# Grapes the Size of Little Oranges > From the mechanics of Boeing wing design to the surveillance tactics of the KGB, the hosts dismantle corporate narratives and airline industry failures. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 25 - **Published:** 2008-04-05 - **Length:** 1h 38m - **Topics:** [Boeing 777](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-777.md), Heathrow Terminal 5, Moscow Peace Festival, Muscadine grapes, Twitter API, [Fairness Doctrine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fairness-doctrine.md), Baba Boom - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges ## About this episode Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak challenge the prevailing climate narrative following a Nature magazine report suggesting human influence on global weather cycles is overstated. The discussion shifts to aviation safety as Curry announces a personal boycott of the Boeing 777 fleet, citing a high-pressure fuel pump failure at Heathrow and the FAA's failure to maintain distance from the airlines it regulates. They contrast Boeing's flexible wing philosophy with the rigid designs of McDonnell Douglas and Airbus. International travel logistics take center stage as Dvorak compares the rapid expansion of Beijing Airport to the systemic baggage failures at Heathrow Terminal 5, which recently saw the arrest of supermodel Naomi Campbell. The hosts recount the 1988 Moscow Music Peace Festival, featuring anecdotes of Ozzy Osbourne and Motley Crue navigating Soviet-era surveillance at the Hotel Mir. Additional reports cover the financial collapse of ATA and Skybus, the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine's impact on Clear Channel, and the emergence of Twitter as a real-time feedback loop for broadcasters. John C. Dvorak shares his discovery of the Muscadine grape during a Victorian-themed road trip through Van Buren, Arkansas. The duo explores the 'theater of the mind' through the lens of Stan Freberg, while Curry reveals his new international game show pilot, Baba Boom. The session concludes with a taste test of PG Tips Gold and a warning regarding the health implications of soy milk consumption. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/transcript.md. ### 1. Weather Patterns, Global Warming Skepticism and Nature Magazine Report (0:01–2:00) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss a sudden cold front moving from Scandinavia toward the United Kingdom, bringing hail and expected snow in April. They transition into skepticism regarding global warming, referencing a report in Nature magazine that suggests human influence on climate cycles may be overstated. Keywords: [weather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [nature magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nature-magazine.md), [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [scandinavia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scandinavia.md), low-pressure system [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Five Cavendish Square, Amarone Wine and San Francisco Dining (2:00–7:54) Adam Curry describes a dinner at a private club in London called Five Cavendish Square, where he was served a 2004 Amarone wine with 16% alcohol content. The discussion moves to an upcoming meeting in San Francisco, where they plan to dine at La Follie, a restaurant known for serving frog's legs and being a favorite spot for local chefs on Mondays. Keywords: five cavendish square, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), amarone, [sicily](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sicily.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), la follie, [wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Reality Television, Human Emotion and The Gong Show (7:55–18:33) A listener comment sparks a debate about the quality of modern television. Adam Curry argues that while most television is untruthful due to digital editing and jump cuts, reality talent contests like X-Factor and Idol capture genuine human emotion that cannot be faked. They compare modern formats to historical predecessors like Ted Mack's Amateur Hour and The Gong Show. Keywords: [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [holland's got talent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holland-s-got-talent.md), [x-factor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x-factor.md), the gong show, digital editing, ted mack [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Daylight Savings Time, Computer Clock Inaccuracy and Audio Sync (18:34–22:22) The shift to daylight savings time in the United States caused scheduling conflicts across Google Calendar and Outlook for the production team. They explore why computer internal clocks often drift by several minutes over a month and how these inaccuracies cause synchronization issues for podcasters recording "double-ender" audio files. Keywords: [daylight savings time](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daylight-savings-time.md), [google calendar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-calendar.md), [outlook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outlook.md), atomic clock, [audacity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audacity.md), internal clock, synchronization [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/4.md) ### 5. PG Tips Gold vs Regular Tea Taste Profiles (22:23–24:12) John C. Dvorak compares the taste of regular PG Tips tea to the Gold variety after purchasing a large quantity at a discount. He describes the regular tea as having a "green" or "earthy" vegetal flavor, while the Gold version is a smoother, milder drink. Keywords: [pg tips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pg-tips.md), pg tips gold, [tea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tea.md), taste profile, distributor, expiration [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Broadcasting Preparation, Fresh and Easy Supermarkets (24:14–25:42) The hosts discuss the "No Agenda" philosophy, noting that over-preparing for segments can suck the life out of a broadcast. They reflect on a previous discussion about Fresh and Easy supermarkets where Adam Curry felt he had read too much material, making the segment feel less spontaneous. Keywords: fresh and easy, [supermarkets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supermarkets.md), [broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting.md), [pre-interview](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-interview.md), [agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agenda.md), preparation [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Digital Cameras, Kodak 720p and Non-Threatening Journalism (25:43–29:57) John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry discuss the high quality of small digital cameras like the Kodak 720p HD and the Flip camera. They note that professional crews, including those from Frontline, use these small devices in conflict zones like Afghanistan because they are less threatening than large broadcast cameras and do not immediately identify the user as press. Keywords: [kodak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kodak.md), flip camera, 720p, digital video, [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [frontline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frontline.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Heathrow Terminal 5, Naomi Campbell Arrest and Baggage Failures (29:58–32:24) Ongoing technical failures at Heathrow's Terminal 5 have led to thousands of lost bags and cancelled flights. The hosts discuss supermodel Naomi Campbell's arrest at the terminal following a dispute over a missing suitcase and compare the situation to the historical baggage system failures at Denver International Airport. Keywords: [heathrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow.md), [terminal 5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terminal-5.md), [british airways](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-airways.md), [naomi campbell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/naomi-campbell.md), baggage system, [denver international airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver-international-airport.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Beijing Airport Expansion vs Saigon Airport Logistics (32:24–35:34) John C. Dvorak compares the rapid construction of the massive new Beijing airport to the delays at Heathrow. He recounts a difficult experience at the airport in Saigon, describing the Stalinist architecture, lack of signage, and the chaotic process of finding flight information by checking individual screens at check-in counters. Keywords: [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), [heathrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow.md), [saigon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saigon.md), [vietnam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam.md), stalinist architecture, airport design, [logistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logistics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Moscow Airport, Soviet Engineering and Pressure Mats (35:34–37:41) John C. Dvorak describes the Moscow airport shortly before the fall of communism, noting it was pitch black due to low-lumen Russian lightbulbs being used in German-designed fixtures. He recalls children jumping on pressure mats to trigger the only working automatic door in the terminal. Keywords: [moscow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moscow.md), [soviet union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soviet-union.md), airport lighting, pressure mats, german engineering, [communism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Moscow Music Peace Festival, Ozzy Osbourne and Motley Crue (37:42–41:07) Adam Curry recounts his trip to the 1988 Moscow Music Peace Festival, an anti-drug concert organized by manager Doc McGee as community service. He shares anecdotes about the heavy drinking on the flight, Ozzy Osbourne wetting himself in the aisle, and the Moscow chapter of the Hell's Angels appearing outside the hotel on Java motorcycles. Keywords: [moscow music peace festival](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moscow-music-peace-festival.md), [doc mcgee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doc-mcgee.md), [ozzy osbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozzy-osbourne.md), [bon jovi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bon-jovi.md), [motley crue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/motley-crue.md), [sharon osbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sharon-osbourne.md), lenin stadium [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/11.md) ### 12. KGB Surveillance, Hotel Mir and International Phone Calls (41:08–45:53) The hosts discuss the reality of Soviet surveillance, noting that the KGB's technology often appeared clunky and outdated, such as microphones visible under layers of paint in hotel rooms. Adam Curry describes the difficulty of making international calls through "floor ladies" and how he eventually used a Westwood One satellite truck to get a U.S. dial tone. Keywords: [kgb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kgb.md), mir hotel, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), hot wheels, [westwood one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/westwood-one.md), satellite truck, [moscow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moscow.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Show Notes, Metadata and Search Engine Optimization (45:54–47:25) Adam Curry praises the detailed show notes produced by a contributor named Bubba, hosted at Dvorak.org. They discuss the value of show notes as metadata that allows listeners to find specific topics or references from past episodes through search engines. Keywords: [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md), bubba, [metadata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metadata.md), [search engines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-engines.md), permalinks, [cage match](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cage-match.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Van Buren, Arkansas and Victorian Architecture (47:25–49:55) John C. Dvorak describes a road trip through Arkansas, highlighting the town of Van Buren as a pristine Victorian town that looks like a Hollywood movie set. He challenges the "hillbilly" stereotype of the state, noting its scenic beauty and unique cultural identity. Keywords: van buren, [arkansas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arkansas.md), [victorian architecture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victorian-architecture.md), [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), [memphis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memphis.md), [road trip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/road-trip.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Arkansas Wine Regions, Muscadine Grapes and Lichen Indicators (49:55–54:08) John C. Dvorak explores the wine industry in Arkansas, noting it is one of the few states that grows four distinct types of grapes, including the large Muscadine grape. He discusses the history of wineries in the region and how he identifies potential wine-growing areas by the presence of specific hanging lichen on oak trees. Keywords: arkansas wine, muscadine grapes, vinifera, rotundifolia, paso robles, lichen, gallo [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/15.md) ### 16. High Times, Marijuana Legalization and Amsterdam Cannabis Cup (54:08–55:43) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the magazine High Times and a writer with a similar name to Dvorak who advocates for marijuana legalization. Adam recalls being invited to judge a smoking contest in Amsterdam but declining the offer to avoid complicating a round of corporate financing. Keywords: high times, [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), cannabis cup, [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [finance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finance.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Memphis Music Scene, Graceland and Elvis Presley's House (55:44–59:04) John C. Dvorak describes his visit to Memphis, comparing its music scene to Nashville's and recounting a stay at a Holiday Inn with a great basement band. He shares his impressions of Graceland, noting that Elvis Presley's home was smaller than expected and reminded him of Bill Gates' first house. Keywords: [memphis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memphis.md), [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [elvis presley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elvis-presley.md), graceland, [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [holiday inn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holiday-inn.md), [barbecue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbecue.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Clear Channel, Radio Consolidation and The Fairness Doctrine (59:05–1:01:34) The hosts discuss the financial struggles of Clear Channel and the impact of radio consolidation on the industry. They trace the rise of political talk radio to the 1987 elimination of the Fairness Doctrine, which previously required broadcasters to provide balanced airtime for opposing viewpoints. Keywords: [clear channel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clear-channel.md), [radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio.md), [fairness doctrine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fairness-doctrine.md), [rush limbaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rush-limbaugh.md), [consolidation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consolidation.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [equal time rule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equal-time-rule.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Level 3 Network Issues and Google Routing Problems (1:01:34–1:04:55) Adam Curry reports experiencing low-level networking problems and routing issues with Google services. He suspects the issues may be related to Level 3 Communications or Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) errors, noting that certain IP addresses appeared to be used by multiple interfaces. Keywords: [level 3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/level-3.md), [bgp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bgp.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [networking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/networking.md), [internet outage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-outage.md), trace route, [ip address](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ip-address.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/19.md) ### 20. The Romanticism of Radio, Theater of the Mind and Stan Freberg (1:04:55–1:09:33) Adam Curry reflects on the romantic appeal of radio as a "theater of the mind" and explains why he prefers audio over video for his podcasting. They reference the theories of Stan Freberg regarding the power of audio imagery and discuss the decline of localized, personality-driven radio in the age of corporate programming. Keywords: [radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio.md), [theater of the mind](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater-of-the-mind.md), stan freberg, [disc jockey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disc-jockey.md), live 365, [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [z100](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/z100.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Twitter as a Feedback Loop and Marketing Tool (1:09:34–1:12:41) The hosts discuss the potential of using Twitter as a real-time feedback loop during live broadcasts. Adam Curry explains how he uses the platform to alert his 4,000 followers when a show is starting, creating a "mini-blogosphere" that can quickly draw in several hundred listeners. Keywords: [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md), [feedback loop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/feedback-loop.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), alert mechanism [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Twitter API, Client Apps and Windows Recommendations (1:12:41–1:17:08) Adam Curry explains the mechanics of Twitter, including the use of the "@" sign to get someone's attention and the open API that allows for third-party clients. He recommends using dedicated apps like Twitterific rather than the website and asks the audience for recommendations for the best Windows-based Twitter client. Keywords: twitterific, [api](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/api.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [spam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spam.md), windows apps, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [threads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/threads.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Gmail Search Capabilities and MX Record Control (1:17:09–1:20:48) John C. Dvorak expresses his reluctance to depend on third-party email providers like Gmail, preferring to maintain control over his own mail servers. Adam Curry argues for the superior search capabilities of Gmail and explains how controlling the MX record in DNS settings provides the ultimate security against being locked out by a provider. Keywords: [gmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmail.md), [mx record](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mx-record.md), [dns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dns.md), [squirrelmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/squirrelmail.md), [thunderbird](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thunderbird.md), email search, [mark perkel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-perkel.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Airline Bankruptcies and Freeway Shootings (1:21:41–1:23:17) John C. Dvorak notes that three airlines, including ATA and Skybus, have recently gone out of business, officially blamed on rising fuel costs. He also mentions a disturbing resurgence of freeway shootings in Northern California and Los Angeles. Keywords: ata, skybus, airline bankruptcy, [fuel costs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fuel-costs.md), freeway shootings, [highway 80](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/highway-80.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/24.md) ### 25. FAA Oversight, Boeing 777 Safety and Maintenance Concerns (1:23:17–1:27:14) Adam Curry criticizes the FAA for being too close to the airlines it regulates, treating them as customers rather than subjects of oversight. He expresses specific concern over the Boeing 777 fleet following a high-pressure fuel pump failure at Heathrow, stating he will avoid flying on the aircraft until mandatory fixes are implemented. Keywords: [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [boeing 777](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-777.md), [maintenance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maintenance.md), [air safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-safety.md), [heathrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow.md), fuel pump, [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Wing Design Theories, Boeing vs McDonnell Douglas (1:27:13–1:30:01) John C. Dvorak explains the differing philosophies of aircraft wing design, contrasting Boeing’s "flapping" flexible wings with McDonnell Douglas’s rigid wings. He describes the experience of watching an Airbus wing flex during a flight and discusses how these designs impact maintenance requirements. Keywords: wing design, [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), mcdonnell douglas, [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), blade flap, aeronautical engineering [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Customs and Border Protection Experimentation (1:30:02–1:32:04) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak plan a social experiment for Adam's next entry into the United States. They discuss whether Adam should immediately ask for a "team leader" at customs to see if it changes the behavior of the agents or his likelihood of being sent to secondary inspection. Keywords: [customs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customs.md), border protection, [team leader](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/team-leader.md), secondary inspection, [travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/27.md) ### 28. BBC iPlayer, Bandwidth Shaping and ISP Blacklists (1:32:04–1:35:13) The BBC has threatened to publish a blacklist of Internet Service Providers that throttle or shape bandwidth for its iPlayer service. The hosts discuss the transition of cable companies like Comcast into "pipe businesses" and the inevitability of IPTV replacing traditional cable television. Keywords: bbc iplayer, [isp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isp.md), bandwidth shaping, [peer-to-peer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peer-to-peer.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), [iptv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iptv.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Baba Boom Game Show Pilot (1:35:13–1:36:42) Adam Curry reveals he has produced a pilot for a new game show titled "Baba Boom," which is being shopped to international buyers in Cannes. He mentions having a DVD of the promo and pilot episode to show Dvorak. Keywords: baba boom, [game show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/game-show.md), [cannes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannes.md), [pilot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot.md), [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/25-grapes-the-size-of-little-oranges/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Soy Milk Health Concerns and Outro (1:36:43–1:38:10) The hosts briefly touch upon potential health risks associated with soy milk before ending the program. They agree to discuss the topic in more detail the following week and sign off from their respective locations in the UK and California. 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