# Eating the Evidence

> A controversial marketing campaign for World Trade Center silver coins leads a deep dive into Afghan infrastructure projects and the domestic deployment of orbital spy technology.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 232
- **Published:** 2010-09-05
- **Length:** 2h 8m
- **Topics:** WTC Coins, [Robert Gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-gates.md), Spy Satellites, Afghan Railroad, MDMA Research, [CSIS](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csis.md), [Paris Hilton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris-hilton.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence

## About this episode

A television commercial for September 11th commemorative coins has sparked outrage for marketing silver and gold recovered from the World Trade Center ruins. The United States Secret Service Uniform Division Benefit Fund licensed the product, which features a sculpture of the USS New York. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the ethics of selling Ground Zero evidence as a collector's item while the nation approaches the ninth anniversary of the attacks.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates recently admitted in Baghdad that the original premise for the Iraq War was invalid, despite his positive outlook on the current outcome. Meanwhile, the US Army Corps of Engineers is overseeing the construction of a for-profit railroad in Afghanistan, connecting Uzbekistan to Mazar-e Sharif. These geopolitical shifts occur as the Director of National Intelligence authorizes domestic law enforcement to utilize military spy satellites, raising significant privacy concerns among oversight groups. In the pharmaceutical sector, the FDA and DEA have approved MDMA research led by Dr. Mithoefer to treat post-traumatic stress disorder in military veterans.

Canadian Secret Intelligence Services employees reportedly walked out of a family dinner in protest after a listener played the program during the meal. The episode also features a knighthood ceremony for Sir Hugh Wilson and a breakdown of the 2010 demographic study revealing that eighty-three percent of the audience identifies as exclusively heterosexual. Adam Curry concludes by announcing the Hot Pockets Across America RV tour to visit producers nationwide.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Introduce Episode 232 (0:00–3:07)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open No Agenda episode 232 from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. They welcome the live audience at noagendachat.com and acknowledge the "sips at sea" using voice-over-IP protocols. The hosts prepare to recognize the executive producers and associate executive producers who fund the listener-supported program.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [media assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassination.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [southern california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-california.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Jessica Reisterer and Bill the Cage Builder Donation (3:07–4:26)

Jessica Reisterer, also known as Gitmo Fondue, contributes $200.74 to the show as a 37th birthday gift for her boyfriend, Bill. Bill is described as a "beardie cage builder" from Gitmo Oberland. The donation includes an accidental double-payment which she allows the show to keep, resulting in her being "de-douched" by the hosts.

Keywords: jessica reisterer, gitmo oberland, cage builder, birthday donation, de-douched

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Paul Couture Releases Orwell Quote Media Assassin Challenge Coin (4:27–6:43)

Sir Paul Couture announces a new "Media Assassin" challenge coin featuring a quote from George Orwell regarding the duty of intelligent men to restate the obvious. The coin features the number 42, which is the binary representation of the date 10-10-10 and a reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The coins are being sold for $33.33 at noagendafans.com to commemorate the upcoming date.

Keywords: [paul couture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-couture.md), [challenge coin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/challenge-coin.md), [george orwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-orwell.md), [media assassin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassin.md), [binary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/binary.md), [hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hitchhiker-s-guide-to-the-galaxy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/3.md)

### 4. No Agenda iPhone Game and Super Karma Promotion (6:43–9:02)

A new No Agenda tilt game is available in the iPhone App Store for 99 cents, utilizing the accelerometer to collect "slaves" while avoiding mainstream media obstacles. Additionally, the hosts promote the "10-10 Super Karma 42" package at noagendasuperkarma.com, which includes a lapel pin and medallion for $42.42. They reiterate the show's open-source model, encouraging fans to use logos and broadcast the content freely.

Keywords: [iphone game](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-game.md), [app store](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/app-store.md), [accelerometer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accelerometer.md), no agenda super karma, [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), lapel pin

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/4.md)

### 5. CSIS Employees React to No Agenda Podcast in Canada (9:02–10:38)

A 21-year-old producer from Canada reports that playing the No Agenda podcast during a family dinner caused a group of guests to leave in anger. The guests were employees of the CSIS, the Canadian Secret Intelligence Services. The listener's father was reportedly furious that the podcast was "assassinating" the work performed by the intelligence agency.

Keywords: [csis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/csis.md), canadian secret intelligence services, [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), great white north, podcast reaction

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/5.md)

### 6. No Agenda Demographic Study and Sexual Orientation Results (10:38–13:22)

The results of the No Agenda demographic study conducted from July to September 2010 reveal that 10% of the audience is female and the primary age bracket is 29 to 38. Data indicates that 56% of listeners followed John C. Dvorak to the show, while 17% followed Adam Curry. Sexual orientation data based on the Kinsey scale shows 83% of the audience identifies as exclusively heterosexual.

Keywords: demographic study, kinsey scale, heterosexual, homosexual, audience statistics, [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/6.md)

### 7. USS New York Commemorative Coins and World Trade Center Steel (13:29–18:22)

A television commercial for a September 11th commemorative coin set draws criticism for selling "evidence" from Ground Zero. The coins and a sculpture of the USS New York are reportedly clad in silver recovered from the World Trade Center ruins and gold. The product is licensed by the United States Secret Service Uniform Division Benefit Fund, which the hosts find abhorrent.

Keywords: uss new york, [world trade center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-center.md), [ground zero](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ground-zero.md), commemorative coin, united states secret service, silver recovery

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Paris Hilton Cocaine Arrest and Nancy Grace Coverage (18:22–24:01)

Paris Hilton was arrested for cocaine possession on the Las Vegas Strip after a traffic stop involving her boyfriend. Nancy Grace featured a panel of lawyers, including Gloria Allred and Daniel Horowitz, to discuss the felony charges. Horowitz, who represents a defendant accused of burglarizing Hilton's home, argued that the celebrity was being unfairly targeted.

Keywords: [paris hilton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris-hilton.md), [nancy grace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-grace.md), cocaine arrest, las vegas strip, daniel horowitz, [gloria allred](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gloria-allred.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Missing Feet Mystery and Global Reporting Trends (24:01–25:55)

Reports of severed feet washing ashore or being found in various locations, including Brighton and the Pacific Northwest, continue to surface. In one instance, a burnt body was found near Brighton with a missing foot, while sonar is being used to investigate a harbor in another case. The hosts suggest this is a global phenomenon that is often only reported by local news outlets.

Keywords: missing feet, [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [brighton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brighton.md), sonar investigation, tennis shoes, media meme

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Miami International Airport Shutdown and Bio-Terror Scare (25:55–30:24)

Miami International Airport was shut down for several hours after screeners found a suspicious package belonging to a scientist with a prior conviction for shipping bubonic plague. CNN reported the incident as a potential pipe bomb threat, though it was later cleared by the bomb squad. The hosts suggest the event was a staged "setup" to coincide with National Preparedness Month and instill fear of biological warfare.

Keywords: [miami international airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-international-airport.md), [bubonic plague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bubonic-plague.md), [national preparedness month](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-preparedness-month.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [pipe bomb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pipe-bomb.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Robert Gates Comments on Iraq War Validity and C-SPAN Robots (30:25–32:45)

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates reportedly stated in Baghdad that the premise for the Iraq War was not valid, even if the outcome was positive. The hosts note difficulty finding the specific quote in the C-SPAN video library. They discover that C-SPAN's robots.txt file blocks most search engine crawlers from indexing their transcripts, with the exception of Google.

Keywords: [robert gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-gates.md), operation new dawn, [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), robots.txt, [baghdad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baghdad.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/11.md)

### 12. David Kilcullen on Counterinsurgency and Military Rebalancing (32:46–38:55)

Author David Kilcullen discusses the future of counterinsurgency and the need for the U.S. military to rebalance between current conflicts and potential future wars with powers like China. The discussion touches on Secretary Robert Gates' efforts to manage the military-industrial complex and cost overruns from contractors like Lockheed Martin. Michelle Flournoy is also mentioned as a key senior official in the Department of Defense.

Keywords: david kilcullen, [counterinsurgency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counterinsurgency.md), [robert gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-gates.md), [lockheed martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockheed-martin.md), [military industrial complex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-industrial-complex.md), [michelle flournoy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-flournoy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/12.md)

### 13. US Army Corps of Engineers Building Railroads in Afghanistan (38:55–41:21)

The US Army Corps of Engineers is reportedly involved in building a for-profit railroad in Afghanistan. Projects include a 50-mile link from Uzbekistan to Mazar-e Sharif and technical studies for a 200-kilometer line connecting Afghanistan to Pakistan. The hosts speculate the infrastructure is intended to transport gemstones, gold, or opium out of the country.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), us army corps of engineers, railroad construction, [uzbekistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uzbekistan.md), mazar-e sharif, gemstones

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Barack Obama Labor Day Speech and High-Speed Rail Jobs (41:21–43:47)

President Barack Obama delivered a Labor Day speech emphasizing the need to rebuild the middle class and invest in infrastructure. He claimed that investments in roads, bridges, and high-speed railroads would create hundreds of thousands of private-sector jobs. The hosts critique the visual quality of the address, noting apparent chroma key artifacts around the President's ear.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [labor day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-day.md), [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [job creation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-creation.md), [chroma key](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chroma-key.md), [middle class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-class.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Warren Buffett and BNSF Railway Maintenance Standards (43:48–47:19)

The BNSF Railway, recently acquired by Warren Buffett, is criticized for the rusty and unwashed appearance of its locomotives. The hosts compare this to historical pride in refinery maintenance and speculate that the railway is neglecting current equipment in anticipation of high-speed rail upgrades. They suggest new rail specs for double-decker cars are designed to accommodate large freight containers.

Keywords: [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [bnsf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bnsf.md), [burlington northern santa fe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burlington-northern-santa-fe.md), [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), freight transport, double-decker trains

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/15.md)

### 16. National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month Proclamation (47:20–49:09)

President Obama proclaimed September 2010 as National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month. The hosts link the timing of this proclamation to the high-profile arrest of Paris Hilton for cocaine possession. They argue the celebrity arrest serves as a propaganda tool to raise awareness for drug monitoring technology and recovery initiatives.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [whitehouse.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whitehouse-gov.md), addiction recovery month, [paris hilton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris-hilton.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [gitmo jewelry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-jewelry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Jack's Snack Packs for Troops and PR Video Packages (49:10–55:04)

A human interest story about a seven-year-old boy named Jack organizing "snack packs" for troops in Afghanistan is identified as a likely pre-packaged PR campaign. The report, aired by Alan Sanchez on Good Day Sacramento, features the child in military-style clothing. The hosts suggest the story is a "feel-good" setup designed to promote specific brands like Slim Jim and Gatorade.

Keywords: snack packs, alan sanchez, [sacramento](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sacramento.md), [modesto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/modesto.md), military support, [video press release](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-press-release.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Howard Stern Internet Subscription Rumors and Digital Value (55:05–59:50)

Rumors that Howard Stern may move to an internet subscription model are met with skepticism regarding the perceived value of digital content. Referencing the book "Fortune's Fool" about Edgar Bronfman Jr., the hosts argue that consumers struggle to assign high monetary value to intangible digital goods compared to physical objects. They contrast this with the No Agenda "value-for-value" model based on volunteerism and symbiotic listener support.

Keywords: [howard stern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-stern.md), internet subscription, [music industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music-industry.md), edgar bronfman jr, digital value, [app store](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/app-store.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/18.md)

### 19. No Agenda Donation Segment and Listener Feedback (59:50–1:05:05)

The hosts read a list of donors, including Sir John Snyder and Glenn Jansen, and share a note from Vivian Hingsberg regarding her husband's long commute. A listener named Brad Ledin criticizes NPR for its "underwriters," noting a correlation between an REI advertisement and a subsequent story on camping gear. The segment highlights the global reach of the audience, from Chicago to London.

Keywords: [john snyder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-snyder.md), glenn jansen, vivian hingsberg, sarnia ontario, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [underwriters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwriters.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Birthday Shout-outs and Numerology Donations (1:05:06–1:08:14)

Adam and John celebrate several listener birthdays, including Marinus van Opzeeland from the Netherlands and Terry Heyman. Heyman's donation included specific numerology tied to the hosts' birthdays. The hosts remind listeners to include birthday details clearly in their PayPal notes to ensure they are recognized on the correct episode.

Keywords: [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), marinus van opzeeland, terry heyman, geraldine, paypal notes, [numerology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/numerology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/20.md)

### 21. No Agenda Knighthood Ceremony for Hugh Wilson and Matthew Fanning (1:08:14–1:11:49)

Hugh Wilson is dubbed Sir Hugh Wilson of the No Agenda Round Table following a donation of $1,000. Matthew Fanning is also knighted in the "Order of the Mint" for his support through Paul Couture's fan site. The hosts briefly discuss the gender-neutrality of the name "Era" before deciding to postpone a third knighthood until they can confirm the recipient's title.

Keywords: [hugh wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hugh-wilson.md), matthew fanning, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [order of the mint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/order-of-the-mint.md), [paul couture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-couture.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Portugal Pedophile Ring Convictions and Pentagon Cover-up Claims (1:11:50–1:16:43)

A major trial in Portugal concluded with the conviction of seven individuals, including a former ambassador and a celebrity, for running a pedophile ring at a state-run orphanage. Carlos Silvino, a former driver, confessed to over 600 crimes. The hosts suggest that a recent story about the Pentagon declining to investigate child pornography purchases by employees is a distraction from the scale of the Portuguese scandal.

Keywords: [portugal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portugal.md), [pedophile ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedophile-ring.md), [lisbon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon.md), carlos silvino, [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md), madeline mccann

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Craigslist Shuts Down Adult Services Section (1:16:43–1:19:53)

Craigslist has removed its "Adult Services" section following pressure from law enforcement and advocacy groups. The hosts argue this will not stop prostitution but will instead push it into other sections of the site or onto platforms like Twitter. They suggest that legal red-light districts or specific ".xxx" domains would be a more effective way to manage the industry.

Keywords: [craigslist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/craigslist.md), adult services, [prostitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prostitution.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), eros, [red light district](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-light-district.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/23.md)

### 24. UFO and Ghost Sightings Reported in UK and Canada (1:19:54–1:22:37)

The Telegraph reports a surge in emergency calls to 999 regarding UFOs and ghosts, including a sighting of the ghost of actor Paul Newman. In Shrewsbury, a video journalist for the Shropshire Star filmed an orange, hexagonal light floating in the sky. While some suggest these are Chinese lanterns, the hosts believe the sightings are becoming more frequent and deserve serious investigation.

Keywords: [ufo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ufo.md), [ghosts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ghosts.md), shropshire star, shrewsbury, chinese lanterns, paul newman, [telegraph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telegraph.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Spy Satellites Authorized for US Domestic Law Enforcement (1:22:40–1:26:54)

The Director of National Intelligence has authorized the use of military spy satellites by domestic law enforcement and civilian agencies. While officials claim the satellites cannot see faces or listen to conversations, privacy groups express concern over the lack of oversight. The hosts speculate that many "UFO" sightings are actually Predator drones or other surveillance craft being deployed over American cities.

Keywords: spy satellites, [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), [domestic surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-surveillance.md), [predator drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predator-drones.md), [biometric data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biometric-data.md), goodyear blimp

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/25.md)

### 26. CBN Reports on Islamization of Paris and Street Prayers (1:26:55–1:31:25)

The Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) aired a report featuring "hidden camera" footage of Muslim worshippers blocking streets in Paris for Friday prayers. The report claims the French government is giving Islam privileged status despite the burqa ban. The hosts note that local Parisians have responded by holding "pork and wine" festivals in the same neighborhoods to protest the disruption of foot traffic.

Keywords: [cbn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbn.md), christian broadcasting network, [paris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris.md), muslim prayer, burqa ban, hidden camera

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Chantix Side Effects and Pharmaceutical Disclaimers (1:31:26–1:35:35)

A new two-minute commercial for the smoking cessation drug Chantix highlights its effectiveness but includes a long list of severe side effects. These include suicidal thoughts, hostility, agitation, and vivid dreams. The hosts discuss the drug's controversial history and the requirement for patients to monitor their mental health closely while using the product.

Keywords: [chantix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chantix.md), [smoking cessation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smoking-cessation.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [suicidal thoughts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicidal-thoughts.md), [nausea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nausea.md), [pharmaceutical advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Onglyza Diabetes Medication and Doctor Communication (1:35:36–1:38:48)

Advertisements for the diabetes drug Onglyza urge patients to ask their doctors about the medication to control blood sugar spikes. The hosts mock the ad's suggestion that patients should inform their doctors about risks like ketoacidosis, arguing that a doctor should already be aware of such conditions. The commercial also warns of potential kidney problems and allergic reactions.

Keywords: onglyza, [type 2 diabetes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/type-2-diabetes.md), [blood sugar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blood-sugar.md), ketoacidosis, [pharmaceutical ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-ads.md), kidney problems

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/28.md)

### 29. MDMA Approved for PTSD Research in Veterans (1:38:49–1:42:12)

The FDA and DEA have authorized research into using MDMA (ecstasy) to treat post-traumatic stress disorder in military veterans. Dr. Mithoefer is leading the study, which aims to help those who have not responded to traditional therapies. The Pentagon is also exploring alternative treatments such as yoga and acupuncture at a new $72 million research facility.

Keywords: [mdma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mdma.md), [ecstasy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ecstasy.md), [ptsd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ptsd.md), [veterans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [dea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dea.md), [wired magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wired-magazine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Burning Man Festival and Undercover Drug Enforcement (1:42:14–1:45:57)

The Bureau of Land Management and local sheriffs are using undercover officers in costume to bust drug users at the Burning Man festival in the Black Rock Desert. Current TV featured a segment on the festival hosted by Michelle Lombardo. Despite the festival's reputation for radical self-expression, over 1,900 citations have been issued by the BLM since 2001.

Keywords: [burning man](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burning-man.md), [mdma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mdma.md), [bureau of land management](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bureau-of-land-management.md), undercover cops, black rock desert, [current tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/current-tv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Geraldo Rivera Celebrates 40 Years in Broadcasting (1:45:58–1:48:23)

Geraldo Rivera hosted a self-celebratory special on Fox News to mark his four decades in the news business. He reflected on his career starting in 1970, covering the Vietnam War, the Kent State shootings, and his famous report on the Willowbrook State School. The hosts find the lack of a formal roast or external tribute to be pathetic.

Keywords: [geraldo rivera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geraldo-rivera.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), civil rights movement, [al capone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-capone.md), willowbrook

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/31.md)

### 32. US Citizenship Test Questions and Slave Imagery (1:48:25–1:53:35)

The hosts review questions from the 2010 U.S. citizenship test, criticizing them for being overly simplistic or historically narrow. Questions cover topics such as the presidency of Woodrow Wilson, the purpose of the Emancipation Proclamation, and the events of September 11, 2001. Adam Curry uses "slave" imagery to mock the requirement of pledging loyalty to the flag and the government.

Keywords: [citizenship test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizenship-test.md), [uscis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uscis.md), [abraham lincoln](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abraham-lincoln.md), [world war i](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-i.md), [september 11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/september-11.md), [pledge of allegiance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pledge-of-allegiance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/32.md)

### 33. New Zealand Earthquake and Earthquake Machine Theories (1:53:35–1:57:30)

A 7.1 magnitude earthquake struck Christchurch, New Zealand, causing significant property damage but no reported deaths. The hosts compare the event to the Haiti earthquake, noting that New Zealand's superior building codes prevented a similar catastrophe. However, they also discuss the "signature" of the quake and speculate on the possible use of an earthquake machine.

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[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/33.md)

### 34. San Francisco Earthquake Predictions and Yellowstone Rumblings (1:57:30–1:59:09)

QuakePrediction.com is reporting a 92% chance of a 5.5 magnitude earthquake in the San Francisco area. Meanwhile, the Yellowstone caldera continues to show seismic activity, with the Discovery Channel reporting on the potential for a massive eruption. The hosts note that a Yellowstone super-volcano event would be a civilization-destroying disaster.

Keywords: quakeprediction.com, [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), yellowstone caldera, [volcano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volcano.md), [tectonic plates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tectonic-plates.md), [discovery channel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discovery-channel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Cultural Shift and the Perceived Obsolescence of Men (1:59:09–2:01:43)

The hosts discuss a perceived cultural trend where men are being portrayed as unnecessary in modern society. They cite the rise of sperm banks, Hollywood films about single motherhood, and an MIT study regarding the use of sex toys by female students. They suggest this is a cyclical theme in popular culture that gains traction during economic shifts.

Keywords: sperm banks, [sex toys](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sex-toys.md), mit study, popular culture, [gender roles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-roles.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/35.md)

### 36. No Agenda Tour Announcement and Sign-off (2:01:44–2:05:14)

Adam Curry announces the "Hot Pockets Across America" No Agenda Tour, an RV trip across the United States to visit producers. The tour will be documented with photos and videos, and the hosts will continue to produce the show from the road. The episode concludes with a final plea for listener support to fund the tour's expenses, including gas and equipment.

Keywords: [no agenda tour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-tour.md), rv trip, [daily source code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-source-code.md), [hot pockets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-pockets.md), gas money, [southern california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Sponsor segment: ScanWow Airport Body Scanner Satire (2:05:14–2:08:04)

A satirical advertisement for "ScanWow" mocks airport body scanning technology and the TSA. The ad claims the scanner can make "fat, ugly" bodies look attractive in digital images while inventorying citizens like grocery store items. It features absurd upgrades like the "Penis Expansion Pack" and "Tits Wow," highlighting the loss of liberty and privacy in exchange for "ego-stroked" complacency.

Keywords: scanwow, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [body scanner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanner.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/232-eating-the-evidence/chapter/37.md)

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