# No Bagles for You! > A crackdown on homeless feeding programs in New York City meets the high-stakes world of international banking scandals and World Bank leadership shifts. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 394 - **Published:** 2012-03-25 - **Length:** 2h 21m - **Topics:** Bagel Ban, [MF Global](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mf-global.md), [World Bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [STOCK Act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-act.md), Mali Coup, [Trayvon Martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trayvon-martin.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you ## About this episode Hillary Clinton and the State Department face scrutiny over the definition of Iranian intransigence as global tensions rise. The administration's diplomatic maneuvering coincides with a domestic crackdown on the indigent, exemplified by Mayor Michael Bloomberg's New York City officials blocking a synagogue from donating bagels and carrot stew to local shelters. These restrictive nutrition mandates for the homeless mirror a growing trend of government micromanagement over food safety and public service. In London, the shooting of Russian banker German Gorbuntsov near Canary Wharf highlights a violent rift among international financiers, while new evidence in the MF Global collapse links John Corzine to the direct transfer of $200 million in customer funds to JP Morgan. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama nominated Dr. Jim Yong Kim to lead the World Bank, a move signaling a pivot toward global health initiatives funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. This shift occurs as the World Health Organization warns of a man-made tuberculosis pandemic and the Senate deconstructs the STOCK Act, which contains a massive loophole allowing lobbyists to continue trading on political intelligence. Adam Curry performs a series of dry-run auditions for a Hyundai commercial while John C. Dvorak provides direction ranging from surfer dude to Pee-wee Herman. The duo also explores the logistics of building a library out of recycled shipping containers and mocks the longevity of Dick Cheney following his heart transplant. Philip Flick is officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable as the show analyzes the toxicology report of Whitney Houston. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/transcript.md. ### 1. Intransigence Definition, Hillary Clinton, and The Three Stooges (0:00–2:37) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They debate the definition of the word "intransigence" after playing a clip of Hillary Clinton using the term regarding Iran. The hosts further discuss whether a specific sound effect originates from The Three Stooges, The Lone Ranger, or a Vaughn Monroe song. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), intransigence, [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), the three stooges, vaughn monroe, [lone ranger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-ranger.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Hunger Games, Homeless Feeding Bans, and Mayor Bloomberg (2:37–7:42) The hosts connect the popularity of The Hunger Games movie to real-world ordinances in cities like New York, Philadelphia, and Orlando that restrict feeding the homeless. In New York City, Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration reportedly blocked a synagogue from donating bagels and carrot stew to shelters due to concerns over salt, fat, and fiber content. The discussion highlights the transition from public service to government micromanagement of nutrition for the indigent. Keywords: the hunger games, [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [homeless shelters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeless-shelters.md), [food safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-safety.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [philadelphia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philadelphia.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Farmers Market Regulations, Honey Sampling, and Raw Milk (7:42–9:59) A personal anecdote describes restrictive food safety regulations at a local farmers market where vendors are prohibited from offering honey samples because it is classified as produce. The segment also details a warning from a local farmer about federal agents monitoring the market to catch people recommending raw milk. Keywords: [farmers market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farmers-market.md), [honey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honey.md), [food safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-safety.md), [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [federal agents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-agents.md), produce regulations [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Human Resource Valuation, Greek Independence Day, and IMF (9:59–12:23) The hosts compare the statistical "value" of human beings across different regions, noting a report that values a UK citizen at roughly $700,000 compared to $50,000 paid to Afghan villagers. President Barack Obama's proclamation of March 25th as Greek Independence Day is criticized as hubris given the ongoing economic austerity measures imposed on Greece by the IMF. Keywords: [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), greek independence day, [international monetary fund](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-monetary-fund.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Executive Producer Donations, Photophobia, and The Formula (12:24–20:05) The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors and executive producers, including Boris Sloth Marinoff and August Hockinson. One donor shares a story of recovering from photophobia, a severe light sensitivity, after seeking treatment from a specialist. The segment concludes with a reminder of the "Value for Value" formula and a shout-out to a newborn future knight. Keywords: boris sloth marinoff, photophobia, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), [montreal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montreal.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Trayvon Martin Shooting, George Zimmerman, and Media Politicization (20:06–26:54) The discussion focuses on the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman in Sanford, Florida, and the subsequent media firestorm. The hosts examine the "Stand Your Ground" law, police reports indicating Zimmerman was injured, and witness testimony regarding who was screaming for help. They criticize the politicization of the event by figures like Al Sharpton and President Obama, suggesting it is being used to stoke racial tension for the upcoming election. Keywords: [trayvon martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trayvon-martin.md), [george zimmerman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-zimmerman.md), sanford, [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), stand your ground law [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Black-on-Black Crime, C-SPAN Call-in, and The Talk (26:54–30:27) A C-SPAN clip features a caller from Houston discussing a gruesome local murder that received no national attention, contrasting it with the Trayvon Martin case to highlight media bias. The hosts discuss "The Talk" that parents have with their children regarding safety and race, arguing that the current political climate is making these conversations more dangerous and divisive. Keywords: [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [racial politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racial-politics.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [media coverage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-coverage.md), [crime statistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crime-statistics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Tuberculosis Pandemic, Global Vaccine Plan, and Man-Made Diseases (30:27–34:47) The hosts investigate a reported global plan by the World Health Organization to address a predicted tuberculosis pandemic. They highlight claims that drug-resistant TB is a "man-made" problem and discuss historical instances of vaccine contamination, such as the Lubeck accident and a more recent incident involving Baxter and bird flu. Keywords: [tuberculosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tuberculosis.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [south africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-africa.md), [baxter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baxter.md), [drug resistance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-resistance.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Jim Yong Kim, World Bank Nomination, and Charlie Rose (34:48–39:15) President Obama's nomination of Dr. Jim Yong Kim to lead the World Bank is analyzed as a move to prioritize global health initiatives over traditional banking. A Charlie Rose interview is used to show Kim's ties to George Soros and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation regarding tuberculosis treatment. The hosts also play audio of Kim rapping at a Dartmouth graduation to question his suitability for the role. Keywords: jim yong kim, [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), dartmouth college, [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/9.md) ### 10. TB Quarantines, Hillary Clinton, and Dick Cheney's Health (39:15–41:48) The conversation shifts to the history of tuberculosis quarantines and the role of Hillary Clinton in the new World Bank leadership. The hosts also mock the longevity and health of former Vice President Dick Cheney following his heart transplant, referring to him as a "zombie." Keywords: [tuberculosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tuberculosis.md), consumption, [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [dick cheney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-cheney.md), [pharmaceuticals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceuticals.md), [heart transplant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-transplant.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Russian Banker Shooting, German Gorbuntsov, and Canary Wharf (41:49–43:11) Russian banker German Gorbuntsov was shot multiple times outside his East London flat near Canary Wharf. Gorbuntsov, who is on a wanted list in Moldova for embezzlement, was a witness in a previous 2009 shooting of another financier. The hosts characterize this as "real banksters" killing each other. Keywords: german gorbuntsov, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [embezzlement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/embezzlement.md), alexander antonov, banksters [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/11.md) ### 12. MF Global Scandal, John Corzine, and JP Morgan (43:11–46:40) New evidence in the MF Global collapse suggests John Corzine directly instructed the transfer of $200 million in customer funds to cover an overdraft at JP Morgan in London. The hosts discuss the illegality of touching segregated customer accounts and criticize JP Morgan's offer to buy out claims at a 10% discount, effectively profiting from the theft. Keywords: [john corzine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-corzine.md), [mf global](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mf-global.md), [jp morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jp-morgan.md), edith o'brien, customer funds, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/12.md) ### 13. STOCK Act, Political Intelligence, and Insider Trading (46:41–51:01) The hosts deconstruct the STOCK Act (Senate Bill 2038), revealing a loophole regarding "political intelligence." While the act purports to stop insider trading by Congress, it allows lobbyists to continue selling information derived from direct communications with lawmakers to investors. The Department of Homeland Security is tasked with reporting on these activities, which the hosts argue keeps the scam legal. Keywords: [stock act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-act.md), [insider trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insider-trading.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [lobbyists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbyists.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [financial markets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-markets.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Obama's "Punching Above Their Weight" Rhetoric, Foreign Allies (51:03–54:51) A montage of President Obama's speeches reveals a repetitive use of the phrase "punching above their weight" to describe various small nations, including Norway, Denmark, and the Philippines. The hosts mock the President's tendency to call every visiting world leader a representative of "our strongest ally," noting the lack of sincerity in the diplomatic script. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Beaumont Texas, Pink Cadillacs, and Mia Farrow (54:51–57:25) The hosts share anecdotes about traveling through Beaumont, Texas, involving pink Cadillacs and longhorn hood ornaments. The conversation pivots to Mia Farrow's activism in Africa and her involvement with UNICEF, contrasting her work with that of George Clooney. Keywords: beaumont, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), pink cadillac, [mia farrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mia-farrow.md), [darfur](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darfur.md), [unicef](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unicef.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Bernie Sanders C-SPAN Rant, 2000 Economy (57:25–1:01:23) The hosts play a C-SPAN clip from February 2000 featuring Bernie Sanders discussing the decline of real wages and the struggle of the average worker. They note that Sanders' rhetoric regarding the "1%" has remained virtually unchanged for over a decade, despite the economic shifts following the dot-com crash. Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [vermont](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vermont.md), real wages, [income inequality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/income-inequality.md), dot com bubble [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/16.md) ### 17. George Clooney, John Prendergast, and Sudan Diplomacy (1:01:26–1:06:17) George Clooney appears on Charlie Rose to discuss Sudan and South Sudan, defining "diplomacy" as the freezing of bank accounts and tracking terrorist money in Malaysia. The hosts critique Clooney's performance, suggesting he is being coached by activist John Prendergast and using "fake statistics" about the death toll to appear informed. Keywords: [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md), [john prendergast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-prendergast.md), [sudan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sudan.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), bank sanctions [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Iran Sanctions, 12 Exempt Countries, and State Department Briefing (1:06:18–1:11:24) State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland faces questions regarding the 12 countries granted exemptions from Iranian oil sanctions under the NDAA. The hosts highlight the tension in the briefing room as journalists press for the names of these countries, which include major players like India and China. The discussion touches on the "one China" policy regarding Taiwan's inclusion on the list. Keywords: [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [petroleum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petroleum.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [taiwan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taiwan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/18.md) ### 19. South Korea Military Drills, Sri Lanka, and Saudi Oil (1:11:24–1:15:05) President Obama's visit to South Korea coincides with massive naval drills aimed at China. The hosts link US interest in Sri Lanka and Indonesia to competing with Chinese oil exploration and infrastructure projects. They argue that squeezing Iran has forced reliance on Saudi Arabia, which is driving up global oil prices to $5 per gallon. Keywords: [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [sri lanka](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sri-lanka.md), [indonesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indonesia.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Mali Coup, Tuareg Rebellion, and Chinese Gold Mining (1:15:06–1:21:14) A military coup in Mali is linked to the Tuareg rebellion, which was bolstered by fighters returning from the conflict in Libya. AFRICOM officials admitted the coup leader was US-trained. The hosts suggest the instability is part of a broader strategy to disrupt Chinese gold mining and infrastructure investments in the region, while US companies propose new LNG pipelines to China from Alaska. Keywords: [mali](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mali.md), [africom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africom.md), tuareg, [gaddafi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaddafi.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [gold mining](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-mining.md), [pipelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipelines.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/20.md) ### 21. TSA Paper Ban, Boarding Passes, and Radiation Concerns (1:21:15–1:24:18) A host recounts a frustrating experience at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport where a TSA agent demanded all paper, including a printed boarding pass, be removed from pockets before entering a scanner. The segment also mentions a listener's "poetic" encounter with a TSA agent who attempted to downplay the radiation risks of the scanning equipment. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [boarding pass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boarding-pass.md), [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Syria Peace Proposal, Kofi Annan, and Victoria Nuland (1:24:19–1:30:07) The UN's six-point peace proposal for Syria, led by Kofi Annan, is scrutinized for failing to demand that Bashar al-Assad step down. Victoria Nuland's briefings suggest a shift in US policy as the conflict fades from the headlines. The hosts conclude that a deal has likely been struck with Russia to maintain their interests in the region, effectively ending the "saber-rattling." Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [kofi annan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kofi-annan.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [victoria nuland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-nuland.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Russia WTO Accession, PNTR, and Human Rights (1:30:08–1:35:09) Congress debates granting Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) to Russia as it joins the WTO. Senator Max Baucus argues the deal is a "one-way street" benefiting US exporters, while Senator Jon Kyl opposes it on human rights grounds and Russia's failure to protect intellectual property. The hosts mock the use of human rights as a political tool given US incarceration rates. Keywords: [world trade organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-organization.md), pntr, [max baucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-baucus.md), jon kyl, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), jackson-vanik amendment [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Whitney Houston Toxicology Report, Cocaine, and Hollywood Whackers (1:35:10–1:39:43) The final toxicology report for Whitney Houston attributes her death to drowning, heart disease, and cocaine use. The hosts question the official narrative, noting that no cocaine was found in her hotel room and suggesting that the report was tailored to protect the pharmaceutical industry from blame regarding Xanax. They also mention the massive $200 million Sony deal for Michael Jackson's estate. Keywords: [whitney houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whitney-houston.md), [toxicology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toxicology.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [drowning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drowning.md), bobby christina, [sanjay gupta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanjay-gupta.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Listener Donations, 6969 Train, and Ron Paul Petitions (1:39:46–1:49:24) The hosts read a series of donations, many following the "69.69" trend started by listener Carrie Shearn. Topics include a TechPhoenix conference announcement, a Ron Paul speaking petition at UC Davis, and various requests for "relocation karma" and "de-douching." Keywords: [6969](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/6969.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [uc davis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uc-davis.md), bettendorf, betty, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Adam Curry's Hyundai Commercial Audition (1:49:25–1:55:22) Adam Curry performs several takes for a Hyundai commercial audition, attempting to meet the "trustworthy everyman" and "urgent" specifications. John Dvorak provides direction, encouraging Curry to use his "surfer dude" and "Pee-wee Herman" voices to make the dry copy more engaging. Keywords: [hyundai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hyundai.md), [voiceover](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voiceover.md), [audition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audition.md), sonata hybrid, elantra, [surfer dude](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surfer-dude.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Knighting of Sir Philip Flick, Birthday Shout-outs (1:55:23–1:58:38) Philip Flick is officially knighted as a "Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable" for his cumulative donations reaching $1,000. The hosts also provide birthday shout-outs for several listeners and their family members, including a 30th birthday mention for a future knight named Matt. Keywords: philip flick, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [mckinney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mckinney.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Shipping Container Library, Sustainable Architecture, and The GIMP (1:58:40–2:06:50) Inspired by an architect listener, the hosts discuss building the "Curry-Dvorak Library" using recycled shipping containers. They marvel at online images of luxury container homes and discuss the low cost of surplus containers. The segment briefly touches on Adam Curry's switch to Ubuntu Linux and his refusal to use "The GIMP" as a Photoshop alternative. Keywords: [shipping containers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shipping-containers.md), [architecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/architecture.md), curry-dvorak library, sustainable housing, [ubuntu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ubuntu.md), the gimp [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Toulouse Shooting Conspiracy, Mohamed Merah, and Six Strikes Law (2:06:51–2:09:31) The hosts discuss the shooting in Toulouse, France, suggesting that suspect Mohamed Merah may have been a patsy and that his death was timed for President Sarkozy's political benefit. They also mention a "six strikes" copyright enforcement policy allegedly being implemented by US ISPs in coordination with the government. 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Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [robert bales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-bales.md), [hamid karzai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamid-karzai.md), [civilian casualties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civilian-casualties.md), [news media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/news-media.md), [skepticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skepticism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/394-no-bagles-for-you/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Parental Consent Act, Mental Health Screening, and Big Pharma (2:12:56–2:16:03) The hosts discuss Ron Paul's Parental Consent Act, which aims to prevent government funding for mandatory mental health screening of children. They argue that the pharmaceutical industry is lobbying for these programs to create a "guaranteed" market for psychiatric drugs by labeling all children as mentally ill. 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