# Katy Bar The Door, Baby!

> A congressional showdown over gun-walking operations collides with suspicious Hollywood media events and the quiet militarization of domestic law enforcement through the latest defense authorization act.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 364
- **Published:** 2011-12-11
- **Length:** 2h 31m
- **Topics:** [Fast and Furious](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-and-furious.md), NDAA detention, Hollywood shooting, Iranian drone, [GOP debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gop-debate.md), ESM compact
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby

## About this episode

Attorney General Eric Holder faced intense congressional scrutiny this week as Representative Sandy Adams and Darrell Issa pressed for transparency regarding the Fast and Furious gun-walking operation. The testimony revealed a pattern of evasive maneuvers, including Holder's refusal to confirm if he was under oath and his failure to review weekly reports detailing the cross-border weapons flow. The proceedings highlight a growing rift between the Department of Justice and a House committee now threatening contempt of Congress charges.

Beyond the Beltway, a 6.7 magnitude earthquake in Guerrero, Mexico, struck a region central to the weapons smuggling controversy, fueling theories regarding man-made tectonic events. In Hollywood, a shooting at the intersection of Hollywood and Vine is under fire as a potential media stunt after witness Chris Johns was identified as a film director with ties to Obama administration tax policy websites. Meanwhile, the National Defense Authorization Act moves forward with a shocking request from the Obama administration to remove language exempting U.S. citizens from indefinite detention provisions.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the visual theater of the GOP debates, noting how camera angles and blue backgrounds were used to manipulate candidate stature. The duo also explores the 'They Live' reality of modern consumerism and the bizarre domestic use of Predator B drones to resolve cattle disputes in North Dakota. This episode features a knighting ceremony for Sir Richard Scott Bagwell and a satirical pitch from the newly formed Curry Dvorak Consultancy Group.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/transcript.md.

### 1. Podcast Introduction, Beethoven Stinger, and Human Resources Greeting (0:00–2:35)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 364 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They joke about a drone landing in Iran before discussing the origin of their "Crackpot & Buzzkill" musical stinger, which Dvorak jokingly attributes to Beethoven via Apple's GarageBand. The hosts greet their live audience, referred to as "human resources," in the chatroom.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [beethoven](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beethoven.md), garage band, [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Political Insanity, Pince-Nez Glasses, and Monocle Pretentiousness (2:36–5:51)

Adam Curry asserts that world leaders and politicians are insane megalomaniacs, a premise Dvorak cautiously accepts. They introduce the concept of the "Curry Dvorak Consultancy Group" to present strategies for the Obama administration. The conversation shifts to academic fashion, specifically the use of pince-nez glasses and monocles, debating which is more pretentious for a professor persona.

Keywords: megalomaniacs, consultancy group, pince-nez, monocle, professor glasses

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Lois Whitman, Alec Baldwin, and Zynga PR Stunts (5:51–9:22)

PR expert Lois Whitman releases a YouTube video claiming Alec Baldwin's removal from an American Airlines flight was a staged PR strategy. The incident involved Baldwin playing "Words with Friends," a game owned by Zynga, which was scheduled to go public the following week. The hosts admit they have been lax in deconstructing such obvious media stunts and credit Whitman for the call to action.

Keywords: lois whitman, [alec baldwin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alec-baldwin.md), [american airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-airlines.md), words with friends, [zynga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zynga.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Eric Holder, Fast and Furious, and Gun Control Rhetoric (9:22–14:16)

Attorney General Eric Holder testifies before a congressional committee regarding the "Fast and Furious" gun-walking scandal. Representative Ted Deutch is criticized for using the hearing to pivot toward gun control rhetoric and "long guns" rather than addressing the operational failures. The hosts argue the program was designed to facilitate gun confiscation by highlighting gun violence statistics involving children and teens.

Keywords: [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [fast and furious](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-and-furious.md), [ted deutch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-deutch.md), [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md), [assault weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assault-weapons.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Guerrero Earthquake, Mexico Drug Violence, and Tectonic Theories (14:16–15:42)

A 6.7 magnitude earthquake strikes Guerrero, Mexico, a region known for high levels of drug gang violence and the assassination of local mayors. Adam Curry notes the coincidence of the earthquake occurring in a location central to the weapons smuggling controversy. He briefly references his theories on man-made earthquake mechanisms and machines.

Keywords: guerrero, [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [earthquake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake.md), drug gangs, [earthquake machine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake-machine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Hollywood Shooter, Chris Johns, and Staged Media Events (15:43–21:23)

A shooting incident at the intersection of Hollywood and Vine is analyzed as a potential staged event or movie set. Adam Curry points out the lack of traffic, the absence of blood on the victim, and the presence of a white sheet typically used in film production. Witness Chris Johns is interviewed by Don Lemon, raising suspicions due to his calm demeanor and "calculated" decision to draw the shooter's fire.

Keywords: hollywood and vine, chris johns, [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [lapd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lapd.md), movie set

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Chris Johns, Tyler Douglas Brehm, and Political Activism (21:23–25:42)

Investigation into witness Chris Johns reveals he is a film director and executive producer with credits involving Ben Stiller. Johns is also linked to the website wedontmind.org, which promotes Obama administration tax policies. The shooter, Tyler Douglas Brehm, is noted for having a Filipino mother, which the hosts link to Johns' ownership of a Filipino dating site, suggesting deep connections between the parties.

Keywords: chris johns, tyler douglas brehm, wedontmind.org, [imdb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imdb.md), filipina dating

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Media Discrepancies, Allahu Akbar Claims, and Witness Actors (25:42–29:50)

The hosts review KTLA news footage of the Hollywood shooting, identifying what they believe are actors posing as witnesses. One witness claims the shooter was shouting "Allahu Akbar," a detail the hosts dismiss as a ludicrous addition to the narrative. They argue the entire event is a distraction from congressional proceedings regarding the Fast and Furious scandal.

Keywords: [ktla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ktla.md), allahu akbar, don rydell, [lapd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lapd.md), [witness testimony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/witness-testimony.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Executive Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony, and Donation Haikus (29:51–38:22)

Richard Scott Bagwell is knighted as an Executive Producer after a significant donation from Boiling Springs, South Carolina. Other donors include Noam Malinowski, who requests a posthumous knighthood for a cat named Snuffles, and Frederick Gangnol from Ontario. Carrie Schoen contributes based on her marathon mileage, and David Yagley submits a haiku about enemy combatants and drones.

Keywords: richard scott bagwell, [spartanburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spartanburg.md), snuffles, wasaga beach, [marathon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marathon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/9.md)

### 10. No Agenda Social Spam, Ramsey, and New Domain Ventures (38:23–40:52)

Ramsey, the administrator of the No Agenda social network, reports that the site was overwhelmed by a spam bot creating 29,000 pages in one day. Due to technical limitations at GoDaddy, the site has been shut down and forwarded to the main show page. Meanwhile, a listener registers currydvorakconsultancy.com to support the hosts' new satirical business venture.

Keywords: ramsey, go daddy, spam bot, curry dvorak consultancy, after the beep

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Eric Holder, Congressional Oath, and General Title Confusion (40:52–43:18)

The hosts criticize the practice of addressing Attorney General Eric Holder as "General," arguing it is a job title rather than a military rank. During his testimony, Holder gives an evasive answer regarding whether he is technically under oath, stating only that he has an "obligation to tell the truth." The hosts characterize this behavior as deceptive and typical of the administration.

Keywords: [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [perjury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perjury.md), [oath of office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oath-of-office.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Sandy Adams, International Borders, and Weekly Reports (43:19–45:42)

Representative Sandy Adams questions Eric Holder on what level of operation requires his personal sign-off, specifically regarding operations that cross international borders. Holder claims he did not review the weekly reports that mentioned the Fast and Furious operation. The hosts praise Adams for her direct questioning regarding the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

Keywords: sandy adams, [brian terry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-terry.md), international borders, weekly reports, [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Personal Emails, Clean Hands Doctrine, and Beagle Boys (45:43–51:00)

Eric Holder refuses to commit to providing personal emails related to the Fast and Furious investigation, citing Department of Justice tradition. The hosts mock an aide whispering in Holder's ear, comparing him to the "Beagle Boys" from Scrooge McDuck comics. They also explore the "Clean Hands Doctrine," a legal principle regarding unfair conduct, in the context of Holder's refusal to be transparent.

Keywords: [lanny breuer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lanny-breuer.md), clean hands doctrine, scrooge mcduck, [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Agent Brian Terry, Remorse, and Congressional Filibustering (51:01–53:43)

During the hearing, Eric Holder is pressed on whether he has personally apologized to the family of fallen Agent Brian Terry. Holder claims to have had "contact" with the family but refuses to disclose the nature of the interaction in a public setting. The hosts describe his lengthy, repetitive responses as a filibuster designed to avoid a simple "yes" or "no" answer.

Keywords: [brian terry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-terry.md), remorse, [apology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apology.md), [congressional hearing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-hearing.md), [filibuster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/filibuster.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Darrell Issa, Contempt of Congress, and John Mitchell Comparison (53:46–57:28)

Representative Darrell Issa warns Eric Holder that he is in contempt of Congress for failing to provide subpoenaed materials without citing a constitutional exemption. A reference is made to John Mitchell, the Nixon-era Attorney General who went to jail for his role in the Watergate cover-up. Dvorak provides a historical overview of Mitchell's conviction for conspiracy and obstruction of justice.

Keywords: [darrell issa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darrell-issa.md), [contempt of congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contempt-of-congress.md), john mitchell, [watergate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/watergate.md), [nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nixon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Jason Chaffetz, White House Communications, and Media Blackout (57:29–1:00:26)

Representative Jason Chaffetz questions how President Obama could claim no involvement in Fast and Furious if he and Holder never spoke about it. Holder explains that information flows through the White House Counsel's office rather than direct conversation. The hosts lament the lack of coverage of these explosive details in major outlets like the New York Times.

Keywords: [jason chaffetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-chaffetz.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), dennis burke, [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Reggie Love, Bill Daley, and The Grinch Address (1:00:27–1:02:51)

The hosts speculate that Reggie Love's departure from the White House was orchestrated by Chief of Staff Bill Daley to strip Love of executive privilege before potential subpoenas. They also mock President Obama's weekly address, where he urged Congress not to be "a Grinch" regarding tax legislation. Dvorak notes Obama's rhetoric about taking Al-Qaeda leaders "off the field" rather than saying they were killed.

Keywords: [reggie love](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reggie-love.md), [bill daley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-daley.md), [executive privilege](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-privilege.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), grinch

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/17.md)

### 18. They Live, John Carpenter, and Alien Elites (1:02:51–1:07:30)

The hosts discuss the 1988 John Carpenter film "They Live," starring wrestler Roddy Piper. They describe the plot involving special sunglasses that reveal alien elites using mind control signals through television to force consumerism and obedience. A clip is played featuring a character explaining that "there ain't no countries anymore" and that selling out to the winning team is just business.

Keywords: [they live](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/they-live.md), [john carpenter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-carpenter.md), roddy piper, [mind control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mind-control.md), [consumerism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumerism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Obama Drone Policy and Global Insanity (1:07:31–1:09:08)

A clip of President Obama highlights his administration's success in taking 22 out of 30 top Al-Qaeda leaders "off the field." Adam Curry reiterates his opening statement that the people running the world are insane. He links the rhetoric of the Obama administration and Eric Holder to a broader pattern of deceptive global governance.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [middle east](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-east.md), insanity

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Hillary Clinton, The Hague, and Eric Schmidt Conspiracy (1:09:09–1:14:49)

Hillary Clinton attends a National Security Conference in The Hague, where she refers to Google's Eric Schmidt as a "co-conspirator." The hosts mock her appearance and her relationship with Huma Abedin. They also criticize her speech regarding the protection of online journalists, noting the hypocrisy given the treatment of Julian Assange and the lack of support for independent shows like No Agenda.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [huma abedin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huma-abedin.md), [the hague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-hague.md), [eric schmidt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-schmidt.md), [madurodam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madurodam.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/20.md)

### 21. GOP Debate, Newt Gingrich, and Recording Failures (1:14:54–1:18:55)

During an ABC News GOP debate, Newt Gingrich delivers a "zinger" against Mitt Romney, pointing out that Romney only avoided being a career politician because he lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994. Mid-discussion, Adam Curry realizes his primary recorder has failed, prompting a call to the chatroom for backup recordings. A listener named "Lone Squirrel" confirms the show is being archived.

Keywords: [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), teddy kennedy, [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [lone squirrel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-squirrel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and the Ten Thousand Dollar Bet (1:18:55–1:20:35)

Mitt Romney challenges Rick Perry to a $10,000 bet during the debate over a disagreement regarding Romney's book and the Massachusetts healthcare mandate. The hosts criticize the bet as juvenile and a sign of Romney's elitism. They compare the high-stakes wager to their own modest one-dollar bets, suggesting the moment makes both candidates look like children.

Keywords: [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), [individual mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/individual-mandate.md), [elitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elitism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Ron Paul, Oath of Office, and Government Reduction (1:20:35–1:22:56)

Ron Paul uses a question about moral character to pivot to the importance of the oath of office. He argues that if politicians took their oath seriously, 80% of the government would be eliminated, the budget would be balanced, and the Federal Reserve would be abolished. Paul also speaks against the Patriot Act and the United States acting as a global policeman.

Keywords: [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [article 1 section 8](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/article-1-section-8.md), [patriot act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-act.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Debate Camera Angles, Candidate Heights, and Apple Crates (1:22:56–1:27:09)

Dvorak analyzes the visual production of the GOP debate, noting that Rick Santorum is the tallest candidate at 6'4" while Michelle Bachmann stands on a "half-crate" to appear level with others. He claims the camera angles were manipulated to make Ron Paul look smaller and less presidential compared to Gingrich and Romney. The use of blue backgrounds for certain candidates is also identified as a psychological trick.

Keywords: [rick santorum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-santorum.md), [michelle bachmann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-bachmann.md), [camera angles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/camera-angles.md), apple crates, [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Reality Show Politics and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (1:27:09–1:28:32)

The hosts compare the current political cycle to a reality show where candidates are "voted off the island." They predict that at least two candidates will be eliminated after the Iowa caucuses. Adam Curry notes with irony that a broadcast of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" received higher television ratings than the political debate.

Keywords: [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [iowa caucuses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa-caucuses.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), rudolph the red-nosed reindeer, [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Newt Gingrich, Palestinian Invention, and Debate Body Language (1:28:33–1:31:29)

Newt Gingrich sparks controversy by claiming the Palestinian people are an "invented" group. The hosts suggest Gingrich is intentionally making radical statements to increase his media value rather than actually wanting the presidency. They also observe Rick Perry's submissive body language when standing next to Mitt Romney, suggesting Perry is positioning himself as a potential vice-presidential pick.

Keywords: [newt gingrich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newt-gingrich.md), [palestinians](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palestinians.md), jewish news network, [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), [body language](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-language.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/26.md)

### 27. NDAA, Indefinite Detention, and Obama Administration Requests (1:31:29–1:37:24)

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) moves toward the President's desk, including the 1033 program for militarizing local police. Senator Carl Levin reveals that the Obama administration specifically requested the removal of language that would have exempted U.S. citizens from indefinite detention provisions. The hosts express shock that the administration actively sought the power to detain citizens as "supporters of Al-Qaeda."

Keywords: [ndaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md), [carl levin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carl-levin.md), [indefinite detention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indefinite-detention.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), 1033 program

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/27.md)

### 28. UK Riots, Bestiality Repeal, and Police Funding (1:37:24–1:40:15)

A BBC Newsnight report suggests the London riots were primarily anti-police, with citizens frustrated by aggressive law enforcement. The hosts also discuss a provision in the NDAA that reportedly repeals prohibitions on sodomy and bestiality to comply with the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" repeal. They joke about the inclusion of farm animals as a "bonus" in the legislation.

Keywords: [newsnight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsnight.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [london riots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london-riots.md), [sodomy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sodomy.md), [don't ask don't tell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-t-ask-don-t-tell.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Bank of America Complaints, Karma Coins, and Tipping Paperboys (1:40:15–1:48:05)

Listeners contribute donations while complaining about Bank of America's service. James Ogilvie and Sarah Greer send Christmas gifts, while Keith Thompson and others contribute to the "super karma coin" fund. A donor named Cole Calistra requests karma for his mother battling spinal cancer. The hosts joke that they are being "tipped" like paperboys for their five hours of weekly service.

Keywords: [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), karma coin, covington, [spartanburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spartanburg.md), spinal cancer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Cocktail Party Intelligence and Bank Teller Encounters (1:48:07–1:51:34)

Adam Curry suggests that the show's analysis provides listeners with "cocktail party intelligence" to make them look smart, though he warns against being too direct about staged events. Dvorak shares an anecdote about a bank teller in Albany who agreed that the news is "all bogus." They also praise their favorite bank employee, Stephanie Rogers, for her excellent service.

Keywords: [cocktail parties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocktail-parties.md), bank teller, [albany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albany.md), stephanie rogers, no agenda card

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Birthday Shoutouts, Knighting Sir Richard, and Heckling Eric Holder (1:51:35–1:54:45)

The hosts deliver birthday greetings to Christopher Hsu, Tanya Foster, and nuclear expert Atomic Rod Adams. Richard Scott Bagwell is officially knighted as "Sir Richard" for his $1,000 contribution. Adam Curry mentions he plans to attend a welcoming party for Eric Holder at the LBJ Library in Austin to potentially "mic check" or heckle the Attorney General.

Keywords: christopher hsu, tanya foster, [atomic rod adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atomic-rod-adams.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), lbj library

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Austin Farmers Market, Sorrel Sauce, and San Francisco Elitism (1:54:48–1:58:05)

Adam Curry describes a positive experience at a downtown Austin farmers market, praising the local farmers and a "chicken lady" who gave a discount to a father to avoid embarrassing him. He compares this to the "joke" farmers markets in San Francisco, which he describes as overpriced and populated by elites with Chanel bags who don't understand real agriculture.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [farmers market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farmers-market.md), sorrel, chicken lady, [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/32.md)

### 33. European Fiscal Compact, ESM, and British Defiance (1:58:06–2:03:52)

The "European Stability Mechanism" (ESM) and a new "fiscal compact" are introduced to enforce financial discipline across the Eurozone. The hosts explain that the term "compact" is used to bypass the need for public referendums required for treaties. Britain's refusal to join is attributed to a desire to protect the City of London and a potential US-UK tandem effort to undermine the Euro.

Keywords: [esm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esm.md), fiscal compact, [haiku herman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiku-herman.md), treaty of nice, [city of london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-of-london.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Global Debt Strategy, Collateral Seizure, and Housing Market Collapse (2:03:53–2:08:27)

The "Curry Dvorak Consultancy Group" presents a satirical pitch to the Obama administration regarding global debt. They suggest that countries should be forced into unpayable debt so that the IMF and banks like Goldman Sachs can seize assets as collateral. The strategy includes depressing housing prices to push people out of their homes before the banks take over the properties at low prices.

Keywords: [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [collateral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collateral.md), housing prices

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Iran War Strategy, October Surprise, and Sitting Presidents (2:08:28–2:11:16)

The consultancy group proposes an "October Surprise" involving a strike on Iran to ensure President Obama's re-election. Dvorak notes the historical fractal that a sitting U.S. president has never been ousted during a time of war. They suggest a fake assassination or a ratings agency scam in September could set the stage for a military conflict just before the November election.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [october surprise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/october-surprise.md), sitting president, [war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war.md), [election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/35.md)

### 36. AT&T Oklahoma, Global Collapse, and Media Throttling (2:11:17–2:13:51)

Dvorak recounts a conversation with an AT&T technician in Oklahoma who claimed a contact at the Federal Reserve warned of an imminent global financial collapse. The technician noted that people in Oklahoma are prepared with "ten guns for every person." The hosts express hope that major media companies like Comcast will stay on the air to continue broadcasting the show during a collapse.

Keywords: [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [oklahoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [time warner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-warner.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Ban Ki-moon, Homophobic Bullying, and Karma for Sam (2:13:54–2:17:37)

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's statement on homophobic bullying is criticized as a potential threat to free speech. The hosts argue that while violence is already illegal, these new provisos are about controlling language. They also read a letter from a drunk college student requesting karma for his friend Sam, who is going through a breakup, and for himself to end a 14-month dry spell.

Keywords: [ban ki-moon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ban-ki-moon.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [coors light](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coors-light.md), bad breakup

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Pilotless Airliners, IEEE Spectrum, and Predator Drones in North Dakota (2:17:37–2:21:41)

The hosts discuss the push for pilotless commercial airliners, citing reports from Popular Mechanics and the IEEE Spectrum. They highlight a case in Nelson County, North Dakota, where a Predator B drone was used by local law enforcement to resolve a standoff over six missing cows. This is presented as evidence of the increasing domestic use of military drone technology.

Keywords: [air france 447](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france-447.md), ieee spectrum, [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), nelson county, [predator drone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predator-drone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Iranian Stealth Drone, Intelligence Catastrophe, and Honeypot Theories (2:21:42–2:28:20)

The capture of a U.S. stealth drone by Iran is analyzed, with the hosts questioning how it landed in "pristine condition." A "Virginia insider" suggests the loss was due to incompetence or was an intentional "honeypot" operation to feed misinformation to Russia and China. They joke about the drone containing obsolete technology like a Z80 computer to confuse Iranian engineers.

Keywords: stealth drone, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md), virginia insider, z80 computer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/39.md)

### 40. World Trade Center 7, NIST Report, and Show Outro (2:28:20–2:31:24)

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) is expected to release a report claiming ordinary fires caused the collapse of World Trade Center 7. Adam Curry notes the disappearance of Syria from the news and mentions an upcoming analysis of the Salafi movement. The show concludes with a reminder of the next live stream and a sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [nist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nist.md), [wtc7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wtc7.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), salafis, [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/364-katy-bar-the-door-baby/chapter/40.md)

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