# Banned by NASA

> Military officials dismiss a mysterious West Coast missile launch as an optical illusion while travelers revolt against invasive new TSA body scans and radiation risks.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 251
- **Published:** 2010-11-11
- **Length:** 2h 18m
- **Topics:** Missile Mystery, TSA Opt-Out, EMP Theory, [Euroscepticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euroscepticism.md), [Aspartame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspartame.md), [Predictive Policing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictive-policing.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa

## About this episode

A mysterious plume off the Los Angeles coast sparked a national security frenzy as the Pentagon and NORAD dismissed the sighting as a commercial airplane contrail. Despite official denials from Brian Williams and military expert John Pike, internal warnings from the Naval Air Warfare Center and the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency suggest scheduled missile firing operations were active near Catalina Island. The discrepancy points to a potential cover-up regarding unauthorized launches or classified military testing in civilian corridors.

TSA security protocols have escalated to invasive "breast portion" pat-downs and full-body backscatter X-ray scans, prompting a National Opt-Out Day protest. While Bill O'Reilly and Kimberly Guilfoyle defend the measures on Fox News, University of California San Francisco researchers raise alarms over radiation leakage. Simultaneously, the Carnival Splendor cruise ship suffered a total power failure off Mexico, fueling theories of a Chinese submarine EMP demonstration following U.S. currency devaluation. In Europe, Council President Herman Van Rompuy faces backlash from Daniel Hannan after equating nationalism with war during a speech on rising Euroscepticism.

Executive Producer Carrie Schoen brings a marathon-inspired donation to the program as the hosts analyze the "Germany Boy" meme and the curious approval of aspartame across all food categories by the Codex Alimentarius. The show wraps with a look at Hillary Clinton’s carefully managed media appearance with Australian comedians Hamish and Andy, designed to soften her public image amidst global economic instability.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/transcript.md.

### 1. Fox News Criticism and Veterans Day Introduction (0:00–1:27)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 251 of the No Agenda show on November 11, 2010. The hosts offer a greeting to veterans and "human resources" in the chat room while briefly criticizing Fox News.

Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [veterans day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans-day.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [media assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassination.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Persimmon Fruit Varieties and Eating Tips (1:27–5:39)

A discussion regarding the sudden prevalence of persimmons at farmers markets leads to an explanation of the two main types: the soft, heart-shaped variety and the crunchy, tomato-shaped variety. Tips are provided on ripening, polishing, and slicing the fruit, along with a brief mention of juju bees.

Keywords: [persimmons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/persimmons.md), fuyu, hachiya, [farmers market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farmers-market.md), fruit, juju bees

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Legal Brief Against John C. Dvorak Regarding Kazoo Use (5:39–7:18)

A listener named Patrick B. submitted a mock legal brief against John C. Dvorak, labeling him "The Buzzkill." The complaint demands that the defendant cease playing the kazoo during the Gitmo Nation National Anthem to avoid distracting the "happy and distracted slaves."

Keywords: legal brief, [kazoo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kazoo.md), [national anthem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-anthem.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), patrick b.

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Executive Producer Carrie Schoen and the Germany Boy Meme (7:19–11:00)

Carrie Schoen is credited as the sole Executive Producer for the episode after donating $262 based on her marathon mileage in Munich. The segment references the "Germany Boy" meme, originating from an Arizona police officer's interaction with a German tourist.

Keywords: carrie schoen, munich marathon, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), germany boy, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Mysterious Missile Launch off the California Coast (11:00–20:23)

A mysterious plume captured by a CBS News helicopter off the coast of Los Angeles sparked widespread media speculation regarding a secret missile test. While the Pentagon and NORAD eventually labeled the event an optical illusion caused by an airplane contrail, the hosts examine the conflicting reports from military experts and government agencies.

Keywords: [missile launch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missile-launch.md), california coast, [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [norad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norad.md), contrail

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Pentagon Denial and the Airplane Contrail Explanation (20:23–25:55)

NBC's Brian Williams and military expert John Pike report on the Pentagon's insistence that the California "missile" was actually a jumbo jet. Critics argue the slow speed and course changes suggest a commercial flight, though skeptics point out the lack of radar data for a specific flight.

Keywords: [brian williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-williams.md), [nbc nightly news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-nightly-news.md), [john pike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-pike.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/747.md), [optical illusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/optical-illusion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Naval Air Warfare Center Missile Firing Warnings (25:55–30:20)

Information from a NASA insider and the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency reveals that intermittent missile firing operations were scheduled in the Naval Air Warfare Center sea range. Navigational warnings for the area near Catalina Island align with the location of the mysterious plume, contradicting the "contrail" narrative.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [notam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/notam.md), [national geospatial intelligence agency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-geospatial-intelligence-agency.md), naval air warfare center, [catalina island](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catalina-island.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Carnival Cruise Ship Power Failure and EMP Theory (30:20–39:32)

The Carnival Splendor cruise ship lost all power off the coast of Mexico, leading to a massive military-assisted tow to San Diego. A theory is proposed that an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) from a Chinese submarine may have disabled the ship as a show of force following U.S. currency devaluation.

Keywords: [carnival cruise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carnival-cruise.md), splender, [emp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emp.md), chinese submarine, [san diego](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-diego.md), [power outage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/power-outage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Fox News Support for TSA Enhanced Pat-Downs (39:33–47:07)

Fox News personalities Bill O'Reilly and Kimberly Guilfoyle are criticized for their support of invasive TSA security measures. The discussion focuses on the legal concept of "implied consent" and the lack of Supreme Court rulings specifically authorizing the new "enhanced" pat-down procedures.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), implied consent, [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [kimberly guilfoyle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kimberly-guilfoyle.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/9.md)

### 10. TSA Checkpoint Observations and Wheelchair Searches (47:07–50:23)

A personal account of traveling through Burbank and Oakland airports highlights the contrast between standard metal detectors and new full-body scanners. The narrative describes the "humiliating" experience of a man in a wheelchair undergoing an intensive pat-down by TSA agents.

Keywords: [burbank airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burbank-airport.md), [oakland airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland-airport.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), wheelchair, [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/10.md)

### 11. TSA "Breast Portion" Pat-Down Procedures (50:24–54:40)

New TSA protocols involve using the front of the hand rather than the back for pat-downs, specifically targeting the "breast portion" and groin areas. Media reports frame these invasive searches as a necessary alternative to full-body scanners to detect non-metallic explosives.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [pat-down](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pat-down.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md), [explosives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/explosives.md), [security screening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-screening.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Flight Attendant Unions and Crew Pass Demands (54:40–57:34)

Flight attendant and pilot unions are resisting the new security measures, citing health risks from radiation and the invasive nature of pat-downs in uniform. The unions are advocating for a "Crew Pass" system that would allow vetted airline employees to bypass traditional security checkpoints.

Keywords: [flight attendants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-attendants.md), pilot unions, [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md), crew pass, sky harbor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/12.md)

### 13. National Opt-Out Day and Radiation Concerns (57:34–1:01:29)

Activists are organizing a National Opt-Out Day for November 24th to protest TSA body scanners. Concerns from the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) regarding the safety of backscatter X-ray radiation are discussed, alongside suggestions for passengers to wear dosimeters to measure exposure.

Keywords: opt-out day, [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md), [ucsf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ucsf.md), [dosimeter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dosimeter.md), [backscatter x-ray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backscatter-x-ray.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/13.md)

### 14. TSA Handbook Leaks and Security Jobs Program (1:01:30–1:08:34)

A TSA insider reports that the agency often implements unwritten policies before they appear in official handbooks. The expansion of the TSA is characterized as a government jobs program funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, while concerns are raised about X-ray leakage from poorly sealed scanning machines.

Keywords: tsa handbook, american recovery act, [jobs program](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-program.md), [behavioral detection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/behavioral-detection.md), radiation leakage

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Global Donations and the Irish Economic Crisis (1:08:41–1:17:04)

The hosts acknowledge donations from listeners in Austria, the Netherlands, and Ireland. A donor from Limerick, Ireland, notes the country's impending economic collapse and IMF intervention, drawing parallels to the Greek debt crisis.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [bailout](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bailout.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Birthday Shout-outs and Mushroom Field Guides (1:17:04–1:19:59)

The hosts provide birthday wishes for a listener named Shelby and mention a mushroom identification app by Roger Phillips. They also plug "FeelGood Trader," a Chicago-based Craigslist competitor run by a producer.

Keywords: [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), matty scriptback, roger phillips, [mushrooms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mushrooms.md), feelgood trader

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Airbus A380 Technical Issues and In-Flight Entertainment (1:19:59–1:22:24)

A listener shares an anecdote about using the USB port on an Airbus A380 to listen to No Agenda episodes, followed by news of Qantas grounding its A380 fleet due to engine failures. The segment touches on the ongoing competitive "wars" between Airbus and Boeing.

Keywords: [airbus a380](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus-a380.md), [qantas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qantas.md), [boeing 787](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-787.md), usb port, airline wars

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Ankle Bracelet Waiting Lists in Pittsburgh (1:22:25–1:24:16)

Pittsburgh courts report a massive backlog of nearly 1,000 people waiting for electronic monitoring ankle bracelets. The "Phoenix Docket" program has become so successful that the demand for monitoring units for minor offenses has outpaced the supply.

Keywords: [ankle bracelets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ankle-bracelets.md), [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md), [house arrest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-arrest.md), phoenix docket, [electronic monitoring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-monitoring.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/18.md)

### 19. LAPD Medical Marijuana Training and Lakers Game (1:24:17–1:28:42)

An anecdote from a dinner with an LAPD sergeant reveals that officers have received no formal training on identifying valid medical marijuana licenses. The story transitions to a first-time experience at a Los Angeles Lakers game, focusing on the high-production entertainment and merchandising at the Staples Center.

Keywords: [lapd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lapd.md), [medical marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-marijuana.md), staples center, [lakers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lakers.md), laker girls

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Gold Prices and World Bank Currency Indicators (1:28:43–1:31:21)

The price of gold reached $1,400 as the World Bank suggested using gold as an indicator for foreign exchange rates. The hosts debate whether gold is rising or the U.S. dollar is simply devaluing due to the $600 billion debt monetization.

Keywords: [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [dollar devaluation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dollar-devaluation.md), foundation x, fractional banking

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Dambisa Moyo on Structural Unemployment and Protectionism (1:31:21–1:36:24)

Economist Dambisa Moyo argues at a "Reboot America" event that the U.S. must discuss protectionism to address structural unemployment. Her views are dismissed by government officials who maintain that globalization and free trade are the only viable economic paths despite the loss of manufacturing jobs.

Keywords: dambisa moyo, [protectionism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protectionism.md), structural unemployment, [globalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalization.md), [nafta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nafta.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Herman Van Rompuy and the Rise of Euroscepticism (1:36:25–1:41:17)

European Council President Herman Van Rompuy delivered a speech condemning "Euroscepticism" and equating nationalism with war. Member of European Parliament Daniel Hannan criticized the speech, defending patriotism and national sovereignty against the centralized power of the EU.

Keywords: [herman van rompuy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herman-van-rompuy.md), [euroscepticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euroscepticism.md), [nationalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalism.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [daniel hannan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-hannan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Haiti Tourism Branding and Glee "Gay Bully" Meme (1:41:17–1:46:13)

A report from Haiti indicates the tourist board is hiring photographers to capture "happy families" to improve the country's image. Meanwhile, the TV show Glee is analyzed for its "gay bullying" storyline, which the hosts suggest promotes the meme that all bullies are secretly gay.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [glee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glee.md), gay bullying, [media memes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-memes.md), tourist board

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Codex Alimentarius and Aspartame Approval List (1:46:15–1:51:25)

The Codex Alimentarius has released an extensive list of food categories approved for the use of aspartame, including dairy, fruit, and even vinegar. The hosts discuss the history of the sweetener's approval under Donald Rumsfeld and its potential links to neurological disorders.

Keywords: [codex alimentarius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/codex-alimentarius.md), [aspartame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspartame.md), [donald rumsfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-rumsfeld.md), neurotoxin, [food additives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-additives.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Sponsor segment: Street Boss Horse Racing Advertisement (1:51:26–1:54:23)

A breakdown of a niche television advertisement for a stallion named "Street Boss." The ad targets high-end investors by promoting the horse's racing record and the sale of its first "weanlings."

Keywords: street boss, breeders' cup, [horse racing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/horse-racing.md), weanlings, stallion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Biodiversity and Global Warming in School Textbooks (1:54:24–2:01:57)

Scans from a 2010 environmental science textbook show students being taught that Monsanto's GMO crops benefit biodiversity by reducing insecticide use. The curriculum also focuses heavily on the catastrophic consequences of global warming, including disease spread and extreme weather.

Keywords: [biodiversity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biodiversity.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), geosystems, [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Predictive Policing and Statistical Crime Analysis (2:01:57–2:03:27)

NBC News reports on "predictive policing," a method using mathematical formulas to determine where crimes are likely to occur. Critics argue this is a precursor to arresting individuals before a crime is committed, further eroding civil liberties.

Keywords: [predictive policing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictive-policing.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), crime fighting, statistical analysis, [minority report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minority-report.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Hypertexting and Hypernetworking Health Study (2:03:28–2:12:43)

A study from Case Western Reserve University claims that "hypertexting" teens (sending over 120 texts a day) are more likely to engage in risky behaviors like binge drinking and drug use. The hosts dismiss the study as a marketing scam funded by the Kaiser Family Foundation to drive enrollment in youth programs.

Keywords: hypertexting, [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [case western reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/case-western-reserve.md), [kaiser family foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiser-family-foundation.md), [peer pressure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peer-pressure.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Hillary Clinton Interview with Hamish and Andy (2:12:43–2:18:24)

The show concludes with a clip of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton being interviewed by Australian comedy duo Hamish and Andy. The hosts mock the subsequent media praise for Clinton's "warm and normal" personality during the lighthearted exchange.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), hamish and andy, [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [secretary of state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-of-state.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/251-banned-by-nasa/chapter/29.md)

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