# Hillary For President!

> Secretary of State Hillary Clinton acknowledges the blowback of arming Afghan insurgents while federal investigators target Silicon Valley DNA startups and corrupt Pennsylvania judges.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 220
- **Published:** 2010-07-25
- **Length:** 2h 9m
- **Topics:** [Hillary Clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [23andMe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/23andme.md), Operation Flicker, [Deepwater Horizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepwater-horizon.md), [Stinger Missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stinger-missiles.md), Cash for Kids, [Ayn Rand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ayn-rand.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president

## About this episode

Hillary Clinton admits the United States armed and trained the Mujahideen with Stinger missiles during the Soviet-Afghan War, effectively creating the insurgent threat the military now faces. During a high-profile diplomatic trip to Pakistan with Greta Van Susteren, the Secretary of State acknowledged the historical blowback of Cold War policy. This admission coincides with reports on the toxic legacy of Fallujah, where depleted uranium use is linked to a surge in birth defects.

Secondary developments include a GAO investigation into 23andMe, the DNA testing firm founded by Anne Wojcicki and Sergei Brin, which federal regulators claim provides scientifically bogus health risk data. In Pennsylvania, Judge Michael Conahan pleaded guilty to racketeering in the Cash for Kids scandal, involving bribes for juvenile detention sentences. Meanwhile, the Pentagon faces a massive internal probe as several dozen officials and contractors with high-level security clearances were caught in a child pornography investigation dubbed Operation Flicker. Additional reports indicate that Deepwater Horizon technicians inhibited emergency gas alarms to avoid waking crew members, leaving the rig without audible warnings during the fatal explosion.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the San Francisco life-force phenomenon and the strange theory that the Twilight film franchise is a secret allegory for corporate office culture. The duo also performs a de-douching ritual for new donors while examining the potential side effects of the drug Chantix on Mel Gibson. This episode features the launch of the Mothership Boarding Pass for listeners seeking a spot on the translucent blue disc spotted over Malaysia.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/transcript.md.

### 1. San Francisco Energy, Weather, and Life Force (0:00–2:25)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show discussing the weather in San Francisco and Silicon Valley. They describe a phenomenon where the city of San Francisco feels as though it sucks the life energy out of visitors. The conversation touches on the chilly climate and the physical sensation of being in the Bay Area.

Keywords: [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), life energy, [weather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/1.md)

### 2. 23andMe DNA Testing, GAO Investigation, Sergei Brin (2:27–6:02)

A discussion regarding the DNA service company 23andMe follows a meal at the French bistro Fringal. The hosts highlight a Government Accountability Office (GAO) probe forwarded to the FDA and FTC claiming the company's health risk predictions are scientifically bogus. The segment notes the involvement of Google co-founder Sergei Brin and his wife, Anne Wojcicki, in the company's founding and financing.

Keywords: [23andme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/23andme.md), sergei brin, [dna testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-testing.md), [gao](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gao.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Executive Producer Credits, Value for Value, No Agenda Films (6:03–14:17)

The hosts acknowledge several high-tier donors, granting Veronica Roberts a standalone executive producer credit. They discuss the "value for value" model and the concept of "karma" associated with donations. Additionally, they announce the launch of noagendafilms.com, a listener-created site dedicated to movies exploring themes discussed on the show.

Keywords: veronica roberts, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), no agenda films, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Twilight Movie Allegory, American Business Metaphor (14:24–19:00)

Adam Curry presents a theory that the movie Twilight serves as an allegory for modern American business and office environments. He compares the high school setting to a corporate office, the vampires to business consultants, and the werewolf characters to headhunters. The theory suggests the author's background as a receptionist influenced the story's underlying structure.

Keywords: twilight, stephenie meyer, allegory, business metaphor, office space

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Atlas Shrugged Film, Miniseries History, Ken Burns (19:00–22:34)

The conversation shifts to the difficulty of adapting Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged into a film. The hosts discuss the potential for a miniseries format, reminiscing about classic long-form television like Roots and Shogun. They also critique the "Ken Burns effect" in documentaries, suggesting his style contributed to the decline of traditional miniseries.

Keywords: [atlas shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlas-shrugged.md), [ayn rand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ayn-rand.md), miniseries, [ken burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-burns.md), shogun

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Taser International X12 Shotgun, Hospital Tasing Incidents (22:35–27:11)

The hosts examine the Taser International X-Rep, a wireless electronic projectile fired from a standard 12-gauge shotgun. They express concern over the potential for lethal errors when mixing taser shells with live ammunition. The discussion includes a report on the increasing use of tasers in hospitals, specifically mentioning an incident involving the nephew of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

Keywords: [taser international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taser-international.md), x-rep, [shotgun](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shotgun.md), [clarence thomas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clarence-thomas.md), [hospitals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospitals.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Federal Shower Head Regulations, Hotel Green Initiatives (27:11–32:01)

A discussion on federal regulations limiting shower head water flow to 2.5 gallons per minute leads to a critique of government overreach. The hosts mock hotel "green" initiatives that encourage guests to reuse towels, characterizing them as cost-saving measures disguised as environmentalism.

Keywords: shower heads, [water conservation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/water-conservation.md), [regulations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regulations.md), [hotels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hotels.md), [environment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Pentagon Child Pornography Investigation, Operation Flicker (32:02–39:47)

The hosts analyze a report by Brian Bender regarding Pentagon officials and contractors with high-level security clearances caught in a child pornography investigation. They question the vague "several dozen" figure used in the reports and suggest the investigation might be a diversion or a tool for blackmail within agencies like the NSA and DARPA.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [nsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nsa.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md), operation flicker, brian bender

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Google Search Manipulation, Vatican Pedophile Link (39:49–42:03)

A report from Italy describes a "Google win" where searching for the Vatican directed users to a pedophile-related website. The hosts discuss "Google washing" and search engine optimization tricks used to manipulate top results for political or humorous purposes, noting that Google typically tries to patch these vulnerabilities.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [vatican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [search engine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-engine.md), google wash

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Cash for Kids, Judicial Corruption in Pennsylvania (42:04–44:22)

The segment covers the "Cash for Kids" scandal in Pennsylvania, where Judge Michael Conahan pleaded guilty to racketeering for taking bribes to send juveniles to private detention centers. The hosts decry the profit motives in the U.S. prison system and the excessively harsh sentences given to minors for kickbacks.

Keywords: michael conahan, cash for kids, [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md), [racketeering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racketeering.md), [prison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Al Gore Sexual Harassment Allegations, Carbon Trading (44:23–47:01)

The hosts discuss sexual harassment allegations against Al Gore involving massage therapists in Oregon and Tokyo. They use the reports to criticize Gore's public image and his involvement in carbon trading and cap-and-trade schemes, which they characterize as a scam.

Keywords: [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), national inquirer, [carbon trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-trading.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Hillary Clinton Pakistan Trip, Mujahideen History (47:01–52:07)

Hillary Clinton's diplomatic trip to Pakistan with Greta Van Susteren is analyzed. The hosts highlight a clip where Clinton admits the United States helped create the problem it is currently fighting by arming and training the Mujahideen with Stinger missiles during the Soviet-Afghan War.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [mujahideen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mujahideen.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [greta van susteren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greta-van-susteren.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Stinger Missile Efficacy, Fallujah Toxic Legacy (52:07–54:38)

The discussion turns to the technical limitations of Stinger missiles, including expiration dates and minimum firing angles. This leads to a report on the toxic legacy of the U.S. assault on Fallujah, Iraq, where the use of depleted uranium is linked to a dramatic increase in birth defects and cancer.

Keywords: [stinger missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stinger-missiles.md), [fallujah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fallujah.md), [depleted uranium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/depleted-uranium.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [weaponry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weaponry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/13.md)

### 14. White Phosphorus Use, Israel Gaza Offensive (54:38–56:33)

The hosts report on Israel's statement to the United Nations regarding the limited future use of white phosphorus. They recount the devastating physical effects of the chemical during the Gaza offensive and criticize its use as a "smoke screen" when it causes severe chemical burns.

Keywords: [white phosphorus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-phosphorus.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Noam Chomsky Critique, Iran Attack Buildup (56:33–1:03:32)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak critique Noam Chomsky's linguistic style and political history, specifically his past support for the Khmer Rouge. They play a clip of Chomsky discussing the Obama administration's buildup of "bunker buster" bombs and naval forces in the Persian Gulf in preparation for a potential attack on Iran.

Keywords: [noam chomsky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noam-chomsky.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Internet Advertising Bureau, Privacy Legislation, Donor De-douching (1:03:33–1:09:17)

The hosts criticize the Internet Advertising Bureau for testifying against privacy bills in Congress. They contrast the intrusive nature of internet advertising with their own listener-supported model, proceeding to thank various donors and perform "de-douching" rituals for those who have finally contributed to the show.

Keywords: internet advertising bureau, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [cookies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cookies.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Mel Gibson, Chantix, Global Awakening (1:09:17–1:12:47)

Adam Curry recounts a social gathering where he discussed Monsanto and Mel Gibson with media professionals. He posits that Mel Gibson's recent public outbursts might be a side effect of the smoking-cessation drug Chantix and notes a growing "awakening" among even liberal residents of Southern California regarding corporate shills.

Keywords: [mel gibson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mel-gibson.md), [chantix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chantix.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [southern california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-california.md), [variety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/variety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Mothership Boarding Pass, Aspartame Addiction, UFO Sightings (1:12:47–1:17:37)

The hosts promote the "Mothership Boarding Pass" subscription tier, priced at $33.33. They compare the cost to the high price of aspartame-laden chewing gum, which they claim is addictive. The segment also mentions a recent UFO sighting of a blue translucent disc over Malaysia as a reason to secure a spot on the "mothership."

Keywords: [mothership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mothership.md), [aspartame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspartame.md), [ufo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ufo.md), [malaysia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaysia.md), [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Andrew Wakefield, Primate Vaccine Study, Autism (1:17:37–1:22:08)

A discussion on Dr. Andrew Wakefield focuses on a new study involving vaccinated primates. The study reportedly shows that vaccinated monkeys exhibit brain maturation issues similar to Alzheimer's, which Wakefield links to autism. The hosts acknowledge the controversy surrounding Wakefield while defending their right to discuss his findings.

Keywords: [andrew wakefield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-wakefield.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md), primates, [alzheimer's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alzheimer-s.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Australian Internet Censorship, Julia Gillard, Climate Change (1:22:09–1:23:52)

The hosts report on internet censorship in Australia, noting that 90% of a government document on the subject was redacted to prevent "unnecessary debate." They also discuss Prime Minister Julia Gillard's plans to revisit climate change legislation in 2012.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [julia gillard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julia-gillard.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [freedom of information](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-of-information.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Tour de France, Philippines Earthquakes, USGS Twitter (1:23:52–1:26:18)

Brief news items include a theory about a mechanical sabotage in the Tour de France favoring a Spanish rider and a series of three magnitude 7+ earthquakes in the Philippines. The hosts highlight a USGS Twitter post stating that such a sequence of closely spaced quakes is unprecedented.

Keywords: tour de france, [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [earthquakes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquakes.md), [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), [usgs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usgs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Vivek Kundra, Recovery.gov Audit, Cloud Computing (1:26:19–1:29:04)

The hosts discuss a GAO audit of Recovery.gov that found the $18 million website used outdated data. They critique Federal CIO Vivek Kundra's "cloud" initiatives and the government's attempt to promote apps through portals like apps.gov.

Keywords: [vivek kundra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vivek-kundra.md), [recovery.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery-gov.md), [gao](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gao.md), [cloud computing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cloud-computing.md), apps.gov

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Haiti Reporting Guide, Wired Magazine Satire (1:29:05–1:32:42)

A satirical guide from Wired Magazine on how to write about Haiti is discussed. The piece deconstructs media tropes regarding the "poorest country in the Western Hemisphere" and criticizes the roles of Bill Clinton and Wyclef Jean in the country's recovery efforts.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [wired magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wired-magazine.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [wyclef jean](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wyclef-jean.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Bill O'Reilly, Shirley Sherrod, New Media Branding (1:32:43–1:37:47)

The hosts analyze Bill O'Reilly's coverage of the Shirley Sherrod story. They point out that O'Reilly misread a New York Times quote to claim he is "new media," and they examine his use of neuro-linguistic programming to avoid admitting a mistake while appearing to apologize.

Keywords: [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [shirley sherrod](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shirley-sherrod.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [new media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-media.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Niaspan Drug Commercial, 18th Century Ship Discovery (1:37:48–1:42:19)

The discovery of an 18th-century ship under the World Trade Center site is linked to Hangar 17 at JFK, where 9/11 debris was stored. This is followed by a critique of a commercial for the cholesterol drug Niaspan, which uses a "brotherly intervention" trope to push pharmaceutical use.

Keywords: niaspan, [pharmaceutical ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-ads.md), [world trade center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-center.md), hangar 17, [cholesterol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cholesterol.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/25.md)

### 26. BP Oil Spill Photoshop, Studio Reflection Theory (1:42:20–1:46:23)

The hosts discuss further evidence of BP photoshopping official images, including a helicopter cockpit photo. They also examine a CNN video of the oil leak where a door appears to open in the background, suggesting the "underwater" footage might be filmed in a studio or involve video trickery.

Keywords: [bp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bp.md), [oil spill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-spill.md), [photoshop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photoshop.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [deepwater horizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepwater-horizon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Deepwater Horizon Alarms, Inhibited Sensors Testimony (1:46:24–1:52:02)

Technician testimony from the Deepwater Horizon hearings reveals that the rig's emergency alarms for fire and gas were "inhibited." The technician explains that the system was silenced to prevent false alarms from waking the crew at night, meaning no audible warning sounded during the actual explosion.

Keywords: [deepwater horizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepwater-horizon.md), alarms, [sensors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sensors.md), [testimony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/testimony.md), [bp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bp.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Matthew Simmons, Gulf Oil Lake, Toxic Rain (1:52:02–1:58:07)

Matthew Simmons appears on Bloomberg TV to claim that the BP oil spill is a massive environmental cover-up and that a "deep oil lake" exists on the ocean floor. The segment also touches on reports of toxic rain and dying wildlife in Iowa, potentially linked to the disaster.

Keywords: [matthew simmons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matthew-simmons.md), [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [gulf of mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gulf-of-mexico.md), toxic rain, [bp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bp.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Medical Marijuana for Kids, Alcohol vs Pot (1:58:09–2:00:33)

The hosts discuss a news story about a mother giving her 12-year-old son medical marijuana to treat emotional turbulence instead of Ritalin. They also critique an LA Times story that argues alcohol is healthier than marijuana, suggesting it is a PR push by the alcohol industry.

Keywords: [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [ritalin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ritalin.md), [alcohol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alcohol.md), [la times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/la-times.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Bill Press, Progressive Radio Strategy, Pacifica (2:00:37–2:05:12)

Left-wing talker Bill Press is heard on C-SPAN discussing a strategy to buy radio stations to counter conservative dominance on the airwaves. The hosts argue that progressive radio fails not due to a lack of ownership, but because the content is inherently boring to audiences compared to high-rated conservative hosts.

Keywords: bill press, [talk radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/talk-radio.md), [progressives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/progressives.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), kgo

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Marmots and Climate Change, Mel Gibson, Outro (2:05:13–2:09:13)

The show concludes with a report from Nature magazine claiming marmots are thriving due to climate change. The hosts also mention a rumor that Mel Gibson was working on an Illuminati conspiracy film before his recent scandals. They end with a final plea for donations and the "Mothership Boarding Pass."

Keywords: marmots, [nature magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nature-magazine.md), [mel gibson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mel-gibson.md), [illuminati](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illuminati.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/220-hillary-for-president/chapter/31.md)

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