# Hillary Doesn't Sweat

> A $10 billion pipeline deal reshapes the Syrian conflict while the hosts navigate technical glitches, mortgage fraud, and the curious lack of perspiration from the Secretary of State.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 435
- **Published:** 2012-08-16
- **Length:** 2h 52m
- **Topics:** Islamic Pipeline, MERS fraud, [Hillary Clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [Leon Panetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leon-panetta.md), Standard Chartered, Moab tour
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat

## About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from Moab, Utah, to dissect a $10 billion natural gas pipeline deal involving Syria, Iran, and Iraq that threatens NATO energy dominance. The hosts analyze Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s warnings regarding the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps training militias, framing the Syrian conflict as a proxy war over the Russian-owned port of Tartus. State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland’s recent admissions suggest U.S. intervention remains contingent on oil collateral rather than humanitarian concerns.

Secondary developments include Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi ousting Field Marshal Tantawi in a strategic counter-coup and the USS Porter’s collision with a Japanese tanker near the Strait of Hormuz. Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren has signaled a closing window for diplomacy with Iran, while the Department of Justice investigates a school-to-prison pipeline in Meridian, Mississippi. In the private sector, the Carlyle Group’s $3.3 billion acquisition of Getty Images raises questions about future copyright enforcement, and Standard Chartered Bank’s $340 million settlement for laundering Iranian funds is characterized as a regulatory shakedown. John C. Dvorak also details his personal legal battle with Bank of America over MERS mortgage fraud in Washington state.

Distinctive moments include a humorous analysis of a Condé Nast Traveler report claiming Hillary Clinton does not sweat, fueling jokes about David Icke’s reptilian theories. The hosts also mock the London 2012 Olympics closing ceremonies and a jet skier who successfully breached JFK Airport security by walking across active runways. Justin Hill and other executive producers provide the financial backbone for this tour-stop broadcast from the Arches National Park region.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/transcript.md.

### 1. Arches National Park, Stargate Theories, Moab 4G Connectivity (0:00–3:00)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Moab, Utah, during the Hot Pockets 2009 tour. They discuss the technical challenges of streaming over a 4G connection for the first time. The conversation shifts to the unique rock formations of Arches National Park and a humorous discussion regarding local legends of stargates and radio signals.

Keywords: arches national park, [moab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moab.md), [utah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/utah.md), stargates, 4g network, [hot pockets tour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-pockets-tour.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Hot Pockets Tour, Rick Smith, Flickr Copyright Issues (3:02–8:13)

The tour moves from Boise, Idaho, to Twin Falls, where the hosts stayed with producer Rick Smith. A discussion ensues regarding the difficulty of sharing tour photos on Flickr due to restrictive copyright settings despite Creative Commons licenses. Rick Smith, a former truck driver and firefighter, provided the hosts with specialized trucker music and fire-fighting playlists for their journey.

Keywords: [twin falls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twin-falls.md), [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md), rick smith, [flickr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flickr.md), [creative commons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creative-commons.md), [yahoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yahoo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Salt Lake City Meetup, LDS Faith, White Horse Prophecy (8:14–14:17)

A meetup in Salt Lake City leads to a discussion about the Latter-day Saints (LDS) faith and the "White Horse Prophecy" attributed to Joseph Smith. The prophecy suggests the U.S. Constitution will one day hang by a thread and be saved by a Mormon. The hosts analyze Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman through this lens and discuss the LDS genealogical database used for posthumous baptisms.

Keywords: [salt lake city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salt-lake-city.md), [lds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lds.md), [mormonism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mormonism.md), [joseph smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joseph-smith.md), white horse prophecy, [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Olympic Closing Ceremonies, Zombie Virus Theory, Pedo Bear (14:21–16:45)

The hosts briefly review the closing ceremonies of the London 2012 Olympics. They mention a conspiracy theory from the Salt Lake City meetup suggesting Olympic athletes were infected with a "zombie virus" to spread globally. There is also a humorous mention of a "Pedo Bear" mascot appearing to hug athletes during the event.

Keywords: 2012 olympics, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [rio de janeiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rio-de-janeiro.md), zombie virus, [pedo bear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedo-bear.md), mascots

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Executive Producer Donations, Justin Hill, Eponymous (16:47–21:11)

Justin Hill from Provo, Utah, is credited as an Executive Producer for a $333.33 donation, sharing a story about his history with the show and a personal rivalry with Justin Peck. Another donation from Eponymous in Queensland is acknowledged. The hosts emphasize the importance of listener support during the slow August donation period.

Keywords: justin hill, provo, [utah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/utah.md), eponymous, [queensland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queensland.md), [listener supported](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-supported.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Curry-Dvorak 2012, Write-In Candidates, Cabinet Appointments (21:11–28:23)

Adam Curry proposes a write-in campaign for the 2012 general election with himself as President and Dvorak as Vice President. They discuss the legality of write-in stickers, citing Lisa Murkowski's success in Alaska. The proposed "No Agenda" cabinet includes Ron Paul for Treasury, Judge Napolitano for Justice, Ted Nugent for Defense, and Hillary Clinton for State.

Keywords: [write-in candidate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/write-in-candidate.md), [lisa murkowski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisa-murkowski.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [judge napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judge-napolitano.md), [ted nugent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-nugent.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Barack Obama, American Dream Definition, Economic Bargain (28:26–32:18)

President Barack Obama's speech in Iowa is analyzed for its definition of the American Dream. The hosts compare historical definitions from 1931 to Obama's current "basic bargain" rhetoric. They criticize the shift from a dream of prosperity to a "deal" focused on simply paying bills and accumulating education debt.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [iowa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa.md), [american dream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-dream.md), james truslow adams, [middle class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-class.md), education debt

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Obama Script Flubs, By Hook or By Crook Etymology (32:18–36:14)

The hosts mock a verbal slip by President Obama regarding manufacturing job growth since the Great Depression. They also deconstruct his use of the phrase "by hook or by crook," exploring its 14th-century origins related to theft and perjury. The segment ends with travel updates for upcoming meetups in Ouray and Albuquerque.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [etymology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etymology.md), [manufacturing jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing-jobs.md), [great depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/great-depression.md), ouray, [albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Julian Assange, Ecuadorian Embassy, Andrea Davidson Conspiracy (36:15–43:20)

The standoff at the Ecuadorian embassy in London is discussed, with the hosts questioning why the UK is so intent on extraditing Julian Assange. They explore a theory involving Andrea Davidson, an intelligence advisor with evidence of UK arms dealings with Saddam Hussein, who may be seeking refuge in the same embassy.

Keywords: [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), [ecuador](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ecuador.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), andrea davidson, [david kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-kelly.md), [iraq inquiry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-inquiry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Lottery Winners, No Agenda Inheritance Dream (43:21–45:18)

A discussion about a recent lottery winner who claimed his life wouldn't change leads to a story about a dream where the No Agenda show inherited $10 million. The hosts conclude that the show's charm comes from being "broke" and living the "American Promise" of just getting by.

Keywords: [lottery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lottery.md), [wealth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth.md), [inheritance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inheritance.md), dream, american promise

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Syrian MiG Shot Down, Fighter Pilot Requirements (45:20–48:13)

The hosts analyze footage of a Syrian MiG allegedly shot down by rebels with light weaponry. They express skepticism regarding the captured pilot's appearance, noting he lacks a flight suit and has a beard. Dvorak explains that fighter pilots cannot have facial hair due to oxygen mask seal requirements and fire hazards.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), mig-23, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), fighter pilot, oxygen safety, [beards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beards.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Leon Panetta, Iranian Involvement in Syria, Militia Training (48:13–52:21)

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta's briefing on Iranian influence in Syria is reviewed. Panetta expresses "deep concern" over the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) training militias to support the Assad regime. The hosts interpret his language as a scripted warning that Iran is playing its "role" at the wrong time.

Keywords: [leon panetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leon-panetta.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [irgc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irgc.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [militia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/militia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Victoria Nuland, Syrian Oil Wealth, Marshall Plan (52:21–56:16)

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland is questioned by reporter Matt Lee regarding the lack of military intervention in Syria compared to Libya or Iraq. Nuland claims Syria lacks the "vast natural wealth" of Iraq, leading the hosts to conclude that the U.S. interest is strictly tied to a country's ability to pay for its own rebuilding via oil collateral.

Keywords: [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), rebuilding

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Islamic Pipeline Deal, Turkey-Syria Relations, Kurdish Geopolitics (56:17–1:04:09)

The hosts present a theory that the Syrian conflict is driven by a $10 billion natural gas pipeline deal signed between Syria, Iran, and Iraq. This "Islamic Pipeline" would bypass Turkey and terminate at the Russian-owned port of Tartus. They argue that Turkey and NATO are supporting the uprising to ensure energy routes remain under their control via a pro-Western Kurdish government.

Keywords: [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [tartus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tartus.md), [natural gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-gas.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Green on Blue Violence, Self-Radicalization via Cell Phones (1:04:09–1:05:55)

Leon Panetta discusses "green on blue" attacks in Afghanistan, where Afghan forces turn on NATO troops. Panetta attributes some of these incidents to "self-radicalization" caused by individuals using cell phones to tune into extremist stations. The hosts mock the idea that cell phones are the primary driver of insider attacks.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [green on blue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-on-blue.md), [leon panetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leon-panetta.md), [cell phones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cell-phones.md), [radicalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radicalization.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Haqqani Network, ISI Support, Indian Media Reports (1:05:56–1:10:40)

Reports from Indian media link the Haqqani Network to the Pakistani ISI, alleging the group operates as a criminal enterprise involved in real estate and import-export. The hosts note that Hillary Clinton has a legal deadline to designate the Haqqani Network as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), which the U.S. has been hesitant to do.

Keywords: [haqqani network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haqqani-network.md), [isi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isi.md), [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Fighting Season, International Criminal Court, Nuclear Scientist Assassinations (1:10:40–1:13:00)

Leon Panetta uses the term "fighting season" to describe the increase in Afghan casualties, which the hosts compare to a television broadcast schedule. Meanwhile, families of assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists are seeking justice through the International Criminal Court, alleging involvement by the U.S., UK, and Israel.

Keywords: [fighting season](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fighting-season.md), [green on blue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-on-blue.md), [icc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icc.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), assassinations

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/17.md)

### 18. USS Porter Collision, Michael Oren, Iran Strike Threats (1:13:00–1:18:26)

The USS Porter, a Navy destroyer, collided with a Japanese oil tanker near the Strait of Hormuz. Following this, Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren appeared on MSNBC to argue that the window for diplomacy with Iran is closing in "weeks, not months." The hosts criticize Oren's "skin in the game" rhetoric and his claim that Israel is "right next door" to Iran.

Keywords: uss porter, [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), michael oren, [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Technical Difficulties, Michael Oren Biography, Arleigh Burke Destroyers (1:18:28–1:23:08)

The show experiences technical issues with Dvorak's audio, leading to a discussion about Skype drivers and M-Audio hardware. They correct a media report calling the USS Porter a "battleship," noting it is an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer. They also examine Michael Oren's background as an American-born Israeli historian.

Keywords: [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [m-audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m-audio.md), michael oren, uss porter, arleigh burke, battleship

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Egypt Military Shakeup, Mohamed Morsi, Gaza Tunnels (1:23:08–1:25:54)

Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi ousted top military leaders, including Field Marshal Tantawi, in what the hosts describe as a counter-coup. Morsi has since moved military forces into the Sinai Peninsula to close smuggling tunnels into the Gaza Strip, an action the hosts suggest is being done with Israeli and U.S. approval.

Keywords: [mohamed morsi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mohamed-morsi.md), field marshal tantawi, [egypt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/egypt.md), [gaza strip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza-strip.md), sinai peninsula, [tunnels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tunnels.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/20.md)

### 21. UN Human Rights Report on Syria, YouTube Evidence (1:25:55–1:28:19)

The United Nations Human Rights Council released a 102-page report on war crimes in Syria. The hosts point out that the commission was denied access to the country and based its findings almost entirely on interviews with people outside Syria and unverified YouTube videos.

Keywords: [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [human rights council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights-council.md), [evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evidence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Female Elites in Fashion, Hillary Clinton Reptile Theory (1:28:20–1:35:10)

Condoleezza Rice's NFL modeling debut and Chelsea Clinton's Vogue appearance are discussed. A Condé Nast Traveler article claiming Hillary Clinton "does not sweat" even in extreme heat leads the hosts to jokingly corroborate David Icke's theory that political elites are reptilian shape-shifters.

Keywords: [condoleezza rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/condoleezza-rice.md), [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), reptile, sweat glands, [david icke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-icke.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/22.md)

### 23. JFK Security Breach, Jet Ski Incident, M-Audio Drivers (1:35:11–1:38:35)

A jet skier whose vehicle stalled managed to swim to JFK Airport and walk across two runways undetected despite a $100 million security system. The segment transitions back to Dvorak's technical issues, identifying his M-Audio Fast Track USB interface as the cause of his "helium voice" on Skype.

Keywords: [jfk airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-airport.md), [port authority](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-authority.md), [security breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-breach.md), [jet ski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jet-ski.md), [m-audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m-audio.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Listener Donations, Karma Requests, No Conflict Soundbite (1:38:36–1:47:04)

The hosts read a series of donations and "karma" requests from listeners in San Diego, Saskatoon, and Australia. They attempt to find a specific soundbite of Hillary Clinton giggling to fulfill a donor's request but struggle with their soundboard organization. A mention of Al Sharpton's "no conflict" phrase is also made.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [saskatoon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saskatoon.md), [tijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tijuana.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Meetup Producers, Rain Sticks, Dutch Tourists in Moab (1:47:05–1:52:03)

Producers from the Twin Falls and Salt Lake City meetups are thanked. Adam describes receiving a hand-painted rain stick from a listener. He also notes that his current campground in Moab is filled with Dutch tourists who recognize him and Mickey, leading to potential coverage in the Dutch gossip press about their "broke" tour.

Keywords: rick smith, justin peck, [rain stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rain-stick.md), [moab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moab.md), dutch tourists, [hot pockets tour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-pockets-tour.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Knighting Ceremony, PayPal Subscription Issues, Credit Card Bills (1:52:04–1:56:27)

Jason Schrader is knighted following a $202 donation. The hosts address a listener's complaint about being unable to unsubscribe from a PayPal donation plan, explaining that most missed payments result in automatic cancellation. Dvorak's "pet peeve" is that people do not check their credit card statements closely enough.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), jason schrader, [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md), [credit cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-cards.md), [pet peeve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pet-peeve.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Amazon S3 Hosting Costs, Bandwidth Usage, Listener Links (1:56:28–1:59:57)

Adam Curry reveals that moving the show's files to an Amazon S3 bucket cost $1,730 for one month due to high bandwidth usage, exceeding one terabyte in a week. He expresses frustration that despite high download numbers, donations remain low. He also asks listeners to continue sending links even if they think he has already seen them.

Keywords: [amazon s3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon-s3.md), [bandwidth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bandwidth.md), terabyte, mevios, [podcast hosting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-hosting.md), [listener feedback](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-feedback.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Radio 1 Jingle Ban, Chris Moyles, No Agenda Jingles (1:59:58–2:04:03)

The BBC's Radio 1 has replaced Chris Moyles with Nick Grimshaw, who has reportedly banned "singing jingles." Adam Curry, a former radio professional, predicts the show will fail because sung jingles are essential for branding. They showcase several No Agenda jingles created by producer Jeff Smith as examples of effective audio branding.

Keywords: radio 1, [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), chris moyles, nick grimshaw, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [jeff smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-smith.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Mark Thompson to NYT, Reuters Hacking Excuse, Doug the Newsman (2:04:04–2:06:48)

Outgoing BBC Director-General Mark Thompson is moving to the New York Times, which the hosts find suspicious given his alleged ties to British intelligence. They also discuss Reuters claiming they were "hacked" to cover up editorial mistakes and mention the sale of legendary New York station WOR to Clear Channel.

Keywords: mark thompson, [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [clear channel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clear-channel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Mars Curiosity Rover, New Mexico Studio Theory, Moon Bases (2:06:48–2:10:16)

Adam Curry expresses skepticism about the Mars Curiosity Rover mission, noting that Google's image recognition API identified Mars photos as being taken in New Mexico. Dvorak counters with a theory that while the rover might be fake, there have been bases on the moon since 1953 used by "travelers" living among humans.

Keywords: mars curiosity, [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), google api, [new mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-mexico.md), [moon base](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-base.md), travelers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/30.md)

### 31. German Investment in Indian Slums, Infrastructure Development (2:10:16–2:11:40)

A news report details a $67 million investment by Germany into the Indian state of Odisha for urban infrastructure. The hosts find it bizarre that the investment specifically mentions "slum development," questioning why Germany is funding the creation or improvement of slums in India.

Keywords: [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [odisha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/odisha.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), slums, [investment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Meridian Mississippi School-to-Prison Pipeline, Juvenile Detention (2:11:40–2:13:21)

The Department of Justice is investigating the city of Meridian, Mississippi, for operating a "school-to-prison pipeline." Public school students are reportedly being sent to juvenile detention for minor infractions such as dress code violations, profanity, and flatulence. The hosts describe this as "slave training" for children.

Keywords: meridian, [mississippi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mississippi.md), [doj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doj.md), school-to-prison pipeline, juvenile detention, [civil rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Australia Plain Packaging, Cigarette Zombies, Quitting Smoking (2:13:22–2:16:27)

Australia has won a court battle to enforce plain packaging for cigarettes, featuring graphic medical photos. The hosts argue that the "zombie-like" imagery will actually make the packs collectible and more appealing to youth. Adam Curry announces that he and Mickey plan to quit smoking after the tour.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [big tobacco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-tobacco.md), plain packaging, [smoking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smoking.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), quitting

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Brian Brushwood, TWiT Criticism, Podcast Honesty (2:16:28–2:18:44)

Adam Curry critiques a recent episode of "This Week in Tech" (TWiT), specifically finding guest Brian Brushwood's high-energy performance annoying. He also mocks the TWiT crew for not knowing the location of the Gaza Strip, contrasting their lack of preparation with the "honesty" of the No Agenda show.

Keywords: [brian brushwood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-brushwood.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), [twit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twit.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [gaza strip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza-strip.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/34.md)

### 35. US Postal Service, MERS Mortgage Fraud, RICO Charges (2:18:50–2:23:47)

The hosts discuss the systematic dismantling of the U.S. Postal Service by Congress. They link this to the MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) scandal, suggesting the banks want the USPS to collapse to avoid RICO charges related to illegal foreclosures and the lack of physical paper trails for titles.

Keywords: [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), stamps.com, [mers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mers.md), [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), [rico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rico.md), [mortgage fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortgage-fraud.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Dvorak Family Foreclosure Battle, Bank of America, Washington State (2:23:48–2:29:55)

John C. Dvorak reveals that his family is currently under attack by Bank of America, which is attempting to foreclose on a mortgage that has never missed a payment in 18 years. He is working with Washington state banking regulators to fight the bank, which he claims is using the fraudulent MERS system to seize property.

Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), [foreclosure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreclosure.md), [mers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mers.md), legal battle

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Elon Musk, Tesla Bankruptcy Risks, Space Exploration (2:29:58–2:31:39)

Elon Musk admits that Tesla faces a difficult path to becoming cash-flow positive and could join the "graveyard" of failed car startups. The hosts criticize Musk for taking government money while simultaneously spending wealth on space exploration, calling his electric car business a "ploy" for rich investors.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md), [electric cars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-cars.md), [spacex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spacex.md), [government subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government-subsidies.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Eve Jackson, Pierre Cardin, Future of Fashion (2:31:39–2:34:12)

The hosts review a segment from France 24 featuring culture editor Eve Jackson interviewing 90-year-old fashion designer Pierre Cardin. Cardin makes confusing statements about women wanting to be men and the relationship between "tomorrow" and "yesterday," which the hosts find unintentionally hilarious.

Keywords: eve jackson, [france 24](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france-24.md), pierre cardin, [fashion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion.md), [paris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris.md), [culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/culture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Joe Biden, Standard Chartered Bank, Money Laundering (2:34:15–2:37:35)

Vice President Joe Biden's "put you back in chains" comment is criticized as scripted racial rhetoric. Meanwhile, Standard Chartered Bank agreed to a $340 million settlement for laundering $250 billion for the Iranian government. The hosts describe the fine as a "VIG" or a "shakedown" that allows the bank to remain profitable despite illegal activity.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), standard chartered, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md), [shakedown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shakedown.md), vig

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/39.md)

### 40. TSA Racial Profiling, Boston Logan Airport, Behavioral Detection (2:37:35–2:40:05)

The TSA is investigating reports of racial profiling at Boston's Logan International Airport after 30 agents filed internal complaints against their colleagues. The hosts note that the White House recently removed a popular anti-TSA petition from its website and criticize the media for downplaying the profiling reports.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), boston logan, [racial profiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racial-profiling.md), [behavioral detection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/behavioral-detection.md), [whitehouse.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whitehouse-gov.md), [petitions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petitions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Twitter Censorship, WikiLeaks Trending, Carlyle Group Getty Deal (2:40:06–2:42:19)

The hosts observe that hashtags related to Julian Assange and WikiLeaks were removed from Twitter's trending topics during the embassy standoff. They also discuss the Carlyle Group's $3.3 billion acquisition of Getty Images, speculating that the private equity firm is positioning itself for upcoming changes in copyright legislation.

Keywords: [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [carlyle group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carlyle-group.md), [getty images](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/getty-images.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Dave Mustaine, False Flag Claims, Aurora Mayor (2:42:21–2:43:46)

Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine made headlines by claiming from a stage in Singapore that President Obama staged the Aurora and Sikh temple shootings to pass gun control. The hosts also play a clip of the Mayor of Aurora describing the shooter as "normal," which they find suspicious.

Keywords: dave mustaine, megadeth, [aurora](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aurora.md), [false flag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/false-flag.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Google HealthMap, Vaccine Promotion, Show Outro (2:43:46–2:51:57)

The show concludes with an analysis of Google's "HealthMap" (formerly Flu Finder), which is now being used to promote adult vaccinations for HPV and Shingles. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Moab, Utah, looking forward to their next meetup in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), healthmap, [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [hpv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv.md), [moab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moab.md), [albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md), [hot pockets tour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-pockets-tour.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/435-hillary-doesn-t-sweat/chapter/43.md)

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