# Hip-Check China > Geopolitical maneuvering in Syria and Burma meets domestic unrest in Florida as the administrative state expands its reach through energy apps and national cell phone databases. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 399 - **Published:** 2012-04-12 - **Length:** 2h 43m - **Topics:** Syria intervention, [Zimmerman trial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zimmerman-trial.md), Burma oil, [Agenda 21](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agenda-21.md), [Tiny houses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiny-houses.md), [Carbon tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-tax.md), Grid 21 - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china ## About this episode Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman appeared on the Syrian border this week to demand a no-fly zone and the arming of the Free Syrian Army. This push for military intervention coincides with Turkey considering a buffer zone that could trigger NATO Article 5. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is leveraging the Burmese democracy movement to secure Western oil interests against Chinese influence. In Florida, George Zimmerman faces second-degree murder charges for the death of Trayvon Martin, a legal move that Attorney General Eric Holder addressed before the National Action Network. Domestically, the Department of Energy launched the Apps for Energy challenge under Secretary Steven Chu, while the FBI replaced Osama bin Laden on the Most Wanted list with former teacher Eric Justin Toth. In Europe, Spain banned cash transactions over 2,500 euros, and Greece opened closed hospitality centers for refugees as Goldman Sachs sponsored 60 Minutes reports on the debt crisis. This 399th episode features formal knighting ceremonies for Sir David Rudolf Bucker and Dame Cathy Siminich as the show approaches its milestone 400th broadcast. The hosts sample vegan snacks from Healthy Surprise, including a contentious review of kale chips, while tracking a mysterious self-updating Monsanto activity book discovered in a listener Dropbox folder. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/transcript.md. ### 1. Rain Catchment Systems and Agenda 21 Concerns (0:00–2:31) The hosts discuss the legality and utility of rain catchment systems in Austin, Texas, and Denver, Colorado. Plans are mentioned for a new "Camp MoFo" facility featuring solar power, windmills, and independent water purification. Concerns are raised regarding the implementation of Agenda 21 and its impact on private property and lifestyle. Keywords: rain catch systems, [camp mofo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/camp-mofo.md), [agenda 21](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agenda-21.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), water purification [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/1.md) ### 2. British Columbia Carbon Tax and CO2 Science (2:32–7:25) British Columbia has implemented a carbon tax of $50 per ton of CO2, adding approximately 12 cents per liter to gasoline prices. A debate ensues regarding the scientific claim that one liter of gasoline can produce 2.34 kilograms of CO2, noting that the weight increase comes from oxygen in the air during combustion. The tax is characterized as a "tax grab" despite claims of revenue neutrality. Keywords: [british columbia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-columbia.md), [carbon tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-tax.md), [co2 emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/co2-emissions.md), [gasoline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gasoline.md), [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/2.md) ### 3. White House Apps for Energy Challenge (7:27–10:40) The U.S. Department of Energy, under Secretary Steven Chu, launched the "Apps for Energy" challenge offering $100,000 for developers to create tools for the "Green Button" initiative. The program aims to help utility customers manage electricity usage data. The hosts criticize the initiative as a way to distract citizens from rising energy costs. Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [energy department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-department.md), secretary chu, apps for energy, green button [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Grid 21 and Association Management Strategies Lobbying (10:41–15:28) An investigation into "Grid 21" reveals it is managed by Association Management Strategies (AMS) at 1155 15th Street NW in Washington, D.C. The address is shared with the International Claim Association and other lobbying fronts. The hosts allege these organizations are shell entities designed to facilitate lobbying and condition the public for higher energy pricing. Keywords: grid 21, association management strategies, [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md), international claim association [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Tiny House Movement and Sustainable Living (15:28–20:38) The "Tiny House Movement" is highlighted through the story of Dee Williams, who lives in an 84-square-foot home in Olympia. The lifestyle features compost toilets and sustainable materials to reduce carbon footprints. The hosts mock the movement as a form of economic conditioning for a declining standard of living. Keywords: [tiny house movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiny-house-movement.md), dee williams, compost toilet, sustainable materials, [carbon footprint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-footprint.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Eric Holder and Trayvon Martin Investigation (20:39–26:48) Attorney General Eric Holder addressed the National Action Network regarding the Department of Justice investigation into the death of Trayvon Martin. The FBI and the Civil Rights Division are involved in reviewing the case for potential federal hate crime charges. The hosts suggest the administration is using the tragedy to stoke racial tension for political gain. Keywords: [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [trayvon martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trayvon-martin.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [national action network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-action-network.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/6.md) ### 7. George Zimmerman Second-Degree Murder Charges (26:49–32:29) George Zimmerman faces second-degree murder charges in Florida, a charge that requires proving a "depraved mind" without regard for human life. The hosts predict a televised trial will dominate news cycles through the summer of 2012 to distract from the Republican National Convention. They speculate that an acquittal is likely based on the specific legal definitions in Florida law. Keywords: [george zimmerman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-zimmerman.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), second-degree murder, [nancy grace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-grace.md), [trial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trial.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Tim Weiner and FBI History Book (32:30–36:05) Author Tim Weiner appeared on The Daily Show to discuss his book "Enemies: A History of the FBI." The hosts criticize Jon Stewart for an unprepared interview and discuss the book's revelations about "black bagging" and warrantless arrests in the early 20th century. There is speculation that Weiner may have been compromised by intelligence agencies during his research. Keywords: [tim weiner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-weiner.md), [jon stewart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jon-stewart.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [j. edgar hoover](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/j-edgar-hoover.md), enemies [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Executive Producer Credits and Show 400 Preparation (36:06–45:55) The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors including Dame Kathy Samunich, Sir Robin Dearden, and Sir Yule Vandermeer. Discussion covers the "value for value" model and the upcoming milestone of Episode 400. Several listeners are "de-douched" and granted knighthoods for their financial support of the program. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), show 400, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Healthy Surprise and Gitmo Shirts PR (45:55–49:57) The hosts thank Healthy Surprise for a box of vegan snacks and promote the launch of GetmoShirts.com, which features designs related to the "Drone Star State" and "China Pipelines." A listener report mentions spiking a Gallup poll by entering "No Agenda" as a primary news source and claiming to be a high-income Ron Paul supporter. Keywords: [healthy surprise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthy-surprise.md), gitmo shirts, [gallup poll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gallup-poll.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Goldman Sachs Sponsorship of 60 Minutes Greece Report (49:58–54:38) A 60 Minutes segment on the Greek debt crisis featured IMF head Christine Lagarde discussing fiscal policy and the "medicine" Greece must take. The hosts point out that the broadcast was sponsored by Goldman Sachs, the same firm that previously advised Greece on off-book transactions. They suggest the report was timed to influence market movements. Keywords: [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [eurozone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone.md), [christine lagarde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christine-lagarde.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/11.md) ### 12. California Lottery and Aladdin Bail Bonds Advertisements (54:39–56:12) The hosts describe a sequence of back-to-back commercials on local news featuring the California Lottery followed by Aladdin Bail Bonds. They interpret this as a commentary on the current American economy, where the only perceived options for the underemployed are winning the lottery or facing incarceration. Keywords: california lottery, aladdin bail bonds, [local news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/local-news.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), economic state [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Greek Protests and Closed Hospitality Centers (56:13–59:34) Protesters in Greece disrupted a news broadcast by pelting the host with yogurt and eggs. Meanwhile, Civil Protection Minister Michalis Chrisochoidis announced the opening of "closed hospitality centers" for refugees. The hosts characterize these facilities as concentration camps being established ahead of the May 6 general election. Keywords: [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md), closed hospitality centers, [refugees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refugees.md), [concentration camps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concentration-camps.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/13.md) ### 14. European Economic Crisis and Cash Restrictions (59:35–1:03:35) Sweden is facing a toilet paper shortage due to labor union strikes, while natural gas prices in the UK are set to rise by 27%. In Spain, the government has banned cash transactions over 2,500 euros to combat tax fraud. The hosts view these developments as signs of increasing state control and economic instability across the Eurozone. Keywords: [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), toilet paper shortage, [cash transactions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash-transactions.md), [tax fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-fraud.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/14.md) ### 15. George Clooney and Malawi Political Shifts (1:03:36–1:07:57) The Dutch VVD party invited George Clooney to speak about Sudan, which the hosts describe as a "distraction" tactic. In Malawi, following the death of the president, Joyce Banda—a former World Bank official—has taken power. The hosts note the suspicious timing of these leadership changes in resource-rich African nations where China has significant interests. Keywords: [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md), [malawi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malawi.md), joyce banda, [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Monsanto Kids Activity Book PDF Glitch (1:07:57–1:11:03) A host reports a technical anomaly where a Monsanto "Kids Activity Book" PDF file appears to be updating itself automatically within a Dropbox folder. Listeners are asked to investigate the file at a provided URL to determine if the document contains "phone home" capabilities or other embedded access controls. Keywords: [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [pdf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pdf.md), [dropbox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dropbox.md), growl, kids activity book [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/16.md) ### 17. FBI Most Wanted List and Eric Justin Toth (1:11:04–1:20:33) The FBI replaced Osama bin Laden on the Most Wanted list with Eric Justin Toth, a former teacher accused of possessing child pornography. The hosts argue this is a distraction from Senator Chuck Grassley's investigation into 5,200 Pentagon employees allegedly involved in similar crimes. They question why a 2008 case has suddenly become a top national priority. Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), eric justin toth, [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md), senator grassley [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Rick Santorum Suspends Presidential Campaign (1:20:34–1:25:02) Rick Santorum suspended his campaign for the GOP nomination, leaving Mitt Romney as the presumptive nominee. The hosts note that Ron Paul remains in the race as the last conservative alternative. They discuss the delegate math in unbound states and speculate on the pressure applied to Santorum to exit the race. Keywords: [rick santorum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-santorum.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), [gop primary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop-primary.md), [delegates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delegates.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/18.md) ### 19. God Bless America Movie Review (1:25:03–1:30:43) The hosts review Bobcat Goldthwait's film "God Bless America," a dark satire about a man who goes on a killing spree against reality TV stars and uncivilized citizens. They praise the film's monologues regarding the decline of American culture and encourage listeners to support the director by purchasing the film legally. Keywords: [bobcat goldthwait](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bobcat-goldthwait.md), [god bless america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/god-bless-america.md), [movie review](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/movie-review.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Madonna Career Decline and Hollywood Predictions (1:30:44–1:33:54) Based on the record-breaking second-week sales drop of the album "MDNA," the hosts predict Madonna may be the next target of the "Hollywood Whacker." They discuss the "Red Book" theory where celebrities are worth more dead than alive to their estates and record labels. Keywords: [madonna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madonna.md), mdna, hollywood whacker, [red book](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-book.md), album sales [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Pakistan Pipeline Politics and Bin Laden Widows (1:33:55–1:39:38) CNN's Nick Robertson reported on the widows of Osama bin Laden being held in Pakistan. The hosts argue this reporting is designed to frame Pakistan as a "bad actor" to the American public. This narrative coincides with geopolitical tension over the TAPI pipeline and China's increasing influence in the region. Keywords: [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [tapi pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tapi-pipeline.md), [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [nick robertson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-robertson.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Hillary Clinton and Burma Democracy Movement (1:39:39–1:42:27) Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promoted the film "The Lady" about Aung San Suu Kyi to signal U.S. support for the democracy movement in Burma. The hosts interpret this as "greasing the wheels" for Western oil companies like Shell and BP to enter the country and displace Chinese interests. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [burma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burma.md), [myanmar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/myanmar.md), [aung san suu kyi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aung-san-suu-kyi.md), the lady [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/22.md) ### 23. IRS Commissioner on Documented Undocumented Aliens (1:42:29–1:45:04) During a National Press Club appearance, the IRS Commissioner was questioned about "documented undocumented aliens" paying taxes. The hosts mock the terminology and the Commissioner's evasive answers regarding identity theft and tax collection from illegal immigrants. Keywords: [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), undocumented aliens, [identity theft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-theft.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Listener Donations and Alan Levene for Congress (1:45:06–1:57:47) The hosts process various listener donations, including a "Huntsman douchebag" request and stories from a submarine supply officer. They also mention Alan Levene's congressional campaign and thank the "slaves" for supporting the show's 399th episode through the value-for-value model. Keywords: alan levene, [huntsman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huntsman.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), show 399 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Knighting Ceremony and Healthy Surprise Review (1:57:48–2:03:11) The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Jule van de Meer, Sir David Rudolf Bucker, and Dame Cathy Siminich. They also review a gift box from Healthy Surprise, discussing the merits of various vegan snacks like wasabi seaweed and their shared dislike for kale chips. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [healthy surprise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthy-surprise.md), vegan snacks, [kale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kale.md), [gluten-free](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gluten-free.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Syria Ceasefire and Turkey Buffer Zone (2:03:11–2:07:55) A ceasefire is scheduled for Syria, but violence has reportedly spilled over the border into Turkey. Turkey is considering establishing a "buffer zone" on the Syrian side of the border. The hosts explain that this could trigger NATO's Article 5, leading to a full-scale military intervention. Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), [buffer zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buffer-zone.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/26.md) ### 27. McCain and Lieberman Call for Arming Syrian Rebels (2:07:56–2:18:33) Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman appeared on CNN from the Syrian border to advocate for arming the Free Syrian Army and establishing a no-fly zone. They argue that the U.S. has a moral responsibility to stop the "slaughter" and prevent Iran from gaining a strategic victory. The hosts criticize the senators as "warmongers" following a familiar script. Keywords: [john mccain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-mccain.md), [joe lieberman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-lieberman.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [no-fly zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-fly-zone.md), [free syrian army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-syrian-army.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/27.md) ### 28. EU-Turkey Labor Agreement and Liberia Gay Rights (2:18:34–2:23:31) The European Commission is considering a proposal to grant Turkish citizens residency and labor rights within the EU. In Liberia, reports of a "Movement Against Gays" are surfacing. The hosts suggest the gay rights narrative in Liberia is being used as a pretext for Western intervention to counter a $2.6 billion Chinese mining deal. Keywords: [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [liberia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberia.md), [gay rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gay-rights.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [european commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-commission.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Guatemala Drug Legalization Proposal and Pat Buchanan (2:23:32–2:28:11) The President of Guatemala proposed legalizing drugs and seeking compensation from the U.S. for seized narcotics. On the McLaughlin Group, Pat Buchanan discussed the failure of the War on Drugs, contrasting Milton Friedman's legalization stance with Mao Zedong's execution policy. The hosts suggest a shift in conservative rhetoric regarding drug policy is underway. Keywords: [guatemala](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guatemala.md), [drug legalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-legalization.md), [pat buchanan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pat-buchanan.md), [milton friedman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milton-friedman.md), [war on drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-on-drugs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/29.md) ### 30. UC Davis Pepper Spray Report and USGS Earthquake Warnings (2:28:11–2:32:15) A task force report slammed the UC Davis Police Department for the "disproportionate" pepper-spraying of students. Separately, the USGS issued a warning of an 84% chance of a major earthquake in Seattle within 50 years. The hosts speculate that these geological warnings are being used to influence future building codes and "sustainable" development agendas. Keywords: [uc davis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uc-davis.md), [pepper spray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pepper-spray.md), [usgs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usgs.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [earthquake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/399-hip-check-china/chapter/30.md) ### 31. National Cell Phone Database and User Managed Access (2:32:15–2:43:49) The government and major carriers are creating a national database of cell phones, ostensibly to track stolen devices. The hosts argue this is actually a setup for "User Managed Access" (UMA), a protocol allowing carriers to act as middlemen for personal data. They warn that this system will allow phone companies to further monetize and control user information. 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