# Hornbag

> As Adam Curry trades Los Angeles for a Texas ranch, the global financial system stutters with a Belgian bank bailout and police-guarded ATMs in Missouri.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 345
- **Published:** 2011-10-06
- **Length:** 2h 32m
- **Topics:** Dexia collapse, [Occupy Wall Street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/occupy-wall-street.md), Austin relocation, [Fast and Furious](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-and-furious.md), [Bank fees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-fees.md), NPR CEO, Drone expansion
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag

## About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast with news of Curry’s relocation to a three-acre ranch in Austin, Texas, marking a significant shift for the show’s production. The move coincides with a Belgian-French banking crisis as Dexia faces a massive liquidity injection and the creation of a bad bank to house toxic assets. Meanwhile, Bank of America customers in St. Louis report heavy police and SWAT presence at local branches to prevent a mini-run on deposits following the announcement of new monthly debit card fees.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke testified before Congress regarding the Occupy Wall Street movement, acknowledging that protesters have justification in blaming the financial sector for 9% unemployment. Republican candidate Herman Cain, a former Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City chairman, dismissed the activists, while billionaire George Soros expressed public sympathy for the anti-bank sentiment. In Canada, Foreign Minister John Baird faces scrutiny after MP Scott Bryson mocked the use of gold-lettered business cards. Additionally, Attorney General Eric Holder is under fire for newly surfaced 2010 memos regarding Operation Fast and Furious, contradicting his previous testimony about the gun-walking program.

The cultural landscape shifts as ESPN fires country singer Hank Williams Jr. for comparing a golf outing between President Obama and John Boehner to a meeting between Hitler and Netanyahu. In the UK, train stations in Bath are implementing full-body scanners, while California mandates new Global Warming Scores for vehicle sales. The show also celebrates the knighthood of James Carson and Beto Echavarrieta during a formal ceremony recognizing major contributions to the value-for-value model.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 345 Introduction and Southern California Weather (0:00–1:31)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 345 of the No Agenda show on October 6, 2011. The hosts exchange greetings from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley while acknowledging the live stream audience at noagennachat.net. Initial banter covers local weather conditions and the technical setup of the broadcast.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [southern california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-california.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Adam Curry Relocating to Austin Texas Ranch (1:32–9:10)

Adam Curry announces he has signed a lease on a new property in Austin, Texas, with a move-in date of November 15, 2011. He describes the search process involving 15 to 20 homes before selecting a three-acre ranch in the Lake Travis area. The new residence is twice the size of his current Los Angeles home at 60% of the cost and includes a windowless room suitable for a recording studio.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [lake travis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lake-travis.md), [moving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moving.md), ranch

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Router Buffer Overflow and Technical Network Issues (9:11–11:09)

A discussion regarding home networking issues highlights the necessity of rebooting high-end routers to maintain internet speeds. One host describes experiencing sluggish performance and site loading failures until a router reset restored a 26 Mbps download speed. The technical cause is identified as buffer overflow, a common issue in consumer-grade networking hardware.

Keywords: [router](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/router.md), buffer overflow, [internet speed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-speed.md), [technical support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-support.md), [networking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/networking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Hudson's on the Bend Restaurant Game Meat Review (11:09–12:54)

During a visit to Austin, the hosts dined at Hudson's on the Bend, a restaurant specializing in game meats. The meal included elk rubbed with coffee grinds and chocolate, as well as trout fed on shrimp to produce a pinkish color. The culinary experience is cited as a highlight of the scouting trip to Texas.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), hudson's on the bend, game meat, elk, trout

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Occupy Wall Street Movement and Media Co-option Claims (12:54–20:56)

The Occupy Wall Street protests are analyzed as a movement potentially co-opted by the Obama administration and labor unions. A clip from Al Sharpton's program features "organizer" Harrison Schultz, who describes the movement as a "conversation" rather than a set of specific policy goals. The hosts argue that mainstream media and political figures are using the protests to distract from failed economic policies.

Keywords: [occupy wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/occupy-wall-street.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), harrison schultz, [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Erin Burnett CNN Segment on Wall Street Protesters (20:56–23:26)

CNN host Erin Burnett is criticized for a segment titled "Seriously?" regarding the Occupy Wall Street protests. The hosts highlight a teleprompter error where she mispronounced "banjos" and mock her interaction with protesters. Burnett's membership in the Council on Foreign Relations is noted as a point of skepticism regarding her journalistic objectivity.

Keywords: [erin burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-burnett.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md), [council on foreign relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/council-on-foreign-relations.md), prompter flub

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Ben Bernanke Congressional Testimony on Economic Dissatisfaction (23:27–25:03)

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke addressed the Wall Street protests during a congressional hearing aired on C-SPAN. Bernanke acknowledged that public unhappiness stems from the state of the economy and 9% unemployment. He stated that protesters have some justification in blaming the financial sector for the current economic crisis.

Keywords: [ben bernanke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-bernanke.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [unemployment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment.md), [financial sector](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-sector.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Herman Cain Federal Reserve Background and Protest Comments (25:04–28:12)

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain's background as the former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City is highlighted. Cain dismissed the Occupy Wall Street protesters, claiming they should "blame themselves" for not having jobs or being rich. The hosts criticize Cain for being a "bankster" in the system despite his public persona as a pizza industry executive.

Keywords: [herman cain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herman-cain.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), 9-9-9 tax plan, [kansas city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kansas-city.md), [presidential candidate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-candidate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Joe Biden and Van Jones on Protest Frustrations (28:14–30:40)

Vice President Joe Biden commented on the similarities between the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movement, citing a shared sense of overwhelming frustration in America. Biden claimed to have little knowledge of Van Jones's specific involvement in the protests. The hosts suggest the administration is attempting to manage the narrative of civil unrest.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [tea party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tea-party.md), political frustration, [grassroots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grassroots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/9.md)

### 10. George Soros Expresses Sympathy for Anti-Bank Protests (30:41–32:26)

Billionaire financier George Soros expressed sympathy for the anti-bank protests during a meeting at the United Nations headquarters. Soros noted the frustration of small business owners facing high credit card interest rates and the perception of tax loopholes for the wealthy. The hosts mock Soros's public stance given his status as a global elite.

Keywords: [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), credit card fees, [wealth gap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth-gap.md), financier

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/10.md)

### 11. IRC Chatroom Conflicts and Monetary Policy Criticism (32:27–34:50)

The Occupy Wall Street IRC channel on Freenode is described as a site of internal conflict between genuine protesters and potential shills. A clip of a protester criticizing the federal government's printing of fiat currency is played. The speaker argues that inflation acts as a hidden tax and advocates for a return to gold and silver as real money.

Keywords: [irc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irc.md), [freenode](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freenode.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [gold standard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-standard.md), [federal government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-government.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/11.md)

### 12. US Police State Comparisons and Syrian Travelogue (34:50–39:01)

The United States is characterized as a police state with high incarceration rates and the use of drones against its own citizens. An anecdote from an Orthodox Christian priest traveling to Syria is shared, where he felt more threatened by security forces at Chicago's O'Hare Airport than in Syria. The hosts discuss the "upside-down" nature of modern civil liberties.

Keywords: [police state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-state.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), chicago airport, [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [incarceration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/incarceration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Canadian Parliament Golden Business Card Scandal (39:02–40:23)

Canadian Member of Parliament Scott Bryson criticized the Foreign Minister for using gold lettering on business cards, which allegedly violates Treasury Board rules. During the parliamentary session, Bryson used the term "golden showers" to describe the Conservative ministers' spending habits. The hosts find the unintended double entendre highly amusing.

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), scott bryson, [golden showers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/golden-showers.md), treasury board, [business cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-cards.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/13.md)

### 14. No Agenda Donor Acknowledgments and Knighting Ceremony (40:24–46:26)

The hosts acknowledge significant financial contributions from the "No Agenda" community, including donations of $345.67 and $569.00. Donors such as Jordi Ramirez, Barry Hanna, and Glen Riccio are thanked for their support. James Carson from Switzerland is recognized for reaching the level of knighthood after two years of listening.

Keywords: [jordi ramirez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordi-ramirez.md), [barry hanna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-hanna.md), glen riccio, james carson, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/14.md)

### 15. No Agenda PR Initiatives and Challenge Coins (46:27–50:56)

Various listener-led PR initiatives are discussed, including the registration of domain names like "don-drone-me-bro.com" and the launch of a No Agenda Roku channel. A new "11-11-11 Super Karma" coin is announced for pre-sale. Adam Curry recounts finding a lost challenge coin in a closet at a friend's house in Austin.

Keywords: [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md), [roku](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roku.md), [challenge coins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/challenge-coins.md), [11-11-11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/11-11-11.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Formula One Racing and Sports in Austin (50:57–53:49)

The hosts discuss the upcoming arrival of Formula One racing in Austin in 2012. Adam Curry expresses a newfound interest in local sports, including University of Texas football, as part of his transition to becoming a Texas resident. The segment touches on the cultural shift from Los Angeles to the Austin lifestyle.

Keywords: [formula one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formula-one.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [university of texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-texas.md), [sports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sports.md), [ferrari](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ferrari.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Dexia Bank Collapse and European Debt Crisis (53:49–56:34)

The Belgian-French bank Dexia is facing a liquidity crisis, leading to a rescue plan involving the creation of a "bad bank" to house toxic assets. The French and Belgian governments are intervening to prevent the bank's troubles from destabilizing the broader eurozone. Taxpayers are expected to cover the costs of the restructuring as depositors begin withdrawing funds.

Keywords: dexia, [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), bad bank, [eurozone crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurozone-crisis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/17.md)

### 18. US Ratings Agencies and European Economic Sabotage (56:34–58:37)

A theory is presented suggesting that US-based ratings agencies like Moody's and Standard & Poor's are intentionally downgrading European nations to sabotage the Euro. The recent three-notch downgrade of Italy is cited as evidence. The hosts discuss how these financial maneuvers benefit American interests at the expense of European stability.

Keywords: [moody's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moody-s.md), [standard & poor's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/standard-poor-s.md), ratings agencies, [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [economic warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-warfare.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Bank of America Withdrawal Restrictions and Police Presence (58:37–1:00:25)

Reports from St. Louis indicate that police and SWAT teams were stationed at Bank of America locations to manage groups of people attempting to withdraw their funds. A clip features a customer describing being blocked from entering the bank despite having valid identification. The hosts characterize these events as a "mini-run" on the bank that is being ignored by mainstream media.

Keywords: [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), [st. louis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-louis.md), [bank run](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-run.md), [swat team](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swat-team.md), [discrimination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discrimination.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Debit Card Fees and Community Banking Alternatives (1:00:28–1:02:47)

The controversy surrounding Bank of America's proposed $5 monthly debit card fee is discussed in the context of market competition. The hosts argue that instead of government intervention, consumers should move their accounts to small community banks that offer better service and no fees. They emphasize that many smaller institutions did not take TARP bailout money and remain more customer-focused.

Keywords: debit card fees, [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), [community banks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community-banks.md), [free market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-market.md), [regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regulation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/20.md)

### 21. European Fat Taxes and GE MyPlate Microwave Button (1:02:48–1:05:23)

Norway and Belgium are reportedly considering or implementing "fat taxes" on unhealthy foods to influence public health. In a related development, General Electric has partnered with the USDA to feature a "MyPlate.gov" button on microwaves to guide healthy cooking. The hosts view these initiatives as examples of the encroaching "nanny state."

Keywords: fat tax, [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/21.md)

### 22. ABC News Undercover School Lunch Investigation (1:05:23–1:07:34)

ABC News correspondent Juju Chang conducted an "undercover" investigation into the quality of American school lunches. The hosts mock the necessity of an undercover approach for a public cafeteria and compare it to Jamie Oliver's previous efforts. The segment is framed as a classic example of sensationalized media coverage of known issues.

Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [juju chang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/juju-chang.md), [school lunches](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-lunches.md), [obesity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obesity.md), undercover reporting

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Rick Perry Gaffes and Flipper Movie Reference (1:07:34–1:09:12)

Texas Governor Rick Perry is criticized for several verbal stumbles during his presidential campaign, including a confusing statement about a "very offensive rock." Perry also compared Mitt Romney's policy shifts to the movie star dolphin "Flipper." The hosts express disdain for Perry's performance on the national stage.

Keywords: [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), flipper, [political gaffes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-gaffes.md), texas governor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/23.md)

### 24. UN Security Council Veto on Syria Resolution (1:09:12–1:12:19)

Russia and China vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution that would have threatened sanctions against the Syrian government. US Ambassador Susan Rice walked out of the assembly in protest, calling the failure to pass the resolution an "urgent moral challenge." The hosts suggest the entire diplomatic event was "theater" with pre-arranged outcomes.

Keywords: [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [susan rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-rice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus and Drone Expansion (1:12:20–1:16:11)

The Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus, co-chaired by Buck McKeon and Henry Cuellar, is working to expand the use of drones in US national airspace. The caucus aims to support the drone industry for defense, law enforcement, and homeland security purposes. A promotional video from the caucus website highlights the strategic value of unmanned systems for border surveillance.

Keywords: [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [uav](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uav.md), congressional caucus, buck mckeon, [henry cuellar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/henry-cuellar.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Next-Gen Aviation Systems and Pilot Error Narratives (1:16:11–1:20:52)

The hosts analyze recent aviation news, including new reports on the Air France crash, as a coordinated effort to discredit human pilots in favor of automated systems. They argue that the "Next-Gen" air traffic control system is designed to integrate drones into civilian airspace. A representative from the UAV industry is heard discussing the "peaceful coexistence" of manned and unmanned aircraft.

Keywords: [air france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md), next-gen, [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), aopa

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/26.md)

### 27. US-Canada Border Trench and Terrorism Fears (1:20:53–1:22:24)

Reports indicate that the US is considering digging a trench along sections of the North Dakota-Canada border where fencing is impractical. The hosts question the actual threat posed by the Canadian border and mock media claims that police are too busy with protesters to monitor terrorists. They predict that Occupy Wall Street camps will eventually be cleared by police in late-night raids.

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [border security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-security.md), [north dakota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-dakota.md), trench, [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Dick Cheney War Crimes Protest in Vancouver (1:22:24–1:24:07)

Protesters in Vancouver, Canada, called for the arrest of former Vice President Dick Cheney under the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act during his book tour. A clip features a protester accusing Cheney of self-confessed torture and responsibility for deaths in the Iraq War. The hosts revisit the "Dick Wars" theme regarding Cheney's public appearances.

Keywords: [dick cheney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-cheney.md), [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md), [torture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/torture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Television Sitcom Trends and X Factor Failure (1:24:08–1:25:38)

The hosts review the current state of network television, criticizing the writing in sitcoms like "Whitney" and the cancellation of "The Playboy Club." They express satisfaction at the declining ratings of "The X Factor," suggesting that audiences are becoming tired of amateur talent competitions. The discussion centers on the lack of quality scripted content.

Keywords: whitney, [x factor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x-factor.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [sitcoms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sitcoms.md), playboy club

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/29.md)

### 30. US Postal Service Privatization and Pension Funding Scam (1:25:39–1:31:23)

The financial crisis at the US Postal Service is characterized as a manufactured scam intended to facilitate privatization. The hosts explain that a 2006 law requiring the USPS to pre-pay 75 years of retiree health benefits is the primary cause of its budget deficit. They compare the situation to the privatization of the Dutch postal service by TNT and warn of significantly higher postage rates.

Keywords: [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), [privatization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privatization.md), [darrell issa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darrell-issa.md), [pensions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pensions.md), [tnt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tnt.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Operation Fast and Furious and Eric Holder Testimony (1:31:24–1:35:24)

Attorney General Eric Holder is under fire for his testimony regarding Operation Fast and Furious, a "gun-walking" program that sent American weapons to Mexican drug cartels. Despite Holder's claims of recent knowledge, memos from 2010 addressed to him regarding the program have surfaced. A reporter describes being "screamed at" by White House and DOJ officials when seeking clarification on the timeline.

Keywords: [fast and furious](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-and-furious.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [gun walking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-walking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Obama Approval Ratings and Michelle Obama Africa Trip (1:35:25–1:38:01)

Political analysts are discussing the possibility of President Obama not seeking re-election as his approval numbers decline. Simultaneously, Michelle Obama is criticized for the costs associated with her trip to Africa, which reportedly included family members listed as "senior officials" on the flight manifest. The hosts compare the travel expenses to those of previous First Ladies.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [approval ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/approval-ratings.md), [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/32.md)

### 33. White House Chief Usher and Target Fashion Promotion (1:38:01–1:40:53)

The White House has appointed Angela Reed, a former manager at the Ritz-Carlton, as the new Chief Usher. In fashion news, Michelle Obama's appearance at Target wearing a Jason Wu dress is analyzed as a coordinated promotion for the designer's upcoming Target collection. The hosts suggest the First Lady is leveraging her position for commercial branding.

Keywords: angela reed, [ritz-carlton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ritz-carlton.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), [target](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/target.md), jason wu

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Chevron Algae Biofuel Commercial on PBS (1:40:54–1:44:22)

A Chevron commercial aired during the PBS NewsHour is noted for its new emphasis on "algae" as a renewable energy source. The hosts recall previous stories about algae-powered vehicles and question the legitimacy of the technology as a large-scale solution. They suggest the ad is a form of corporate propaganda intended to soften the company's image.

Keywords: [chevron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron.md), [algae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algae.md), [biofuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biofuel.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [renewable energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/renewable-energy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Hank Williams Jr. Fired from Monday Night Football (1:44:22–1:46:45)

ESPN fired country singer Hank Williams Jr. after he made an analogy comparing a golf outing between President Obama and John Boehner to a meeting between Hitler and Netanyahu. The hosts discuss the risks of corporate sponsorship and how "slipping up" leads to immediate termination in mainstream media. They contrast this with the independent, listener-supported model of the No Agenda show.

Keywords: hank williams jr., [espn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espn.md), monday night football, hitler analogy, [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Listener Donations and Domain Name Forwarding (1:46:48–1:54:38)

The hosts read a series of donation notes from listeners, including Stan Salisbury and Daniel Hutner. One donor, Joshua Defabaugh, asks for "karma" for his startup, Rockbot, which is meeting with Sequoia Capital. Several new domain names, such as "cullingthehumanherd.com," are being forwarded to the No Agenda website by supporters.

Keywords: [stan salisbury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stan-salisbury.md), [gainesville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gainesville.md), canada thanksgiving, rockbot, [sequoia capital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sequoia-capital.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/36.md)

### 37. No Agenda Karma Success Stories and Wedding Announcement (1:54:38–1:58:05)

A listener reports a "karma success story" after landing a camera job in Southern France following a donation. The show also announces its first "on-air wedding" for Secret Agent Paul, a frequent jingle contributor. The segment includes a brief explanation of the Australian slang term "hornbag" as used in the wedding script.

Keywords: [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), southern france, [secret agent paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-agent-paul.md), [wedding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wedding.md), hornbag

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/37.md)

### 38. No Agenda Knighthood Ceremony for Major Donors (1:58:05–2:00:01)

In a formal ceremony, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak grant knighthoods to Scott Hankel, James Carson, and Beto Echavarrieta for their donations of $1,000 or more. The new knights are welcomed to the "No Agenda Roundtable" with the traditional humorous accolades. The hosts emphasize that these major donors are essential to keeping the program on the air.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [scott hankel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-hankel.md), james carson, beto echavarrieta, [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Gary Nell Appointed as New CEO of NPR (2:00:03–2:01:35)

Gary Nell, the former head of Sesame Workshop, has been named the new CEO of National Public Radio. The hosts highlight Nell's membership in the Council on Foreign Relations and his positions on various corporate boards, including AARP. They characterize the appointment as a move to install a "shill" at the head of the public broadcasting organization.

Keywords: gary nell, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), sesame workshop, [council on foreign relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/council-on-foreign-relations.md), [aarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aarp.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Alzheimer's Transmission Study and Vaccine Compensation in Finland (2:01:36–2:04:58)

A new study suggests that Alzheimer's disease may be transmissible via brain tissue, which the hosts interpret as a potential setup for a new vaccine. Meanwhile, in Finland, the government is providing compensation to victims of the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine who developed narcolepsy. The hosts contrast this with US laws that protect pharmaceutical companies from similar lawsuits.

Keywords: [alzheimer's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alzheimer-s.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [narcolepsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcolepsy.md), [pandemrix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemrix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/40.md)

### 41. HPV Vaccine PR and European Mental Health Statistics (2:04:59–2:07:19)

The UK is reportedly preparing to roll out the HPV vaccine for boys, accompanied by PR campaigns linking oral sex to throat cancer. The hosts view this as a marketing tactic for Gardasil. Additionally, a study claiming that 38.2% of the European Union population suffers from mental health problems is discussed as a precursor to increased pharmaceutical intervention.

Keywords: [hpv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md), [gardasil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gardasil.md), [oral sex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oral-sex.md), [throat cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/throat-cancer.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Donald Rumsfeld Al Jazeera Interview and Fox News Defense (2:07:19–2:08:48)

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had a contentious interview on Al Jazeera regarding his book. Fox News analyst Juliet Huddy defended Rumsfeld, referring to him as a "leader of our country" in the present tense. The hosts mock the deferential treatment of Rumsfeld on Fox News and the lack of critical pushback from Bill O'Reilly during the segment.

Keywords: [donald rumsfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-rumsfeld.md), [al jazeera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-jazeera.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), juliet huddy, [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/42.md)

### 43. New Haitian Prime Minister and Bill Clinton Fund Allegations (2:08:49–2:11:33)

Gary Connille, a former aide to Bill Clinton, has been ratified as the new Prime Minister of Haiti. The hosts question the whereabouts of billions of dollars in earthquake relief funds collected by the Clinton Foundation. They suggest that the money is being used to develop luxury tourism on Haiti's north shore rather than for general reconstruction.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), gary connille, [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), sweet micky martelly, [earthquake relief](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake-relief.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Bill Clinton 65th Birthday Gala and Chelsea Clinton Politics (2:11:33–2:15:39)

A massive fundraising gala for Bill Clinton's 65th birthday is scheduled at the Hollywood Bowl, featuring performers like Lady Gaga and Bono. Ticket packages range from $1,000 to $1 million for "chair" status. The hosts report rumors that the event is a platform to launch Chelsea Clinton's future political career, noting her increased public profile.

Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [chelsea clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-clinton.md), hollywood bowl, [lady gaga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lady-gaga.md), [fundraiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraiser.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/44.md)

### 45. State Department Hiring Social Media Technology Specialists (2:15:44–2:18:16)

The US Department of State is hiring "Social Media and Technology Specialist Instructors" with salaries up to $115,000. The job involves monitoring social media platforms and designing interactive technology courses. The hosts encourage "techno experts" from the audience to apply for the position to gain inside information on government social media strategies.

Keywords: [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), usajobs, gs-13

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/45.md)

### 46. UK Train Body Scanners and TSA Pre-Check Scams (2:18:17–2:21:51)

Full-body scanners are being implemented at train stations in Bath, UK, as part of expanded security measures. In the US, the TSA is launching a "pre-check" program that allows vetted passengers to keep their shoes on, which the hosts describe as a scam to collect more data. They share personal experiences of opting out of scanners at LAX and the varying security protocols at different airports.

Keywords: bath england, [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [pre-check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-check.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/46.md)

### 47. California Vehicle Global Warming Scores (2:21:54–2:24:27)

New vehicles sold in California are now required to display a "Global Warming Score" based on their greenhouse gas emissions. The score is calculated using a complex formula involving CO2, methane, and nitrous oxide levels. The hosts dismiss the metric as "bogus science" and an unnecessary government regulation on consumers.

Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), global warming score, [co2 emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/co2-emissions.md), [greenhouse gases](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greenhouse-gases.md), ab 1493

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Media Nostalgia for the 1980s and Movie Promotions (2:24:27–2:28:40)

A segment on "Good Morning America" celebrating the 1980s and "one-hit wonders" is analyzed as a likely stealth promotion for the remake of the movie "Footloose." Adam Curry reflects on his time at MTV during the 1987 market crash and questions the sudden media push to reframe the 80s as a creative peak. The hosts conclude that most "nostalgia" segments are tied to upcoming product releases.

Keywords: [1980s](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1980s.md), [nostalgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nostalgia.md), footloose, one-hit wonders, [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Classic Drains Jingle and Episode 345 Outro (2:28:41–2:32:50)

The hosts discuss the effectiveness of advertising jingles, highlighting a local plumbing company in the Salinas Valley. They praise the work of jingle writer Jeff Smith and encourage listeners to support the show via the value-for-value model. The episode concludes with a reminder of the upcoming move to Austin and a final sign-off from Southern California and Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [jeff smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-smith.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), classic drains, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [closing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/closing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/345-hornbag/chapter/49.md)

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