# Trojan Horse

> A congressional investigation into the Nuclear Regulatory Commission exposes a culture of intimidation as global markets react to the MF Global collapse and European fiscal instability.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 365
- **Published:** 2011-12-15
- **Length:** 2h 28m
- **Topics:** NRC Bullying, [MF Global](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mf-global.md), [Ron Paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [Vocal Fry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vocal-fry.md), [SOPA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sopa.md), [Fort Bragg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-bragg.md), [Nigel Farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse

## About this episode

Nuclear Regulatory Commission Chairman Gregory Jaczko faces intense scrutiny as Representatives Jason Chaffetz and Raul Labrador lead a congressional inquiry into allegations of systemic workplace bullying. Testimonies from fellow commissioners and staff describe a hostile environment under Jaczko, particularly targeting female employees. The investigation highlights a letter sent to the White House regarding his conduct, marking an unprecedented rift within the agency leadership.

Former Goldman Sachs CEO John Corzine testified before the Senate regarding $1.2 billion in missing customer funds at MF Global, claiming ignorance despite his role in authoring the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. In the European Union, Nigel Farage used a Titanic metaphor to describe the Eurozone's trajectory following David Cameron's veto of the fiscal treaty. Meanwhile, the Department of Defense reclassified the 2009 Fort Hood shooting as workplace violence, a move critics argue avoids the label of terrorism. In the media landscape, Rachel Maddow and Chris Wallace face accusations of coordinating a campaign to discredit Ron Paul as he gains momentum in the Iowa caucus. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s PBS interview also drew fire for a State Department transcript that reveals a more cynical diplomatic balancing act than the aired version.

President Barack Obama recycled identical jokes about marrying up to Michelle Obama during a troop return speech at Fort Bragg, mirroring lines used months earlier. Actor Matt Damon attempted to walk back derogatory comments about Disney-style filmmaking while promoting his new film, We Bought a Zoo, on the Today Show. Linguistic trends also take center stage as the Berkeley Hummer theory explains the rise of vocal fry among media figures like Jill Abramson.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 365 Introduction and Live Broadcast Rationale (0:00–1:37)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 365 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss the rationale for broadcasting live to tape without editing, emphasizing the relevance it provides and the interaction with the "human resources" in the chatroom.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [live broadcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-broadcast.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/1.md)

### 2. SOPA Vote Status and C-SPAN Coverage Strategy (1:39–3:14)

The hosts evaluate the likelihood of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) passing, noting that major changes are required for it to proceed. They compare media coverage of the bill, noting CNN's pro-SOPA advertisements and their own reliance on C-SPAN for primary source material, specifically regarding recent Nuclear Regulatory Commission hearings.

Keywords: [sopa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sopa.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [nuclear regulatory commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-regulatory-commission.md), [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Bullying Allegations and Chairman Gregory Jaczko (3:14–14:14)

Congressional hearings investigate allegations of bullying and intimidation by NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko. Testimonies from fellow commissioners and staff describe a hostile work environment, particularly for female employees. Representatives Jason Chaffetz and Raul Labrador confront Jaczko over his management style and a letter sent to the White House regarding his conduct.

Keywords: [nrc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nrc.md), gregory jaczko, [bullying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bullying.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [darrell issa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darrell-issa.md), [jason chaffetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-chaffetz.md), raul labrador

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/3.md)

### 4. President Obama Recycles Jokes at Fort Bragg Troop Return (14:15–17:31)

President Barack Obama is criticized for using identical jokes about "marrying up" to Michelle Obama during a speech at Fort Bragg welcoming troops home from Iraq. The hosts compare the December 2011 footage with a previous speech from October 2011, suggesting a lack of original material from White House speechwriters.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [fort bragg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-bragg.md), [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [comedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comedy.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Executive Producer Credits and Small Modular Reactor Technology (17:32–23:11)

The hosts credit executive producers, including "Atomic" Rod Adams, who discusses the benefits of small modular reactor (SMR) designs. Adams argues that public fear of nuclear energy is fueled by the hydrocarbon industry. The segment transitions into a discussion of the show's value-for-value model and the effort required to monitor multiple news streams.

Keywords: [atomic rod adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atomic-rod-adams.md), [nuclear energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-energy.md), small modular reactors, [hydrocarbons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydrocarbons.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Domain Name Contributions and No Agenda Newsstand App Proposal (23:11–26:02)

Listeners contribute various domain names to the show, including political domains targeting Chelsea Clinton for 2020. A listener suggests the creation of a No Agenda app for the iOS Newsstand to provide an alternative to mainstream outlets like the New York Times.

Keywords: [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md), ios newsstand, [app development](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/app-development.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Jerry Sandusky Legal Defense and 1-800-REALITY Phone Line (26:03–29:30)

During a discussion on the Jerry Sandusky Penn State scandal, the hosts highlight a gaffe by Sandusky's lawyer. The attorney suggested critics dial "1-800-REALITY," which the hosts discover is actually a phone line for adult-oriented "gay and bi-curious" services.

Keywords: [jerry sandusky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-sandusky.md), [penn state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/penn-state.md), sex abuse scandal, [legal defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-defense.md), 1-800-reality

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Media Pet Peeves: "Very Exciting" and "Veggie" Terminology (29:30–31:57)

The hosts critique modern linguistic trends in advertising and media. They express annoyance at the overused phrase "very exciting" in reality television and the use of the word "veggie" in Centrum vitamin commercials, characterizing the latter as juvenile.

Keywords: [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), centrum, [vitamins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitamins.md), [pet peeves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pet-peeves.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Hillary Clinton PBS Interview and Human Rights Rhetoric (31:58–33:15)

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's interview with PBS is analyzed for its rhetoric regarding human rights and democracy. The hosts argue that the State Department's full transcript reveals a more cynical "balancing act" than the edited version aired on public television.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Matt Damon Disney Comments and "We Bought a Zoo" Promotion (33:16–36:39)

Actor Matt Damon's appearance on the Today Show with Matt Lauer is deconstructed. The hosts highlight Damon's attempt to backtrack on previous derogatory comments about "Disney-style" filmmaking while promoting his new movie, "We Bought a Zoo."

Keywords: [matt damon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-damon.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [matt lauer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lauer.md), we bought a zoo, [film promotion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/film-promotion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Executive Order 12473 and Secret Amendments to Military Law (36:40–40:47)

President Obama issued an executive order amending the Manual for Courts-Martial, but the specific annexes detailing the changes remain unavailable to the public. The hosts speculate these "secret laws" are being implemented to influence the upcoming court-martial of Bradley Manning in the WikiLeaks case.

Keywords: [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), manual for courts-martial, [bradley manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bradley-manning.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), secret laws

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Workplace Bullying Trends and HR Department Influence (40:48–47:47)

The discussion shifts to the cultural focus on "adult bullying" in the workplace. The hosts contrast the vilification of average managers with the celebrated aggressive management styles of tech icons like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, arguing that HR departments have over-sensitized the modern workforce.

Keywords: workplace bullying, [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md), [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [labor laws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-laws.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/12.md)

### 13. "Noodles" Employee and the Rise of Workplace Collectivism (47:48–50:40)

A viral clip of a "Noodles & Company" employee advocating for workers to take control of the restaurant is mocked. The hosts characterize his views as a product of the "self-esteem movement" in schools and a misunderstanding of business ownership and investment.

Keywords: [communism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communism.md), [unions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unions.md), [noodles & company](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noodles-company.md), [workplace democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/workplace-democracy.md), [self-esteem movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-esteem-movement.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/13.md)

### 14. European Labor Laws and Gold Market Liquidation (50:40–52:20)

The hosts discuss the difficulty of firing employees in Europe, specifically in Germany and the Netherlands, as a factor in the EU's economic struggles. They also address the falling price of gold, attributing it to banks liquidating assets for cash rather than a loss of intrinsic value.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [labor laws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-laws.md), gold price, [investment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/14.md)

### 15. MF Global Bankruptcy and John Corzine's Congressional Testimony (52:20–1:05:13)

Former Goldman Sachs CEO and New Jersey Governor John Corzine testifies before the Senate regarding $1.2 billion in missing customer funds at MF Global. Despite being a co-author of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, Corzine claims he does not know where the money went, leading to accusations of criminal intermingling of funds.

Keywords: [mf global](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mf-global.md), [john corzine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-corzine.md), [sarbanes-oxley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sarbanes-oxley.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [debbie stabenow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debbie-stabenow.md), missing funds

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Nigel Farage and the UK Veto of the EU Fiscal Treaty (1:05:13–1:09:13)

The hosts review Nigel Farage's reaction to David Cameron's veto of the EU fiscal treaty. Farage uses a "Titanic" metaphor to describe the Eurozone's economic trajectory, while the Chinese news media provides a unique perspective on the growing isolation of Britain within the 27-nation bloc.

Keywords: [nigel farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md), [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [ukip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukip.md), fiscal treaty, [titanic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/titanic.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/16.md)

### 17. NTSB Cell Phone Recommendations and Ron Paul's Response (1:09:14–1:13:01)

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) recommends banning portable electronic devices while driving. The hosts argue this is a marketing push for integrated systems like Ford Sync and OnStar. Congressman Ron Paul criticizes the recommendation as an unconstitutional federal intrusion into state matters.

Keywords: [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [cell phones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cell-phones.md), [bluetooth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bluetooth.md), [ford sync](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ford-sync.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), federal overreach

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Media Bias Against Ron Paul's Iowa Caucus Momentum (1:13:02–1:19:09)

Mainstream media outlets, including MSNBC and Fox News, are accused of coordinating a campaign to discredit Ron Paul as he leads polls in Iowa. The hosts highlight "ageist" comments by Rachel Maddow and attempts by Chris Wallace to frame a Paul victory as a reason to ignore the Iowa caucus results.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [chris wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-wallace.md), [iowa caucus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa-caucus.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Vocal Fry and the "Berkeley Hummer" Linguistic Phenomenon (1:19:10–1:26:13)

The hosts discuss "vocal fry" or glottalization, a low-register speech pattern common among young women and media figures like Jill Abramson. John Dvorak recounts his "Berkeley Hummer" theory from years prior, suggesting the speech pattern acts as a social signifier within specific academic and journalistic circles.

Keywords: [vocal fry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vocal-fry.md), [jill abramson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jill-abramson.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), social milieu

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Listener Donations, Karma Requests, and Birthday Shout-outs (1:26:14–1:45:48)

A lengthy segment dedicated to the show's "value-for-value" model features numerous listener donations. Topics include a listener switching from a Glenn Beck subscription to No Agenda, various requests for "karma" for jobs and health, and a correction regarding a previously misattributed "drunk donation" from Sir Chasin' Rodzilski.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Celebrity Charity Missions to Haiti and the Clinton Foundation (1:45:51–1:48:20)

The hosts criticize high-profile visits to Haiti by Kim Kardashian and Oprah Winfrey. They argue these trips serve as PR for the Clinton Foundation and the Marriott corporation while the majority of the Haitian population remains in poverty two years after the earthquake.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [kim kardashian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-kardashian.md), [oprah winfrey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oprah-winfrey.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [marriott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marriott.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Dick Cheney on Syria and the Iranian Drone "Trojan Horse" (1:48:21–1:52:39)

Former Vice President Dick Cheney discusses the Syrian conflict and the capture of a U.S. drone by Iran. The hosts propose a theory that the drone was a "Trojan Horse" intentionally left for the Iranians, noting the suspicious nature of its intact landing with wheels down.

Keywords: [dick cheney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-cheney.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [drone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone.md), [trojan horse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trojan-horse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Ted Koppel's Iraq Report and the Privatization of Security (1:52:40–1:59:28)

Ted Koppel reports from Iraq for NBC, highlighting the massive continued U.S. presence despite the official troop withdrawal. The discussion covers the role of private contractors, the rebranding of Blackwater to "Academy," and the strategic importance of Iraq's oil reserves.

Keywords: [ted koppel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-koppel.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [green zone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-zone.md), [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [academy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/academy.md), [oil reserves](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-reserves.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Unmanned Aircraft NOTAMs Over New York Airspace (1:59:30–2:02:07)

A "Notice to Airmen" (NOTAM) reveals that unmanned aircraft are operating at 18,000 feet over New York and Connecticut. The hosts discuss the implications of domestic drone flights and the lack of mainstream media coverage regarding military-grade drones in U.S. civilian airspace.

Keywords: [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [notam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/notam.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), unmanned aircraft

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Fort Hood Shooting Reclassified as Workplace Violence (2:02:09–2:06:08)

The Department of Defense's classification of the 2009 Fort Hood shooting as "workplace violence" rather than terrorism is criticized. The hosts suggest this is part of a broader agenda to shift the definition of terrorism toward domestic citizens while avoiding the recognition of Islamist-motivated attacks.

Keywords: [fort hood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-hood.md), [nidal hasan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nidal-hasan.md), [workplace violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/workplace-violence.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [ndaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md), [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Listener "Mr. Oil" Wedding and C-SPAN House Business (2:06:09–2:08:02)

The hosts share a wedding photo from a long-time listener, "Mr. Oil," and joke about his wife's potential as a host for Russia Today. They briefly transition to the mundane nature of C-SPAN's "House Business" segments, which they monitor for the show.

Keywords: [mr. oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mr-oil.md), [russia today](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia-today.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md), [wedding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wedding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Liege Shooting in Belgium and False Flag Speculation (2:08:03–2:10:24)

A mass shooting in Liege, Belgium, is discussed with skepticism. The hosts, citing correspondence with a local listener, suggest the event may be a "false flag" designed to instill fear and justify new government controls, noting the attacker's previous history with illegal firearms.

Keywords: liege, [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [false flag](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/false-flag.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), baron von pelsenmacher

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Pfizer's "Vaginal Dryness" Advertising and Estrogen Promotion (2:10:24–2:16:41)

The hosts analyze a new Pfizer marketing campaign for menopause treatments focusing on "vaginal dryness." They deconstruct the commercial's target demographic and the pharmaceutical industry's push for hormone replacement therapy, noting the "vocal fry" of the actresses in the ads.

Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [menopause](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/menopause.md), [estrogen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/estrogen.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [pharmaceutical industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Representative Raul Labrador Confronts NRC Chairman Jaczko (2:16:42–2:22:56)

In a final C-SPAN clip, Representative Raul Labrador of Idaho aggressively questions NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko. Labrador criticizes Jaczko's refusal to admit any management failures despite unprecedented complaints from all four of his fellow commissioners.

Keywords: raul labrador, gregory jaczko, [nrc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nrc.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), management style

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/365-trojan-horse/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Interview with Sir Thomas of Virginia on No Agenda Knighthood (2:22:56–2:27:56)

Maynard interviews Sir Thomas of Virginia, a Knight of the No Agenda roundtable. Sir Thomas discusses his background in the Navy, his experience attending "Hot Pockets Tour" meetups, and his support for the show's commercial-free, value-for-value business model.

Keywords: [sir thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-thomas.md), [maynard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maynard.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [challenge coins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/challenge-coins.md)

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