posh Boys Debate (1:57:26–2:01:20)

Clips from the British House of Commons feature heated exchanges regarding Chancellor George Osborne and Prime Minister David Cameron. MP Dennis Skinner and others refer to the leaders as "arrogant posh boys" who are out of touch with the economic reality of the nation. The hosts clarify a confusion between Osborne and George Galloway.

Keywords: [george osborne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-osborne.md), [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md), dennis skinner, posh boys, fiscal rule, [uk parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk-parliament.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Fiscal Cliff, Howard Dean on Tax Increases (2:01:23–2:03:42)

Howard Dean argues that taxes must be raised across the board, not just for the wealthy, to address the U.S. deficit. The hosts interpret the "fiscal cliff" as a manufactured crisis designed to implement austerity measures while allowing politicians to shift blame for the inevitable tax hikes.

Keywords: [fiscal cliff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiscal-cliff.md), [howard dean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-dean.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), [austerity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austerity.md), [deficit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deficit.md), [middle class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-class.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Alternative Minimum Tax, The 2012 Tax Patch Crisis (2:03:42–2:10:59)

A detailed explanation of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) reveals a looming crisis for 30 million Americans. Without a congressional "patch" for the 2012 tax year, the AMT will trigger significantly higher tax rates for those earning around $70,000. The hosts highlight that this issue affects the current tax year and will be felt by taxpayers in early 2013.

Keywords: [amt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amt.md), [alternative minimum tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alternative-minimum-tax.md), tax patch, [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [middle class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-class.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Credit Scores, Personal IRS Tax Lien Experience (2:11:01–2:13:20)

A host shares a personal story about a $143,000 IRS dispute that resulted in a tax lien on all assets and a credit score of 320. The anecdote illustrates the difficulty of navigating the modern financial system and the "scam" of credit scoring, which requires individuals to borrow money to prove creditworthiness.

Keywords: [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [tax lien](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-lien.md), [credit score](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-score.md), car loan, trade lines, [meveo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meveo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Proposition 30, Hoarding Recognized as Mental Condition (2:13:23–2:15:43)

The hosts discuss California's Proposition 30, which voters passed to increase state taxes. They contrast this with the new official recognition of "hoarding" as a mental condition in the DSM-5. They joke that hoarding can be rebranded as "archiving" to avoid the clinical diagnosis.

Keywords: proposition 30, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), [hoarding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoarding.md), [dsm-5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsm-5.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Hillary Clinton, Tribute Video and 2016 Speculation (2:15:46–2:19:27)

A tribute video for Hillary Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State is mocked for its campaign-like production. Media commentators describe her as a "young woman" despite her being 66 and eligible for Social Security. The hosts view the video and subsequent media coverage as the beginning of her 2016 presidential run.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [2016 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2016-election.md), [secretary of state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-of-state.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [meme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meme.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Sing for the Climate, Doha Summit Propaganda (2:19:28–2:22:08)

The "Sing for the Climate" campaign at the Doha summit is criticized as ineffective propaganda. Five percent of the Belgian population reportedly participated in singing the song to influence climate negotiators. The hosts suggest that better "indoctrination" music could be produced by their own contributors.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), doha summit, [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), sing for the climate, [agenda 21](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agenda-21.md), [kevin reeves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-reeves.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Hurricane Statistics, Iceberg Calving Stock Footage (2:22:09–2:26:29)

NOAA reports that 2012 was an active but not exceptional hurricane year, with ten busier years in the last three decades. Additionally, a listener points out that dramatic iceberg calving footage used by ABC News is often stock footage from "Calving Cafes" where tourists on cruise ships watch ice break off annually.

Keywords: [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [hurricanes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricanes.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), iceberg calving, [stock footage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-footage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/467-red-washcloth/chapter/34.md)

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