# The Reluctant Spy > A former CIA officer pulls back the curtain on the true timeline of the Iraq War while global markets face accusations of systemic manipulation. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 201 - **Published:** 2010-05-21 - **Length:** 2h 1m - **Topics:** [Iraq War](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [Goldman Sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [Elena Kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), [Monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [High-Speed Rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [Miss USA](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-usa.md), [9/11 Truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11-truth.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy ## About this episode Former CIA officer John Kiriakou reveals that the Iraq War was finalized by March 2002, a full year before the invasion, to facilitate moving US air assets out of Saudi Arabia. Kiriakou describes the alleged Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda connection as the big lie while recounting a July 2001 briefing where George Tenet warned of an imminent large-scale attack. The intelligence community remains under fire as FOIA data from American Airlines Flight 77 suggests cockpit doors never opened during the 9/11 attacks. In the financial sector, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase reported perfect trading quarters with zero loss days, a statistical anomaly calculated at 1 in 5.7 billion. Meanwhile, the California High-Speed Rail Authority appointed Roelof Van Ark, a former Siemens executive, raising conflict of interest concerns. Global health initiatives target salt consumption through the Codex Alimentarius, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funds ultrasound-based male contraception. In the media, NBC Today Show broadcasts reveal a 15-minute block dominated by pharmaceutical and coal advertisements rather than news content. Donald Trump turns the 2010 Miss USA pageant into a scripted promotional vehicle as winner Rima Fakih takes the crown. The hosts perform a de-douche ceremony for donor Dwayne Melancon and celebrate the band Weezer appearing on national television in No Agenda gear. Adam Burkpile earns a knighthood for developing the Pocket No Agenda mobile application during this roundtable session. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/transcript.md. ### 1. Southwest Airlines, PSA Legacy, California Air Travel (0:00–4:10) A discussion regarding recent travel experiences on Southwest Airlines highlights the carrier's unique culture and its roots in the original PSA model. The conversation covers humorous PA announcements during a turbulent approach into Burbank and the historical consolidation of California regional carriers like Western and US Air. The potential impact of high-speed rail on the San Francisco to Los Angeles flight corridor is also noted. Keywords: [southwest airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southwest-airlines.md), psa airlines, [burbank airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burbank-airport.md), [air travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-travel.md), [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Iowa Floods, Media Silence, Celebrity Benefit Disparity (4:11–6:55) Severe flooding in Iowa is compared to the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with reports of houses being demolished and businesses submerged. There is a critique of the lack of national media coverage and the absence of celebrity benefit concerts compared to international events like the Haiti earthquake. The political implications for Governor Chet Culver and the federal response are briefly examined. Keywords: [iowa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa.md), [floods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/floods.md), [des moines register](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/des-moines-register.md), chet culver, [natural disasters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-disasters.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Unitarian Church, Berkeley, Host Childhood Anecdotes (6:58–8:33) A personal digression explores childhood experiences within the Unitarian Church, specifically memories of Easter services featuring Cat Stevens' music. The Unitarian Church in Berkeley is characterized as a hub for eccentric speakers and unconventional viewpoints. Keywords: unitarian church, [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), [cat stevens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cat-stevens.md), [childhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/childhood.md), [religion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religion.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Producer Credits, Monsanto Seed Protest, De-douche Ceremony (8:34–13:37) The executive and associate producers for Episode 201 are acknowledged, including a significant donation from Dwayne Melancon. The segment covers news of Haitian farmers protesting and burning 475 tons of hybrid seeds donated by Monsanto. A "de-douche" ceremony is performed for a donor, and the band Weezer is recognized for their appearance on the George Lopez show wearing No Agenda gear. Keywords: [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [dwayne melancon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dwayne-melancon.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Miss USA 2010, Rima Fakih, Donald Trump Pageant Strategy (13:41–18:28) The 2010 Miss USA pageant is analyzed as a promotional vehicle for Donald Trump's organization. The victory of Rima Fakih is discussed in the context of her background and potential future media incidents designed to drive viewership for the Miss Universe pageant. Claims are made regarding the scripted nature of the competition and the strategic selection of finalists. Keywords: [miss usa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-usa.md), rima fakih, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [miss universe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-universe.md), [pageant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pageant.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Polish President Plane Crash, Cockpit Voice Recorder Investigation (18:28–19:48) New details regarding the crash of the Polish president's plane reveal that unauthorized individuals were present in the cockpit prior to the accident. The BBC's reporting on potential pressure placed on the flight crew is questioned. The lack of publicly released data from the cockpit voice recorder leads to skepticism regarding the official narrative. Keywords: [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [plane crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plane-crash.md), [cockpit voice recorder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cockpit-voice-recorder.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [smolensk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smolensk.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Aviation Safety Reports, TSA Scanners, Pilot Professionalism Claims (19:49–23:08) A series of aviation-related news items covers a plane crash in Afghanistan and scientific concerns regarding the safety of new TSA airport scanners. Reporting by Andy Pasztor in the Wall Street Journal regarding pilots forgetting to start engines is dismissed as a potential PR plant. Standard cockpit procedures and checklists are described to debunk claims of pilot negligence. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md), [airport scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-scanners.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Airline PR Campaigns, Cockpit Fires, Power Outlet Scarcity (23:09–24:46) Recent stories in USA Today regarding cockpit fires on Airbus aircraft and the lack of power outlets in coach are identified as coordinated PR efforts. These reports are framed as a strategy to diminish the reputation of the airline industry in favor of alternative transportation methods. Keywords: [usa today](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usa-today.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [hill and knowlton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hill-and-knowlton.md), [airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airlines.md), power outlets [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Ashmageddon, Icelandic Volcano, Delta Airlines Meteorology (24:46–30:18) An interview with Delta Airlines' chief meteorologist reveals that the shutdown of European airspace due to the Icelandic volcano was based on theoretical computer models rather than observational data. The 2010 ash cloud is compared to the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens, noting that the latter involved a much larger volume of ash but did not result in a total airspace closure. Keywords: [iceland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iceland.md), [volcano](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volcano.md), [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [volcanic ash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volcanic-ash.md), mount st. helens [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Airline Industry Sabotage, Political Motivation, Computer Modeling (30:17–33:32) The continued disruption of air travel is characterized as a politically motivated effort to crush the airline industry and promote European rail integration. The silence of major manufacturers like Boeing and Pratt & Whitney is noted. The reliance on "better safe than sorry" computer modeling is criticized as a tool for controlling public movement. Keywords: [richard branson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-branson.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [pratt & whitney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pratt-whitney.md), [transportation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transportation.md), [computer models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-models.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/10.md) ### 11. California High-Speed Rail, Roelof Van Ark, Siemens Conflict (33:33–36:16) The appointment of Roelof Van Ark as the executive director of the California High-Speed Rail Authority is scrutinized. Van Ark's previous leadership roles at Siemens Transportation Inc. are highlighted as a potential conflict of interest, suggesting the procurement process for the rail project may be predetermined. Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), roelof van ark, [siemens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/siemens.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/11.md) ### 12. John Kiriakou, CIA Iraq War Planning, The Big Lie (36:17–41:29) Former CIA officer John Kiriakou reveals on C-SPAN that the decision to invade Iraq was finalized by March 2002, a full year before the conflict began. The primary strategic goal was reportedly to move US air assets from Saudi Arabia to Iraq to appease Osama bin Laden's grievances. Kiriakou describes how the agency viewed the alleged connection between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda as "the big lie." Keywords: [john kiriakou](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kiriakou.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [osama bin laden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osama-bin-laden.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/12.md) ### 13. 9/11 Warnings, George Tenet, Al-Qaeda Intelligence (41:30–46:52) John Kiriakou recounts a July 2001 briefing where CIA Director George Tenet warned Arab intelligence officers of an imminent, large-scale attack. The segment discusses the "hair on fire" period leading up to September 11th and the frustration of intelligence officials like Dick Clarke whose warnings were allegedly ignored by the administration. Keywords: [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [george tenet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-tenet.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), dick clark [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Flight 77 Data, WTC 7 (46:52–48:58) Data from American Airlines Flight 77, obtained via FOIA by the organization Pilots for 9/11 Truth, is discussed. Analysis of the flight recorder parameters suggests the cockpit door never opened during the flight, contradicting the hijacker narrative. The collapse of WTC 7 is also mentioned as a persistent point of contention for skeptics. Keywords: [flight 77](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-77.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [wtc 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wtc-7.md), flight recorder [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Reglan Class Action, Tardive Dyskinesia, Pharmaceutical Side Effects (48:59–52:03) A legal advertisement for the drug Reglan (metoclopramide) highlights its link to tardive dyskinesia, a neurological disorder. The symptoms, including lip smacking, grimacing, and rapid eye movements, are discussed with a humorous reference to a mutual acquaintance. The segment critiques the prevalence of pharmaceutical litigation and the severity of drug side effects. Keywords: [reglan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reglan.md), [tardive dyskinesia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tardive-dyskinesia.md), [heartburn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heartburn.md), [class action](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/class-action.md), [side effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/15.md) ### 16. V for Vendetta, TV Advertising Intrusion, Capital One (52:04–54:32) The intrusive nature of television advertising is demonstrated through a clip of the movie "V for Vendetta" being interrupted by a Capital One commercial during a pivotal scene. This serves as a critique of how commercial interests disrupt artistic narratives and contribute to a confused media environment. Keywords: [v for vendetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/v-for-vendetta.md), [capital one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capital-one.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television.md), [media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Today Show Ad Saturation, Media Programming, Commercial Rundown (54:33–58:31) A detailed rundown of a 15-minute block of NBC's Today Show reveals a massive imbalance between actual content and advertisements. The list includes commercials for cruises, pharmaceuticals, movies, and coal, illustrating that the "show" has become a secondary vehicle for marketing. Keywords: [today show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/today-show.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), meredith vieira, [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Knighthood Ceremony, Adam Burkpile, Pocket No Agenda App (58:31–1:02:04) Adam Burkpile is officially knighted as the "Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable and Apps" for his contributions through the Pocket No Agenda mobile application. The hosts discuss the functionality of the app and acknowledge other donors, including those from Australia, Canada, and Germany. Keywords: [adam burkpile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-burkpile.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [pocket no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pocket-no-agenda.md), [app development](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/app-development.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Frontline Funding, CPB Grants, Ministry of Truth Expansion (1:02:05–1:04:20) The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) has allocated $7.5 million to Frontline to produce shorter, multi-part segments. This shift in format is interpreted as a move away from deep investigative journalism toward "fluff pieces." The role of CPB President Patricia Harrison, a former PR executive, is highlighted in the context of government-funded media. Keywords: [frontline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frontline.md), [cpb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpb.md), [public broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-broadcasting.md), patricia harrison, federal funds [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Elena Kagan, Supreme Court, Free Speech Censorship (1:04:21–1:05:53) Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan's past comments regarding the government's ability to censor pamphlets, posters, and internet content are examined. The discussion focuses on the Obama administration's perceived sensitivity to criticism and potential efforts to regulate political speech under the guise of campaign finance or public interest. Keywords: [elena kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [obama administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama-administration.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Venezuela Feedback, Hugo Chavez, Alo Presidente (1:05:53–1:08:18) A listener from Venezuela defends President Hugo Chavez, citing improvements in healthcare and education. The hosts discuss the history of US intervention in the region and the "Alo Presidente" weekly broadcast, while maintaining a critical view of Chavez's governance. Keywords: [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [hugo chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hugo-chavez.md), alo presidente, [south america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-america.md), [listener mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-mail.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Soviet Earthquake Machine, National Geographic, Alternative Energy (1:08:18–1:09:09) A report from National Geographic is cited regarding a Soviet-era rocket engine that accidentally triggered a seismic event during energy research. The segment explores the possibility that the US military acquired this "earthquake machine" technology following the Cold War. Keywords: [soviet union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soviet-union.md), [earthquake machine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earthquake-machine.md), [national geographic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-geographic.md), [military technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-technology.md), [geophysics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geophysics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Lisbon Treaty, EU Financial Crisis, UK Treasury Note (1:09:10–1:12:29) The financial instability in the Eurozone is discussed as a catalyst for increased centralized regulation from Brussels. A humorous anecdote from the UK involves new Chief Secretary to the Treasury David Laws receiving a note from his predecessor, Liam Byrne, stating simply that "the money has run out." Keywords: [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), david laws, liam byrne, [treasury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/23.md) ### 24. CNBC Segment Rigging, Apple iPad Cash Policy, Media Manipulation (1:12:29–1:16:36) A firsthand account of the pre-interview process at CNBC reveals how producers attempt to script guest responses to fit a specific narrative. The specific case involved Apple's policy of only accepting credit cards for iPad purchases to track buyers and prevent black market reselling, which the network wanted to frame solely as a privacy invasion. Keywords: [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [ipad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipad.md), [erin burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erin-burnett.md), [marketwatch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketwatch.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Salt is a Sniper, Codex Alimentarius, PR Health Campaigns (1:16:37–1:19:34) A global campaign against salt consumption, titled "Salt is a Sniper" in some regions, is identified as a coordinated public relations effort. The movement is linked to the Codex Alimentarius and the World Health Organization. Corporate participation, such as Boar's Head's "assault on salt," is noted as part of a broader regulatory trend. Keywords: [salt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salt.md), [codex alimentarius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/codex-alimentarius.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [public relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-relations.md), boar's head [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Australian Customs, Pornography Definitions, Sir Eugene Goossens (1:19:35–1:23:36) New Australian customs forms requiring travelers to declare pornography are criticized for their vague definitions. The segment references the 1956 case of conductor Sir Eugene Goossens to illustrate how broad indecency laws can be used for social control. The lack of clear legal classification for "pornography" in federal acts is highlighted. Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [customs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customs.md), [pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pornography.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), eugene goossens [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Bikini Baristas, Everett Washington, Prostitution Charges (1:23:36–1:25:53) A legal case in Everett, Washington, involving "bikini baristas" at an espresso stand is discussed. A barista faced prostitution charges for lewd behavior, which the hosts argue is an overreach of legal definitions. The segment critiques the use of "adult entertainment" licensing to shut down unconventional businesses. Keywords: everett, [washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington.md), bikini barista, [espresso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espresso.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/27.md) ### 28. California Governor Candidate, Pedophile Expulsion Plan, Santa Rosa Island (1:25:53–1:28:23) Douglas R. Hughes, a candidate for Governor of California, has proposed a controversial plan to expel convicted pedophiles from the state. The proposal includes a "choice" for offenders to move to a self-supporting community on Santa Rosa Island. The hosts mock the feasibility and optics of the candidate's platform. Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), douglas r. hughes, santa rosa island, [legislation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislation.md), [governor race](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/governor-race.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Arizona Boycott, Los Angeles Power Grid, Gary Pierce (1:28:23–1:31:07) In response to Los Angeles' boycott of Arizona over its immigration law, Arizona Corporation Commissioner Gary Pierce suggested a counter-boycott. Pierce noted that 25% of Los Angeles' electricity is generated in Arizona and offered to "renegotiate" power arrangements, effectively threatening the city with blackouts. Keywords: [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), gary pierce, [electricity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electricity.md), [immigration law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration-law.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/29.md) ### 30. AT&T Advertising, Broadway Show Tunes, Willy Wonka (1:31:11–1:33:29) An AT&T commercial utilizing a Broadway-style rendition of "Pure Imagination" from Willy Wonka is criticized as an ineffective and confusing advertising vehicle. The hosts discuss the mismatch between the nostalgic musical theme and the corporate brand identity. Keywords: [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [broadway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadway.md), willy wonka, [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Criminal Minds Tech Flaws, Eric Schmidt Quote, Anarchy Experiment (1:33:30–1:37:52) A segment of the TV show "Criminal Minds" is deconstructed for its numerous technical inaccuracies regarding fiber optics, DSL, and ISP procedures. The episode concludes with a quote from Google CEO Eric Schmidt describing the internet as a "large experiment in anarchy," which the hosts frame as ironic given Google's corporate nature. 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Keywords: [derivatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/derivatives.md), [chris dodd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-dodd.md), judd gregg, [cantor fitzgerald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cantor-fitzgerald.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/201-the-reluctant-spy/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Goldman Sachs Trading Profits, Rigged Markets, Probability Stats (1:41:53–1:43:34) Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, and Bank of America reported perfect trading quarters with zero loss days. Bloomberg analyst Jonathan Weil calculated the odds of this occurring naturally at 1 in 5.7 billion. The hosts conclude that such consistent success is evidence of a rigged financial system. 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