# Pounding the Pavement

> A historic credit downgrade and a suspicious helicopter crash in Afghanistan challenge the official narratives of the American financial and military establishments.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 328
- **Published:** 2011-08-07
- **Length:** 2h 29m
- **Topics:** [S&P Downgrade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/s-p-downgrade.md), [SEAL Team 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seal-team-6.md), Al-Qaeda Franchise, [Stochastic Terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stochastic-terrorism.md), ALEC Prisons, Domestic Drones
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement

## About this episode

Standard & Poor’s stripped the United States of its AAA credit rating following a contentious debt ceiling battle, sparking speculation that the downgrade was leaked to trigger a massive market crash. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and former advisor Christina Romer face intense scrutiny as theories emerge regarding a billion-dollar hedge bet designed to force a third round of quantitative easing. The Dodd-Frank Act remains at the center of the friction, with ratings agency executives like Devin Sharma allegedly resisting new federal oversight and employee testing requirements.

Journalist Nicholas Schmidl faces backlash over a New Yorker account of the Osama bin Laden raid after NPR revealed he never interviewed the Navy SEALs involved in the mission. The narrative grows more complex following a CH-47 Chinook helicopter crash in Afghanistan that claimed the lives of several SEAL Team 6 members, leading skeptics like Colonel Jack Jacobs to question the technical discrepancies of the flight. Meanwhile, Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge promotes a new book framing Al-Qaeda as a corporate franchise while defending her reporting on Anwar al-Awlaki’s 2002 visit to the Pentagon.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from the road as the Hot Pockets tour hits the American Midwest, documenting fields of genetically modified corn and windowless factory farms. The duo officially knights producers Patrick Coble and Craig Porter during a Nashville meetup that featured tinfoil hats and original music. The show concludes with a look at the WASP drone’s debut at the Black Hat conference and the rise of the Atrocities Prevention Board.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/transcript.md.

### 1. Gitmo Nation, Episode 328 Introduction (0:00–1:44)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 328 of the No Agenda show on August 7, 2011. Curry reports from the "Crackpot Command Center" in Inverness, Illinois, while Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley. They exchange greetings with the live chatroom audience and prepare for a two-and-a-half-hour broadcast.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), inverness, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/1.md)

### 2. U.S. Debt Ceiling, Standard & Poor's Credit Rating Downgrade (1:44–5:09)

The United States credit rating was downgraded by Standard & Poor's following the raising of the debt ceiling. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner previously dismissed the risk of losing the AAA rating, calling it unassailable. Former economic advisor Christina Romer is criticized for her academic background and recent media appearances regarding the stimulus.

Keywords: [standard & poor's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/standard-poor-s.md), aaa credit rating, [timothy geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-geithner.md), [debt ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [christina romer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christina-romer.md), [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Market Crash Leaks, Quantitative Easing Speculation (5:09–8:07)

Speculation arises that the S&P downgrade was leaked prior to the Friday market close, potentially explaining the Thursday market crash. Theories regarding the downgrade include a billion-dollar hedge bet, a setup for a third round of quantitative easing (QE3), or a political maneuver to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire.

Keywords: [qe3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qe3.md), [quantitative easing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantitative-easing.md), [market crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-crash.md), [bush tax cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bush-tax-cuts.md), [hedge funds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hedge-funds.md), [insider trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insider-trading.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Dodd-Frank Act, Ratings Agency Regulation Conflict (8:07–11:35)

Standard & Poor's president Devin Sharma reportedly authored an op-ed criticizing government regulation of ratings agencies. The Dodd-Frank Act contains provisions that would allow the government to regulate and test employees of these agencies. Ratings firms like Moody's and Fitch are reportedly resistant to these new federal oversight requirements.

Keywords: [dodd-frank act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dodd-frank-act.md), devin sharma, [standard & poor's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/standard-poor-s.md), [mcgraw-hill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcgraw-hill.md), [moody's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moody-s.md), [fitch ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fitch-ratings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/4.md)

### 5. S&P Downgrade Politics, Ron Paul Reaction (11:35–15:37)

Political theories regarding the S&P downgrade include alleged ties between Terry McGraw III and Mitt Romney. Congressman Ron Paul expressed disappointment that the downgrade was linked to a lack of tax increases rather than a failure to control spending. The hosts suggest the downgrade may be a retaliatory move by S&P against the Obama administration's regulatory agenda.

Keywords: devin sharma, [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [mitt romney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitt-romney.md), [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md), terry mcgraw, tax increases

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Nicholas Schmidl, Bin Laden Raid Narrative Skepticism (15:38–18:13)

Journalist Nicholas Schmidl's New Yorker article about the Osama bin Laden raid is scrutinized for its cinematic tone and factual accuracy. NPR issued a clarification noting that Schmidl never actually spoke to any Navy SEALs involved in the mission. Schmidl's father is revealed to be Lieutenant General Robert E. Schmidl Jr. of the U.S. Cyber Command.

Keywords: [nicholas schmidl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicholas-schmidl.md), [navy seals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy-seals.md), [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [new yorker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-yorker.md), robert e. schmidl jr., [cyber command](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-command.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Chinook Helicopter Crash, Navy SEAL Team 6 Casualties (18:14–20:20)

A CH-47 Chinook helicopter was reportedly shot down in Afghanistan, killing members of Navy SEAL Team 6. The timing of the crash is questioned in relation to the bin Laden raid narrative and an upcoming Hollywood film by the creators of The Hurt Locker. Skeptics suggest the event could be a "two to the head" scenario to eliminate witnesses.

Keywords: ch-47 chinook, navy seal team 6, [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [the hurt locker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-hurt-locker.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Jack Jacobs, Helicopter Crash Technical Discrepancies (20:21–24:54)

Colonel Jack Jacobs discusses the technical aspects of the Chinook crash on news media, claiming the aircraft is easy to shoot down with small arms or RPGs. Discrepancies emerge regarding whether the helicopter clipped a wall or suffered a mechanical failure. The use of a large Chinook for a special operations mission is questioned compared to the stealth Blackhawks used in the Abbottabad raid.

Keywords: jack jacobs, ch-47 chinook, [vortex ring state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vortex-ring-state.md), [rpg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rpg.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [special operations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/special-operations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Bin Laden Raid, Witness Elimination Theory (24:54–26:31)

A discussion explores the possibility that the helicopter crash in Afghanistan was a deliberate act to silence members of Seal Team 6. The theory posits that the official bin Laden raid narrative required the removal of individuals who could contradict the government's story.

Keywords: [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [navy seals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navy-seals.md), [conspiracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy.md), [psyop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psyop.md), witness silencing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Catherine Herridge, The Next Wave Book Launch (26:32–30:46)

Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge appeared on C-SPAN to promote her book, The Next Wave, which focuses on American recruits for Al-Qaeda. Herridge is identified as the reporter who broke the story of Anwar al-Awlaki attending a luncheon at the Pentagon in 2002. The hosts characterize her reporting as a psychological operation to promote the "homegrown lone wolf" terror threat.

Keywords: [catherine herridge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catherine-herridge.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [anwar al-awlaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anwar-al-awlaki.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [homegrown terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homegrown-terrorism.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Anwar al-Awlaki, Pentagon Luncheon Controversy (30:47–34:00)

Catherine Herridge defends her reporting on Anwar al-Awlaki's 2002 Pentagon visit, noting he was vetted as a "moderate Muslim" despite FBI interest in his contacts with 9/11 hijackers. A caller on C-SPAN refers to al-Awlaki as an "Emanuel Goldstein" character, a reference to George Orwell's 1984. Herridge describes al-Awlaki's return to the Pentagon as a "thief returning to the scene of a crime."

Keywords: [anwar al-awlaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anwar-al-awlaki.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [flight 77](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-77.md), emanuel goldstein, [1984](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1984.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Emanuel Goldstein, 1984 Literary Reference (34:00–35:50)

The hosts clarify the identity of Emanuel Goldstein, noting he is the fictional "enemy of the people" in George Orwell's 1984. They also mention the real-world Emanuel Goldstein, the pseudonym of Eric Corley, who publishes the hacker journal 2600.

Keywords: emanuel goldstein, [george orwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-orwell.md), [1984](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1984.md), 2600 magazine, eric corley

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Al-Qaeda Franchise, Fortune 500 Comparison (35:50–39:06)

Catherine Herridge compares Al-Qaeda's structure to a Fortune 500 company that has transitioned into a franchise model similar to McDonald's. She warns of "super cells" and sleeper cells that may launch attacks to mark the 10th anniversary of 9/11. The hosts mock the corporate terminology used to describe terrorist organizations.

Keywords: [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), [somalia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/somalia.md), fortune 500, [mcdonald's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonald-s.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Homegrown Terrorism, FBI Sting Operations (39:06–43:03)

Catherine Herridge cites the Times Square bomber and the Fort Hood shooting as evidence of a rising homegrown terror threat. She describes Anwar al-Awlaki as the "Dear Abby of the jihadist world" for his role in motivating American citizens. The hosts argue that many of these cases are the result of FBI sting operations targeting individuals with limited capabilities.

Keywords: [faisal shahzad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faisal-shahzad.md), [times square bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/times-square-bomber.md), fbi stings, [nidal hasan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nidal-hasan.md), [fort hood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-hood.md), [anwar al-awlaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anwar-al-awlaki.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Al-Qaeda Tapes, Forensic Audio Reverb Claims (43:04–46:43)

Catherine Herridge claims Al-Qaeda operatives tried to sell a tape to Fox News for $30,000 and that messages are often hidden on pornographic file-sharing sites. She asserts that forensic analysts found "reverb" added to an al-Awlaki tape to make it sound as if he were speaking in a large mosque rather than a closet.

Keywords: [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), forensic audio, reverb, [file sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/file-sharing.md), [pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pornography.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Willow Bay, Media Career and Disney Connection (46:43–49:03)

The hosts discuss the career of former CNN anchor Willow Bay, noting her marriage to Disney CEO Robert Iger. They compare her media presence to Catherine Herridge and discuss her current role as a senior editor at the Huffington Post.

Keywords: willow bay, robert iger, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), huffpost, [lou dobbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lou-dobbs.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Knighting Ceremony, Patrick Coble Donation (49:04–52:53)

Adam Curry recounts the knighting of Patrick Coble at a bar in Nashville during the Hot Pockets 2008 tour. Coble, a Marine veteran and IT professional, donated $1,000 and provided decals for the tour vehicle. He reportedly discovered the podcast while working at a three-letter government agency.

Keywords: [patrick coble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-coble.md), [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [ducati](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ducati.md), chemtrails.me, [hot pockets tour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-pockets-tour.md), [knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knight.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Producer Donations, Karma Requests (52:54–55:00)

Craig Porter of Chesapeake, Virginia, is recognized for his donation to complete his knighthood and requests karma for his former shipmates on the USS Philadelphia. Joseph Frost of Wooddale, Illinois, joins the 328 club and requests karma for himself and a co-worker to find better employment.

Keywords: [craig porter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/craig-porter.md), [joseph frost](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joseph-frost.md), uss philadelphia, palatine, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Content Theft, No Agenda PR Strategy (55:02–57:36)

A producer named James reports that his website content was stolen by a Chinese entity and hosted on Google Blogspot. In retaliation, he replaced his server's images with No Agenda show art, effectively turning the stolen sites into advertisements for the podcast. New domain redirects like alqaedaipo.com are also mentioned.

Keywords: [james](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james.md), [vajazzling.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vajazzling-com.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), content theft, alqaedaipo.com

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Urban Dictionary, Adios Mofo Entry (57:37–59:50)

The phrase "Adios Mofo" has been added to the Urban Dictionary, credited to Texas Governor Rick Perry and popularized by the No Agenda podcast. The hosts also note that the term "Embiggen" from Dvorak's blog is featured on the site.

Keywords: [urban dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-dictionary.md), [adios mofo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofo.md), [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), embiggen, [dvorak uncensored](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-uncensored.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Hot Pockets Tour, Nashville Meetup Recap (59:50–1:03:27)

Adam Curry describes the Nashville meetup at The Big Bang Bar, featuring a performance by Sir Jeff Smith. Attendees from Memphis and Paducah participated, with some wearing elaborate tinfoil hats. Smith debuted a new song titled "Living the American Dream" during the event.

Keywords: [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [jeff smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-smith.md), [lone squirrel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-squirrel.md), tinfoil hats, paducah, [kentucky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kentucky.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Illinois Road Trip, GM Corn and Factory Farming (1:03:27–1:06:26)

The tour moves from Tennessee through Kentucky to Illinois, where Adam Curry observes vast fields of genetically modified corn and windowless chicken coops. He compares the signage for agricultural products to winery advertisements. The segment concludes with their arrival at the home of producers Chuck and Dana in Inverness.

Keywords: [kentucky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kentucky.md), [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), gm corn, [food inc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-inc.md), [factory farming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/factory-farming.md), inverness

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Cleveland and Boston, Tour Schedule Update (1:06:26–1:09:38)

The Hot Pockets tour schedule includes upcoming stops in Cleveland, Boston, New York, and Washington D.C. Curry reflects on the emotional impact of meeting "awake" producers across the country. Dvorak considers attending the tour's wrap party.

Keywords: [cleveland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cleveland.md), [rock and roll hall of fame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.md), [boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dc.md), [lone wolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lone-wolf.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/23.md)

### 24. FAA Reauthorization, Rural Airport Subsidies (1:09:39–1:11:21)

Congress passed a temporary extension of the FAA reauthorization bill, delaying further debate until September 17. The bill includes a provision to cut subsidies to 13 rural airports, though Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has the authority to issue waivers to keep them operational.

Keywords: faa reauthorization, [ray lahood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-lahood.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), rural airports, [subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subsidies.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/24.md)

### 25. California Law, Annoying a Minor Conviction (1:12:28–1:14:01)

In Las Gatos, California, Sarah Cole was found not guilty of felony unlawful sex with a minor but was convicted of a misdemeanor for "annoying or molesting a minor." This conviction requires her to register as a sex offender for life, leading the hosts to criticize the broad application of sex offender laws.

Keywords: sarah cole, las gatos, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [sex offender registry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sex-offender-registry.md), [misdemeanor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misdemeanor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Stochastic Terrorism, Thom Hartmann Commentary (1:14:02–1:16:27)

Progressive host Thom Hartmann uses the term "stochastic terrorist" to describe Frank Gaffney's rhetoric regarding the Muslim Brotherhood and Anders Breivik. The hosts define stochastic as referring to non-deterministic systems and dismiss the term as intellectual-sounding "bullcrap."

Keywords: [thom hartmann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thom-hartmann.md), [stochastic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stochastic-terrorism.md), [muslim brotherhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muslim-brotherhood.md), [frank gaffney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frank-gaffney.md), [anders breivik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anders-breivik.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Ruger LC9, Gun of the Year Award (1:16:28–1:18:15)

Ruger received the "Gun of the Year" award for the LC9 pocket pistol shortly after the model was reportedly used in the Oslo shootings by Anders Breivik. CEO Mike Pfeiffer credited the company's "Voice of the Customer" program for the design's success.

Keywords: ruger lc9, gun of the year, [anders breivik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anders-breivik.md), mike pfeiffer, [handgun](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/handgun.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/27.md)

### 28. London Riots, Tottenham Unrest (1:18:16–1:19:57)

Riots broke out in Tottenham, London, following the police shooting of a 29-year-old man. The unrest involved arson and Molotov cocktails, which the hosts predict will eventually be blamed on economic austerity measures. They also discuss the media's negative portrayal of the American Tea Party movement.

Keywords: [london riots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london-riots.md), tottenham, mark duggan, [austerity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austerity.md), [tea party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tea-party.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/28.md)

### 29. No Excuses University, School Consultant Programs (1:20:00–1:24:06)

No Excuses University is a program that sends consultants into elementary schools to promote college attendance to third graders. The program uses PowerPoint presentations to associate college with luxury cars and manual labor with poverty. Critics describe the chanting and "code of conduct" as cult-like and manipulative.

Keywords: no excuses university, damon lopez, [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), college grants, [third grade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/third-grade.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Character Education, Rethinking Letters in Schools (1:24:09–1:26:32)

Schools are implementing "character education" based on the book Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Students are taught concepts like "synergy" and "win-win" and are required to write "rethinking letters" instead of serving traditional detention for "character violations."

Keywords: character education, seven habits of highly effective people, synergy, rethinking letters, [detention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detention.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Brainwashing Techniques, Turnaround Schools (1:26:33–1:29:31)

The "turnaround schools" movement and Damon Lopez's methods are compared to 1970s sensitivity training like EST and certain Scientology practices. The hosts discuss the potential for these programs to "dumb down" American children through psychological manipulation in the classroom.

Keywords: damon lopez, [est](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/est.md), [scientology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scientology.md), [brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md), [textbooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/textbooks.md), dumbing down of america

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Chevy Volt Sales, Rahm Emanuel Birthday Party (1:29:32–1:31:39)

General Motors reported selling only 125 Chevy Volts in July, despite heavy promotion of the vehicle as a success for the auto industry bailout. Meanwhile, Rahm Emanuel hosted a high-priced birthday fundraiser for President Obama in Chicago. Monsanto also announced plans to sell GE sweet corn for human consumption.

Keywords: [chevy volt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevy-volt.md), [general motors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-motors.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), sweet corn

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Firefly Grill, Effingham Illinois Dining (1:31:40–1:33:23)

During their travels, the tour stopped in Effingham, Illinois, known as the "crossroads of opportunity." Based on a producer's tip, they visited the Firefly Grill, a farm-to-table restaurant featuring grass-fed beef and local produce, which they recommend as a hidden gem in a major truck stop area.

Keywords: effingham, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), firefly grill, truck stop, [grass-fed beef](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grass-fed-beef.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Syria Sanctions, Hillary Clinton and John Baird (1:33:24–1:35:57)

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird discussed potential "strong actions" against the Syrian regime. Baird expressed regret that there is no UN resolution similar to 1973 (used in Libya) to authorize military intervention in Syria, citing a lack of international support.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), john baird, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [resolution 1973](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resolution-1973.md), [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/34.md)

### 35. PBS Qigong, Harry Reid NPR Support (1:35:58–1:38:18)

PBS is criticized for promoting "mystical" programming like Lee Holden's Qigong specials during pledge drives. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is featured in a clip expressing his strong support for NPR and public media.

Keywords: [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), qigong, lee holden, [harry reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-reid.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [public media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Producer Donations, USS Philadelphia Karma (1:38:18–1:41:17)

Mark Fusco of San Antonio donates $133.70 and requests karma for his mother battling cancer. John Johnson Jr. reports a dream about the tour vehicle, and Adam Duke of the Isle of Man donates on his 30th birthday. A karma request is also granted for a new tugboat named Paver.

Keywords: mark fusco, john johnson jr., adam duke, isle of man, tugboat, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Bungee Cord Accident, Amsterdam Producer Update (1:41:18–1:44:00)

A producer in Amsterdam known as "No Agenda Groupie" reports a serious eye injury caused by a snapping bungee cord (Snellbinder) on her bicycle. She donated $65 to reflect her current 65% vision recovery and shared updates on her living situation and temporary hospital job.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), bungee cord, eye injury, snellbinder, temp job

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/37.md)

### 38. No Agenda Coins, Episode 333 Commemoration (1:44:00–1:45:31)

New commemorative coins are being minted for the upcoming Episode 333. The coins, produced by "Eric the shill," feature Latin inscriptions and are sold through NoAgendaNation.com as collectibles for the show's audience.

Keywords: [no agenda coins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-coins.md), [eric the shill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-the-shill.md), episode 333, [collectibles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collectibles.md), [noagendanation.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noagendanation-com.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Nashville Meetup, Diversity and Stuttering Anecdote (1:45:31–1:47:34)

Adam Curry shares a humorous anecdote from the Nashville meetup involving a photo with a black listener and a person with a stutter. He describes the group as a "perfect mix" of degenerates and directs listeners to the show's Facebook page for photos.

Keywords: [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [diversity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diversity.md), [stuttering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stuttering.md), [tourette's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Knighting of Craig Porter and Patrick Coble (1:47:35–1:49:33)

Adam Curry and John Dvorak officially knight Craig Porter and Patrick Coble for their $1,000 donations. The ceremony includes the traditional "hookers and blow" or "rentboys and Chardonnay" jokes. Birthday wishes are also extended to Sir Bill Arcand and Larry in Waterbury.

Keywords: [craig porter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/craig-porter.md), [patrick coble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-coble.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/40.md)

### 41. ALEC, Private Prisons and Inmate Labor (1:49:34–1:53:33)

The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is identified as a primary driver behind the privatization of U.S. prisons and tougher sentencing laws. Inmates are reportedly paid as little as 20 cents an hour to produce goods ranging from office chairs to electronic components for guided missiles. The hosts compare this system to the "slave labor" the U.S. criticizes in China.

Keywords: [alec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alec.md), american legislative exchange council, [private prisons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-prisons.md), [scott walker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-walker.md), [prison labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison-labor.md), guided missiles

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Doodlebug's Children's Propaganda, USPS Promotion (1:53:34–1:57:02)

The children's program Doodlebug's is analyzed for its pro-government and pro-postal service messaging. The show encourages children to "open their minds" and put themselves in others' shoes, which the hosts interpret as a push for multi-culturalism and support for the struggling U.S. Postal Service.

Keywords: doodlebugs, [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), multi-culturalism, [postal service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/postal-service.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Cartoon Propaganda History, Bigfoot Segment (1:57:03–1:58:28)

The hosts reflect on the history of propaganda in cartoons, noting that while Disney produced anti-Hitler films during WWII, modern children's programming is more subtly ideological. A brief clip about Bigfoot is played to mock the quality of current educational television.

Keywords: [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), speed racer, bigfoot

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Rick Perry, The Response Prayer Rally (1:58:30–2:02:37)

Texas Governor Rick Perry hosted a massive prayer rally in Houston called "The Response." The New York Times is criticized for using a photo of participants with their hands raised in a way that resembles a Nazi salute. The hosts discuss Perry's potential presidential run and his reputation for corruption in Austin.

Keywords: [rick perry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-perry.md), the response, [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md), prayer rally, heil hitler, [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Polar Bear Attack, Climate Change Irony (2:02:38–2:06:00)

A group of students on a climate change research trip in the Arctic Circle was attacked by a polar bear, resulting in one death. The hosts note the irony of the event, given the common narrative that polar bears are dying out due to global warming. They also mention Al Gore's recent "Climate of Denial" article in Rolling Stone.

Keywords: [polar bear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polar-bear.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [arctic circle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arctic-circle.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [rolling stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolling-stone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Presidential Study Directive, Mass Atrocities Prevention (2:06:00–2:08:13)

President Obama issued a Presidential Study Directive on Mass Atrocities, establishing an interagency Atrocities Prevention Board. The directive aims to institutionalize the government's response to potential genocides. The hosts argue this provides a legal framework for the U.S. to intervene in foreign conflicts without traditional war powers.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), presidential study directive, mass atrocities, [genocide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genocide.md), [national security council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security-council.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Atrocities Prevention Board, Foreign Policy Shift (2:08:14–2:11:45)

The new Atrocities Prevention Board is described as a mechanism to coordinate a "whole-of-government" approach to preventing mass killings. The hosts suggest this is a tool for the "security apparatus" to justify military actions against "brown people" by using the Holocaust and Rwanda as rhetorical justifications.

Keywords: atrocities prevention board, [holocaust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holocaust.md), [rwanda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rwanda.md), [arab spring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arab-spring.md), [false flags](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/false-flags.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Obama Jobs Speech, Made in America Theme (2:11:46–2:14:40)

President Obama's recent speeches focus on tax credits for hiring veterans and cutting red tape for entrepreneurs. He emphasizes a "Made in America" theme for exports to Asia and South America. The hosts mock his 2009 promise to be held accountable for the economy within three years.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs.md), [veterans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans.md), [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [trade deals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-deals.md), [made in america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/made-in-america.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Honor Killing Trial, Cultural Training Controversy (2:14:42–2:17:43)

An Iraqi man in Arizona was found guilty of manslaughter for running over his daughter in an "honor killing." Chilling audio is played of the man's wife, who was reportedly hired by the U.S. government to teach troops about Muslim culture, expressing that her daughter deserved the attack for being "dirty."

Keywords: honor killing, [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [manslaughter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manslaughter.md), muslim culture, cultural training

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/49.md)

### 50. WASP Drone, Black Hat Conference PR (2:17:44–2:21:47)

At the Black Hat conference, researchers demonstrated the WASP (Wireless Aerial Surveillance Platform), a DIY drone capable of intercepting cell phone signals. The lead researcher, Michael Tassi, is revealed to be a cybersecurity director for a major government contractor. The hosts argue the story is a PR campaign to normalize domestic drone use.

Keywords: wasp drone, [black hat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-hat.md), michael tassi, [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [wired](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wired.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Domestic Drones, The Daily Drone App (2:21:49–2:24:47)

Drones are already being used domestically, such as News Corp's "The Daily" using them to film flood damage in North Dakota. The FAA is reportedly investigating whether this violates regulations. The hosts suggest the government is preparing the public for "drone nation" through media exposure.

Keywords: [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [north dakota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-dakota.md), [the daily](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-daily.md), [news corp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/news-corp.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [domestic surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-surveillance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Corporate Profits, Goldman Sachs Recession Odds (2:25:40–2:27:28)

MasterCard reported a 33% profit jump, while Goldman Sachs analysts placed the likelihood of a recession at 33%. In entertainment news, Justin Bieber's film reportedly contributed to a 33% profit increase for Paramount Home Entertainment.

Keywords: [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [mastercard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastercard.md), [justin bieber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-bieber.md), [paramount](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paramount.md), [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Outro, Cleveland Tour Stop, Sign-off (2:27:29–2:29:30)

The show concludes with Adam Curry preparing to travel to Cleveland, Ohio, for the next leg of the tour. He mentions a planned shooting excursion with a weapons expert. The hosts sign off with their traditional "Adios Mofo" and "In the Morning" greetings.

Keywords: [cleveland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cleveland.md), [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), [glock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glock.md), [adios mofo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofo.md), [dvorak.org/na](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-org-na.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/328-pounding-the-pavement/chapter/53.md)

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