# Don't Ask, Don't Yell > Media outlets misread the fine print on military policy while the Department of Homeland Security coordinates a new domestic fear campaign through major news networks. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 263 - **Published:** 2010-12-23 - **Length:** 2h 29m - **Topics:** DADT Repeal, [Homegrown Terror](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homegrown-terror.md), [GEO Group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geo-group.md), [START Treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/start-treaty.md), RFID Currency, [WikiLeaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), Hal Turner - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell ## About this episode President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden face accusations of misrepresenting the Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010. While media outlets like MSNBC and ABC News framed the signing ceremony as the immediate end of the policy, the legislative text actually requires written certification of military readiness from the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff before any changes take effect. Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary Janet Napolitano are currently coordinating a homegrown terror narrative through interviews with Diane Sawyer, specifically highlighting cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. Meanwhile, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appeared unaware of major terror arrests in London during a televised appearance, raising questions about leadership competence. In the private sector, the GEO Group has acquired BI Incorporated for $415 million, signaling a massive expansion of electronic monitoring and home-based detention systems within the private prison industry. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the week's media memes, from Oprah Winfrey's audience giveaways to the bizarre rumors of Julian Assange performing as a drag queen. The duo also performs a formal knighthood ceremony for donors Alan Bowes and Greg Stone, inducting them into the No Agenda Round Table as the show prepares for the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/transcript.md. ### 1. Introduction, Gays in the Military, and Free Speech TV (0:00–1:26) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program on December 23, 2010, from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. They briefly touch upon media coverage of "gays in the military" and mention Free Speech TV's practice of outing individuals. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [free speech tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech-tv.md), gays in the military, [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 Analysis (1:26–10:11) A detailed deconstruction of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 reveals that the bill does not immediately repeal the policy. President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are accused of misrepresenting the legislation, which actually requires written certification from the President, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff regarding military readiness before any changes take effect. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [don't ask don't tell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-t-ask-don-t-tell.md), s4023, [military readiness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-readiness.md), [certification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/certification.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Rachel Maddow and MSNBC Coverage of Military Policy (10:12–11:44) MSNBC host Rachel Maddow is criticized for her reporting on the signing of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal. The summary asserts that Maddow and her production team failed to read the actual text of the bill, leading to inaccurate claims that the policy was officially ended on the day of the signing ceremony. Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [don't ask don't tell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-t-ask-don-t-tell.md), [media criticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-criticism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/3.md) ### 4. ABC News and Media Misrepresentation of Legislative Repeal (11:44–19:03) ABC News and other media outlets are accused of using slanted language and emotional narratives to frame the military policy change as a completed victory. Retired Navy Commander Zoe Dunning is highlighted as a participant in the signing ceremony who, according to the analysis, was misled by the President regarding the immediate legal effect of the bill. Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), zoe dunning, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), mark matthews, naval commander, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Executive Producer Credits, 11-11 Club, and Ham Radio (19:03–29:44) The hosts acknowledge significant financial support from the "No Agenda" community, including the founding of the 11-11 Club by Baron Von Pelzmakers. They also promote "Ham in the Morning," a resource for listeners interested in obtaining FCC technician licenses for amateur radio operation. Keywords: baron von pelzmakers, greg bircher, [gordon walton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gordon-walton.md), ham in the morning, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Homegrown Terror Narrative and ABC News Interviews (29:44–34:46) The Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security are identified as pushing a coordinated "homegrown terror" narrative through ABC News. Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary Janet Napolitano use interviews with Diane Sawyer to emphasize the threat of domestic radicalization, specifically citing cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a primary concern. Keywords: [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [janet napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-napolitano.md), [james clapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-clapper.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [diane sawyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diane-sawyer.md), [anwar al-awlaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anwar-al-awlaki.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Pierre Thomas and ABC News Terror Warning Deconstruction (34:49–46:01) An ABC News article by Pierre Thomas and Jack Cloherty is analyzed for its use of "chilling" details and urgent language to predispose the audience to fear. The discussion questions the validity of the "alarming rise" in domestic terrorism and suggests the FBI plays a role in radicalizing the individuals it later arrests. Keywords: [pierre thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pierre-thomas.md), [eric holder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-holder.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [homegrown terror](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homegrown-terror.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Janet Napolitano and the Holiday Terror Chatter Meme (46:01–52:52) Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano discusses "chatter" regarding potential holiday attacks during an ABC News segment. The analysis critiques her logic regarding the prevention of the Christmas Day and Times Square bombing attempts, arguing that public intervention rather than government skill was the deciding factor. Keywords: [janet napolitano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-napolitano.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [diane sawyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diane-sawyer.md), terror chatter, christmas day bomber, [times square bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/times-square-bomber.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/8.md) ### 9. James Clapper and the London Terror Arrest Gaffe (52:52–1:00:43) Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appears unaware of major terror arrests in London during a televised interview with Diane Sawyer. Despite a later statement from his office describing his knowledge as "profound and multi-dimensional," the incident is cited as evidence of incompetence within the national intelligence leadership. Keywords: [james clapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-clapper.md), [diane sawyer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diane-sawyer.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [intelligence sharing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence-sharing.md), [homeland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Listener Donations, Birthdays, and De-douching Ceremony (1:00:44–1:17:51) A lengthy segment dedicated to listener correspondence and donations includes birthday shout-outs and "de-douching" rituals for supporters. Notable mentions include an 82-year-old golfer, a donor from Norway with a phonetically challenging name, and various international contributors from Australia and the Netherlands. Keywords: david lee, chris perry, [jason fenwick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-fenwick.md), floris fiedel-de-dop, gayer hellge, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Knighting Ceremony for Sir Alan Bowes and Greg Stone (1:17:51–1:21:38) The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for high-level donors Alan Bowes and Greg Stone, inducting them into the No Agenda Round Table. Steven Van Pelsmakers is also recognized with an "Uber Super Baron" title for his significant contribution to the program. Keywords: [alan bowes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alan-bowes.md), [greg stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-stone.md), steven van pelsmakers, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Belarus Election Unrest and Russian Influence (1:21:40–1:23:51) Reports from Belarus indicate widespread civil unrest and police crackdowns following a disputed election where Alexander Lukashenko claimed 80% of the vote. The situation is framed within the context of Russian geopolitical influence in the region between Poland and Russia. Keywords: [belarus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belarus.md), [alexander lukashenko](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexander-lukashenko.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [election fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-fraud.md), riot police [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/12.md) ### 13. START Treaty and Space Launch Facilities (1:23:52–1:28:49) An examination of the START Treaty suggests the agreement functions more as an arms trade and price-fixing pact than a disarmament treaty. Specific language regarding "space launch facilities" for ICBMs sparks a theory about the existence of weaponized satellites or lunar bases. Keywords: [start treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/start-treaty.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [icbm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icbm.md), space launch facilities, [moon base](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-base.md), [arms trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-trade.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Bobby Rush and House Energy Commerce Hearing (1:28:49–1:32:58) Congressman Bobby Rush is highlighted for his repetitive and confusing performance during a House Energy and Commerce hearing aired on C-SPAN. The hosts note that Rush is the only politician to have defeated Barack Obama in an election, despite his perceived lack of coherence during legislative proceedings. Keywords: bobby rush, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), opening statements, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/14.md) ### 15. RFID Currency, IPv6, and the Cashless Society Theory (1:32:58–1:40:56) A complex theory links the reported presence of RFID circuitry in U.S. currency with the government's push for IPv6 and net neutrality. The hypothesis suggests that every physical bill could eventually be assigned a unique IP address, allowing the government to remotely track or deactivate individual bank notes. Keywords: [rfid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfid.md), [ipv6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipv6.md), [vivek kundra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vivek-kundra.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [cashless society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless-society.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Merck Gardasil Vaccine and Adult Immunization Push (1:40:56–1:46:49) Pharmaceutical company Merck is criticized for expanding the approved uses of the Gardasil vaccine to include anal cancer and treatments for boys. The segment also deconstructs a promotional piece for adult vaccinations, including shots for shingles and hepatitis, characterizing the push as a financial boondoggle for drug manufacturers. Keywords: [merck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merck.md), [gardasil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gardasil.md), [hpv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv.md), [shingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shingles.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), anal cancer [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Climate Research Unit and the Disappearance of Snow (1:46:51–1:49:38) A 2000 article from The Independent featuring scientists from the Climatic Research Unit is revisited, which predicted that snow would become a "thing of the past" for British children. The hosts contrast this prediction with the record-breaking snowfalls and transport shutdowns currently affecting Europe in 2010. Keywords: [university of east anglia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-east-anglia.md), david parker, [snow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snow.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [britain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/britain.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Randy Quaid, Heath Ledger, and Nightline (1:49:39–1:51:25) The hosts discuss an ABC Nightline interview with Heath Ledger's ex-wife, Michelle Williams, noting the media's refusal to address Randy Quaid's "starwhacker" conspiracy theories. The segment is characterized as a promotional piece for a movie rather than a substantive journalistic inquiry. Keywords: [randy quaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/randy-quaid.md), [heath ledger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heath-ledger.md), [michelle williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-williams.md), [nightline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nightline.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), starwhackers [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/18.md) ### 19. No Labels Organization and Mark McKinnon (1:51:25–2:02:42) The "No Labels" political organization is deconstructed as a partisan front for Democrats and establishment figures. Founders Nancy Jacobson and Mark McKinnon are scrutinized for their ties to the Clinton administration and the Council on Foreign Relations, while the group's 501(c)(4) status is described as a lobbying scam. Keywords: [no labels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-labels.md), nancy jacobson, mark mckinnon, james tish, [cfr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cfr.md), [501c4](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/501c4.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/19.md) ### 20. WikiLeaks Predictions and Julian Assange Drag Queen Rumors (2:02:42–2:07:27) The hosts discuss the CIA's "WikiLeaks Task Force" and predict future leaks regarding the Clinton Foundation. They also reference a tabloid report from Australia claiming Julian Assange previously performed as a drag queen, viewing it as a character assassination attempt by intelligence agencies. Keywords: [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), john young [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Chromium 6 and Environmental Working Group Report (2:07:27–2:09:00) A report by the Environmental Working Group regarding Chromium 6 contamination in U.S. tap water is analyzed for its potential legal and commercial motives. The hosts suggest the "Erin Brockovich chemical" narrative may be used to facilitate class-action lawsuits or promote specific water filtration products. Keywords: chromium 6, [erin brockovich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-brockovich.md), [environmental working group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environmental-working-group.md), [tap water](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tap-water.md), [class action](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/class-action.md), water filters [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/21.md) ### 22. GEO Group Acquisition of BI Incorporated (2:09:01–2:11:53) The GEO Group, a major operator of correctional facilities, acquired BI Incorporated for $415 million. BI Incorporated is known for manufacturing electronic monitoring bracelets and remote alcohol detection systems, signaling an expansion of the private prison industry into home-based detention. Keywords: [geo group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geo-group.md), [bi incorporated](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bi-incorporated.md), [electronic monitoring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-monitoring.md), [private prisons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-prisons.md), [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Bank of America Reward for Found Cash (2:11:53–2:13:17) Four children in the San Francisco Bay Area found $40,000 in cash belonging to Bank of America and turned it over to the authorities. The bank's decision to reward the group with only $200 is criticized as a deterrent to future honesty. Keywords: [bank of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-america.md), [santa clara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-clara.md), finders fee, [cash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash.md), [reward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reward.md), [sheriff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheriff.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Netherlands Bank Run Legislation (2:13:17–2:15:07) New legislation in the Netherlands reportedly makes it illegal to incite a bank run. Individuals who publicly encourage others to withdraw their funds from financial institutions could face up to four years in prison and significant fines under the new law. Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [bank run](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-run.md), financial law, [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [euro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euro.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Radioactive Isotope Detection in New York City (2:15:07–2:17:07) A segment on the Rachel Maddow Show claimed that security vehicles in New York City are powerful enough to detect a single person who has ingested a medical radioisotope on a passing cruise ship. The hosts dismiss the claim as fear-mongering "bullcrap" designed to intimidate the public. Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), radioactive isotopes, [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [cruise ships](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cruise-ships.md), [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/25.md) ### 26. TSA Budget and Screener Pay Narrative (2:17:07–2:18:39) The hosts identify a media meme suggesting that TSA screeners are underpaid and overworked. They argue this narrative is being used to justify a massive budget increase for the Department of Homeland Security and to eventually provide TSA agents with badges and firearms. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [mike huckabee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-huckabee.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), [brown shirts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brown-shirts.md), [budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Oprah Winfrey's Ultimate Favorite Things Giveaways (2:18:40–2:22:22) Oprah Winfrey's lavish audience giveaways, including 3D televisions and cars, are characterized as a "cult-like" display of power over "slaves." The hosts also note her giveaway of trips to the Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert "Rally to Restore Sanity," which they refer to as a "rally for douchebags." Keywords: [oprah winfrey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oprah-winfrey.md), ultimate favorite things, volkswagen beetle, colbert, stewart, slave driver [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Hal Turner Sentencing and EU Internet Censorship (2:22:23–2:24:48) Internet shock jock Hal Turner was sentenced to 33 months in prison for threatening federal judges. The discussion links this case to broader efforts in the European Union to implement internet censorship laws under the guise of countering illegal content and terrorism. Keywords: hal turner, [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), internet shock jock, [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/263-don-t-ask-don-t-yell/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Outro, CES Plans, and Las Vegas Meetup (2:24:49–2:29:29) The hosts conclude the episode by discussing their holiday plans and the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas. John C. Dvorak expresses interest in a Las Vegas meetup, leading to a brief disagreement with Adam Curry regarding the logistics of hosting a live audience during the show. 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