# Phobos Grunts

> A failed Russian satellite falls toward the Middle East while the American media apparatus turns its sights on Ron Paul and the Iowa caucuses.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 369
- **Published:** 2011-12-29
- **Length:** 2h 43m
- **Topics:** Phobos-Grunt, [Ron Paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [Keystone XL](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keystone-xl.md), [Carlyle Group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carlyle-group.md), Nike Riots, [Fannie Mae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fannie-mae.md), [Cyber Warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-warfare.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts

## About this episode

The Russian Phobos-Grunt satellite is hurtling toward a crash landing in Afghanistan, sparking intense speculation about US Strategic Command's ability to predict the re-entry with suspicious precision. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze whether the failed spacecraft serves as a cover for a targeted EMP strike or a covert operation near the Iranian border. The situation coincides with Hugo Chavez claiming the United States has developed a secret machine to induce cancer in Latin American leaders following a string of regional diagnoses.

Media narratives are shifting as the Iowa caucuses approach, with the Wall Street Journal and Fox News launching coordinated attacks against Ron Paul by labeling his supporters as neo-Nazis. While Al Sharpton accuses Paul of anti-Semitism on Morning Joe, the Republican establishment is simultaneously elevating Rick Santorum to fragment the vote. Meanwhile, House Resolution 3765 has quietly implemented a permanent fee increase on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgages, effectively creating a hidden tax on homeowners to fund a temporary payroll tax holiday. In the private sector, the New York Times is under fire for granting CEO Janet Robinson a $15 million exit package while freezing employee pensions, and Nike is accused of orchestrating retail riots for the Air Jordan Concord 11 release to manufacture artificial demand.

This year-end wrap-up features a live carrot crunch test from Nash's Produce in Port Angeles and a review of the CIA's gift shop merchandise, which is ironically manufactured in China. The episode concludes with an interview featuring Sir Jordan of Invercargill, who provides a dispatch on New Zealand's vegan agenda and local HAARP research facilities. Adam Curry also reviews a listener-submitted short film shot entirely on an iPhone 4S that satirizes life under government surveillance.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 369 Introduction and Christmas Cliptacular Recap (0:00–1:40)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 369 from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley on December 29, 2011. They reflect on the previous "Christmas Cliptacular" episode, noting listener feedback regarding its length and density. The hosts establish the show's numbering convention, designating the clip show as episode 368.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), episode 369, christmas cliptacular, [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Canadian Bilingualism and Quebec Cultural Tensions (1:41–3:20)

A discussion regarding Canadian listeners in Saskatoon leads to a critique of national bilingualism requirements intended to accommodate Quebec. An anecdote is shared about a Québécois individual experiencing cultural rejection while visiting France. The hosts transition into greeting their live chat room audience, referred to as "human resources."

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [saskatoon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saskatoon.md), [quebec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quebec.md), bilingualism, [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/2.md)

### 3. CIA Gift Shop Piggy Bank and Made in China Merchandise (3:21–5:58)

One of the hosts describes receiving a piggy bank featuring the CIA logo, purchased from the agency's physical gift shop in Virginia. They examine the CIA gift store website, noting the irony of intelligence agency merchandise being manufactured in China. The segment highlights various items available for purchase, including spy plane pens and commemorative coins.

Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [gift shop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gift-shop.md), piggy bank, [made in china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/made-in-china.md), [virginia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virginia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/3.md)

### 4. No Agenda Merchandise and the "Don't Panic" Federal Reserve Shirt (5:58–7:46)

The hosts review recent No Agenda merchandise, including a green Federal Reserve shirt with the slogan "Don't Worry, Don't Panic, We'll Print More." Other items mentioned include "Your Government Protecting and Serving the Shit Out of You" shirts and branded mugs. An anecdote is shared about a house guest stealing a mug, which the hosts interpret as a sign of product quality.

Keywords: [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md), [merchandise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merchandise.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), mugs, [apparel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apparel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/4.md)

### 5. House Resolution 3765 and Payroll Tax Holiday Analysis (7:47–11:54)

Adam Curry analyzes House Resolution 3765, the two-month extension of the payroll tax holiday through February 29, 2012. He argues the bill effectively creates a hidden tax increase for those earning over $110,000 by capping the 2% Social Security tax break at the first $18,350 of income. The discussion disputes media claims regarding the number of Americans who will actually benefit from the legislation.

Keywords: house resolution 3765, payroll tax holiday, social security tax, income limits, [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Fee Increases (11:54–14:01)

The payroll tax legislation is revealed to include a permanent fee increase of 20 basis points on mortgages guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The hosts characterize this as a hidden tax on homeowners that lacks a sunset provision. They compare these financial maneuvers to the excessive fees found in car rental agreements.

Keywords: [fannie mae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fannie-mae.md), [freddie mac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freddie-mac.md), mortgage fees, hidden taxes, basis points

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Keystone XL Pipeline Presidential Decision Deadline (14:02–14:56)

Provisions within the tax bill force President Barack Obama to make a public decision regarding the Keystone XL pipeline permit within 60 days of enactment. The legislation references Executive Order 13337 and mandates action through the Secretary of State. The hosts note that this specific requirement received minimal coverage on mainstream news outlets like CNN.

Keywords: [keystone xl pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keystone-xl-pipeline.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), executive order 13337, [secretary of state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-of-state.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Wall Street Journal Critique of Ron Paul and Neo-Nazi Labels (14:58–20:23)

The hosts critique a Wall Street Journal editorial segment featuring Dorothy Rabinowitz, who labeled Ron Paul's supporters as "neo-Nazis" and "9/11 truthers." Rabinowitz argued that Paul is not a true libertarian and expressed concern over the "raging quality" of his disenfranchised followers. The hosts dismiss her commentary as elitist propaganda aimed at marginalizing a popular political movement.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), dorothy rabinowitz, [neo-nazis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neo-nazis.md), [9/11 truthers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-truthers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Fox News and the Ron Paul Newsletter Controversy (20:25–23:12)

Media coverage of decades-old Ron Paul newsletters is analyzed, specifically focusing on commentary from Fox News. Pundits like Kirsten Powers are criticized for labeling the newsletters "heinous" and "racist" without having read them personally. The hosts argue the media is recycling these claims to damage Paul's momentum in the Iowa caucuses.

Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [newsletters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletters.md), [kirsten powers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kirsten-powers.md), racism claims

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Fox News Visual Tactics and Government Spending Addiction (23:12–24:51)

A brief tangent explores the visual staging on the Fox News program "The Five," suggesting the placement of the spinning logo near female commentators' legs is a psychological tactic. The discussion shifts to the $15.1 trillion national debt, with the hosts arguing that neither major party has the courage to address the government's addiction to overspending.

Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), visual propaganda, [national debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-debt.md), [government spending](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government-spending.md), [buzzkill jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/buzzkill-jr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Al Sharpton and Anti-Semitism Allegations Against Ron Paul (24:52–26:38)

The hosts discuss an appearance by Al Sharpton on "Morning Joe" where Ron Paul was accused of harboring a "strain of anti-Semitism." They argue these allegations stem solely from Paul's desire to cut all foreign aid, including the $235 billion reportedly sent to Israel. The hosts defend Paul, stating that his non-interventionist stance is being intentionally mischaracterized as bigotry.

Keywords: [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [anti-semitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anti-semitism.md), israel aid

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Eric Dondero and the Role of Political Shills (26:39–28:36)

The hosts identify Eric Dondero, a former Ron Paul staffer appearing on CNN, as a professional political shill. They highlight an interview where Dondero avoids admitting he is currently working for competing GOP campaigns while attacking Paul. The segment serves as an example of how mainstream media uses "insider" sources to push specific narratives.

Keywords: eric dondero, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), political shills, [gop primary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop-primary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/12.md)

### 13. African American Support for Ron Paul and Drug War Reform (28:36–31:05)

The discussion focuses on growing support for Ron Paul within the Black community due to his stance on ending the War on Drugs. The hosts cite statistics regarding the disproportionate incarceration of African Americans and compare the modern prison system to a form of state-sanctioned slavery. They argue that Paul's message resonates more than President Obama's lack of action on criminal justice reform.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [war on drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-on-drugs.md), [african americans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/african-americans.md), [prison industrial complex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison-industrial-complex.md), [slavery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slavery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/13.md)

### 14. New York Times Financial Troubles and Executive Bonuses (31:05–33:23)

The New York Times faces internal backlash after firing CEO Janet Robinson with a $15 million exit package while simultaneously freezing employee pensions. The hosts discuss a protest letter signed by staff members regarding the disparity in executive compensation. They also mention a marketing error where the paper sent out millions of cancellation notices and initially lied about being hacked.

Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), janet robinson, pension freeze, [executive compensation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-compensation.md), [layoffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layoffs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/14.md)

### 15. No Agenda Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony (33:23–41:38)

The hosts read a long list of donations from "Executive Producers" and "Associate Executive Producers." Highlights include a $1,100 donation from a listener in Virginia to establish the "Order of the Dish" and various "karma" requests for new jobs and family health. The segment reinforces the "value-for-value" model of the show, thanking donors from the US, Australia, Germany, and the UK.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), order of the dish, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/15.md)

### 16. No Agenda Domain Names and Human Rights Observatory (41:39–45:20)

The hosts showcase several new domain names registered by listeners to support the show's themes, including "TheDroneStarState.com" and "EUFoundingFathers.com." A significant portion of the segment is dedicated to "ObservatoryForHumanRights.com," a site built by producer Brad Doherty that parodies official human rights organizations while directing traffic to No Agenda.

Keywords: [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md), eufoundingfathers.com, observatoryforhumanrights.com, [brad doherty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brad-doherty.md), [activism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/activism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/16.md)

### 17. No Agenda Short Film and iPhone Cinematography (45:21–47:30)

Adam Curry describes a rough cut of a short film submitted by Australian producers that satirizes the life of a podcaster under government surveillance. The film features No Agenda "slave" t-shirts and references to "win-lose-or-drone." Curry notes the high production quality despite the film being shot entirely on an iPhone 4S.

Keywords: short film, iphone 4s, [podcaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcaster.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/17.md)

### 18. George Soros and the Center for Responsive Politics (47:33–51:08)

The hosts debunk a "powerful" New York Times and ABC News report claiming Congress got richer during the recession. They trace the data back to the Center for Responsive Politics (OpenSecrets.org), which is funded by George Soros's Open Society Institute. The hosts argue the report is a propaganda tool designed to fuel "Occupy Wall Street" style class resentment.

Keywords: [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), center for responsive politics, [open secrets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-secrets.md), [wealth gap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth-gap.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Sunlight Foundation and Transparency Activism (51:09–53:08)

The discussion expands to the Sunlight Foundation, noting its funding from tech figures like Craig Newmark and Jimmy Wales. The hosts express skepticism toward "transparency" organizations, suggesting they are partisan entities that serve specific political agendas while appearing to be neutral watchdogs.

Keywords: sunlight foundation, [craig newmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/craig-newmark.md), [jimmy wales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-wales.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md), [political funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/19.md)

### 20. General David Petraeus Biography and CIA-Obama Tensions (53:11–59:28)

The hosts discuss the upcoming biography of General David Petraeus, "All In," written by Paula Broadwell and Vernon Loeb. They interpret leaked excerpts as an opening salvo in a renewed conflict between the CIA and the Obama administration. The segment also touches on the Pentagon's influence over retired military analysts appearing on news networks like CNN.

Keywords: [david petraeus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-petraeus.md), [paula broadwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paula-broadwell.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), all in

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Nike Air Jordan Concord 11 Release Riots (59:29–1:01:51)

The release of the Nike Air Jordan Concord 11 shoes resulted in reports of pushing, shoving, and pepper-spraying at malls across the United States. The hosts suggest these "riots" may have been orchestrated or exaggerated as a PR move by Nike to create artificial demand and hype for the product.

Keywords: [nike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nike.md), air jordan, concord 11, retail riots, [pr stunt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pr-stunt.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Syrian Unrest and Russian Diplomatic Protection (1:01:54–1:05:13)

Reports from Russian media suggest a deal is in place to offer Bashar al-Assad safe haven in Russia, potentially in collaboration with the United States. The hosts analyze the presence of Arab League observers and the strategic importance of Russian naval ports in Syria. They speculate that the Syrian situation is being managed according to a geopolitical playbook involving Exxon and Vladimir Putin.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [arab league](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arab-league.md), [geopolitics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geopolitics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Rick Santorum's Iowa Caucus Surge (1:05:14–1:07:23)

The hosts mock CNN's coverage of Rick Santorum "surging" to third place in the Iowa caucus polls. They characterize the media's sudden focus on Santorum as a manufactured narrative to keep the Republican primary race exciting. The segment critiques the cozy relationship between candidates and news anchors like Wolf Blitzer.

Keywords: [rick santorum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-santorum.md), [iowa caucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa-caucus.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [wolf blitzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wolf-blitzer.md), [gop primary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop-primary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/23.md)

### 24. GOP Primary Rigging and Delegate Allocation Rules (1:07:24–1:10:17)

A deep dive into Republican primary rules reveals that delegates are allocated on a proportional basis for contests held before April 1st. The hosts argue this system is rigged to favor a well-funded establishment candidate like Mitt Romney, who can accumulate a lead even without winning every state outright. They suggest both parties may be hesitant to win the 2012 election due to the dire state of the economy.

Keywords: [gop primary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop-primary.md), [delegates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delegates.md), [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), [proportional representation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/proportional-representation.md), election rules

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Ron Paul's Third-Party Prospects and Political Risks (1:10:18–1:13:26)

The hosts debate whether Ron Paul will launch a third-party bid if he fails to secure the Republican nomination. While Paul has publicly denied the possibility, the hosts remain skeptical. The conversation takes a dark turn as they discuss the historical precedent of political assassinations, such as Bobby Kennedy, and the potential for civil unrest if Paul were harmed.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [third party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/third-party.md), [bobby kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bobby-kennedy.md), [assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assassination.md), [gop primary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop-primary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Greenhill & Co. and the Failed AT&T T-Mobile Merger (1:13:27–1:14:26)

The hosts follow up on a previous story regarding a banker from Greenhill & Co. who died in a plane crash. They note that the firm's rankings in the M&A sector plummeted to 40th place following the collapse of the $39 billion AT&T and T-Mobile acquisition, suggesting a link between the failed deal and the firm's misfortunes.

Keywords: greenhill & co, [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [t-mobile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/t-mobile.md), [mergers and acquisitions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mergers-and-acquisitions.md), [financial collapse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-collapse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Joe Biden's Praise for Jon Corzine and MF Global (1:14:30–1:17:48)

A historical clip of Vice President Joe Biden praising Jon Corzine is played, highlighting the administration's close ties to the disgraced MF Global CEO. In the clip, Biden credits Corzine with helping design the national economic recovery plan. The hosts contrast this praise with Corzine's subsequent involvement in the loss of over $1 billion in customer funds.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), jon corzine, [mf global](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mf-global.md), [economic stimulus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-stimulus.md), [new jersey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-jersey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Media Industry Sexism and Broadcasting Standards (1:17:50–1:21:59)

The hosts discuss the superficial standards of the broadcasting industry, citing rumors that female anchors like Paula Zahn were pressured to show more leg on air. They share anecdotes from their own careers, including a story about an MTV VJ allegedly being fired over leg hair and Leo Laporte being told to stop wearing Hawaiian shirts to appear more "serious."

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [erin burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-burnett.md), [paula zahn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paula-zahn.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Nash's Produce and the Port Angeles Carrot Review (1:22:00–1:22:56)

John C. Dvorak provides a brief food tip regarding Nash's Produce in Port Angeles, Washington. He performs an on-air "crunch test" of a carrot he claims is the best he has ever tasted, praising the sweetness and texture of the locally bred vegetable.

Keywords: nash's produce, [port angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-angeles.md), [carrots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carrots.md), [agriculture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agriculture.md), food review

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/29.md)

### 30. UN Cholera Lawsuit in Haiti and Legal Scams (1:22:59–1:29:18)

A human rights group is suing the United Nations on behalf of 5,000 Haitian cholera victims, alleging the disease was introduced by Nepalese peacekeepers. The hosts characterize the lawsuit as a "scam" by Boston-based lawyers looking to extract money from US taxpayers, who fund the UN. They argue that very little of the potential settlement would actually reach the victims.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [cholera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cholera.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [class action](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/class-action.md), institute for justice and democracy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/30.md)

### 31. ACLU Rights Loss List and HTML5 Concerns (1:29:19–1:31:58)

The hosts discuss a list compiled by the ACLU regarding the erosion of civil liberties in the United States. Dvorak claims his research shows a geometric increase in rights loss since the Truman administration. The segment briefly pivots to a technical complaint about the transition from Flash to HTML5 and the persistence of tracking cookies.

Keywords: [aclu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aclu.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [harry truman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-truman.md), [flash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash.md), [html5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/html5.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Montana's NDAA Recall Efforts (1:31:58–1:32:39)

In Montana, citizens are attempting to use a constitutional proviso to recall elected representatives who voted for the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The hosts praise this effort, suggesting that voting for unconstitutional legislation should be grounds for immediate removal from office in all states.

Keywords: [montana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montana.md), [ndaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md), [recall election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recall-election.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/32.md)

### 33. New Orleans National Guard Deployment and Posse Comitatus (1:32:40–1:36:59)

Officials in New Orleans are calling for the National Guard to patrol city streets to combat violent crime, describing the situation as a "war." The hosts argue this is a dangerous step toward the militarization of domestic policing and a violation of the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act. They express concern that the public is being conditioned to feel "comfortable" with troops on the street.

Keywords: [new orleans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-orleans.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), [bobby jindal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bobby-jindal.md), [posse comitatus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/posse-comitatus.md), [militarization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/militarization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/33.md)

### 34. White House Maintenance Budget and Presidential Compensation (1:37:00–1:40:40)

An analysis of HR 2055, the Military Construction and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, reveals the budget for the White House. The hosts are shocked to find that "care, maintenance, and refurnishing" of the executive residence costs over $13.4 million annually. They contrast this $1 million-per-month maintenance bill with the president's $400,000 salary and $50,000 expense allowance.

Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), hr 2055, executive residence

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Year-End Producer Donations and Personal Grievances (1:40:43–1:50:00)

The hosts continue reading listener donations, including a "leet" donation of $133.37 from a wine sommelier in San Antonio. The segment includes various "de-douching" requests and a specific call-out regarding a personal grievance involving a "First Robotics" team and server virtualization. The hosts reiterate that the show is funded entirely by the audience.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), leet, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), first robotics

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/35.md)

### 36. US Postal Service Importance and Alaska Shipping Costs (1:50:01–1:56:03)

A donor from Alaska highlights the vital importance of the US Postal Service for residents in non-contiguous states. While private carriers like UPS charge $20-$30 for small packages to Alaska, the USPS remains affordable and is often the only way to access "free shipping" promotions from retailers like Amazon. The hosts argue that efforts to shut down the post office are a coordinated scam.

Keywords: [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), [shipping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shipping.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [post office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/post-office.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/36.md)

### 37. The Efficacy of the No Agenda Karma Bell (1:56:02–1:59:49)

The hosts discuss the "intrinsic karmic value" of the show's donation model, citing a listener who received a job offer immediately after contributing. They conclude the segment by knighting Ray Jacobson in the "Order of the Dish" for his significant financial support. The hosts reflect on the show's steady growth as they head into 2012.

Keywords: [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [job offers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-offers.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), ray jacobson

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Russian Phobos-Grunt Satellite Re-entry and EMP Speculation (1:59:50–2:04:07)

The hosts discuss the impending crash of the failed Russian Phobos-Grunt spacecraft. They question how US Strategic Command (STRATCOM) can pinpoint the re-entry time and location in Afghanistan so precisely when other satellite falls are treated as unpredictable. They speculate the satellite might be used as a cover for an EMP strike or a targeted operation near the Iranian border.

Keywords: phobos-grunt, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [stratcom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stratcom.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [emp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emp.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/38.md)

### 39. USS Kentucky Submarine Collision and "Fired" Terminology (2:04:08–2:07:16)

A near-collision between the nuclear submarine USS Kentucky and a cargo ship in the Juan de Fuca Strait is discussed. The hosts find it significant that the commanding officer, Joseph Nosey, was reported as being "fired" rather than "relieved of duty." They suggest this linguistic shift reflects the creeping corporatization and militarization of the country.

Keywords: uss kentucky, [submarine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/submarine.md), [navy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy.md), juan de fuca strait, joseph nosey

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Japanese Tsunami Debris Field and Media Animations (2:07:16–2:10:43)

The hosts question news reports claiming a debris field from the Japanese tsunami "the size of California" is approaching the North American coast. They point out the lack of actual satellite imagery or photographs, noting that the media relies exclusively on computer animations. They suspect the story is being exaggerated to maintain a sense of public fear.

Keywords: japan tsunami, [debris field](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debris-field.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [satellite imagery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellite-imagery.md), [media hype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-hype.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Hugo Chavez and the US "Cancer Machine" Claims (2:10:44–2:13:13)

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez suggested that the United States may have developed technology to induce cancer in Latin American leaders. This follows cancer diagnoses for Chavez and the President of Argentina. The hosts mock the idea of a "US cancer machine" while noting the bizarre nature of the claim.

Keywords: [hugo chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hugo-chavez.md), [cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancer.md), [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [argentina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/argentina.md), [latin america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/latin-america.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Failed 2010 Terrorist Attack Predictions (2:13:16–2:15:41)

The hosts revisit a February 2010 clip where intelligence officials, including Leon Panetta and Robert Mueller, stated that a terrorist attack on the US homeland was "certain" within three to six months. Given that no such attack occurred, the hosts use the clip to illustrate the unreliability of government "experts" and their fear-based rhetoric.

Keywords: [leon panetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leon-panetta.md), [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), [dennis blair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dennis-blair.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [predictions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Rewards for Justice Program and State Department Branding (2:15:42–2:27:17)

The State Department's "Rewards for Justice" program is analyzed after it offered $10 million for information on Al-Qaeda financier Yasin al-Suri. The hosts discover the program uses a .net website and is linked to a suspicious NGO. They also note the presence of a Star of David in the program's logo and the Great Seal of the United States, leading to a discussion on hidden symbolism.

Keywords: [rewards for justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rewards-for-justice.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), yasin al-suri, [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), star of david

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/43.md)

### 44. NATO Cyber Warfare Exercises and Stratfor Hack (2:27:17–2:29:12)

NATO conducted a large-scale cyber warfare exercise involving 29 nations to test defenses against energy sector threats and malicious code. The hosts link this exercise to the recent hack of the Stratfor security consulting group, suggesting these events are often coordinated to justify increased internet regulation and security spending.

Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [cyber warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-warfare.md), [stratfor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stratfor.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/44.md)

### 45. McAfee 2012 Cyber Threat Predictions (2:29:12–2:34:03)

Security firm McAfee released its predictions for 2012, warning of "cyber war," increased "hacktivism" from groups like Anonymous, and attacks on virtual currency systems. The hosts dismiss the report as a marketing tactic for security software, noting that the term "cyber war" is often used loosely to describe low-level website defacement.

Keywords: [mcafee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcafee.md), [cyber war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-war.md), [hacktivism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacktivism.md), [anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous.md), [botnets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/botnets.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Joe Lieberman and Taliban Twitter Accounts (2:34:03–2:36:48)

Senator Joe Lieberman called for Twitter to block accounts associated with the Taliban. The hosts argue that these accounts, which report on civilian casualties from drone strikes, are likely "honeypots" used by intelligence agencies to track sympathizers. They note that Lieberman's public outcry only served to increase the accounts' follower counts.

Keywords: [joe lieberman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-lieberman.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [honeypot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honeypot.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Jerome Powell Nomination to the Federal Reserve (2:36:48–2:37:50)

President Obama nominated Jerome Powell to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. The hosts highlight Powell's background as a former partner at the Carlyle Group and a Treasury official under George H.W. Bush. They view the appointment as further evidence of the "revolving door" between private equity, the Fed, and the executive branch.

Keywords: [jerome powell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerome-powell.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [carlyle group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carlyle-group.md), [george h.w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-h-w-bush.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Outro and Interview with Sir Jordan of Invercargill (2:37:50–2:43:07)

The episode concludes with an interview by Maynard featuring Sir Jordan of Invercargill, New Zealand's "most southern listener." They discuss the "vegan agenda" and the presence of a low-level HAARP research facility in the South Island. The hosts sign off, reminding listeners of the upcoming first show of 2012.

Keywords: [maynard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maynard.md), [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), [vegan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vegan.md), [haarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haarp.md), invercargill

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/369-phobos-grunts/chapter/48.md)

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